ferrarispider95
12-09-2005, 12:58 PM
Everyone of these fockers picked the jags and the chargers. I have no problem accepting the jags as they have a one game lead. What I don't get is why everyone so easily picked the chargers. They dont have that much of easier schedule than us, and THEY HAVE TO PLAY US AT HOME IN DEC. They also have to play the freakin Colts in Indy, and I dont think they are going to go for the 16-0 and not layoff on anyone.
Then denver at the end of the season, but we also play the bengals, both teams could be possibly resting there starters. (or we can knock denver out :) )
I just dont see this huge edge for San Diego, hell I would put my money on KC at home in Dec. even if I wasn't a fan. Also who wants to play the colts, I will take my chances with 2 nfc games on the road, rather than to play an afc match-up in the dome. (afc tiebreaker implications)
I assume this is probably better, we dont play worth a shit when everyone is pumping us up. Also the chargers got Marty, he will find away to lose atleast one on his own.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9084659
Analyze This: The wild AFC playoff picture
(Dec. 8, 2005) -- Last year Denver earned a wild-card spot, San Diego was AFC West champions, Jacksonville just missed the playoffs, and the Jets actually won their first-round game. Boy, what a difference a year makes.
Even though the race in the AFC West is far from over, let's take a look at the wild-card teams if the season were to end today. The three leading candidates are the Jaguars, Chiefs and Chargers with the Steelers a little bit behind them. But which two will make the postseason? That's something out NFL.com panel of experts had to figure out. But unlike previous weeks, the panel came to a lot of the same decisions this time around.
The Jags have an easy schedule after this week's matchup with the Colts and they are one game up on the rest of the playoff-contending teams. But San Diego and Kansas City are tied right now, and the Chargers won the first meeting, so they have the tiebreaker if the season were to end. Also, the Chiefs' schedule the rest of the way is as hard as it gets.
VIC CARUCCI
"It will be a wild and furious finish, and once the dust settles, San Diego and Jacksonville will own the final two playoff spots in the AFC. The offensive multi-tasking of running back LaDainian Tomlinson should allow the Chargers to continue their winning ways. He and quarterback Drew Brees feed off of each other, allowing the Chargers to keep opposing defenses guessing. Besides Tomlinson, Brees has a wide selection of dangerous pass-catchers, including ultra-talented tight end Antonio Gates. San Diego's linebacking corps has outstanding playmakers, led by rookie sacking machine Shawne Merriman. The Jaguars suffered a major blow when starting quarterback Byron Leftwich suffered a broken leg, but his replacement, David Garrard, is holding his own. He also is getting solid support from the rest of the offense. Greg Jones has mounted a strong case to keep the starting job he has had while taking over for injured Fred Taylor. The Jags have one of the most talented defensive fronts in the NFL, especially in the middle. Although left tackle Marcus Stroud has been bothered by lingering injuries, he is getting healthier and continues to command double-team blocking. That allows right tackle John Henderson to take advantage of one-on-one matchups."
ADAM SCHEFTER
"Jacksonville is all but in. Especially with its schedule down the stretch -- vs. San Francisco, at Houston, vs. Tennessee. So that's one spot. And San Diego is such a good team -- in the top five in the league, despite its brutal early season schedule. San Diego has a tough down-the-stretch schedule -- vs. Miami, at Indianapolis, at Kansas City, vs. Denver. But its down-the-stretch schedule pales in comparisons to Kansas City's -- at Dallas, at New York Giants, vs. San Diego, vs. Cincinnati. That's a veritable murderer's row. So on that basis, give the other spot to San Diego. Jacksonville and San Diego -- the AFC's two wild cards."
PAT KIRWAN
"Which team will get the wild-card spots? Jacksonville has lost their starting QB for the next few weeks, but the team has a very capable backup in David Garrard, a good running game behind Greg Jones and a solid defense. The Jaguars make the playoffs! The Kansas City Chiefs have a difficult schedule and a defense that can slow the run down, but struggle against the good passing teams. The Chargers are ahead of the Chiefs (the No. 7 seed) as the No. 6 seed and have a better chance of making the playoffs, but it will come down to a game against the Chiefs in Kansas City. Last year the Chargers won 34-31 in KC, but the Chiefs are a better team under Dick Vermeil this year, so the Chiefs win the game but struggle the last week of the season against Cincinnati while the Chargers play Denver at home. Denver will have clinched and may not fire on all cylinders, so San Diego gets a close win. Both teams have identical records and they split during the season, but the conference record goes to San Diego as the last wild-card team. Pittsburgh will miss because of their poor conference record."
GIL BRANDT
"I think Jacksonville has the best chance of making it simply because they do have a one-game lead and the team's four remaining games are against teams with a total of 18 wins, including the Colts at 12-0. That means the Jaguars' final three opponents have six combined wins right now. However, Houston knocked them out of the playoffs last year because of the Texans' two wins, so nothing is a gimmie in that Week 16 tilt. It comes down to San Diego and Kansas City, and both of those teams have two on the road and two at home. They both play teams that have won 32 games between them. The only difference is the Chargers' Week 14 game against Miami, the only opponent on either teams' schedules with a losing record. You have to go through all the variables that are important to success.
Kansas City San Diego
Sacks minus-3 plus-22
Turnovers plus-7 minus-2
Points allowed 257 229
QB rating Green, 87.9 Brees, 93.9
Off. ranking 2 6
Def. ranking 27 12
Red-zone off. 22 13
Red-zone def. 4 19
What we can say is that when you look at these numbers, there is no trend that favors one or the other. It's conceivable this might go down to the very last tiebreaker listed on page 37 in the NFL Record and Fact Book, which is a coin toss. My coin came down for San Diego. "
PAT KIRWAN
"Jacksonville has lost its starting QB for the next few weeks, but it has a very capable backup in David Garrard, a good running game behind Greg Jones and a solid defense. The Jaguars make the playoffs! The Kansas City Chiefs have a difficult schedule and a defense that can slow down the run, but struggle against the good passing teams. The Chargers (seeded sixth) are ahead of the Chiefs (No. 7) and have a better chance of making the playoffs, but it will come down to a game Dec. 24 against the Chiefs in Kansas City. Last year, the Chargers won 34-31 at Arrowhead but KC is a better team under Vermeil this year. So the Chiefs will win this game, but in Week 17 will struggle against the Bengals a day after the Chargers play host to the Broncos. Denver will have clinched and might not fire on all cylinders, so San Diego gets a close victory. Both teams will wind up with identical records and a split of the season series. The conference-record tiebreaker will go to San Diego, which will take the No. 6 seed. Pittsburgh will miss out because of its poor conference record."
LINCOLN KENNEDY
"I would give the nod to the two teams that have the two spots right now, the Jaguars and Chargers. The way the schedule lays out for Jacksonville, I don't see them going any worse than 12-4, which should be more than enough to earn that fifth spot in the AFC. As for the sixth spot, the choice is between the team with the tough schedule (the Chargers) and the team with the brutal schedule (the Chiefs). Kansas City will be facing teams with as much on the line as they have, and I think that will be enough to keep them out of the playoffs this year."
BOOMER ESIASON
"Of these three teams, Jacksonville will make it because their remaining schedule is the easiest. At worst, the Jaguars will be 11-5, but more like 12-4. After the game this week against the Colts, they will be favored in all of their remaining games."
Then denver at the end of the season, but we also play the bengals, both teams could be possibly resting there starters. (or we can knock denver out :) )
I just dont see this huge edge for San Diego, hell I would put my money on KC at home in Dec. even if I wasn't a fan. Also who wants to play the colts, I will take my chances with 2 nfc games on the road, rather than to play an afc match-up in the dome. (afc tiebreaker implications)
I assume this is probably better, we dont play worth a shit when everyone is pumping us up. Also the chargers got Marty, he will find away to lose atleast one on his own.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9084659
Analyze This: The wild AFC playoff picture
(Dec. 8, 2005) -- Last year Denver earned a wild-card spot, San Diego was AFC West champions, Jacksonville just missed the playoffs, and the Jets actually won their first-round game. Boy, what a difference a year makes.
Even though the race in the AFC West is far from over, let's take a look at the wild-card teams if the season were to end today. The three leading candidates are the Jaguars, Chiefs and Chargers with the Steelers a little bit behind them. But which two will make the postseason? That's something out NFL.com panel of experts had to figure out. But unlike previous weeks, the panel came to a lot of the same decisions this time around.
The Jags have an easy schedule after this week's matchup with the Colts and they are one game up on the rest of the playoff-contending teams. But San Diego and Kansas City are tied right now, and the Chargers won the first meeting, so they have the tiebreaker if the season were to end. Also, the Chiefs' schedule the rest of the way is as hard as it gets.
VIC CARUCCI
"It will be a wild and furious finish, and once the dust settles, San Diego and Jacksonville will own the final two playoff spots in the AFC. The offensive multi-tasking of running back LaDainian Tomlinson should allow the Chargers to continue their winning ways. He and quarterback Drew Brees feed off of each other, allowing the Chargers to keep opposing defenses guessing. Besides Tomlinson, Brees has a wide selection of dangerous pass-catchers, including ultra-talented tight end Antonio Gates. San Diego's linebacking corps has outstanding playmakers, led by rookie sacking machine Shawne Merriman. The Jaguars suffered a major blow when starting quarterback Byron Leftwich suffered a broken leg, but his replacement, David Garrard, is holding his own. He also is getting solid support from the rest of the offense. Greg Jones has mounted a strong case to keep the starting job he has had while taking over for injured Fred Taylor. The Jags have one of the most talented defensive fronts in the NFL, especially in the middle. Although left tackle Marcus Stroud has been bothered by lingering injuries, he is getting healthier and continues to command double-team blocking. That allows right tackle John Henderson to take advantage of one-on-one matchups."
ADAM SCHEFTER
"Jacksonville is all but in. Especially with its schedule down the stretch -- vs. San Francisco, at Houston, vs. Tennessee. So that's one spot. And San Diego is such a good team -- in the top five in the league, despite its brutal early season schedule. San Diego has a tough down-the-stretch schedule -- vs. Miami, at Indianapolis, at Kansas City, vs. Denver. But its down-the-stretch schedule pales in comparisons to Kansas City's -- at Dallas, at New York Giants, vs. San Diego, vs. Cincinnati. That's a veritable murderer's row. So on that basis, give the other spot to San Diego. Jacksonville and San Diego -- the AFC's two wild cards."
PAT KIRWAN
"Which team will get the wild-card spots? Jacksonville has lost their starting QB for the next few weeks, but the team has a very capable backup in David Garrard, a good running game behind Greg Jones and a solid defense. The Jaguars make the playoffs! The Kansas City Chiefs have a difficult schedule and a defense that can slow the run down, but struggle against the good passing teams. The Chargers are ahead of the Chiefs (the No. 7 seed) as the No. 6 seed and have a better chance of making the playoffs, but it will come down to a game against the Chiefs in Kansas City. Last year the Chargers won 34-31 in KC, but the Chiefs are a better team under Dick Vermeil this year, so the Chiefs win the game but struggle the last week of the season against Cincinnati while the Chargers play Denver at home. Denver will have clinched and may not fire on all cylinders, so San Diego gets a close win. Both teams have identical records and they split during the season, but the conference record goes to San Diego as the last wild-card team. Pittsburgh will miss because of their poor conference record."
GIL BRANDT
"I think Jacksonville has the best chance of making it simply because they do have a one-game lead and the team's four remaining games are against teams with a total of 18 wins, including the Colts at 12-0. That means the Jaguars' final three opponents have six combined wins right now. However, Houston knocked them out of the playoffs last year because of the Texans' two wins, so nothing is a gimmie in that Week 16 tilt. It comes down to San Diego and Kansas City, and both of those teams have two on the road and two at home. They both play teams that have won 32 games between them. The only difference is the Chargers' Week 14 game against Miami, the only opponent on either teams' schedules with a losing record. You have to go through all the variables that are important to success.
Kansas City San Diego
Sacks minus-3 plus-22
Turnovers plus-7 minus-2
Points allowed 257 229
QB rating Green, 87.9 Brees, 93.9
Off. ranking 2 6
Def. ranking 27 12
Red-zone off. 22 13
Red-zone def. 4 19
What we can say is that when you look at these numbers, there is no trend that favors one or the other. It's conceivable this might go down to the very last tiebreaker listed on page 37 in the NFL Record and Fact Book, which is a coin toss. My coin came down for San Diego. "
PAT KIRWAN
"Jacksonville has lost its starting QB for the next few weeks, but it has a very capable backup in David Garrard, a good running game behind Greg Jones and a solid defense. The Jaguars make the playoffs! The Kansas City Chiefs have a difficult schedule and a defense that can slow down the run, but struggle against the good passing teams. The Chargers (seeded sixth) are ahead of the Chiefs (No. 7) and have a better chance of making the playoffs, but it will come down to a game Dec. 24 against the Chiefs in Kansas City. Last year, the Chargers won 34-31 at Arrowhead but KC is a better team under Vermeil this year. So the Chiefs will win this game, but in Week 17 will struggle against the Bengals a day after the Chargers play host to the Broncos. Denver will have clinched and might not fire on all cylinders, so San Diego gets a close victory. Both teams will wind up with identical records and a split of the season series. The conference-record tiebreaker will go to San Diego, which will take the No. 6 seed. Pittsburgh will miss out because of its poor conference record."
LINCOLN KENNEDY
"I would give the nod to the two teams that have the two spots right now, the Jaguars and Chargers. The way the schedule lays out for Jacksonville, I don't see them going any worse than 12-4, which should be more than enough to earn that fifth spot in the AFC. As for the sixth spot, the choice is between the team with the tough schedule (the Chargers) and the team with the brutal schedule (the Chiefs). Kansas City will be facing teams with as much on the line as they have, and I think that will be enough to keep them out of the playoffs this year."
BOOMER ESIASON
"Of these three teams, Jacksonville will make it because their remaining schedule is the easiest. At worst, the Jaguars will be 11-5, but more like 12-4. After the game this week against the Colts, they will be favored in all of their remaining games."