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Halfcan
01-07-2006, 10:12 PM
Hits and misses in his career?

Ebolapox
01-07-2006, 10:16 PM
considering he's a coach and not a gm, and never HAS been a GM, he has no official draft record--general managers are generally in charge of the draft

lameass

-EB-

DTLB58
01-07-2006, 10:17 PM
I was wondering the same thing myself.....Did he hand pick jonathan Vilma? Or did Terry Bradway have the final say on all picks?

melbar
01-07-2006, 10:17 PM
How much will that matter with Carl in charge? STFU

Halfcan
01-07-2006, 10:22 PM
considering he's a coach and not a gm, and never HAS been a GM, he has no official draft record--general managers are generally in charge of the draft

lameass

-EB-

So you are saying a coach has no input in draft choices? Do you try to be a f#ckin D#CK or does it just come naturally?

Mecca
01-07-2006, 10:22 PM
Here are the Jet's drafts from 2000-present, you can make your own determination.

2000
1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
1 13 John Abraham DE South Carolina
1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall
1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia
3 78 Laveranues Coles WR Florida State
5 143 Windrell Hayes WR Southern California
6 179 Tony Scott CB North Carolina State
7 218 Richard Seals DT Utah

2001
1 16 Santana Moss WR Miami
2 49 LaMont Jordan RB Maryland
3 79 Kareem McKenzie T Penn State
4 101 Jamie Henderson CB Georgia
7 206 James Reed NT Iowa State
7 217 Tupe Peko G Michigan State

2002
1 22 Bryan Thomas DE Ala.-Birmingham
2 57 Jon McGraw FS Kansas State
3 88 Chris Baker TE Michigan State
4 121 Alan Harper NT Fresno State
5 154 Jonathan Goodwin C Michigan

2003
1 4 Dewayne Robertson DT Kentucky
2 53 Victor Hobson OLB Michigan
3 85 B.J. Askew FB Michigan
5 140 Derek Pagel FS Iowa
5 150 Matt Walters DE Miami
6 200 Brooks Bollinger QB Wisconsin
7 237 Dave Yovanovits G Temple

2004
1 12 Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami
3 76 Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
4 108 Jerricho Cotchery WR North Carolina State
4 132 Adrian Jones T Kansas
5 143 Erik Coleman SS Washington State
6 178 Marko Cavka T Sacramento State
7 213 Darrell McClover OLB Miami
7 234 Trevor Johnson DE Nebraska
7 235 Derrick Ward RB Ottawa, Kan.
7 236 Rashad Washington FS Kansas State

2005
2 47 Nugent, Mike K 5-10 182 Ohio State
2 57 Miller, Justin CB 5-10 202 Clemson
3 88 Pouha, Sione DT 6-3 329 Utah
4 123 Rhodes, Kerry FS 6-2 209 Louisville
5 161 Maddox, Andre SS 6-1 205 North Carolina State
6 182 Houston, Cedric RB 5-11 225 Tennessee
6 198 Dreessen, Joel TE 6-4 260 Colorado State
7 240 Williams, Harry WR 6-2 175 Tuskegee

Chiefs Pantalones
01-07-2006, 10:23 PM
4-12.

:D

elvomito
01-07-2006, 10:28 PM
ummmm shit. i forgot he picked a ****in kicker with their first pick last year
he's got some splainin ta doo

Mecca
01-07-2006, 10:31 PM
ummmm shit. i forgot he picked a ****in kicker with their first pick last year
he's got some splainin ta doo

Well, they couldn't bring Brien back after the whole city wanted to kill him. Alot of Jet's fans were actually happy with that pick thinking, "the kicker was why we lost in the playoffs".

Ari Chi3fs
01-07-2006, 10:32 PM
2000 and 2001 were solid.

tk13
01-07-2006, 10:39 PM
There are some recognizable names there, but also, their two starting safeties are Rhodes and Coleman, both 2nd day picks the last two years.

Halfcan
01-07-2006, 10:43 PM
2000 and 2001 were solid.


Yeah but a lot of misses. Damm, I was hoping maybe we could get some good picks this year. But after seeing Mecca's list-I wonder. :hmmm:

Oh yeah I forgot its all the GM according to Ebola-so maybe we have a chance.

SNR
01-07-2006, 10:48 PM
We'll draft the next Brooks Bollinger

Halfcan
01-07-2006, 10:54 PM
We'll draft the next Brooks Bollinger

lol, would rather have the next Santana Moss or Coles.

Spicy McHaggis
01-07-2006, 11:35 PM
2000 and 2001 were solid.

It's hard to miss with three first rounders but yeah they've done alright.

jAZ
01-08-2006, 12:15 AM
Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
John Abraham DE South Carolina
Chad Pennington QB Marshall
Anthony Becht TE West Virginia
Laveranues Coles WR Florida State
Santana Moss WR Miami
LaMont Jordan RB Maryland
Dewayne Robertson DT Kentucky
Victor Hobson OLB Michigan
Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami


I think all of the above picks improved their team. Most are starters in this league. That's at least average or above.

Rausch
01-08-2006, 12:18 AM
The Chiefs drafted a helluva' lot better with him than without him...

Logical
01-08-2006, 12:29 AM
Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
John Abraham DE South Carolina
Chad Pennington QB Marshall
Anthony Becht TE West Virginia
Laveranues Coles WR Florida State
Santana Moss WR Miami
LaMont Jordan RB Maryland
Dewayne Robertson DT Kentucky
Victor Hobson OLB Michigan
Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami


I think all of the above picks improved their team. Most are starters in this league. That's at least average or above.Though the Chiefs drafting has never been steller, I think it went downhill after Bradaway left. Though I am sure Herm gets some credit I would attribute most of the credit to Bradaway.

melbar
01-08-2006, 12:35 AM
Edwards drafts seemed better on the first day than the chiefs, and the Chiefs 2nd day drafts are better. hopefully this merges into the perfect draft.

jAZ
01-08-2006, 12:36 AM
Though the Chiefs drafting has never been steller, I think it went downhill after Bradaway left. Though I am sure Herm gets some credit I would attribute most of the credit to Bradaway.
I think you might be right. In either case, I think it's a non-issue for us. I certainly don't expect that Herm will make us any worse in the draft. If he has any influence at all on the defensive selections, I suspect it will only help us in that respect.

Tribal Warfare
01-08-2006, 12:41 AM
Edwards drafts seemed better on the first day than the chiefs, and the Chiefs 2nd day drafts are better. hopefully this merges into the perfect draft.

Of course Carl always screws the pouch unless a miracle like DJ falls in our laps

Halfcan
01-08-2006, 12:42 AM
I think you might be right. In either case, I think it's a non-issue for us. I certainly don't expect that Herm will make us any worse in the draft. If he has any influence at all on the defensive selections, I suspect it will only help us in that respect.

I hope we fill a some defensive positions in the draft, because I don't think you are going to see a bunch of FA's. Carl will spout some stuff like Herm is going to get the best out of them.

A badazz WR in the second round would be okay with me also. Put Corner or Safety for our first pick on my wish list. We have to upgrade the secondary. DT is what we need-but with the huge bust at the spot over the last decade-that might be hoping for too much.

Logical
01-08-2006, 12:42 AM
I think you might be right. In either case, I think it's a non-issue for us. I certainly don't expect that Herm will make us any worse in the draft. If he has any influence at all on the defensive selections, I suspect it will only help us in that respect.

My hope is Herm will not have the propensity towards gambling in the first day's picks that the Chiefs have shown over the years. That alone should be a positive influence. Add to that Herm's knowledge on good DBs.

Halfcan
01-08-2006, 12:46 AM
Edwards drafts seemed better on the first day than the chiefs, and the Chiefs 2nd day drafts are better. hopefully this merges into the perfect draft.


Yeah lets hope this happens. Like 5 solid picks-that can hit and tackle. I want some guys that want to knock the crap out of people. Time to shead the "soft" cryin image.

Halfcan
01-08-2006, 12:50 AM
My hope is Herm will not have the propensity towards gambling in the first day's picks that the Chiefs have shown over the years. That alone should be a positive influence. Add to that Herm's knowledge on good DBs.


You mean like Trezelle, my god the guy ate his signing bonus and couldn't fit into a uniform. What a bust that pick was. Worst ever?

We need a corner to replace 4 million dollar drunk Warfield. A safety to take over for Mr. Inconsistent Wesley, would be good also. Do we dare roll the dice and draft another Def Tackle?

Logical
01-08-2006, 12:56 AM
You mean like Trezelle, my god the guy ate his signing bonus and couldn't fit into a uniform. What a bust that pick was. Worst ever?

We need a corner to replace 4 million dollar drunk Warfield. A safety to take over for Mr. Inconsistent Wesley, would be good also. Do we dare roll the dice and draft another Def Tackle?Personally I would like to see Warfied replaced at #2 CB and have him replace Wesley at safety. I think Warfield would make a hell of a safety.

Rausch
01-08-2006, 12:57 AM
Personally I would like to see Warfied replaced at #2 CB and have him replace Wesley at safety. I think Warfield would make a hell of a safety.

Gee, I wonder why... :hmmm:

Logical
01-08-2006, 01:02 AM
Gee, I wonder why... :hmmm:Brings up a serious question, does Herm like to draft safeties and tweeners for the CB spot, I hope not.

Spicy McHaggis
01-08-2006, 01:03 AM
Gee, I wonder why... :hmmm:

It's almost as if he has played the position before...

Halfcan
01-08-2006, 01:08 AM
Personally I would like to see Warfied replaced at #2 CB and have him replace Wesley at safety. I think Warfield would make a hell of a safety.

Umm EW can't hit, and is not a great tackler. He usually grabs at their jersey and hangs on or tries and push the guy out of bounds.

If he ever does get in the position to get an interception, he does have good hands and descent speed. But I would like a hard hitter back there to compliment Sammy. Also to make the other teams WR's scared to go over the middle-ala-Sean Taylor. Nobody is scared of EW-they game plan for him.

Rausch
01-08-2006, 01:09 AM
It's almost as if he has played the position before...

No.....I mean. Wait.

No. It must have left me.

We need to draft another safety. Definitly.

I don't know where we'll put him, but DE seems like a brilliant idea...

Chiefs Pantalones
01-08-2006, 01:27 AM
Of course Carl always screws the pouch unless a miracle like DJ falls in our laps

I just made love to your avatar and sig...again.

tk13
01-08-2006, 01:31 AM
Brings up a serious question, does Herm like to draft safeties and tweeners for the CB spot, I hope not.
Eh, I don't think so... they've done a pretty good job of drafting in the secondary. No huge names, but guys who step in and do the job. By the end of the year just this season, they had a rookie at CB (Justin Miller), a rookie safety (Rhodes) and a 2nd year safety (Coleman), along with Ty Law in their starting secondary... and they still finished in the top 10 in just about every major category of pass defense.

Halfcan
01-08-2006, 01:34 AM
Our secondary in the top ten of anything but TD's and yards given up, would suit me.