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the Talking Can
01-01-2006, 08:34 AM
most of this stuff is obvious...but it is interesting to note the amount of certainty he used with these notes:

Edwards - rumors are true, if he gets out of NY for whatever reason he will be our coach (he said this definitivly (sp?))

Williams - rumors about KC and St. Louis, but he is well paid in D.C, his family likes it there, and Snyder wants him to take over whenever Gibbs retires

Tice and Martz and Capers - fired on Monday (didn't stutter)

Ferentz - mentioned his reluctance to coach in the NFL, but said his name would come up with Green Bay, St. Louis, and maybe others (sounded like he was guessing)

Saunders - didn't mention him

Cleveland GM Phil Savage - Mortenson stands by his sources that say he was going to be fired, but that public reaction to the news was so negative that the Browns are now going to keep Savage...said he's never seen anything like it..

uh, I think that's it...

DTLB58
01-01-2006, 08:39 AM
Saunders - didn't mention him

What? He dosen't have the same insider info that he is going to be HC of Detroit? :p

petegz28
01-01-2006, 08:40 AM
I heard this morning the talk about Saunders in Detroit isn't all that strong.

htismaqe
01-01-2006, 08:49 AM
I heard this morning the talk about Saunders in Detroit isn't all that strong.

Most of the talk right now is being generated from Nick Athan. It's another spreading internet rumor.

Check it out:
http://www.thelionsfanatics.com/tlfforum/index.php?showtopic=19057

What's really interesting is the number of Lions fans that are going to find another team if Saunders is hired...

old_geezer
01-01-2006, 09:00 AM
What's really interesting is the number of Lions fans that are going to find another team if Saunders is hired...

Hell; if I was a Lion's fan I'd be looking for a new team no matter who was hired.

milkman
01-01-2006, 09:00 AM
Most of the talk right now is being generated from Nick Athan. It's another spreading internet rumor.

Check it out:
http://www.thelionsfanatics.com/tlfforum/index.php?showtopic=19057

What's really interesting is the number of Lions fans that are going to find another team if Saunders is hired...

What's interesting to me from that board, is that the Jets fan there told those guys they don't want Herm Edwards.

FringeNC
01-01-2006, 09:14 AM
Why does Herm want out of NY? He doesn't seem very dedicated to the task at hand in NY.

PGM
01-01-2006, 09:16 AM
i didn't think tice would be fired, but i guess the last 2 weeks sealed his fate.

nascher
01-01-2006, 09:27 AM
Mort mentioned Saunders on ESPN a few moments ago

Most likely

Edwards
Saunders
Childress

phxchief
01-01-2006, 09:28 AM
To hell with Childress. We need a defensive-minded coach.

VonneMarie
01-01-2006, 09:29 AM
Mort mentioned Saunders on ESPN a few moments ago

Most likely

Edwards
Saunders
Childress
OOOOOOOMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG! :Lin:

the Talking Can
01-01-2006, 09:30 AM
Mort mentioned Saunders on ESPN a few moments ago

Most likely

Edwards
Saunders
Childress

give me Saunders

RedThat
01-01-2006, 09:30 AM
To hell with Childress. We need a defensive-minded coach.

Herm Edwards is the best choice imo.

siberian khatru
01-01-2006, 09:31 AM
Mort mentioned Saunders on ESPN a few moments ago

Most likely

Edwards
Saunders
Childress

Brad Childress? That makes the least sense of all.

If we want to go offense, make Saunders the HC. Otherwise, go D and pick an up-and-coming DC.

Of course, we ARE talking Carl here. He'd let his ego allow Saunders to walk so he could replace him with Childress?

the Talking Can
01-01-2006, 09:33 AM
Of course, we ARE talking Carl here. He'd let his ego allow Saunders to walk so he could replace him with Childress?

yes, he would,...

phxchief
01-01-2006, 09:34 AM
Gregg Williams for me.

Great defensive mind, and everyone deserves a 2nd chance (Bill Belichick says hi).

Like someone else said, do you risk it for greatness or play it safe for mediocrity?

I believe Edwards can do an adequate job -- a little like Vermeil -- but no better. I get the feeling that Williams, or a guy like him, could propell the team to great things.

DTLB58
01-01-2006, 09:34 AM
Mort mentioned Saunders on ESPN a few moments ago

Most likely

Edwards
Saunders
Childress

He also mentioned Butch Davis :mad:

and Ron Rivera :)

jspchief
01-01-2006, 09:43 AM
If Ferentz takes an NFL job (which I doubt), and the Chiefs didn't even take a run at him, I'll be pissed off.

nascher
01-01-2006, 10:09 AM
If Butch Davis comes here everybody wants DV back thats for sure.

FringeNC
01-01-2006, 10:10 AM
Brad Childress? That makes the least sense of all.

If we want to go offense, make Saunders the HC. Otherwise, go D and pick an up-and-coming DC.

Of course, we ARE talking Carl here. He'd let his ego allow Saunders to walk so he could replace him with Childress?

Perhaps Carl believes what a lot on here do -- that Saunders would be another Vermeil who would be soft and hold Gun's genius back.

the Talking Can
01-01-2006, 10:12 AM
He also mentioned Butch Davis :mad:

and Ron Rivera :)

seriously, he mentioned KC and Rivera?

milkman
01-01-2006, 10:13 AM
If Butch Davis comes here everybody wants DV back thats for sure.

You know, I sure as hell don't want Butch Davis, but that doesn't change the fact that I want Dick gone, nor did I want him in KC to begin with.

Butch Davis would be just the next Carl gaff in his HC selection.

I'll still be glad that Dick is gone, and looking forward to Butch's departure.

milkman
01-01-2006, 10:15 AM
Perhaps Carl believes what a lot on here do -- that Saunders would be another Vermeil who would be soft and hold Gun's genius back.

Gun and genius in the same sentence! ROFL

The only thing holding back Gun's genius is that it's a myth.
It doesn't exist.

Rausch
01-01-2006, 10:16 AM
To hell with Childress. We need a defensive-minded coach.

Exactly...

Cochise
01-01-2006, 10:24 AM
Oh lord... I don't like the way this is shaping up.

Sybil
01-01-2006, 10:26 AM
give me Saunders

Hell, maybe Saunders is sticking it to Peterson. Using the Detroit story to get Carl to beg and plead, and PAY him to stay. :hmmm:

Cochise
01-01-2006, 10:28 AM
I'm going to go ahead and call it right now. We're going to get Herm Edwards. I'm going to beat my head against the coffee table when I see it on TV. We're going to have to put up with several more horrible years of mediocrity. It's going to suck. Carl and Edwards together...

I have angered the fates somehow. This team is not going to win the super bowl in my lifetime. I'm totally screwed as a football fan. But I can't leave. I can't just not be a fan. Why must you smite me so?

Arrrhgghhhhhhh

Deberg_1990
01-01-2006, 10:34 AM
I'm going to go ahead and call it right now. We're going to get Herm Edwards. I'm going to beat my head against the coffee table when I see it on TV. We're going to have to put up with several more horrible years of mediocrity. It's going to suck. Carl and Edwards together...

I have angered the fates somehow. This team is not going to win the super bowl in my lifetime. I'm totally screwed as a football fan. But I can't leave. I can't just not be a fan. Why must you smite me so?

Arrrhgghhhhhhh

I wouldnt mind Herm Edwards. I just hope we dont have to give up any draft picks for him. Hes good, but NOT that good.

siberian khatru
01-01-2006, 10:37 AM
This team is not going to win the super bowl in my lifetime.

Be an optimist: Maybe you'll live to be 120.

RINGLEADER
01-01-2006, 10:42 AM
I vote for Saunders...if he stays we have a better chance of keeping Roaf and a halfway decent offense for another year. Also would probably mean Gunther stays.

Mecca
01-01-2006, 10:45 AM
I vote for Saunders...if he stays we have a better chance of keeping Roaf and a halfway decent offense for another year. Also would probably mean Gunther stays.

Gunther staying is a negative.........

Rausch
01-01-2006, 10:46 AM
I wouldnt mind Herm Edwards. I just hope we dont have to give up any draft picks for him. Hes good, but NOT that good.

The next person who says it's even ****ing possible to trade draft picks for a head coach gets negative rep, once a day, FOR A WEEK!

VonneMarie
01-01-2006, 10:50 AM
The next person who says it's even ****ing possible to trade draft picks for a head coach gets negative rep, once a day, FOR A WEEK!
Yeah! :cuss:

milkman
01-01-2006, 10:57 AM
The next person who says it's even ****ing possible to trade draft picks for a head coach gets negative rep, once a day, FOR A WEEK!

I'm almost certain the NFL would rescind that rule, just for us! :p

htismaqe
01-01-2006, 11:51 AM
The next person who says it's even ****ing possible to trade draft picks for a head coach gets negative rep, once a day, FOR A WEEK!

While it's not possible to TRADE for a coach using draft picks, we could still lose draft picks.

If we've been talking to Herm at all, it's TAMPERING, and Tags most certainly could penalize us by taking draft picks. The only difference is that the Jets wouldn't get them.

tyton75
01-01-2006, 12:31 PM
I vote Al Saunders for Head Coach... and let him do all the chit with the Offense

and finally give Gunther the freedom to hire his own guys and really set up the defense! don't let Al TOUCH the D!