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Zach
01-02-2006, 04:03 PM
The worst fans on the Web
Smart? Hardly. Jets faithful are brutal on 'insider' site

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jay_mohr/12/21/mohr.sports/index.html


I once asked Nomar Garciaparra if it was true that New York fans were the smartest. He replied, "I think so." When I pressed him as to why, he responded, "It's the only place I have ever played where 50,000 people yell 'BALK!' at the same time." I told him that I wasn't even sure what an actual BALK was and he said, "Maybe they don't either, but they all don't know it at the same time."

I grew up on the East Coast and have heard -- probably from East Coast media outlets -- that New York fans are the most knowledgeable in sports. I have always agreed with that assessment until I recently visited a Web site devoted to and run by New York Jets fans. The site is called jetsinsider.com, and depending on when you visit, either Chad Pennington, Curtis Martin, Justin McCareins or Doug Jolley is the second-worst Jet of all time.

I say second-worst because regardless of when you visit this site, the one unifying thread that will be posted, day or night, win or lose, is that Herman Edwards is the single worst football coach to ever wear a whistle. Post after post slams Herm and his coaching decisions, disregarding that he has taken the Jets to the playoffs in three of his five years. Posters whine and whine and whine about the "five year plan" and complain, "Where is the Super Bowl?"

I recently exchanged e-mails with Mark Cannizzaro, the Jets beat writer for the New York Post who also writes for jetsinsider.com. I asked him if it was my imagination or were these "fans" disproportionately harsh on Edwards? Cannizzaro quickly responded to my e-mail and assured me that it was not my imagination. Jets fans are the worst on the Web, excluding Raiders fans, of course, who are using their data ports to light up their Darth Vader skull bongs.

One poster on jetsinsider.com said he could name 20 head coaches in the NFL who were better than Edwards. He did list the coaches, but he didn't realize that Herm has beaten most of them. You would think that Edwards hurt Pennington's arm and kicked Martin in the knee shortly before kickoff each week.

Jetsinsider.com posters mock the fact that Edwards is a great motivator and routinely post that from Monday to Saturday he is a great coach, but never on Sundays. One poster asked incredulously, "How many head coaches in the NFL need a guy to watch the game clock for him?" Under an alias I replied, "Uh...ALL OF THEM! They are called assistant head coaches!"

Jets fans are sick and tired of hearing about injuries and think that unless you can get Reggie Bush out of it, you should be able to win 10 games with the jayvee squad out there. Seriously, how well would the Patriots do if they lost Tom Brady? In the three games in which Corey Dillon didn't play this season, the Pats lost twice.

What if the Colts, after starting the season without Peyton Manning (shudder), suddenly lost center Jeff Saturday and two two weeks later Edgerrin James. Three wins? Maybe, maybe not.

What Jets fans should realize is that this may be the most injured team ever in the most critical areas.

That doesn't matter to the legions of jetsinsider.com. You must win if you are the Jets, and you must not be conservative, and you must either win every game or lose every game so you can draft Bush. One poster seriously wrote that Al Davis purposely did not start Kerry Collins against the Jets to sabotage New York's chances at the number one pick. Not only is conspiracy garbage like this posted, but hundreds also RESPONDED to it.

The number one subject on jetsinsider.com is that Edwards is hurting this franchise and his time is up. "What has he ever done except regress as head coach of the New York Jets?" they ask. Well, for starters he has two playoff wins since 2002. That may seem ho hum, but not when you compare it to the rest of the NFL.

Since 2002, the Texans, Lions, Cardinals, Redskins, Saints, Browns, Bears, Broncos, Giants, Bills, Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys, Chiefs, Jaguars, Seahawaks, Bengals and Ravens have won ZERO playoff games. I am sticking with Herm.

KcMizzou
01-02-2006, 04:07 PM
Jets fans are the worst on the Web, excluding Raiders fans, of course, who are using their data ports to light up their Darth Vader skull bongs.


ROFL

|Zach|
01-02-2006, 04:09 PM
heh, an article about message board culture. I dig it.

Matt39
01-02-2006, 04:10 PM
Yeah, because Jay Mohr is a credible source.

Jet fans want a Super Bowl. Herm's had 5 years. We're no closer than we were 5 seasons ago. Time to move on.

Mark Canizzaro is an idiot. He's actually lobbied for Herm to receive an extension after going 4-12.

Do you guys remember opening day this year? The Jets really looked prepared then, before they got hit with injuries.

Baby Lee
01-02-2006, 04:16 PM
Do you guys remember opening day this year?
No. Who did they play? :rolleyes:

chiefsfaninNC
01-02-2006, 04:32 PM
Sounds like typical fans to me.

Rain Man
01-02-2006, 04:37 PM
Do you guys remember opening day this year? The Jets really looked prepared then, before they got hit with injuries.


Didn't our first drive go 80+ yards for a TD on four plays, all of which were runs?

KcMizzou
01-02-2006, 04:38 PM
Didn't our first drive go 80+ yards for a TD on four plays, all of which were runs?Yep. Priest and LJ had back to back 35 yd runs.

WilliamTheIrish
01-02-2006, 04:46 PM
I remember opening day.

In addition I remember the week leading up to Opening day, when the green clad fans were certain they were going to roll over the Chiefs at Arrowhead.
I agree with the author of the article that Jets fans are idiots.
I agree with Jets fans that Herm ain't the answer for them.

Or us.

Matt39
01-02-2006, 04:51 PM
For the most part, Jets fans are not idiots. Just extremely passionate. Which some might find strange due to them playing second fiddle in NY.


Check out Jetnation.com, you'll see that a majority of Jets fans know what they're talking about.

Cochise
01-02-2006, 04:52 PM
I can't remember ever being impressed by the Jets during Edwards' tenure. Either the team looks marginal and maybe claws into a low playoff seed, or - like this season - they're horrible.

AND - I have read on another Jets board (gang green or something) about the same disturbing thing that we complain about with Vermeil, disproportionate loyalty to crappy players who clearly are not the answer.

Rain Man
01-02-2006, 04:59 PM
Check out Jetnation.com, you'll see that a majority of Jets fans know what they're talking about.

Then why aren't they Chiefs fans? Huh? HUH? WHY AREN'T THEY CHIEFS FANS?

Matt39
01-02-2006, 05:01 PM
I can't remember ever being impressed by the Jets during Edwards' tenure. Either the team looks marginal and maybe claws into a low playoff seed, or - like this season - they're horrible.



We've tread water for 5 seasons. Now the ship has sunk.

Edwards/Bradway inherited a Bill Parcells team and couldn't get over the hump. The window closed for Edwards and the Jets last January in Pittsburgh, losing a game the same way Schottenheimer did the previous week against us. I mean, Herm actually decided to down the ball before letting Brien go out and kick the FG in Heinz Field(a place that has given kickers nightmares). HELLO HERM, YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME I THOUGHT?

The play not to lose mentality of Edwards/Marty will never result in a title. And for Jets fans, 37 years is a long freakin time.

Matt39
01-02-2006, 05:02 PM
Then why aren't they Chiefs fans? Huh? HUH? WHY AREN'T THEY CHIEFS FANS?

:)

Cochise
01-02-2006, 05:04 PM
The play not to lose mentality of Edwards/Marty will never result in a title. And for Jets fans, 37 years is a long freakin time.

Unfortunately, Chiefs fans are quite familiar with it. :shake: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

mikey23545
01-02-2006, 05:57 PM
Hey, it's only 36 for us....