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Ultra Peanut
01-04-2006, 10:50 PM
Forget Young vs. Vick, Young vs. Smith, Young vs. Cunningham, Young vs. Peete, Young vs. World...

Reaper16
01-04-2006, 10:52 PM
Leinart is more of a prototypical NFL QB, while no one will ever question Vince's heart and desire.

Push - depends on what o-line they each play under.

Count Zarth
01-04-2006, 10:53 PM
Leinart's overrated. His arm is pretty average.

Young has all the tools, can scramble as well as anyone outside of Vick, and plenty accurate.

Saulbadguy
01-04-2006, 10:54 PM
Leinart lacks all the intangibles.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2006, 10:54 PM
Young is a taller Michael Vick, who happens to be right handed, as well. In the NFL, he doesn't get a lot of those runs you saw tonight. BTW, the Trojans must have watched our game vs. the Giants, because they immulated that tackling performance to a "T."

tk13
01-04-2006, 10:55 PM
I don't think either of them have great arms. Young's probably more efficient and obviously has better legs. I think Leinart's pretty intelligent, and can go down the field better. They let him change calls and all that at the line of scrimmage.

milkman
01-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Leinart's overrated. His arm is pretty average.

Young has all the tools, can scramble as well as anyone outside of Vick, and plenty accurate.

His arm is pretty average, but so is Green's.

Leinart has composure and pocket awareness.

Those traits usually lend themselves to success.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Young will have NFL Gm's pisspantsing themselves, line art not so much.

Count Zarth
01-04-2006, 10:56 PM
I don't think either of them have great arms.

Young's is clearly better than Leinart's.

siberian khatru
01-04-2006, 10:56 PM
When asked to comment on Vince Young's NFL MVP award, former Saint/Buccanneer/Texan/Jet/Cardinals player Matt Leinart responded, "I'm still the better quarterback."

jspchief
01-04-2006, 10:57 PM
There are a lot of factors beyond the individual's talent.

Leinart to the Texans with a lousy line? Bad news for him.

I could see Young going to the Titans and having pretty quick success.

Personally, I think Leinart is more likely to succeed.

Ultra Peanut
01-04-2006, 10:58 PM
When asked to comment on Vince Young's NFL MVP award, former Saint/Buccanneer/Texan/Jet/Cardinals player Matt Leinart responded, "I'm still the better quarterback."ROFL

Reaper16
01-04-2006, 10:58 PM
When asked to comment on Vince Young's NFL MVP award, former Saint/Buccanneer/Texan/Jet/Cardinals player Matt Leinart responded, "I'm still the better quarterback."
Cardinals? Does his arm translate to right field? I'll bet he bats 7th.

What was that? Arizona has a football team?

Mecca
01-04-2006, 10:58 PM
Ah, let's put this thread up after everyone is jizzing about Young.........but I ask. Why are you comparing a top 10 NFL draft pick to a player who will likely be moved to WR?

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2006, 10:59 PM
Young's is clearly better than Leinart's.

Leinart is more accurate. I'd rather have accuracy over arm strength, just me though.

I think Young would make a good WR, slash type of player.

tk13
01-04-2006, 10:59 PM
Young's is clearly better than Leinart's.
I think Leinart is better at throwing down the field.

Saulbadguy
01-04-2006, 11:00 PM
Ah, let's put this thread up after everyone is jizzing about Young.........but I ask. Why are you comparing a top 10 NFL draft pick to a player who will likely be moved to WR?
Leinart may have the hands to play WR, but doesn't he run a 4.9 40? That won't cut it in the NFL.

Taco John
01-04-2006, 11:00 PM
Ah, let's put this thread up after everyone is jizzing about Young.........but I ask. Why are you comparing a top 10 NFL draft pick to a player who will likely be moved to WR?


Oh please... I'm a Lienart fan myself, but Young is definitely not going to be playing WR.

jspchief
01-04-2006, 11:00 PM
Ah, let's put this thread up after everyone is jizzing about Young.........but I ask. Why are you comparing a top 10 NFL draft pick to a player who will likely be moved to WR?They aren't going to move Young to WR.

His mechanics are jacked, but scouts say they can raise his release with minor tweaking. It won't take an overhaul. The guy is going to be a QB in the NFL.

Tribal Warfare
01-04-2006, 11:00 PM
Ah, let's put this thread up after everyone is jizzing about Young.........but I ask. Why are you comparing a top 10 NFL draft pick to a player who will likely be moved to WR?


BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Raiduhs

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2006, 11:01 PM
Siberian,

I think Leinart also said, "We are the better team, but we couldn't get it done tonight, our D couldn't stop them."

58-4ever
01-04-2006, 11:01 PM
I think Vince Young will be a much better NFL QB. Leinart has a LESS than average arm, and Young reminds me of Randall Cunningham. He has a big arm and is extremely sippery.

Taco John
01-04-2006, 11:02 PM
I think USC is the better all around team. I think Texas had the best athlete on the field bar none.

NJ Chief Fan
01-04-2006, 11:03 PM
leinart or palmer?

Mecca
01-04-2006, 11:04 PM
That's rather unfortunate I think Young has a better shot of being a great WR than a Great QB. He's got size, speed, moves good open field skills.

beer bacon
01-04-2006, 11:05 PM
I voted Leinart, but his bitch quotient went up after he said USC was the better team in the postgame.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2006, 11:05 PM
I think USC is the better all around team. I think Texas had the best athlete on the field bar none.

USC had the best athlete to ever roam a sideline. Why keep him out of so many plays like they did?

Halfcan
01-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Matt better stick to ballet.

siberian khatru
01-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Siberian,

I think Leinart also said, "We are the better team, but we couldn't get it done tonight, our D couldn't stop them."

That'll teach me to exaggerate for comedic effect.

Reaper16
01-04-2006, 11:07 PM
USC had the best athlete to ever roam a sideline. Why keep him out of so many plays like they did?
Bruschi?

jspchief
01-04-2006, 11:09 PM
Bruschi?This place always delivers.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2006, 11:10 PM
Bruschi?

No, I was talking about Sean Salisbury.

Ultra Peanut
01-04-2006, 11:11 PM
Ah, let's put this thread up after everyone is jizzing about Young.........That's, uh... sort of WHY I put it up.

Mecca
01-04-2006, 11:12 PM
Matt Leinart isn't a can't miss NFL prospect, he doesn't have the natural talent of Carson Palmer or anything like that.

He's going to need players around him to help him win games but he's smart and gets the ball into the hands of his playmakers. Personally I think he's got alot of the same skills Trent Green does and would fit our current offense really well, but he won't make it till our pick.

Reaper16
01-04-2006, 11:12 PM
That's, uh... sort of WHY I put it up. If you didn't notice, Young has sort of become a big topic of discussion.
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Mecca
01-04-2006, 11:13 PM
That's, uh... sort of WHY I put it up.

I know I was being a smartass......I know my view on Young isn't one that's widely shared on here.

JohnnyV13
01-04-2006, 11:31 PM
I think Leinart will translate well to an NFL offense. He throws on time and to spots. He gets the ball out and quickly reads defenses...and he's accurate.

Young HOLDS THE BALL A LONG TIME. He doesn't throw in rythym and some of his passes can float. Now, I have to admit, I was rather suprised watching the game, then seeing his stats. He completes more than I would have thought and his passing efficiency is great.

Young's response to pressure is to run. It doesn't look like he goes through progressions that much. I think young has tools, but I thinik he's going to need a lot of coaching at the NFL level.

All that being said, Young might succeed quicker than Leinart if they were to get into situations with bad offensive lines. In fact, I think Leinart is the kind of QB that could be ruined if he were thrown into the fire behind a crummy line.

SBK
01-04-2006, 11:45 PM
USC had the best athlete to ever roam a sideline. Why keep him out of so many plays like they did?

4th and 1 with the national championship on the line and he was on the bench.

That's all you need to know about Reggie Bush.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2006, 11:53 PM
4th and 1 with the national championship on the line and he was on the bench.

That's all you need to know about Reggie Bush.

I don't think it was Bush's decision, but I wasn't there.

He wasn't in as many plays this game. I've seen a lot of their games, and he wasn't in there that much at all. Maybe cramps or something. Fouts and Jackson said some players were tightening up, etc.

Who knows though. You'd think he would've played more...

ferrarispider95
01-04-2006, 11:55 PM
4th and 1 with the national championship on the line and he was on the bench.

That's all you need to know about Reggie Bush.

VINCE YOUNG IS REGGIE'S DADDY

SBK
01-05-2006, 12:15 AM
I don't think it was Bush's decision, but I wasn't there.

He wasn't in as many plays this game. I've seen a lot of their games, and he wasn't in there that much at all. Maybe cramps or something. Fouts and Jackson said some players were tightening up, etc.

Who knows though. You'd think he would've played more...

No, he wasn't in because he's not the better back. I'd take his backup over Bush in the draft without question.

Besides, Reggie's been teabagged so much by all these media types, he's gonna be chafed for years, which should hamper his NFL performance as well.

Logical
01-05-2006, 12:19 AM
I really do not expect either to be steller in the NFL. I would expect Leinert to be a starter for a few years and settle solidly into a longtime #2 QB. Young is part of the current fad to be fascinated with tremendously athletic but immature passing QBs. He is adequate in college with simple and single reads, I doubt he will be so productive with the more complex coverages of the NFL.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-05-2006, 12:34 AM
No, he wasn't in because he's not the better back. I'd take his backup over Bush in the draft without question.

Besides, Reggie's been teabagged so much by all these media types, he's gonna be chafed for years, which should hamper his NFL performance as well.

No guy touches my teabags.