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Coach
01-08-2006, 11:49 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2284744

Report: Longhorns' Young to declare for draft

ESPN.com news services


Longhorns junior quarterback Vince Young will declare for the NFL draft at a 4 p.m. news conference Sunday, his godmother told The Dallas Morning News.

Young and his mother, Felicia, met with Young's pastor, Samuel H. Smith, in Houston on Sunday before making the decision, Yolande Levine told The Morning News

According to Levine, Young was on his way to Austin to tell Texas coach Mack Brown his decision to go pro.

"After that performance in the Rose Bowl, I think we all kind of knew which way he was going to go," Levine told the newspaper.

Team and league sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that the Texans will pass on Young, a Houston native, and select USC running back Reggie Bush with the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft, pending the formality of Bush announcing that he is turning pro.

Almost nothing will change that course, the sources told Mortensen.

The Texans will pick up an $8 million option on quarterback David Carr, who was the expansion team's first draft pick four years ago. Texans owner Bob McNair made the decision after getting extensive evaluations from various sources that strongly endorsed Carr, including a favorable report from Dan Reeves, the former longtime NFL coach hired last month as a consultant.

USC's Matt Leinart, who could have been the first pick a year ago had he turned pro after his junior season, still remains the consensus top quarterback in the NFL draft, even if Young comes out. For Leinart, he is likely to be the choice of the New Orleans Saints at No. 2 with Young projected to the Tennessee Titans at No. 3.

Steve McNair, who has been mentoring Young, including a visit to watch the Rose Bowl, will be lobbying the Titans to select Young with the third pick, Mortensen reported. Of course, McNair has to re-sign with the Titans for that to happen.

Leinart also would be desirable to Tennessee, where his former USC offensive coordinator Norm Chow is now calling plays for the Titans.

the Talking Can
01-08-2006, 11:53 AM
sweet, that's one more good player that gets bumped down closer to us...

Mile High Mania
01-08-2006, 12:02 PM
Interesting, it's definitely going to pay off for him financially, but it will be curious to see which team drafts him. McNair is his mentor, maybe he'll fall to TN... he definitely needs to go somewhere where he can make the adjustment for a year.

If he's thrown to the wolves on a bad offense... it could be really bad for him. There's no denying his talent, but he rarely takes a snap from under center - it's always the shotgun and that just won't fly on the pro level.

KCJake
01-08-2006, 12:08 PM
Everyone is saying Young is a top 3 pick FOR SURE. How can that be? After one good(great) game?? This guy to me, looks like a poor mans Michael Vick.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2006, 12:10 PM
Everyone is saying Young is a top 3 pick FOR SURE. How can that be? After one good(great) game?? This guy to me, looks like a poor mans Michael Vick.

I think Vick is way more hype... Young is bigger and I think he passes better. Running the ball, I think Young is just as electric. I don't think he will be a "great" QB on the pro level, but if he can have time to adjust and improve, maybe.

ChiefsCountry
01-08-2006, 12:14 PM
Texans need O-line help bad, if they take Bush or Young that would be so stupid of them.

Spicy McHaggis
01-08-2006, 12:16 PM
Interesting, it's definitely going to pay off for him financially, but it will be curious to see which team drafts him. McNair is his mentor, maybe he'll fall to TN... he definitely needs to go somewhere where he can make the adjustment for a year.

If he's thrown to the wolves on a bad offense... it could be really bad for him. There's no denying his talent, but he rarely takes a snap from under center - it's always the shotgun and that just won't fly on the pro level.

It will be interesting to see where he goes. Keep in mind though that Alex Smith rarely took a snap from under center either and he was still selected #1. Granted he was a much more accomplished passer coming out of college and comparing his style of play to Young's is hard to do.

Mecca
01-08-2006, 12:18 PM
sweet, that's one more good player that gets bumped down closer to us...

That's exactly my feeling on it too, maybe a few more crap guys will go high.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2006, 12:20 PM
Texans need O-line help bad, if they take Bush or Young that would be so stupid of them.

That's exactly why I think the Texans should find a team and trade out of that pick... pick up a bounty of picks and move down b/t the top 10-17 picks in R1 with additional R2/R3 picks. Something that will allow them to focus on the Oline.

Carr can be successful and we have seen Davis do well... it's their Oline that sucks so incredibly badly. I think they should trade out of that #1 pick for a combo of players/picks or something like that.

I just don't see spending the money that a top pick is going to demand is going to help them now... they have a nice trio in the making with Carr/ AJ / Davis... they need Oline help and I'd like to see them get a better #2 receiver and a TE.

milkman
01-08-2006, 12:21 PM
That's exactly my feeling on it too, maybe a few more crap guys will go high.

I'm on that same page.

Any more juniors that could declare that will push a good player to the Chiefs spot?

Spicy McHaggis
01-08-2006, 12:28 PM
That's exactly why I think the Texans should find a team and trade out of that pick... pick up a bounty of picks and move down b/t the top 10-17 picks in R1 with additional R2/R3 picks. Something that will allow them to focus on the Oline.

Carr can be successful and we have seen Davis do well... it's their Oline that sucks so incredibly badly. I think they should trade out of that #1 pick for a combo of players/picks or something like that.

I just don't see spending the money that a top pick is going to demand is going to help them now... they have a nice trio in the making with Carr/ AJ / Davis... they need Oline help and I'd like to see them get a better #2 receiver and a TE.


Good take. It makes too much sense with the OLine draft being as deep as it is to settle for a "savior" who won't be able to do much behind that line. Bush would be like Barry Sanders. Every yard he got would pretty much be a yard he had to make himself.

Mile High Mania
01-08-2006, 12:31 PM
And, regarding Bush - he's electric, but I'm not certain that he'll have a better pro career than White. White is tough as nails and hits the hole hard... I think I'd want him over bush as a pure pounding RB.

jAZ
01-08-2006, 12:34 PM
Brock's predicting that Vince Young won't be drafted until the 2nd round at the earliest (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2946035&postcount=4).

ck_IN
01-08-2006, 12:37 PM
If Houston does anything besides trade down for more picks and use them for Oline help then they deserve whatever record they get.

Bush isn't what he's cracked up to be. I see him as a slot WR and KR. A little like Peter Warrick. Between Carr and Davis, Houston has a decent O. They need Oline now.

Spicy McHaggis
01-08-2006, 12:39 PM
Bush isn't what he's cracked up to be. I see him as a slot WR and KR. A little like Peter Warrick.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say he has a better pro career Peter Warrick.

milkman
01-08-2006, 12:41 PM
And, regarding Bush - he's electric, but I'm not certain that he'll have a better pro career than White. White is tough as nails and hits the hole hard... I think I'd want him over bush as a pure pounding RB.

I don't know where he's projected to go, but I could see Pittsburg drafting White if he's there when they pick, with Bettis possibly retiring.

ck_IN
01-08-2006, 12:55 PM
<i>I'm going to go out on a limb and say he has a better pro career Peter Warrick.</i>

He probably will but I think the Gale Sayers comparison is sorely lacking. Warrick is a closer one IMHO.

Mecca
01-08-2006, 12:57 PM
<i>I'm going to go out on a limb and say he has a better pro career Peter Warrick.</i>

He probably will but I think the Gale Sayers comparison is sorely lacking. Warrick is a closer one IMHO.

Because comparing a RB to a WR is a good comparison..... :spock:

Bearcat
01-08-2006, 01:10 PM
Everyone is saying Young is a top 3 pick FOR SURE. How can that be? After one good(great) game?? This guy to me, looks like a poor mans Michael Vick.

To name a couple of others, he came back and beat Ohio State earlier this year, and came back and beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl last year.

I agree with whoever said he needs to sit behind someone for a year.... but he's had the poise the NFL likes to see longer than a week.

ChiefsCountry
01-08-2006, 01:12 PM
<i>I'm going to go out on a limb and say he has a better pro career Peter Warrick.</i>

He probably will but I think the Gale Sayers comparison is sorely lacking. Warrick is a closer one IMHO.

I'll say he will be more like Desmond Howard.

jAZ
01-08-2006, 01:39 PM
I'd say that Vince Young is better compared to Jake Plummer than Michael Vick. He's mobile and a playmaker. But he is able to make plays with his arm.

He's probably a better prospect than Plummer was coming into the league. It will probably take the right situation and as many years to get Young to be consistant like Plummer has been for the first time this year.

Dayze
01-08-2006, 07:20 PM
if some selects him in the top 15 picks I'll be shocked.

nascher
01-08-2006, 07:46 PM
get ready for a shock !!!

Halfcan
01-08-2006, 07:49 PM
Maybe we will get a CB?

Bug
01-08-2006, 07:51 PM
get ready for a shock !!!

I'll second that.

Cochise
01-08-2006, 08:19 PM
He's more like a Culpepper with better legs than he is Vick.

jAZ
01-08-2006, 08:25 PM
I don't see the Jets passing on Young with their #4 pick. In fact, if I were running the entire draft I would do the following...

1) Titans - Reggie Bush (trade w/ Texans)
2) Saints - Matt Leinart
3) Texans - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (trade w/ Titans)
4) Jets - Vince Young

WilliamTheIrish
01-08-2006, 09:44 PM
Whoever drafts him has a lot of work ahead of them.

The payoff could be incredible.

Or it could be the football draft equivalent of Portland taking Sam Bowie and letting Jordan get picked by the Bulls.

luv
01-08-2006, 09:51 PM
If he's that good this year, wouldn't he be even better with another year of coaching and experience? Did he graduate early? If not, even though he will make millions as a pro, it's a shame that a career is coming before the opportunity for a free education. I wish him all the best though. I'm sure he'll do great.

Bull
01-08-2006, 09:56 PM
Young reminds me of Randall Cunningham who played with Minnesota and the Eagles, but possibly better.

Rain Man
01-08-2006, 09:57 PM
Bah. You people are a bunch of skeptics. Young is going to be very successful in the NFL.


And luv, I suspect that he's going pro now because there's no way his stock can increase next year. With his current reputation, there's no room left for an increase, so he can get top dollar right now. While I'm a big supporter of college, something tells me that the cost of a college education won't be a barrier for him in the future.

luv
01-08-2006, 09:59 PM
Bah. You people are a bunch of skeptics. Young is going to be very successful in the NFL.


And luv, I suspect that he's going pro now because there's no way his stock can increase next year. With his current reputation, there's no room left for an increase, so he can get top dollar right now. While I'm a big supporter of college, something tells me that the cost of a college education won't be a barrier for him in the future.
I just look at NFL players as being examples. To skip out on education...what does that tell kids?

I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate. I think he'll be great, too.

Rain Man
01-08-2006, 10:04 PM
I just look at NFL players as being examples. To skip out on education...what does that tell kids?

I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate. I think he'll be great, too.


If you're really playing devil's advocate, I should let you know that my soul is not for sale, not at any price.

luv
01-08-2006, 10:06 PM
If you're really playing devil's advocate, I should let you know that my soul is not for sale, not at any price.
Can you play a fiddle?

Rain Man
01-08-2006, 10:19 PM
Can you play a fiddle?

My name's Rain Man and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet, you're gonna regret, 'Cause I'm the best that's ever been.

luv
01-08-2006, 10:22 PM
My name's Rain Man and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet, you son of a bitch, 'Cause I'm the best that's ever been.
That's the version I had in mind.

KcMizzou
01-08-2006, 10:23 PM
My name's Rain Man and it might be a sin, but I'll take your bet, you're gonna regret, 'Cause I'm the best that's ever been.Where's Bwana with his Eli Manning / Deliverance pic when you need him?

Mecca
01-08-2006, 10:30 PM
You can never have enough Eli.......

KcMizzou
01-08-2006, 10:32 PM
:clap: Thanks!

Torch7
01-12-2006, 09:16 AM
For the College advocates... Vince has been on Campus for 4 years, he redshirted his freshman year.

Bob Dole
01-12-2006, 11:04 AM
I don't see the Jets passing on Young with their #4 pick. In fact, if I were running the entire draft I would do the following...

1) Titans - Reggie Bush (trade w/ Texans)
2) Saints - Matt Leinart
3) Texans - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (trade w/ Titans)
4) Jets - Vince Young

Haven't you heard? The Chiefs might move up and take Young!