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RedThat
01-02-2006, 05:20 PM
After reading Teichers article this morning, and listening to Carl and Lamar discussing about what they are looking for when hiring a new coach, here is what we know:

-The Chiefs are looking for a guy with experience. They're going to talk to some coaches(assistant coaches) in the playoffs.

-They're also open-minded to guys with no experience

-Looking for a coach who can be a long term solution. somebody who can make a name for himself. Someone who can build a foundation!

:hmmm: foundation? I can't see us getting an offensive mind since we have built an offense. Wouldnt make sense to hire an offensive minded coach again....Interesting? makes me think they're looking for a defensive mind!

So now, given our current options of head coaching candidates, lets look at the current crop thats available, and see who fits the profile of what the Chiefs are looking for in a coach:

-Herm Edwards ??? don't see him leaving NY, if he did, possiblity
-Butch Davis-Sounds like he fits the bill!
-Dom Capers-possibly
-Gary Kubiak-don't see it
-Al Saunders-nope, don't see it
-Tim Lewis-he'll get interviewed because of NFL rules, policies
-Brad Childress-don't see it
-Ron Rivera-no experience
-Steve Mariucci-nope
-Mike Tice-nope
-Mike Sherman-nope
-Mike Martz-nope
-Mike Trgovac-He'd be my choice, should get some consideration
-Jim Haslett- no thank you
-Bob Stoops-risky
-Kirk Ferentz-ahh maybe, should get some consideration
-Greg Williams---sounds like he fits the bill as well! :banghead:

*Williams or Davis? Oh God :shake:

Matt39
01-02-2006, 05:24 PM
More fuel to the fire

By ANDREA ADELSON, AP Sports Writer
January 2, 2006

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. (AP) -- Though Herman Edwards maintains he will return as Jets coach, the team should expect a phone call from the Kansas City Chiefs in the coming days.

A person familiar with the situation, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Monday the Chiefs plan to contact the organization for permission to speak with Edwards about taking over for Dick Vermeil. Edwards and the Chiefs have been linked for the last six weeks, when it became apparent Vermeil was considering retirement.

Now that Vermeil made that decision final, it clears the way for his former player to get a shot at the job. It is unclear whether the Jets would grant permission to the Chiefs to talk to Edwards. Chiefs spokesman Pete Moris told the AP on Monday he could neither confirm nor deny that the team had asked permission from the Jets to speak with Edwards.

Teams can request permission to speak to coaches under contract once the season is over. Chiefs president and general manager Carl Peterson said after the finale Sunday he would be willing to talk to Edwards if the Jets called and gave him permission. Peterson said he had a list of people he wanted to contact, but revealed only one name: offensive coordinator Al Saunders.

Edwards reiterated once again Monday he isn't going anywhere, and hasn't been contacted by any teams with a job opening.

"I'm happy to be the coach here and I'm going to be the coach here, like I said before, and that's as far as I want to comment on it," Edwards said.

But the source said Edwards might receive interest from other teams, including the Raiders, who are expected to fire Norv Turner.

Edwards appears to be caught in a no-win situation. Though team owner Woody Johnson said in November he wants Edwards to return, he hasn't spoken publicly since, allowing the speculation to fester. Edwards is believed to want out, but he may consider himself in a difficult spot and must decide if he wants a contract extension to remain with a team expected to go through a rebuilding process.

Johnson has made it clear he doesn't want to spend money on high-priced players, the source said, making it even more difficult to rebuild. Another point of contention is Edwards' salary. He makes about $2 million a year, among the bottom third of NFL coaches, and it is believed Edwards wants a raise as a reward for the progress he made in five years.

If Edwards stays and doesn't get the extension he wants, one option is to coach one more year, resign and wait a year before he gets back into the fray.

Edwards didn't address his situation with the players in their final team meeting Monday, but they expect him to return.

"He didn't say I'm going to be here, but he never said I'm not going to be here," center Kevin Mawae said. "It was his normal approach: `He's the coach, this is what we expect out of you guys.' There's no reason to believe that he wouldn't be."

Edwards has ties to the Chiefs and Peterson, who tried to recruit Edwards to go to UCLA, then signed him as an undrafted free agent with Philadelphia, and gave him his first NFL job as an executive in the Chiefs' player personnel department in 1990.

When the Jets played Kansas City to open the 2005 season, Edwards and his wife had dinner with Peterson and his wife -- something Peterson said was rare for him to do during the year. But there is one major stumbling block ahead should the Jets allow Edwards to talk to another team: The Chiefs would have to give up draft picks because Edwards has two years remaining on his contract.

Kansas City had to give up a second- and third-round pick when it hired Vermeil, who was technically under contract with St. Louis even though he was retired. Peterson was upset about that, and the price will be higher this time around because Edwards currently is coaching.

AP Sports Writer Doug Tucker in Kansas City, Mo., contributed to this report.

jAZ
01-02-2006, 05:32 PM
Teams can request permission to speak to coaches under contract once the season is over.
Get on the phone to Tennessee now.

Tribal Warfare
01-02-2006, 05:37 PM
Get on the phone to Tennessee now.

Fisher or Trgovac sound good to me.

jjchieffan
01-02-2006, 05:46 PM
Why the nope on Sherman? 59-43 over 6 seasons is impressive. nearly 10 wins a season, and always in the playoffs

RedThat
01-02-2006, 05:54 PM
Why the nope on Sherman? 59-43 over 6 seasons is impressive. nearly 10 wins a season, and always in the playoffs

I don't disagree. He is a pretty good coach. Im going by my gut feeling that, when Lamar mentioned foundation, Im thinking he will get a coach in here that has a defensive mind. After all, our defense still needs work, and Mike Sherman was an offensive co-ordinator before. Im thinking he could be more offensive minded? Our offensive is there, we need defense, thats why I said "nope" to Sherman.

Kerberos
01-02-2006, 08:11 PM
But there is one major stumbling block ahead should the Jets allow Edwards to talk to another team: The Chiefs would have to give up draft picks because Edwards has two years remaining on his contract.


Now wait a cotton picking minute.

I was under the impression that they can no longer get draft picks for coaches under a new league policy?

PLEASE correct me if I am wrong?

I can just see it now that we will give up HUGE draft picks if that is still a viable option. :banghead:

DAMMIT CARL :cuss:



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Valiant
01-02-2006, 08:16 PM
Kubiak would be interesting... Hopefully keeps building a team around there strengths and then brings over knowledge to our defense on how to play denver better...

milkman
01-02-2006, 08:21 PM
Get on the phone to Tennessee now.

Since Fisher is a vice-president, the Chiefs couldn't hire him anyway, unless Carls wants to make him a team president.

milkman
01-02-2006, 08:21 PM
Now wait a cotton picking minute.

I was under the impression that they can no longer get draft picks for coaches under a new league policy?

PLEASE correct me if I am wrong?

I can just see it now that we will give up HUGE draft picks if that is still a viable option. :banghead:

DAMMIT CARL :cuss:



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http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=132730

Kerberos
01-02-2006, 09:12 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=132730


:sulk:



:cuss: Dammit Carl


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Halfcan
01-02-2006, 10:12 PM
I like what Herm brings to the table D wise, but 1st and third draft pick or even 2nd and third, is something the Chiefs just can't afford to do. We have too many holes to patch and we are over the cap allready. Fisher would be a descent pic-keep Gun, New offensive cordinator.


How about Gun as the head coach again-I wouldn't put it past Carl.

Rausch
01-02-2006, 10:21 PM
My preference is Capers but I'm not sure how high he is on Carl's short list.

I think Carl would prefer Herm...

Guru
01-02-2006, 11:22 PM
Get on the phone to Tennessee now.

Yes!!! Please!!!

kcfanXIII
01-03-2006, 12:10 AM
i don't think any coach less than bill biilichick <sp?> is worth a draft pick. end of story. kc needs those draft picks to continue bringing in youth to fill holes left by retirees.

Rausch
01-03-2006, 12:12 AM
Yes!!! Please!!!

You do understand that Jeff has less to brag on than DV, right?...

Rausch
01-03-2006, 12:18 AM
i don't think any coach less than bill biilichick <sp?> is worth a draft pick.

DIE!!!!!

luv
01-03-2006, 12:21 AM
Yes!!! Please!!!
I like the idea of Jeff Fisher, too. Who do we get or promote for OC?

luv
01-03-2006, 12:22 AM
DIE!!!!!
ROFL I like it!

milkman
01-03-2006, 12:27 AM
I like the idea of Jeff Fisher, too. Who do we get or promote for OC?

I'm not high on the idea of Fisher.

I think he's the wrong fit for KC at this point in time.

Assuming, however, that he somehow landed in KC, promote Mike Solari or Jason Verduszo to OC.