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Hoover
01-17-2006, 08:48 PM
610 reported today at about 5 pm that Saunders and Herm Edwards met for about 2 hours on Saturday.

Intresting, I'd love to have Al back.

Anyway, I'm stuck in the hell hole that is called Council Bluffs.....

tk13
01-17-2006, 08:51 PM
Yeah, if he's coming back, I imagine it'd have to be Herm doing the sell job.

FAX
01-17-2006, 08:51 PM
Mr. Hoover. Thanks for the post. I, too, hope that Al sees fit to keep putting the best offense in the NFL on the field.

I thought Council Bluffs was nice. Isn't that where the bluebird of happiness glass blowing place is? I'm serious.

FAX THE SERIOUS

PastorMikH
01-17-2006, 08:52 PM
Ok, which website did you steal this from and how credible is the source???



:p

VonneMarie
01-17-2006, 08:53 PM
610 also reported Law was a Chief...


Yay! If Herm could bring Saunders back. :)

sedated
01-17-2006, 08:58 PM
Al was probably tendering his resignation

BigRedChief
01-17-2006, 09:00 PM
Ok, which website did you steal this from and how credible is the source???



:p

Rhonda Moss is the source of the report on 610.

SLAG
01-17-2006, 09:01 PM
IMO,

Saunders is staying.. and heres why.


Al , has spent a good amount of time in the leauge, He wants to get back to the superbowl, (I mean thats what its all about right...)

the Best Chance he has is Right here... Especially with Herm.

I think al Sees the D improving and Will be Electing to Stay here In KC

Bob Dole
01-17-2006, 09:02 PM
I thought Council Bluffs was nice. Isn't that where the bluebird of happiness glass blowing place is? I'm serious.

FAX THE SERIOUS
Those damned Gilman's don't have anything to do with that do they?

Hoover
01-17-2006, 09:06 PM
He is my Saunders Theory

Saunders made over 1 million per year as Chiefs OC.

The teams that are looking for new HC's are not ones that are willing to shell out large coaching dollars.

Its all about money, just like in real life. I'm sure Al told Herm, Give me Gregg Williams type money and I'll be your OC.

FAX
01-17-2006, 09:10 PM
Those damned Gilman's don't have anything to do with that do they?

I am unfamiliar with those damned Gilmans, Mr. Bob Dole. However, I remember (as if in a dream) driving through Arkansas on a back road (two lane blacktop) and coming across a place that specialized in hand-blown, glass bluebirds of happiness. The place had thousands upon thousands of the little guys.

Plus, and even more strange to me, they had an extraordinary sculpture garden replete with mythical characters, gnomes riding turtles, ogres, a giant metal beast with a hammer tail and other things. It was quite remarkable, really.

For some reason, I thought this place was near Council Bluffs.

FAX

nychief
01-17-2006, 09:12 PM
He is my Saunders Theory

Saunders made over 1 million per year as Chiefs OC.

The teams that are looking for new HC's are not ones that are willing to shell out large coaching dollars.

Its all about money, just like in real life. I'm sure Al told Herm, Give me Gregg Williams type money and I'll be your OC.


what does mohillbilly say?

Bob Dole
01-17-2006, 09:14 PM
I am unfamiliar with those damned Gilmans, Mr. Bob Dole. However, I remember (as if in a dream) driving through Arkansas on a back road (two lane blacktop) and coming across a place that specialized in hand-blown, glass bluebirds of happiness. The place had thousands upon thousands of the little guys.

Plus, and even more strange to me, they had an extraordinary sculpture garden replete with mythical characters, gnomes riding turtles, ogres, a giant metal beast with a hammer tail and other things. It was quite remarkable, really.

For some reason, I thought this place was near Council Bluffs.

FAX

This website caters to family. Please keep your warped fantasies to yourself from now on.

(Council Bluffs, Arkansas?)

Hoover
01-17-2006, 09:16 PM
what does mohillbilly say?
How would I know?

nychief
01-17-2006, 09:20 PM
How would I know?

he is gregg williams father.

FAX
01-17-2006, 09:26 PM
This website caters to family. Please keep your warped fantasies to yourself from now on.

(Council Bluffs, Arkansas?)

Iowa, rather. My apologies.

Walking through the forested garden, Mr. Dole, I felt as though I was transported to a secret and forgotten netherworld of mystery and timeless illusion. It was as if reality itself had melted away leaving in its absence a marvelous and fantastic macrocosm in which I was free of all earthly bounds forever.

Very much like eating a really good cheesburger.

FAX

plbrdude
01-17-2006, 09:28 PM
i don't have a saunders theory. but if i had the oppurtunity to be the oc on a pontential contender, myself i would choose that over hc of team needing much more than a hc. but that's me.

FAX
01-17-2006, 10:02 PM
With amazement I traversed this strange and exotic world, Mr. Dole, my senses enlivened by my surroundings and to these sights and sounds so alien to my human perceptions.

Then, with almost impalpable sentience and only from the corner of my eye, I became aware of a tenuous movement through the emerald and amber colored trees. I turned and there, to my astonishment, appeared before me a gleaming apparition of such spectral beauty and grace that I felt my soul struggle vainly to free itself from my mortal being as if no living thing could be permitted to gaze upon so wonderful a form.

FAX

The Bad Guy
01-17-2006, 10:14 PM
i don't have a saunders theory. but if i had the oppurtunity to be the oc on a pontential contender, myself i would choose that over hc of team needing much more than a hc. but that's me.

See, Al might welcome the challenge. He has some tools to work with offensively - Jordan, Moss, Porter - and he might want that.

He has a Super Bowl ring already.

I would love for him to come back, but there's very few people in this NFL that would return to work for someone who passed them up twice for a promotion.

He's 59 years old. The opportunity to be a HC isn't going to be around in another 3-4 years.

It could be now for him.

If I was in his position, it would be stupid to turn down an HC job to be an OC for a guy who didn't think you were good enough to be a HC.

Halfcan
01-17-2006, 10:19 PM
IMO,

Saunders is staying.. and heres why.


Al , has spent a good amount of time in the leauge, He wants to get back to the superbowl, (I mean thats what its all about right...)

the Best Chance he has is Right here... Especially with Herm.

I think al Sees the D improving and Will be Electing to Stay here In KC


Slag, your either crazy as a fox or smart as one. I hope he stays.

Hoover
01-17-2006, 10:20 PM
See, Al might welcome the challenge. He has some tools to work with offensively - Jordan, Moss, Porter - and he might want that.

He has a Super Bowl ring already.

I would love for him to come back, but there's very few people in this NFL that would return to work for someone who passed them up twice for a promotion.

He's 59 years old. The opportunity to be a HC isn't going to be around in another 3-4 years.

It could be now for him.

If I was in his position, it would be stupid to turn down an HC job to be an OC for a guy who didn't think you were good enough to be a HC.
I agree with all of that, but if the teams that need a HC, are not going to pay him more than he was making in KC why go?

jspchief
01-17-2006, 10:21 PM
I don't think Saunders' outlook in the head coaching circle is very bright. Every team he's interviewed with has gone on to do more interviews. Sure, they may just want to cover all the bases. But if he was really making himself the guy a team wanted, they probably wouldn't let him get away.

Right now, I'd say Al isn't wowing them, and isn't anyone's first choice. Good news for us. Let's hope Ron Rivera and some of the other remaining candidates are better at selling themselves.

mlyonsd
01-17-2006, 10:28 PM
I've said before if Lamar was serious about winning the SB he'd be happy to let Saunders have the opportunity to be a HC somewhere else but also give him the same money Williams is getting in Washington.

Put up or shut up you old fart.

FAX
01-17-2006, 10:35 PM
No amount of manly vigilance or steadfastness or pride could have prepared me for this unknowable encounter, Mr. Dole, for I found myself in the presence of a being whose skin shown with the supernal radiance of stardust and whose golden hair fell like the sighs of a thousand angels awakened by God from a pleasant slumber.

How had I come upon this unbounded region? And who was this ethereal and resplendent being beckoning my breathless existence toward a now unforseeable end?

FAX

Iowanian
01-17-2006, 10:51 PM
Hoover.....get out of councilTucky and head over to the old town district.

keg in kc
01-17-2006, 10:52 PM
If I was in his position, it would be stupid to turn down an HC job to be an OC for a guy who didn't think you were good enough to be a HC.Speaking as neutrally as I can, I'm not sure I wouldn't take OC of the Chiefs over HC of the Raiders, which is the only job I've really heard him connected to.

FAX
01-17-2006, 11:09 PM
Then, Mr. Dole, like the echo of a lyrical bell ringing gently but clearly through an all but impassable barrier and originating from the beginning of time, she spoke. And this, Mr. Dole, she told me.

She spoke of a demented race of men who had violated the Great Rules handed down by the Creator of all. This race had taken refuge in hideous cliffs and in the shadow of cloudless peaks and was to be wrought a flaming and cosmic vengeance in order that they might answer for their loathsome and cursed defilements of the Creator's designs.

FAX

Hoover
01-17-2006, 11:10 PM
Hoover.....get out of councilTucky and head over to the old town district.
No shit. This place sucks ass. The only thing nice about my hotel it I wan walk two blocks to the Pro Bass Store, which is way too nice for couniciltucky

Baconeater
01-17-2006, 11:12 PM
Hoover.....get out of councilTucky and head over to the old town district.

Is that what us Omahanians call the Old Market?

Baconeater
01-17-2006, 11:13 PM
No shit. This place sucks ass. The only thing nice about my hotel it I wan walk two blocks to the Pro Bass Store, which is way too nice for couniciltucky

Or to the casino.

FAX
01-17-2006, 11:21 PM
She spoke, Mr. Dole, of acts so horrifying and despicable that they challenge the comprehension of mortal minds.

She told of gelatinous, rank, and amorphous compounds applied to their bodies. Of unbelievable, unthinkable, and unmentionable acts of violence against innocent persons' lower limbs and extremities. And of greed, and lies, and cheatings well beyond the radius of the human imagination.

FAX

Baconeater
01-17-2006, 11:26 PM
She spoke, Mr. Dole, of acts so horrifying and despicable that they challenge the comprehension of mortal minds.

She told of gelatinous, rank, and amorphous compounds applied to their bodies. Of unbelievable, unthinkable, and unmentionable acts of violence against innocent persons' lower limbs and extremities. And of greed, and lies, and cheatings well beyond the radius of the human imagination.

FAX

Yup, that's pretty much what goes on in Council Bluffs.

Dunit35
01-17-2006, 11:27 PM
That would be so sweet if Saunders decided to stay here. That would make my offseason, well almost...

JazzzLovr
01-17-2006, 11:31 PM
If you go to Old Town/Old Market, whatever it is called, eat at Omaha Prime. REALLY great steaks there.

savedin79
01-17-2006, 11:31 PM
My fingers are crossed.

FAX
01-17-2006, 11:36 PM
This, she said, is the race of Donkeys. Once men, their hellish, foul and boundless ambition had now cast their degraded souls forever into a spiraling black vortice and the ravenous abyss from which there is no hope for return.

Human no more, these grotesque and unhallowed creatures had forsaken all hope of redemption in their demoniac and insatiable desire for their own fiendish gain.

FAX

FAX
01-18-2006, 12:13 AM
You may be asking, Mr. Dole, what requittal this mysterious angel proffered as punishment for the hateful and hideous race of Donkeys. As well you should.

With a glint of golden starlight in her eye, she spoke of one who would soon arrive at the lair of the noxious demons and exact the Creator's final punishment for their heretical and insidious acts. He will be known as Saint Jerome, she said, and he will anoint them with their own tears and break their repellent spirits with a force greater than a thousand earthquakes.

In my admittedly confused and delirious state I had no choice but to strive with the bare limits of my comprehension to understand her intent as she described the relentless, interminable and pitiless means whereby Saint Jerome would send the race of Donkeys shrieking into an ululant and permanent state of madness.

FAX

KCChiefsFan88
01-18-2006, 12:25 AM
Here is how I hope the meeting went...

Herm: Hi Al, sorry I got the head coaching job over you.

Al: Yeah well...

Herm: I know you are more qualified to be the head coach of this team than I'am, but I guess 20+ years of slobbering over Carl's ass paid off.

Al: I guess so, how did you answer that question Carl asked in your interview about what you thought of his decision to keep Elvis Grbac over Gannon.

Herm: Oh I said it was a brilliant decision and that he picked the right guy.

Al: Figures

Herm: Anyways, here is the deal. I know nothing about how to field an aggressive, productive offense that can score 28-30 points a game. And even though I'm supposed to be a defensive genius, the fact I kept Gunther around means I'll need an offense here that can score 35 points a game (at least) to overcome all of Gunther's shortcomings. I'll put the offense in your hands entirely. It won't be like it was before where Dick was constantly looking over your shoulder, you can do whatever you want with the offense. It is your baby... you have complete freedom to do with it what you want.

ChiefsCountry
01-18-2006, 12:39 AM
Old Market in Omaha is pretty sweet place. I ate the place witht the railroad car, crap cant think of its name though.

beer bacon
01-18-2006, 12:41 AM
Here is how I hope the meeting went...

Herm: Hi Al, sorry I got the head coaching job over you.

Al: Yeah well...

Herm: I know you are more qualified to be the head coach of this team than I'am, but I guess 20+ years of slobbering over Carl's ass paid off.

Al: I guess so, how did you answer that question Carl asked in your interview about what you thought of his decision to keep Elvis Grbac over Gannon.

Herm: Oh I said it was a brilliant decision and that he picked the right guy.

Al: Figures

Herm: Anyways, here is the deal. I know nothing about how to field an aggressive, productive offense that can score 28-30 points a game. And even though I'm supposed to be a defensive genius, the fact I kept Gunther around means I'll need an offense here that can score 35 points a game (at least) to overcome all of Gunther's shortcomings. I'll put the offense in your hands entirely. It won't be like it was before where Dick was constantly looking over your shoulder, you can do whatever you want with the offense. It is your baby... you have complete freedom to do with it what you want.

After the 10th consecutive double reverse Herm will blow his brains out.

alanm
01-18-2006, 01:01 AM
Old Market in Omaha is pretty sweet place. I ate the place witht the railroad car, crap cant think of its name though.
Spaghetti Works.

tk13
01-18-2006, 01:20 AM
John Clayton on Sportscenter said that Al is still the favorite for the Raiders job, with Pat Hill 2nd. He said the Raiders are lagging behind though, and they need to get on it before they lose their candidates. I guess because Al could get into the mix for the Rams head coach job. Clayton didn't seem to think he was the favorite there, but if the Rams did hire him Oakland would be hung out to dry. Who knows. He also seemed to think Rod Marinelli could have a decent shot at being the Lions head coach.

DaneMcCloud
01-18-2006, 01:27 AM
There's no doubt that John Shaw's a freakin' idiot. Since AS was in STL when Vermeil won the SB, you'd think that if he was high on the list it would be a done deal by now.

I think with the all the openings in the NFL, the fact that AS hasn't been hired is very telling. Not telling because the owners/GM's are smart, but telling that AS doesn't have a future as a head coach. Which frankly is quite assinine, especially considering that Mike McCarthy and Sean Payton are now head coaches.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-18-2006, 01:42 AM
You may be asking, Mr. Dole, what requittal this mysterious angel proffered as punishment for the hateful and hideous race of Donkeys. As well you should.

With a glint of golden starlight in her eye, she spoke of one who would soon arrive at the lair of the noxious demons and exact the Creator's final punishment for their heretical and insidious acts. He will be known as Saint Jerome, she said, and he will anoint them with their own tears and break their repellent spirits with a force greater than a thousand earthquakes.

In my admittedly confused and delirious state I had no choice but to strive with the bare limits of my comprehension to understand her intent as she described the relentless, interminable and pitiless means whereby Saint Jerome would send the race of Donkeys shrieking into an ululant and permanent state of madness.

FAX




You either read some really weird shit, or should start writing some of your own.



Chiefman420

tomahawk kid
01-18-2006, 07:42 AM
Has anyone ever kept track of "Wrong-da's" batting average?

Has she been right on any of this ever? Sounds like more BS speculation from a sea cow too lazy to actually do her job.

Of course, I could be wrong.....about the rumor not the sea cow part.

Hoover
01-18-2006, 07:59 AM
John Clayton on Sportscenter said that Al is still the favorite for the Raiders job, with Pat Hill 2nd. He said the Raiders are lagging behind though, and they need to get on it before they lose their candidates. I guess because Al could get into the mix for the Rams head coach job. Clayton didn't seem to think he was the favorite there, but if the Rams did hire him Oakland would be hung out to dry. Who knows. He also seemed to think Rod Marinelli could have a decent shot at being the Lions head coach.
Its about $$$$

Pat Hill would be getting about 1 mil per year as a HC, and Saunders already makes that in KC. Unless there is a team that wants an offensive HC (which there are very few), and they are willing to pay Al at least 2 mil per, I think he returns for big OC bucks.

Al David isn't going to pay big bucks for a HC, he never has, thats why the only team out there that I can see Saunders going to is the Bills.

ptlyon
01-18-2006, 08:05 AM
Anyway, I'm stuck in the hell hole that is called Council Bluffs.....

You lucky b@$tard.

Council Tucky to all ya all.

Hoover
01-18-2006, 08:07 AM
You lucky b@$tard.

Council Tucky to all ya all.
I wish I still had my 1984 Olds 442, I'd reallyfit in around here!

htismaqe
01-18-2006, 08:10 AM
Al Saunders is 58 years old. It's NOT about the money.

My take is that he REALLY wants to be a HC, anywhere.

But nobody seems to want him.

Baconeater
01-18-2006, 08:12 AM
I wish I still had my 1984 Olds 442, I'd reallyfit in around here!

Only if it's missing at least one major body part and has no muffler.

Warrior5
01-18-2006, 08:14 AM
Has anyone ever kept track of "Wrong-da's" batting average? Has she been right on any of this ever?

Interesting analogy; I've been using the "swing-and-a-miss" perspective. She was up to strike 7 about 3 months ago...

Hoover
01-18-2006, 08:15 AM
Al Saunders is 58 years old. It's NOT about the money.

My take is that he REALLY wants to be a HC, anywhere.

But nobody seems to want him.
Its always about the money

Matt Helm
01-18-2006, 08:18 AM
Speaking as neutrally as I can, I'm not sure I wouldn't take OC of the Chiefs over HC of the Raiders, which is the only job I've really heard him connected to.

I have to speak with a bias here: Al should stay in KC because right now they are a contender and showing signs of improving over this season. The Raiders have no where to go but up, but how many years would you be able to dedicate to that? If you don't make a marked impact in 2 years you will be gone, if not sooner than 2 years. Al D is old and getting more senile as time goes by, I would guess he is more impatient as well. Besides, I don't think Al D has enough money in his pocket to make coaching the Raiders worthwhile for any respectable human being.

Just say no to Oakland.

Frankie
01-18-2006, 09:45 AM
There's no doubt that John Shaw's a freakin' idiot. Since AS was in STL when Vermeil won the SB, you'd think that if he was high on the list it would be a done deal by now.

I think with the all the openings in the NFL, the fact that AS hasn't been hired is very telling. Not telling because the owners/GM's are smart, but telling that AS doesn't have a future as a head coach. Which frankly is quite assinine, especially considering that Mike McCarthy and Sean Payton are now head coaches.
Agreed.

htismaqe
01-18-2006, 09:49 AM
Its always about the money

You honestly think Al would stay here for $3M a year over taking a HC gig at $2M a year?

Stop fooling yourself.

Pursuit of POWER is every bit the motivator that the pursuit of wealth is.

Brock
01-18-2006, 09:54 AM
You honestly think Al would stay here for $3M a year over taking a HC gig at $2M a year?

Stop fooling yourself.

Pursuit of POWER is every bit the motivator that the pursuit of wealth is.

Didn't he walk away from the Raiders job last time?

Inspector
01-18-2006, 09:55 AM
With amazement I traversed this strange and exotic world, Mr. Dole, my senses enlivened by my surroundings and to these sights and sounds so alien to my human perceptions.

Then, with almost impalpable sentience and only from the corner of my eye, I became aware of a tenuous movement through the emerald and amber colored trees. I turned and there, to my astonishment, appeared before me a gleaming apparition of such spectral beauty and grace that I felt my soul struggle vainly to free itself from my mortal being as if no living thing could be permitted to gaze upon so wonderful a form.

FAX

I quit doing acid many years ago.

Frankie
01-18-2006, 09:58 AM
I quit doing acid many years ago.
Nowadays he is throwing it.

htismaqe
01-18-2006, 10:00 AM
Didn't he walk away from the Raiders job last time?

IMO, he walked away last time because he thought he was going to be the Chiefs next HC.

Brock
01-18-2006, 10:06 AM
IMO, he walked away last time because he thought he was going to be the Chiefs next HC.

Perhaps, BUT: Being the highest paid coordinator in the NFL probably factored in there somewhere.

RedThat
01-18-2006, 10:09 AM
Al Saunders is 58 years old. It's NOT about the money.

My take is that he REALLY wants to be a HC, anywhere.

But nobody seems to want him.

The Raiders consider him their leading candidate.
:sulk:

htismaqe
01-18-2006, 10:10 AM
Perhaps, BUT: Being the highest paid coordinator in the NFL probably factored in there somewhere.

Being the highest paid coordinator in the NFL was good enough, when the carrot of being the Chiefs next HC was dangling in front of him.

Is it now? Somehow I doubt it.

htismaqe
01-18-2006, 10:11 AM
The Raiders consider him their leading candidate.
:sulk:

Yet they haven't apparently offered him a contract yet.

nychief
01-18-2006, 10:14 AM
The Raiders are going to hire Art Shell.

FringeNC
01-18-2006, 10:21 AM
Yet they haven't apparently offered him a contract yet.

Maybe they have, and they Davis low-balled him, and he could make more here being an OC. Then it might actually be a tough choice for him.

CoMoChief
01-18-2006, 10:30 AM
Al better come back. There just simply isnt a better OC in the NFL. Maybe if we keep him we let Trent Green audble this season. As of right now Green knows the offense better than anyone on the team. I dont understand why coaches would never let him do it. DV said Trent wasnt capable, and I say thats bullshit coming from an arrogant stubborn old man.

Brock
01-18-2006, 10:36 AM
DV said Trent wasnt capable, and I say thats bullshit coming from an arrogant stubborn old man.

Vermeil never said that.

RedThat
01-18-2006, 10:37 AM
I was watching NFL total access last night, and they usually have updated reports on coaching carousels around the league. Schfeter is usually creditable. Here is the latest updated information from what I got what Schefter was saying about teams looking for coaches:



-NY Jets: After announcing Eric Mangini as their head coach, it is unlikely they will retain their assistants. Didn't mention anything about them coming to KC, he just said it is unlikey the Jets will retain their assistant coaches. Those names are Henderson, Westhoff, and Heimerdinger.

-New Orleans Saints: Expected to name Sean Payton, cowboys OC, their head coach on Wednesday. Both have agreed in principle to a contract.

-St. Louis Rams: Their 3 candidates are Cam Cameron, Scott Linehan, and Ron Rivera. It appears Cam Cameron is making a strong impression over there.

-Buffalo Bills: 2 names, Dick Jauron and Mike Sherman. Dick Jauron has ties to the organization and knows Marv Levy and owner Ralph Wilson well.

-Detroit Lions: 2 names, Jim Haslett and Rod Marinelli

-Oakland Raiders: It appears as if Al Saunders is their leading candidate. Another name to keep in mind is Rod Marinelli, and he also said, don't be surprised if the Raiders pull out a wildcard and hire somebody nobody even mentioned. They have a tendency to do that A LOT. He thinks they will be the last team to hire a new head coach.

htismaqe
01-18-2006, 10:40 AM
Maybe they have, and they Davis low-balled him, and he could make more here being an OC. Then it might actually be a tough choice for him.

He may have.

I think Saunders is waiting to see if a better HC opportunity arises. He's not stupid, he knows Al Davis pretty well.

Matt Helm
01-18-2006, 11:09 AM
Raiders talking to Petrino, not Hill
By Bill Soliday, STAFF WRITER


The Raiders have their sights on a college coach, but it turns out it isn't and apparently never was Fresno State's Pat Hill.

Instead, according to an NFL source, Louisville coach Bobby Petrino was in Oakland to interview for the team's coaching vacancy Tuesday night. The Raiders declined to confirm the status of potential candidates beyond the three Al Saunders, James Lofton and Rod Marinelli they confirmed they had interviewed as of Monday. Meanwhile, according to sources inside the Raiders organization, Hill, whose name had been thrust into the spotlight as a potential Raiders hire, not only no longer figures in the team's plans but also was never even offered a formal interview. The 10-day window during which Hill said he would interview and listen to NFL offers ended Tuesday night. Hill said that if no offers were forthcoming by Tuesday night, he would shut the door on the pros and remain with the Bulldogs. He was scheduled to meet with Fresno State players at 7 a.m. today and follow that with a press conference at 10 a.m. in Fresno. He told the Fresno Bee he had been contacted by seven NFL teams but refused to identify them. According to reports, he interviewed in St. Louis and Houston and was contacted byNew Orleans. However, nothing firm ever came of the reported link to Oakland that had been the source of considerable conjecture. Hill is under contract through the 2007 season in Fresno. "I understand that giving a deadline limited some opportunities with some teams," Hill told the Bee. "Different teams have different time lines. If something doesn't happen (Tuesday night), I plan on being here a long time, building this program to where it should be." But while Hill was shutting the door on the NFL, Petrino was apparently interested enough to fly to the West Coast for talks with the Raiders. After coaching the Cardinals to a 21-4 record the past two years as well as putting the NCAA's highest scoring team on the field in 2004, Petrino engendered significant interest when it came to filling several college openings a year ago. Louisville reached the Gator Bowl this season despite the loss of star quarterback Brian Brohm in September. There, the Cardinals lost to Virginia Tech 35-24. Historically, the Raiders have had a preference for coaches with offensive backgrounds. After John Madden's retirement 27 years ago, every coach they have hired has been connected to the offense. Madden, a linebackers coach at the time he was hired in 1969, was the last defensive coach Al Davis selected as his head man. On another coaching front, there were reports that newly named New York Jets coach Eric Mangini was considering Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan for the post of defensive coordinator. Ryan is believed to have signed a two-year contract in Oakland in 2004. Barring an extension offer from the Raiders, Ryan would be free when his contract expires within the next few weeks.

Brock
01-18-2006, 11:17 AM
[ On another coaching front, there were reports that newly named New York Jets coach Eric Mangini was considering Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan for the post of defensive coordinator. Ryan is believed to have signed a two-year contract in Oakland in 2004. Barring an extension offer from the Raiders, Ryan would be free when his contract expires within the next few weeks.

I thought Mangini was supposed to be smart.

Matt Helm
01-18-2006, 11:22 AM
I thought Mangini was supposed to be smart.

Some things just cannot be explained.

FAX
01-18-2006, 11:22 AM
I must confess, Mr. Dole, that I was at once mortally repelled and strangly excited by the words uttered by the glorious spectre before me. And, with both growing horror and helpless fascination, I stood transfixed as she conveyed to me what I now describe, in turn, to you.

She told me that the race of Donkeys was led by the most foul, depraved and petulant of all demons beyond hell's confinement. This, my mortal consciousness could understand. But then she spoke the horrifying and nightmarish words that were the last my rational mind would ever hear. She said that the leader of the race of Donkeys - this leprous, vulgar, and verminous ghoul - was the spawn of the most abominable and malignant of profane acts - the blasphemous, unsanctified, and unthinkable joining of human and rodent! My soul quaked and my sanity failed as I slowly comprehended the exquisite, maddening, loathsome truth in her words. The shriekingly vile horror! The abhorrent and impenetrable blackness of this accursed knowledge! I prayed for death or deafness as she uttered the name of this shambling, noxious repugnance; Shanahan.

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milkman
01-18-2006, 11:33 AM
I thought Mangini was supposed to be smart.

Mangini and Ryan were both members of Bellichick's staff in NE, so the fact that Mangini is looking at him isn't really all that surprising.

Not smart, maybe, but not surprising either.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2006, 11:42 AM
Al Saunders is 58 years old. It's NOT about the money.

My take is that he REALLY wants to be a HC, anywhere.

But nobody seems to want him.

i agree ... but i also think Saunders wants enough money as a HC to not be embarrassing (ie Gunther,Tice)


word gets out if the HC is making assistant money and they aren't taken very seriously.


Saunders will take a lower HC salary ... but i think he expects it to be in the HC range.


1+ million per year is prolly enough ... nowadays they make 2/3 per.

bogie
01-18-2006, 11:47 AM
I must confess, Mr. Dole, that I was at once mortally repelled and strangly excited by the words uttered by the glorious spectre before me. And, with both growing horror and helpless fascination, I stood transfixed as she conveyed to me what I now describe, in turn, to you.

She told me that the race of Donkeys was led by the most foul, depraved and petulant of all demons beyond hell's confinement. This, my mortal consciousness could understand. But then she spoke the horrifying and nightmarish words that were the last my rational mind would ever hear. She said that the leader of the race of Donkeys - this leprous, vulgar, and verminous ghoul - was the spawn of the most abominable and malignant of profane acts - the blasphemous, unsanctified, and unthinkable joining of human and rodent! My soul quaked and my sanity failed as I slowly comprehended the exquisite, maddening, loathsome truth in her words. The shriekingly vile horror! The abhorrent and impenetrable blackness of this accursed knowledge! I prayed for death or deafness as she uttered the name of this shambling, noxious repugnance; Shanahan.

Oh the horror!!

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FAX
01-18-2006, 11:49 AM
I beg you not to edit my work, you vile, abominable, shambling, noxious repugnance.

Only a Denver girl would do something like that.

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