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Halfcan
01-04-2006, 11:20 PM
Wow what a talent!

B2chiefsfan
01-04-2006, 11:21 PM
Where do you think he'll land up in the draft???

KCFalcon59
01-04-2006, 11:25 PM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Halfcan
01-04-2006, 11:27 PM
#1

Pitt Gorilla
01-04-2006, 11:29 PM
Nope, some asshat on here told me that Young couldn't throw.

B2chiefsfan
01-04-2006, 11:29 PM
#1


Overall???

recxjake
01-04-2006, 11:30 PM
he goes to Texas, Texas gets rid of Carr.... Herm Edwards signs Carr

CanadaKC
01-04-2006, 11:31 PM
he hinted he wouldn't declare cause the top 5 teams this draft wouldn't be looking for a QB after Leinart...which means big money loss. I think that might have changed today.

Halfcan
01-04-2006, 11:31 PM
Why not? Jeez the guy is unstopable, he has a rocket arm plus speed to burn-this guy is going to be a stud in the NFL.

Lbedrock1
01-04-2006, 11:32 PM
wish the chiefs would get him. He is what they thought Mike Vick would be. Able to pass from the pocket and run.

Count Alex's Losses
01-04-2006, 11:32 PM
He's not a pro QB.

Lbedrock1
01-04-2006, 11:34 PM
He's not a pro QB.
In the words of Yoda or close to them He will be he will be.

Deberg_1990
01-04-2006, 11:35 PM
Hell of an athlete. I think hes an underrated passwer as well. Hes come a long way in 3 years.

tk13
01-04-2006, 11:36 PM
You Big XII homers are great... ROFL

B2chiefsfan
01-04-2006, 11:37 PM
He'll stay at Texas one more.........at least that's what he just hinted.

B2chiefsfan
01-04-2006, 11:38 PM
You Big XII homers are great... ROFLYes we are........:)

Count Alex's Losses
01-04-2006, 11:38 PM
Actually I may have to recant. He's gotten better every year and completed 64 percent of his passes this year. 26 TDs, 10 INT. Led the nation in QB rating.

What am I missing?

BigRedChief
01-04-2006, 11:41 PM
the guy will make it as a NFL QB. He's big, strong, runs like the wind. Highest pass efficiency rating in college ball this year. Yep, sounds like a failure to me :rolleyes:

Halfcan
01-04-2006, 11:42 PM
Actually I may have to recant. He's gotten better every year and completed 64 percent of his passes this year. 26 TDs, 10 INT. Led the nation in QB rating.

What am I missing?
I was going to say-did you see any games this year. He is a monster talent-better than Vick-after this game-teams will be licking their chops to get this guy. No way he falls back to the Chiefs. Number one is my guess.

Halfcan
01-04-2006, 11:43 PM
the guy will make it as a NFL QB. He's big, strong, runs like the wind. Highest pass efficiency rating in college ball this year. Yep, sounds like a failure to me :rolleyes:


USC's defense tried everything to stop him-and got an azzwippin.

Ari Chi3fs
01-04-2006, 11:44 PM
Dude was personally responsible for 200 yards rushing...3 TDs on the Ground. 260+ yards passing with like 28/39 completion

Unreal.

I have never seen a single game performance as impressive as Vince Youngs tonight.

Best performance in College Football History?

Shit. If I was him, I would gauge the Houston Texans interest... I think if they drafted Vince Young, fans would go crazy there.

Why sign Reggie Bush 1st overall, when you can have a homestate hero?

Lbedrock1
01-04-2006, 11:46 PM
I was going to say-did you see any games this year. He is a monster talent-better than Vick-after this game-teams will be licking their chops to get this guy. No way he falls back to the Chiefs. Number one is my guess.
maybe we were the only ones watching the game and the chiefs get lucky.........Don't mess with my wishful thinking.

Lbedrock1
01-04-2006, 11:48 PM
Dude was personally responsible for 200 yards rushing...3 TDs on the Ground. 260+ yards passing with like 28/39 completion

Unreal.

I have never seen a single game performance as impressive as Vince Youngs tonight.

Best performance in College Football History?

Shit. If I was him, I would gauge the Houston Texans interest... I think if they drafted Vince Young, fans would go crazy there.

Why sign Reggie Bush 1st overall, when you can have a homestate hero?
yea what he said.

KCwolf
01-04-2006, 11:48 PM
The performance tonight was unreal....TK13 is a JOKE. Period.
And match Vince's night w/last year vs. Michigan and it may be the best Bowl performances ALL-TIME. Very Very Impressive.

Mecca
01-04-2006, 11:50 PM
Call Tk all the names you won't fact is he's right. This this is a bunch of big 12 homers jerking off about a QB who trusts his legs more than his arm.

The guy isn't a #1 the guy isn't a top 10 hell the guy probably isn't first round as a QB. I think he could be a good NFL WR however.

I'm sure if Marcus Vick was in the big 12 we'd get a thread circle jerking about how he's a #1 too.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-04-2006, 11:52 PM
Vince Young will be an NFL STUD! Nuff Said.

Halfcan
01-04-2006, 11:52 PM
The performance tonight was unreal....TK13 is a JOKE. Period.
And match Vince's night w/last year vs. Michigan and it may be the best Bowl performances ALL-TIME. Very Very Impressive.

He took on tackles head on for those extra yards-better not try that in the Pros. But he was a stud.

B2chiefsfan
01-04-2006, 11:53 PM
Dude was personally responsible for 200 yards rushing...3 TDs on the Ground. 260+ yards passing with like 28/39 completion

Unreal.

I have never seen a single game performance as impressive as Vince Youngs tonight.

Best performance in College Football History?

Shit. If I was him, I would gauge the Houston Texans interest... I think if they drafted Vince Young, fans would go crazy there.

Why sign Reggie Bush 1st overall, when you can have a homestate hero?
See Jake Plummer...........:)

beer bacon
01-04-2006, 11:54 PM
Call Tk all the names you won't fact is he's right. This this is a bunch of big 12 homers jerking off about a QB who trusts his legs more than his arm.

The guy isn't a #1 the guy isn't a top 10 hell the guy probably isn't first round as a QB. I think he could be a good NFL WR however.

I'm sure if Marcus Vick was in the big 12 we'd get a thread circle jerking about how he's a #1 too.

27 passing TDs/10 interceptions: highest passer rating in college

I don't know about what draft slot he would go, but if he wants to become a better passer he should stay at Texas one more year. He has become a better passer every year. He would be even better after another year in college. His growth might be stunted when he gets to the pros.

By the way, Vince was 30/40 tonight for 267 yards.

obesecomic
01-04-2006, 11:55 PM
Vince will stay for one more year for only one reason. People dont respect him as a passer, and he needs to work on that. If he gets rid of that pussy throwing motion, he could be good. Who knows, he could get compared to Randall Cunningham instead of Vick if he learns to throw.

CanadaKC
01-04-2006, 11:55 PM
We have our Vince Young...his name is Casey Printers... :BS:

Mecca
01-04-2006, 11:56 PM
If he had went to a college where they actually coach their kids. His mechanics would be better by now, you can ask John Gruden on that.

JohnnyV13
01-04-2006, 11:56 PM
Vince Young would be foolish to leave for the NFL. I (gasp) agree with GoChiefs. He's not an NFL passer. His arm is ok, but many of his passes float, he doesn't read defenses very fast, and his response to pressure is to run.

He's NOT an NFL-ready prospect. He has tools, but I think he's best served honing his game one more year.

Ari Chi3fs
01-04-2006, 11:56 PM
I could have cared less who won this game... If Vince Young had been on the Louisville Cardinals and put up those numbers... I would still say, that was teh best personal statistical performance EVER in sports.

Name one thing more impressive than Vince Young's performance tonight. One?

RJ
01-04-2006, 11:58 PM
Great athlete but no way those runs out of the pocket would work in an NFL game. Pro linebackers and safetys would knock him on his ass, as he should have been several times tonight.

Maybe not Chief linebackers and safetys, but other team's.

Count Alex's Losses
01-04-2006, 11:58 PM
Name one thing more impressive than Vince Young's performance tonight. One?

The USC cheerleaders.

beer bacon
01-04-2006, 11:58 PM
If he had went to a college where they actually coach their kids. His mechanics would be better by now, you can ask John Gruden on that.

Bitter much?

kcfanintitanhell
01-04-2006, 11:58 PM
No doubt about it, I was absolutely friggin blown away by his performance tonight, but there is still a nagging doubt as to whether what he has been able to do on that stage can transcend to the big stage: maybe it can, but in the bigs, IMHO, he has to stay a bit more patient in the pocket, or NFL linebackers will hurt him.
But then again, if he's got a good head, and willing to learn, he may become the bastard child of Peyton Manning and Michael Vick.
Hope he does.

B2chiefsfan
01-04-2006, 11:58 PM
The USC cheerleaders.


Didn't take long.........ROFL

KILLER_CLOWN
01-04-2006, 11:59 PM
Just think Mildcat fans, Vince was as much as a done deal for coach Snyder....the one that got away?

Rausch
01-05-2006, 12:00 AM
Pittsburgh, welcome your newest WR, VINCE YOUNG!

obesecomic
01-05-2006, 12:02 AM
Nah, if anybody switched postions from this game, it would be Reggie Bush. You couldnt telegraph any louder about which play was coming when Reggie was in the game. He'll make a great WR/KR in the pros

Halfcan
01-05-2006, 12:02 AM
Vince will stay for one more year for only one reason. People dont respect him as a passer, and he needs to work on that. If he gets rid of that pussy throwing motion, he could be good. Who knows, he could get compared to Randall Cunningham instead of Vick if he learns to throw.

Great first post-plus you chose a Halfcan thread to pop your cherry-Great start Rookie!!!

Mojo Rising
01-05-2006, 12:05 AM
VY is much bigger than Vick and that is why he will be a force at QB in the NFL. SC blitzed him with Ting & Ting (B Sapp) and he shook them off his leg like a Poodle on his leg. He also broke many other tackles to stay alive in the pocket.

Running QB's who turn into WR's in the NFL are usually smaller and rely on their quickness to succeed on the college level. VY has the ability (McNair - McNabb) to take on a LB and still get a throw off.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:08 AM
Bitter much?

No, that's a fact. I'd have said it 3 months ago if someone said something about Young in the NFL. John Gruden has Chris Simms on his roster, he made the comment that Chris had, had the least amount of coaching he'd ever seen any QB have. What's that tell you about old Mack Brown?

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:08 AM
VY is much bigger than Vick and that is why he will be a force at QB in the NFL. SC blitzed him with Ting & Ting (B Sapp) and he shook them off his leg like a Poodle on his leg. He also broke many other tackles to stay alive in the pocket.

Running QB's who turn into WR's in the NFL are usually smaller and rely on their quickness to succeed on the college level. VY has the ability (McNair - McNabb) to take on a LB and still get a throw off.

Because Matt Jones is small and didn't break tackles.......

beer bacon
01-05-2006, 12:10 AM
No, that's a fact. I'd have said it 3 months ago if someone said something about Young in the NFL. John Gruden has Chris Simms on his roster, he made the comment that Chris had, had the least amount of coaching he'd ever seen any QB have. What's that tell you about old Mack Brown?

At least Mack seems to have actually taught his QB some sportsmanship.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:14 AM
I'm sure Leinart is classless for his 1 comment seconds after he just lost the last game of his college career. Let's having a feeling for the context of when it was said.

Halfcan
01-05-2006, 12:14 AM
At least Mack seems to have actually taught his QB some sportsmanship.
Yep, that was a real puzzy thing for Matt to say. Vince was just too much. 4th and 5, game on the line, and he takes it in. Matt did not look so great. Maybe he will stick around another year of ballet to try and get this loss out of his mouth.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:15 AM
Yep, that was a real puzzy thing for Matt to say. Vince was just too much. 4th and 5, game on the line, and he takes it in. Matt did not look so great. Maybe he will stick around another year of ballet to try and get this loss out of his mouth.

Apparently you didn't watch the 2nd half of the game, Leinart was torching the top 10 Texas D........

Rausch
01-05-2006, 12:16 AM
Nah, if anybody switched postions from this game, it would be Reggie Bush. You couldnt telegraph any louder about which play was coming when Reggie was in the game. He'll make a great WR/KR in the pros

You've got to be kidding me.

THis abortion of a game aside, he'll still be a 1st round pick and an immediate starter at HB in the NFL.

Young....no.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:18 AM
It's kind of funny how 1 game is shaping a ton of opinions on here........I also think Halfcan hates everyone but he likes Rush. That's an assbackwards way to go through life.

Mojo Rising
01-05-2006, 12:19 AM
Vince Young would be foolish to leave for the NFL. I (gasp) agree with GoChiefs. He's not an NFL passer. His arm is ok, but many of his passes float, he doesn't read defenses very fast, and his response to pressure is to run.

He's NOT an NFL-ready prospect. He has tools, but I think he's best served honing his game one more year.

Can't read Defenses? I thought Dan Fouts commented on how his height gives him an advantage on reading Defenses.... this is when he was 12 - 14 (in the first half). He finished the game 30/40. His year QB rating was 111.

obesecomic
01-05-2006, 12:19 AM
Reggie can't run between the tackles in college, what makes you think he will magically be able to do it in the pros. He has good hands, and can run outside good, sounds like a WR to me.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:20 AM
Can't read Defenses? I thought Dan Fouts commented on how his height gives him an advantage on reading Defenses.... this is when he was 12 - 14 (in the first half). He finished the game 30/40. His year QB rating was 111.

Explain to me how being tall has anything to do with reading a defense. I guess if taller people are smarter you'd have something there......

Count Alex's Losses
01-05-2006, 12:22 AM
Explain to me how being tall has anything to do with reading a defense. I guess if taller people are smarter you'd have something there......

The line of thought is that you can see over the big tall offensive linemen and defenders.

For the same reason, college QBs who have sidearm deliveries are frowned upon.

Rudy lost the toss
01-05-2006, 12:22 AM
If Vince Young can stop making stupid decisions like throwing up the ball for grabs, not tucking the ball away, throwing the ball carelessly to avoid being sacked.......... he just might be the next Michael Vick with less agility..........yup not so special. Note to Vince: NFL teams not named the chiefs usually wrap up and hit hard. good luck

Mojo Rising
01-05-2006, 12:24 AM
Apparently you didn't watch the 2nd half of the game, Leinart was torching the top 10 Texas D........

The 2nd half was great. Unfortunately, tonight he thought he was going to a Dodger game...showing up late and all.

WilliamTheIrish
01-05-2006, 12:25 AM
Just think Mildcat fans, Vince was as much as a done deal for coach Snyder....the one that got away?

Go back to Jhoaxslant and TomLight.com and tell the idiot who told you this that "the one that got away" never even came on the KSU campus.

Done deal. That's funny.

WilliamTheIrish
01-05-2006, 12:26 AM
It's kind of funny how 1 game is shaping a ton of opinions on here........I also think Halfcan hates everyone but he likes Rush. That's an assbackwards way to go through life.

I agree.

Maybe you should watch some more of Young's games.

Mojo Rising
01-05-2006, 12:30 AM
Explain to me how being tall has anything to do with reading a defense. I guess if taller people are smarter you'd have something there......

The advantage has to do with seeing over O and D Lineman. This allows the QB in the pocket to not have to look between the gaps.

You can not seriuously be asking how height is an advantage at the QB position can you? It is not only the ability to throw between (or over) the defenderes, but to also see the WR's and DB's that are in the play downfield.

SBK
01-05-2006, 12:33 AM
You've got to be kidding me.

THis abortion of a game aside, he'll still be a 1st round pick and an immediate starter at HB in the NFL.

Young....no.

Bush won't be Touchdown Jesus in the NFL. He'll be good though. I'd take Larry Johnson over him every friggin day of the week.

Halfcan
01-05-2006, 12:33 AM
It's kind of funny how 1 game is shaping a ton of opinions on here........I also think Halfcan hates everyone but he likes Rush. That's an assbackwards way to go through life.


Why do you hate Rush so much? Is it the killer lyrics, the expert playing ability, is it the huge connection they have with their fans all over the world-maybe that they have sold nearly 40 million records and have played 1500 sold out shows, including 5 straight nights at Madison Square Garden. Maybe it's the fact they are all about the music. Critics, radio, MTV, fashion trends, mean shit to them. They worked up from dive clubs, to be the best rock band in the world. Maybe its because they came back after Neil Peart lost his daughter and wife-and the band was all but dead-but somehow managed to overcome tragedy, to release an incredible CD in Vapor Trails, a multi platinum DVD-Rush in Rio, sold out concerts all over the world, and then celebrated 30 years of friendship with R30. They have a connection with their fans like no other-they have inspired countless bands, writers, and won the highest award given in Canada. Yeah your right they suck.

Funny you should talk about hate-I am not the one with F TEXAS in every thread.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:33 AM
The advantage has to do with seeing over O and D Lineman. This allows the QB in the pocket to not have to look between the gaps.

You can not seriuously be asking how height is an advantage at the QB position can you? It is not only the ability to throw between (or over) the defenderes, but to also see the WR's and DB's that are in the play downfield.

Ok, I thought you were trying to say being tall made him better at reading defenses. As of right now Young's height doesn't help him in the pass game because he releases the ball so low.

SBK
01-05-2006, 12:34 AM
I'm sure Leinart is classless for his 1 comment seconds after he just lost the last game of his college career. Let's having a feeling for the context of when it was said.

Leinart = Ken Dorsey

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:35 AM
Why do you hate Rush so much? Is it the killer lyrics, the expert playing ability, is it the huge connection they have with their fans all over the world-maybe that they have sold nearly 40 million records and have played 1500 sold out shows, including 5 straight nights at Madison Square Garden. Maybe it's the fact they are all about the music. Critics, radio, MTV, fashion trends, mean shit to them. They worked up from dive clubs, to be the best rock band in the world. Maybe its because they came back after Neil Peart lost his daughter and wife-and the band was all but dead-but somehow managed to overcome tragedy, to release an incredible CD in Vapor Trails, a multi platinum DVD-Rush in Rio, sold out concerts all over the world, and then celebrated 30 years of friendship with R30. They have a connection with their fans like no other-they have inspired countless bands, writers, and won the highest award given in Canada. Yeah your right they suck.

Funny you should talk about hate-I am not the one with F TEXAS in every thread.

Maybe it's that Rush makes me feel like my eyes are going to bleed.

I gave credit to Texas for winning the game in the game thread if you wanna check that out...........

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:35 AM
Leinart = Ken Dorsey

:rolleyes: Your sister has a better arm than Ken Dorsey.......

Rudy lost the toss
01-05-2006, 12:36 AM
Leinart = Ken Dorsey
then Vince Young = Maurice Clarett :hmmm:

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:37 AM
then Vince Young = Maurice Clarett :hmmm:

Shit, I better hide my cellphone.

SBK
01-05-2006, 12:38 AM
then Vince Young = Maurice Clarett :hmmm:

Nope.

Vince Young = Vick + a good passer rating

SBK
01-05-2006, 12:39 AM
:rolleyes: Your sister has a better arm than Ken Dorsey.......

I don't have a sister. I've never been real impressed with Leinart, he should have thanked his two RB's for the Heisman he got to hoist, cause without them he wouldn't have got it.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:42 AM
I don't have a sister. I've never been real impressed with Leinart, he should have thanked his two RB's for the Heisman he got to hoist, cause without them he wouldn't have got it.

Leinarts going to be like Trent Green in the NFL. That's my feeling on him. He's smart can get the ball to his playmakers make the right reads at the line all of that sorta stuff. But if you're gonna ask him to be the man and win games for you, I don't think he can do that.

Soupnazi
01-05-2006, 12:44 AM
No, that's a fact. I'd have said it 3 months ago if someone said something about Young in the NFL. John Gruden has Chris Simms on his roster, he made the comment that Chris had, had the least amount of coaching he'd ever seen any QB have. What's that tell you about old Mack Brown?

Simms got little coaching because he couldn't even beat out Major Applewhite for the starting position. I wouldn't rely on Gruden's opinion of the coaching of a former NFL QB's son to determine how Young's career will progress.

Young success in the NFL, as with all QB's, will depend largely on his supporting cast. But I don't see how anyone can say he'll be a flop when he holds the best QB efficiency rating in all of college football.

JohnnyV13
01-05-2006, 12:46 AM
Can't read Defenses? I thought Dan Fouts commented on how his height gives him an advantage on reading Defenses.... this is when he was 12 - 14 (in the first half). He finished the game 30/40. His year QB rating was 111.

I didn't say he CAN'T read defenses, I just said he seemed SLOW in reading defenses. It could be his offense is not a timing offense like KC's (or USC) for that matter. To me, it doesn't look like he goes through progressions that much. I think he's going to need work at the NFL level.

Notice when he was pressured with the Blitz on the last drive? His first thought was to run. Now, it works b/c he's a damn elusive runner. But I don't think he has the super agility of michael vick, though his passing numbers in college are much better than Vick's.

Mojo Rising
01-05-2006, 12:47 AM
Ok, I thought you were trying to say being tall made him better at reading defenses. As of right now Young's height doesn't help him in the pass game because he releases the ball so low.

I am saying that it helps him read the defense. You have to see th WR before you can throw it to him. That is at about the same height.

I too wanted SC to win today. I have family close to the program and I agreed to root for SC if they rooted for the Chiefs.

I got behind VY in last years Rose Bowl when he took control of the game and beat Michigan. This years game was very similiar, however, he was facing a team that could beat the Texans without Derrick Johnson forcing turnovers on the D side of the field.

You are unfairly comparing VY to running QB's. If he is such a bad passer then why is his QB Rating so good?

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:49 AM
He's in an offense built for him, look at Alex Smiths numbers in Utah last season.

obesecomic
01-05-2006, 12:49 AM
Young success in the NFL, as with all QB's, will depend largely on his supporting cast. But I don't see how anyone can say he'll be a flop when he holds the best QB efficiency rating in all of college football.[/QUOTE]


I do remember an elusive QB who reset the record books in Passer rating in college ball. How is Shaun King in the pros again?

Rudy lost the toss
01-05-2006, 12:49 AM
Simms got little coaching because he couldn't even beat out Major Applewhite for the starting position. I wouldn't rely on Gruden's opinion of the coaching of a former NFL QB's son to determine how Young's career will progress.

Young success in the NFL, as with all QB's, will depend largely on his supporting cast. But I don't see how anyone can say he'll be a flop when he holds the best QB efficiency rating in all of college football.
this does not always translate into NFL success (any Texas Tech QB, David Carr, any University of Houston QB back in the day, any number of the first round busts over the years) As for Simms... Texas fans wish Applewhite was the starter. Simms was alway undeservingly given the starting job

the Talking Can
01-05-2006, 12:50 AM
Young will be a better QB than Ron Mexico.

But as htismage frequently points out - better than bad does not equal good.

Anyways, I'm pretty impressed.

And Leinart won't be good like Carson Palmer, but he may be good like Brian Greise.

Rausch
01-05-2006, 12:52 AM
...I also think Halfcan hates everyone but he likes Rush. That's an assbackwards way to go through life.

ROFL

Rausch
01-05-2006, 12:53 AM
Bush won't be Touchdown Jesus in the NFL. He'll be good though. I'd take Larry Johnson over him every friggin day of the week.

I'd take Chris Simms over him right now...

obesecomic
01-05-2006, 12:55 AM
Vince Young will be an excellent Pro QB, but he will need a few years to figure out how to throw the ball like a man. If he can learn to throw like a man, and get on a team that can let him sit and learn for awhile, he can be a stud.

SBK
01-05-2006, 12:55 AM
I'd take Chris Simms over him right now...

Bush, or LJ?

Mecca
01-05-2006, 12:58 AM
Vince Young will be an excellent Pro QB, but he will need a few years to figure out how to throw the ball like a man. If he can learn to throw like a man, and get on a team that can let him sit and learn for awhile, he can be a stud.

"Throw the ball like a man" I pictured some weird commercial with guys talking about how manly they throw the ball then selling deodorant when you said that for some reason.

Halfcan
01-05-2006, 01:00 AM
Maybe it's that Rush makes me feel like my eyes are going to bleed.

I gave credit to Texas for winning the game in the game thread if you wanna check that out...........


I can understand what you are trying to say-rap music, makes want to puke. If you don't like the music,Geddys voice, Canadians, awesome drums and guitar playing, that is fine, not your cup of tea. But to dismiss them as no talent bums-that is shallow, and closed minded.

I have always loved Rush, but when they came back, it was amazing. That CD, personally came at a time when I had lost everything-or so I thought. But if Neil can come back from that-I could at least quit wallowing in self pitty and make a new life.

And another thing-I ain't about hate-just the opposite. I want to have fun in life. Ya, I rant at shit that irritates me-but I don't hate anyone on here. I make just the same amount of jokes at my own expense as I do others. If shit is funny its funny, I don't care who its about. Life is too short to get pissed about stuff you can't control. I know because like Rush, I got a second chance after being gone for a few minutes-believe me, you find out what is important in life.

JohnnyV13
01-05-2006, 01:02 AM
Vince Young will be an excellent Pro QB, but he will need a few years to figure out how to throw the ball like a man. If he can learn to throw like a man, and get on a team that can let him sit and learn for awhile, he can be a stud.

I thought he was talking about the Levitra commercial. Hmmmmm...maybe that's the solution. Vince has ED

Soupnazi
01-05-2006, 01:02 AM
this does not always translate into NFL success (any Texas Tech QB, David Carr, any University of Houston QB back in the day, any number of the first round busts over the years) As for Simms... Texas fans wish Applewhite was the starter. Simms was alway undeservingly given the starting job

Not saying he's a lock to succeed, but the "the guy can't throw" stuff is BS. He completes a high percentage, has a nearly 3/1 TD/INT ratio, and does a good job of handling pressure. He's gotten it done impressively two years in a row at the biggest game of the year. Instead of comparing him to Vick because he's black, why don't we compare him to another successful running college QB like Steve Young. That guy never did jack.

I'll say it again, given the right cast around him, I see no reason why he can't be every bit as successful as any other highly rated QB coming out of college.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 01:02 AM
Rush is just to 70's and annoying sounding to me than anything. I like bands like Sevendust, so Rush isn't my cup of tea that's for sure.....

Rausch
01-05-2006, 01:03 AM
Bush, or LJ?

Quoted the wrong post.

Heh....yeah. Um, that was the fault of the receptionist.

She'll be beaten severely.

I meant to quote a post on Vick II...

Pitt Gorilla
01-05-2006, 01:03 AM
Why do people think VY can't read a D? He hasn't seemed to have had a problem with that all year.

Halfcan
01-05-2006, 01:04 AM
Not saying he's a lock to succeed, but the "the guy can't throw" stuff is BS. He completes a high percentage, has a nearly 3/1 TD/INT ratio, and does a good job of handling pressure. He's gotten it done impressively two years in a row at the biggest game of the year. Instead of comparing him to Vick because he's black, why don't we compare him to another successful running college QB like Steve Young. That guy never did jack.

I'll say it again, given the right cast around him, I see no reason why he can't be every bit as successful as any other highly rated QB coming out of college.


I agree-he needs a year to ride the pine and learn. He needs to study the game more. A pro LB hits a lot harder-better learn to slide.

Pitt Gorilla
01-05-2006, 01:04 AM
Rush is just to 70's and annoying sounding to me than anything. I like bands like Sevendust, so Rush isn't my cup of tea that's for sure.....I like Sevendust. I listen to Rush. What's your point?

SBK
01-05-2006, 01:04 AM
Quoted the wrong post.

Heh....yeah. Um, that was the fault of the receptionist.

She'll be beaten severely.

I meant to quote a post on Vick II...

Kick her in the face for me would ya? ROFL

Mecca
01-05-2006, 01:05 AM
I like Sevendust. I listen to Rush. What's your point?

How old are you........

Mecca
01-05-2006, 01:06 AM
Why do people think VY can't read a D? He hasn't seemed to have had a problem with that all year.

Everyone is racist that's why! :)

SBK
01-05-2006, 01:07 AM
I agree-he needs a year to ride the pine and learn. He needs to study the game more. A pro LB hits a lot harder-better learn to slide.

It could be said that lots of those players he bounced off of tonight, in September at Ohio State, and last year against Michigan he will be playing against in the NFL.

I mean, he's not playing D2 talent here.

Halfcan
01-05-2006, 01:09 AM
Sevendust is a descent enough band. I would bet you Rush had some kind of influence on them. Weather its the lyrics, music, the drummer trying to pick up tips from Neils playing. Rush has taken over the world-you just don't know it yet.

Mecca
01-05-2006, 01:10 AM
Sevendust is a descent enough band. I would bet you Rush had some kind of influence on them. Weather its the lyrics, music, the drummer trying to pick up tips from Neils playing. Rush has taken over the world-you just don't know it yet.

I guess it is truely, Hell on earth. I knew the end of times would come 1 day. I guess it's hit and I didn't really know........

Halfcan
01-05-2006, 01:13 AM
I guess it is truely, Hell on earth. I knew the end of times would come 1 day. I guess it's hit and I didn't really know........


....And the Meek shall inherit the earth!

Ugly Duck
01-05-2006, 02:51 AM
maybe we were the only ones watching the game and the chiefs get lucky.........Don't mess with my wishful thinking.Fergit it! I was hoping that he would fall to #6 so Oakland could get him. After the National Championship - no way he falls that far. No way.

Rain Man
01-05-2006, 02:07 PM
Holy freakazoid. If anyone wants to criticize Vince Young after last night's game, you're just never going to be satisfied. To heck with Bush and Leinert, Vince Young is one of those guys I'd give up a draft for.

On that last drive, I told my wife that it was a foregone conclusion that Young would score the winning touchdown. That dude has poise to go along with pocket awareness, a live arm, and scrambling ability.

I repeat. Holy freakazoid.

SBK
01-05-2006, 02:09 PM
Holy freakazoid. If anyone wants to criticize Vince Young after last night's game, you're just never going to be satisfied. To heck with Bush and Leinert, Vince Young is one of those guys I'd give up a draft for.

On that last drive, I told my wife that it was a foregone conclusion that Young would score the winning touchdown. That dude has poise to go along with pocket awareness, a live arm, and scrambling ability.

I repeat. Holy freakazoid.

Bah, in the NFL WR's run for 200 yards, pass for 267, throw no picks, and don't get sacked. They also make 2 heisman winners on the other sideline seem ordinary.

You should know this!

Rain Man
01-05-2006, 02:18 PM
Bah, in the NFL WR's run for 200 yards, pass for 267, throw no picks, and don't get sacked. They also make 2 heisman winners on the other sideline seem ordinary.

You should know this!

I'll bet he even recognized John Candy up in the stands.

phxchief
01-05-2006, 02:22 PM
Leinarts going to be like Trent Green in the NFL. That's my feeling on him.

Good comparison for a bitter homer. I couldn't have put it better myself.

Although, with that said, a poor man's Trent Green would be more accurate.

dtebbe
01-05-2006, 02:23 PM
Why do people think VY can't read a D? He hasn't seemed to have had a problem with that all year.

Haters. Most people on this board think if the QB is anything but a slow white statue that something is wrong with them.

DT

phxchief
01-05-2006, 02:25 PM
He's in an offense built for him, look at Alex Smiths numbers in Utah last season.

No.

His offense and the zone read scheme is tailored for his running ability, but he is NOT in an UBER-friendly passing system ala Matt Leinart (with 2 great WRs and a great TE).

His passing numbers are unreal given the talent and system.