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Rain Man
01-09-2006, 03:08 PM
Poll to follow, after this word from Mel Kiper.

Brock
01-09-2006, 03:58 PM
A couple of weeks ago, I was thinking his screwy delivery would drop him into the second round. I really don't think that's going to work in the NFL.

But given his huge performance, I'm not sure now.

Chiefnj
01-09-2006, 04:44 PM
Picks 1,2,3,4,6,9 and 10 could all use a QB. I say in the top 10. I think Leinert still has the edge because he has shown he is a passer first. Bush will be taken in the top 3. Young can use a little more work as a passer so I think he'll go 3-10.

Torch7
01-12-2006, 10:09 AM
Just out of curiosity... why do you think young needs more work as a passer?

I agree... but I also believe Leinhart needs work as a passer as well..

Brock
01-12-2006, 10:42 AM
Just out of curiosity... why do you think young needs more work as a passer?

I agree... but I also believe Leinhart needs work as a passer as well..

His throwing motion is low. I think it will lead to lots and lots of passes being batted down and/or intercepted.

ct
01-12-2006, 11:41 AM
#3

Torch7
01-12-2006, 01:47 PM
I understand that his throwing motion calls for a low release, but is there anything else that calls his ability to be a NFL QB into question?

I really appreciate the national perspective on this kid.

eazyb81
01-12-2006, 01:56 PM
Titans will take him at #3 so he can sit for a year and be mentored by Air McNair.

Mecca
01-12-2006, 06:01 PM
I understand that his throwing motion calls for a low release, but is there anything else that calls his ability to be a NFL QB into question?

I really appreciate the national perspective on this kid.

His release point is to low, his footwork is bad. Everything about the way he passes will need to be changed for the NFL game. Even Micheal Vick has proper passing mechanics, this guy doesn't even have that. He also doesn't have Vicks arm strength.

All of that being said, some team will probably risk it high and pick him. I hope they do, the more iffy players that go high the better chance the Chiefs have of getting a better player.

Torch7
01-13-2006, 12:22 PM
I understand why those who are a bit leary of Vince say those things...
Those of us who have seen him play since high school are optimistic, because we have seen how clutch this kid is despite looking unorthodox.

Here is a post I posted on another board to a fan who said he hasn't seen him make any good throws, now keep in mind I know, that VINCE has to improve, in many areas, but so does everyone else coming into the league...But here is some of the potential we Vince Young fans see:

--Post taken from another board ---
In response to Vince making the tough throws..

Junior year:
http://www.jcdenton40.com/UTvKU04-TonyJeffrey-Catch1(DivX).avi

Clutch throw under pressure:
http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvOHST05-BillyPittman-Catch2-R1(DivX).avi
http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvOHST05-LimasSweed-TD(DivX).avi

Big12 Championship Game
http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-LimasSweed-TD(DivX).avi

Giving it to his receiver in a position to run:
http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-LimasSweed-Catch1(DivX).avi

Putting it where only his receiver can make the play:
http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-DavidThomas-TD(DivX).avi

Off his back foot tear drop
http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvTTU05-BillyPittman-TD1-R1(DivX).avi

Tons of Vince Highlights on http://www.jcdenton40.com -- for those who need to see more.

John Matrix
01-14-2006, 01:41 AM
Vince will be taken higher than he should...he has suspect arm strength, and like Bill Simmons said, it looks like he's trying to get dog crap off of his hand when he releases the ball.

Torch7
01-17-2006, 08:44 AM
While I will agree that his motion is unorthodox... there aren't many scouts, that I have heard an analysis that said his arm strength was in question... He has a much stronger arm than Leinhart.

Tribal Warfare
01-17-2006, 08:55 AM
Vince will be taken higher than he should...he has suspect arm strength, and like Bill Simmons said, it looks like he's trying to get dog crap off of his hand when he releases the ball.

So what he has a weird release the guy is 6'5" so he can get away with that, and therefore their shouldn't be a worry about batted footballs by D-linemen.

Brock
01-18-2006, 11:24 AM
So what he has a weird release the guy is 6'5" so he can get away with that, and therefore their shouldn't be a worry about batted footballs by D-linemen.

Elvis Grbac is 6'5" as well. Of course it should be a concern. He isn't going to get the kind of throwing lanes he got in college.

KevB
01-18-2006, 01:58 PM
Elvis Grbac is 6'5" as well. Of course it should be a concern. He isn't going to get the kind of throwing lanes he got in college.

Yes, he will. He'll create throwing lanes with his feet....side-stepping, rolling out of the pocket,etc.

KevB
01-18-2006, 02:01 PM
His release point is to low, his footwork is bad. Everything about the way he passes will need to be changed for the NFL game. Even Micheal Vick has proper passing mechanics, this guy doesn't even have that. He also doesn't have Vicks arm strength.

All of that being said, some team will probably risk it high and pick him. I hope they do, the more iffy players that go high the better chance the Chiefs have of getting a better player.

The comparison of Vick to Vince as passers doesn't hold water IMO. Vick looks good throwing the ball, flick of wrist, bullet throws, etc. The difference is that Vince is more accurate than Vick has ever been. He's unorthodox, but very accurate.