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doomy3
01-08-2006, 06:36 PM
Saw this on Jetsinsider...What do you think about this?

Our first round pick for John Abraham? Here is the post about it.

http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107526

Joe Seahawk
01-08-2006, 06:37 PM
That would be dumb IMO.. Build through the draft..

Don't go trading your first round picks.. :banghead:

JBucc
01-08-2006, 06:39 PM
I don't think so

doomy3
01-08-2006, 06:39 PM
That would be dumb IMO.. Build through the draft..

Don't go trading your first round picks.. :banghead:


I tend to agree with you. I wonder if there is any validity to this or if someone is just starting more stories...

KChiefs1
01-08-2006, 06:44 PM
He can be had for much less than a first round pick.

Reaper16
01-08-2006, 06:45 PM
We don't need Abraham. We have Allen at the left side, and John is not playing the right.

Count Alex's Losses
01-08-2006, 06:47 PM
Allen plays the right side, actually.

Someone mentioned on another thread that most cover 2 defenses have smallish defensive ends. We might be able to make it work with Abraham playing full-time at the other DE spot.

If Germ does indeed decide to install the cover 2.

Reaper16
01-08-2006, 06:52 PM
Allen plays the right side, actually.

Someone mentioned on another thread that most cover 2 defenses have smallish defensive ends. We might be able to make it work with Abraham playing full-time at the other DE spot.

If Germ does indeed decide to install the cover 2.
Heh. That's what I meant. I was never good with directions. :)

I think, regardless of ends, we're too weak at the DT position to run the cover 2. Actually... we're too weak at the DT position to effectively run Gun's scheme. We just need a DT upgrade, regardless.

Count Alex's Losses
01-08-2006, 06:56 PM
I think, regardless of ends, we're too weak at the DT position to run the cover 2.

That is why we have to upgrade at DT.

Personally I think the cover 2 relies TOO MUCH on the defensive line and we can't upgrade it enough in one offseason.

I'd rather play Washington's style of defense.

Reaper16
01-08-2006, 07:14 PM
That is why we have to upgrade at DT.

Personally I think the cover 2 relies TOO MUCH on the defensive line and we can't upgrade it enough in one offseason.

I'd rather play Washington's style of defense.
Mmmm, linebackers making plays. Sounds yummy.

Rausch
01-08-2006, 07:18 PM
But I wanna' 3-4!!!

Bowser
01-08-2006, 07:18 PM
Mmmm, linebackers making plays. Sounds yummy.

What is this you speak of?

I think there is a rule that forbids KC linebackers from making game changing interceptions or scoring touchdowns.

Reaper16
01-08-2006, 07:19 PM
But I wanna' 3-4!!!
Nice option...need a big ol' nose tackle. Again, the position of need is DT. :banghead:

Bowser
01-08-2006, 07:19 PM
But I wanna' 3-4!!!

YOU'LL HAVE NOTHING AND LIKE IT!!

Rausch
01-08-2006, 07:22 PM
Nice option...need a big ol' nose tackle. Again, the position of need is DT. :banghead:

I keep hearing how X type of defense requires good DT's.

Exactly what type of defense DOESN'T require DT's worth a $#it?...Is there some Suck-arse-DT-Scheme I'm not aware of?

Crush
01-08-2006, 07:28 PM
Also for an effective 3-4, you'll need huge ass DEs to take up blocks to allow the linebackers to make plays.

Rausch
01-08-2006, 07:34 PM
Also for an effective 3-4, you'll need huge ass DEs to take up blocks to allow the linebackers to make plays.

Browning's best year was as a DE in the 3-4. Jr and Sims would be fine NT's in a 3-4.

Hicks sucks in any defense so who gives a $#it about him...

Chiefaholic
01-08-2006, 07:38 PM
Jets are $30 million over the cap. They can't afford to franchise John and keep some form of team around him. He'll be an UFA.

chief118
01-08-2006, 07:40 PM
Erick Hicks sucks we need to get rid of him. Having Abraham would help our dD out alot. Infact that would free up Allen cause the other team would have to focus on Abraham as well. Maybe a second round pick. We also might have CAP issues to worry about, so Abraham would have to settle for an so so contract. If we can Bell & HIcks we might have a shot. Then draft a stud at DT position. Keep Simms. Maybe with those new guys it would take the pressure off Simms and he could step up and do some thangs.

Cochise
01-08-2006, 07:40 PM
Also for an effective 3-4, you'll need huge ass DEs to take up blocks to allow the linebackers to make plays.

I was also going to be worried about our run defense, in this hypothetical situation with potentialy 2 almost linebacker-sized defensive ends

Rausch
01-08-2006, 07:46 PM
I was also going to be worried about our run defense, in this hypothetical situation with potentialy 2 almost linebacker-sized defensive ends

If we run a 4-3 do they magically gain 30 lbs?...

FRCDFED
01-08-2006, 09:09 PM
Teams would not part with a 1st round pick last offseason for either Shawn Alexander or Edge. Hell, they wouldn't even part with a 2nd round pick for that matter.

Now Jets fans think we would trade a 1st rounder for a defensive player? Now that's laughable!

rtmike
01-08-2006, 09:14 PM
He's a free agent, what's the purpose of trading?

chappy
01-08-2006, 09:22 PM
I keep hearing how X type of defense requires good DT's.

Exactly what type of defense DOESN'T require DT's worth a $#it?...Is there some Suck-arse-DT-Scheme I'm not aware of?

Its called a 5-2