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Eye Patch
01-20-2006, 10:29 AM
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110007835

Thoughts on the decline of the liberal media monopoly and the future of the GOP.

Friday, January 20, 2006 12:01 a.m. EST
I don't think Democrats understand that the Alito hearings were, for them, not a defeat but an actual disaster. The snarly tone the senators took with a man most Americans could look at and think, "He's like me," and the charges they made--You oppose women and minorities, you only like corporations and not the little guy--went nowhere. Once those charges would have taken flight, would have launched, found their target and knocked down any incoming Republican. Not any more. It's over.

Eleven years ago the Democrats lost control of Congress. Then they lost the presidency. But just as important, maybe more enduringly important, they lost their monopoly on the means of information in America. They lost control of the pipeline. Or rather there are now many pipelines, and many ways to use the information they carry. The other day, Dana Milbank, an important reporter for the Washington Post, the most important newspaper in the capital, wrote a piece deriding Judge Alito. Once such a piece would have been important. Men in the White House would have fretted over its implications. But within hours of filing, Mr. Milbank found his thinking analyzed and dismissed on the Internet; National Review Online called him a "policy bimbo."

Could Democratic senators today torture Clarence Thomas with tales of Coke cans and porn films? Not likely. Could Ted Kennedy have gotten away with his "Robert Bork's America" speech unanswered? No.
And the end of the monopoly of course isn't only in the news, it's in all media. The other night George Clooney, that beautiful airhead, made a Golden Globe speech in which he made an off-color reference to Jack Abramoff. The audience seemed confused, as people apparently often are when George Clooney speaks. Once, his remark would have been news. Once, Marlon Brando stopped the country in its tracks when he sent Sacheen Littlefeather to make his speech at the Academy Awards. Once, Vanessa Redgrave did the same when she gave a speech about Palestinians, receiving in turn a rebuke from Frank Sinatra, who didn't want some British broad telling us how to do our thing. Now, actors make their comments and it's just another airhead involved in an oral helium release. "You don't like it, change the channel," network executives used to say. But that, as they knew, meant nothing: There were only three channels. Now there are 500. And more coming.

You know who else experienced, up close and personal, the end of the information monopoly this week? Walter Cronkite. Once, he said America should leave Vietnam and the president of the United States said if we've lost him we've lost middle America. Now, Walter calls for withdrawal from Iraq and it occasions only one thing: stories about how once such a thing mattered. I saw Mr. Cronkite the other night. Frail, distinguished--big white eyebrows; soft, folded pink face--he looked like Dean Acheson grown very old. It was at a New York screening he hosted for a documentary called "Why We Fight," a piece of antiwar propaganda that will likely soon be followed by a piece of pro-war propaganda. It was like ducking a Propaganda Punch that will be answered by another Propaganda Punch you'll have to duck. Featured in the documentary is a former voice of God, Dan Rather, there to lend support to the enterprise.

What was sad about the documentary is that it did not explore what it asserted, that a military-industrial complex within the United States has more power and influence than is helpful or good. A lot of sophisticated Americans worry about this. "The military-industrial complex" is something we were warned of almost half a century ago by Dwight Eisenhower, a man who knew a few things about war and weaponry. We want our makers of weapons to be the best in the world; we do not want them to own congressmen who have an electoral stake in the pieces of weapons made in their districts. When every congressman has a piece of a project, we should worry. War should not be the health of the state.

We are in a time when the very diminution of the importance of network news leaves some old news hands to drop their guard and announce what they are: liberal Democrats. Nothing wrong with that, but they might have told us when they were in power. The very existence of conservative media--of Rush Limbaugh, of Fox, of the Internet sites--has become an excuse by previously "I call 'em as I see 'em/I try to be impartial" journalists to advance their biases. Actually, it's more Fox than anything. The existence of a respected cable network that is nonliberal and non-Democratic (or that is conservative, or Republican, or neoconservative--people on the right have polite disagreements about this) is more and more freeing news outlets, encouraging them actually, as a potential business model, to be more and more what they are. Is this good? Well, it's clearer. Then again Time magazine this week illustrated a story about Republicans in Congress with a drawing of a merry circus elephant surrounded by the Republican leadership. They were covered, I'm not kidding, in the elephant's fecal matter. (It's on page 23. Time will no doubt call it chocolate.)

But where does this leave us? With our mass media busy with reluctant reformation . . . with the old network monopoly over and done . . . with something new, we know not what, about to take its place . . . with the Democratic Party adjusting to the loss of its megaphone . . . Where does that leave us? I think it leaves us knowing that, more than ever, the Republican Party--the party ultimately helped by the end of the old monopoly and the reformation of news media--must be a good party, a decent one, and help our country.

That it regain a sense of its historic mission. That it stop seeming the friend of the wired and return to being the great friend of Main Street, for Main Street still, in its own way, exists. That it return to basic principles on spending, regulation and state authority. That it question a foreign policy that often seems at once dreamy and aggressive, and question, too, an overreaching on immigration policy that seems composed in equal parts of naiveté and cynicism. That its representatives admit that lunching with lobbyists is not the problem; failing to oppose the growth of government--so huge that no one, really no one, knows what is in its budget--is. That they reduce the size and power of government. That they help our country.

Is that a sissy thing to say? Sorry. But today is the 25th anniversary of the coming to Washington of modern conservatism, and the rise to power of a Main Street romantic who was also a skeptic and an appreciator of human nature. Not a bad time to take stock.
Republicans in Washington struggle with scandal and speak of reform, and reformation. They would better think of words like regain, refresh, rebuild. If they don't, if Republicans don't choose to lead well, and seriously, and with principle, they should ask themselves: Who will? Seriously: Who will?

Ms. Noonan is a contributing editor of The Wall Street Journal and author of "John Paul the Great: Remembering a Spiritual Father," (Penguin, 2005), which you can order from the OpinionJournal bookstore. Her column appears Thursdays.

jAZ
01-20-2006, 10:49 AM
"The Rise of the Corporate Owned, Republican-Dependent Media"

Laz
01-20-2006, 11:24 AM
There never was a liberal media monopoly so how could it be lost?

recxjake
01-20-2006, 11:27 AM
There never was a liberal media monopoly so how could it be lost?


hahah right....

Baby Lee
01-20-2006, 11:33 AM
There never was a liberal media monopoly so how could it be lost?
I agree that there was never a set-in-stone block on balanced voices, but there most definately was an institutionalized liberal tilt.
Goes like this.
Journalists were taught in the course of their education that journalism can be a tool to highlight the human condition and by highlighting it, make a difference for good. While in the abstract that is a non-partisan precept, in practice it led to journalists being driven to push for change through their reporting. Reporting that people are satisfied and comfortable is not compelling. Reporting that people are oppressed or marginalized is. Reporting that troops are keeping the peace and schools and infrastructure are being built isn't compelling. Reporting that this or that soldier is miserable or disallusioned is.
It's a small jump from reporting 'injustice' to advocating solutions, and the solutions are inherently progressive.
And the problem arose when a handful of journalists cultivated a presumption of impartiality, then shifted to a position of advocacy, relying on the people to continue to have faith in their cultivation of said presumption.

Brock
01-20-2006, 11:38 AM
I'd have to agree the Alito hearings put the dems in a bad, bad light.

Adept Havelock
01-20-2006, 11:39 AM
If there is a concern over bias, then how do you all feel about restoring the FCC's fairness doctrine, struck down in the 80's by the Reagan Admin.?

memyselfI
01-20-2006, 11:39 AM
"The Rise of the Corporate Owned, Republican-Dependent Media"

Correction, not media but public relations organizations.

Baby Lee
01-20-2006, 11:47 AM
If there is a concern over bias, then how do you all feel about restoring the FCC's fairness doctrine, struck down in the 80's by the Reagan Admin.?
Because my solution is awareness of the dynamics, not government oversight.
The blogosphere is doing a fine job.

Lurch
01-20-2006, 11:58 AM
Correction, not media but public relations organizations.

You mean, public relations organizations like Moveon.org, DU, and other special interest groups like the ones who gave talking points to Democratic Senators on the Judiciary committee that backfired and gave Alito the upper hand in his confirmation battle? Are those the kind of public relations organizations you are talking about?

Eye Patch
01-20-2006, 12:04 PM
There never was a liberal media monopoly so how could it be lost?

talk to Peggy... a well known liberal.... who states the obvious but somehow you never saw it.

count up the number of newspapers, entertainment TV shows, talking head shows, movies, and just general news reporting... and it becomes apparent you have not been paying attention.

Throw in colleges and it's not even close.

The only things the conservaties have a monopoly on is the radio and who has time to listen to that.

oldandslow
01-20-2006, 12:24 PM
Peggy Noonan is a well known LIBERAL????

Since when is a speech writer for Ronald Reagan a liberal?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Eye Patch
01-20-2006, 12:32 PM
Peggy Noonan is a well known LIBERAL????

Since when is a speech writer for Ronald Reagan a liberal?

Inquiring minds want to know.

oppsss you are right.... I got her confused with the lady who writes the opinion on the NYT who's name escapes me now.

Thanks for the correction.

Lurch
01-20-2006, 12:34 PM
Peggy Noonan is a well known LIBERAL????

Since when is a speech writer for Ronald Reagan a liberal?

Inquiring minds want to know.

He's confusing her with the blonde liberal chick who wrote for Carter or Clinton....

Brock
01-20-2006, 12:34 PM
oppsss you are right.... I got her confused with the lady who writes the opinion on the NYT who's name escapes me now.

Thanks for the correction.

Probably Maureen Dowd.

oldandslow
01-20-2006, 12:35 PM
I bet you are thinking of Maureen Dowd.

Lurch
01-20-2006, 12:35 PM
oppsss you are right.... I got her confused with the lady who writes the opinion on the NYT who's name escapes me now.

Thanks for the correction.

Dowd never wrote speeches for anyone though, did she? God forbid...

I'm thinking Susan Estrich....the law prof from USC

BIG_DADDY
01-20-2006, 12:37 PM
"The Rise of the Corporate Owned, Republican-Dependent Media" ROFL

The Dems could take over easily if they would just come off a few issues but their just too ****ing stupid to do that. The alternative has been to turn into a bunch whiney ass bitches.

BIG_DADDY
01-20-2006, 12:37 PM
Correction, not media but public relations organizations.

And Islamic whores like this do nothing but make people run from the party.

Brock
01-20-2006, 12:37 PM
I'm thinking Susan Estrich....the law prof from USC

Thinking about that can't be good for you.

Lurch
01-20-2006, 12:41 PM
Thinking about that can't be good for you.

Heh. Actually, in her younger days she would have been doable...after 3-4 drinks in Georgetown, in a dimly lit studio apartment. Age has definitely not been kind to her; even less kind than cigarettes have been to her throat.

Eye Patch
01-20-2006, 12:45 PM
Probably Maureen Dowd.

yup... that's it. thanks

patteeu
01-20-2006, 01:30 PM
If there is a concern over bias, then how do you all feel about restoring the FCC's fairness doctrine, struck down in the 80's by the Reagan Admin.?

The last thing we need when it comes to free-speech, aside from outright censorship of dissident views, is government-enforced "fairness."

People should be free to be biased in their speech and other people should be free to criticize them for it.

BIG_DADDY
01-20-2006, 02:15 PM
The last thing we need when it comes to free-speech, aside from outright censorship of dissident views, is government-enforced "fairness."

People should be free to be biased in their speech and other people should be free to criticize them for it.

Amen brother. :clap:

Pitt Gorilla
01-20-2006, 02:25 PM
ROFL

but their just too ****ing stupid.Sorry, BD, but the irony of this post is just too funny.

BIG_DADDY
01-20-2006, 08:45 PM
Sorry, BD, but the irony of this post is just too funny.

Maybe I am stupid in your eyes as I have never been able to figure out what your issue is with me.

Back to the issue. Don't raise taxes, leave our guns alone and don't legalize discrimination against the majority and I say that's a ticket to power but what do I know I'm stupid.

banyon
01-20-2006, 10:17 PM
Yeah, I think it's pretty clear where media interests now lie.

http://www.corporations.org/media/media-ownership.gif

http://www.corporations.org/media/media-ownership.gif

Lurch
01-20-2006, 10:22 PM
Yeah, I think it's pretty clear where media interest now lie.

http://www.corporations.org/media/media-ownership.gif

http://www.corporations.org/media/media-ownership.gif

Corporate "interests" may play a role, but so does the personal biases of journalists which is overwhelmingly leftist, philosophically. The market and ratings also drive the sensationalized nature of investigative and over-hyped stories. Talk radio and cable have lessened the pronounced left wing bias of 30 years ago, but the mainstream media can hardly be described as conservative.

banyon
01-20-2006, 10:32 PM
Corporate "interests" may play a role, but so does the personal biases of journalists which is overwhelmingly leftist, philosophically. The market and ratings also drive the sensationalized nature of investigative and over-hyped stories. Talk radio and cable have lessened the pronounced left wing bias of 30 years ago, but the mainstream media can hardly be described as conservative.

Lurch, I like that you say what you think, but, it is strange that you don't find that graphic disturbing. You should, it's at the heart of American political discourse. At this rate, we'll have the Pravda in 3 years.

Lurch
01-20-2006, 10:41 PM
Lurch, I like that you say what you think, but, it is strange that you don't find that graphic disturbing. You should, it's at the heart of American political discourse. At this rate, we'll have the Pravda in 3 years.

I didn't say it's not disturbing, but it's certainly not evidence of a corporate-right wing bias either.

banyon
01-20-2006, 10:57 PM
I didn't say it's not disturbing, but it's certainly not evidence of a corporate-right wing bias either.

Do you think the corporations intentionally or negiligently employ reporters and journalists who will create stories adverse to their own interests in short-term profit maximization?

Lurch
01-20-2006, 11:01 PM
Do you think the corporations intentionally or negiligently employ reporters and journalist who will create stories adverse to their own interests in short-term profit maximization?

No, but they don't aggressively curb activities of those folks either, except in extreme circumstances. Corporations are driven by whatever makes them money: whatever increases their ratings, and sells newspapers/magazines.

Pitt Gorilla
01-20-2006, 11:16 PM
Maybe I am stupid in your eyes as I have never been able to figure out what your issue is with me.

Back to the issue. Don't raise taxes, leave our guns alone and don't legalize discrimination against the majority and I say that's a ticket to power but what do I know I'm stupid.
BD, you are certainly not "stupid" in my eyes. I'm just not sure I would call someone else's intelligence into question through the use of incorrect words.

banyon
01-20-2006, 11:47 PM
No, but they don't aggressively curb activities of those folks either, except in extreme circumstances. Corporations are driven by whatever makes them money: whatever increases their ratings, and sells newspapers/magazines.


based on what?

Many news-worthy stories that might otherwise sell papers are squelched out of fear. Take the present NSA spying story. Do you think that they couldn't have sold papers in the fall of 2004 with that story? But instead, the "liberal" NY Times held that stoy for a year out of deference to the administration.

How about the leading economic indicators? Do you hear a lot of discussion about how middle-class wages are shrinking and that creditors have a greater advantage over debtors in this country than ever before? No, CNN, the NY Times, Newsweek, prattle on about the greatness of the Stock Market. I actually heard a story on Fox yesterday about how the Stock Market was "too strong" to crash.

Fox River
01-21-2006, 12:30 AM
A good friend of mine attended a State University that is one of the larger and major schools in the nation. To complete his studies he went to their Journalism Program. When he did not ask about the reason that people were going into that field it may come up in conversation and that reason was not to report facts or relay information. The number one answer that was given was to change the world. To change the world.

StcChief
01-21-2006, 06:53 AM
No, but they don't aggressively curb activities of those folks either, except in extreme circumstances. Corporations are driven by whatever makes them money: whatever increases their ratings, and sells newspapers/magazines.

Hence why you never hear or see non-confrontational news. It doesn't sell. Boring good things don't sell.

If you don't have a story make one up.

NewPhin
01-21-2006, 12:21 PM
A good friend of mine attended a State University that is one of the larger and major schools in the nation. To complete his studies he went to their Journalism Program. When he did not ask about the reason that people were going into that field it may come up in conversation and that reason was not to report facts or relay information. The number one answer that was given was to change the world. To change the world.

I don't see a problem with that, in all honesty. I would hope that we're all trying to change the world in our lives and jobs to make it a better place. Of course, the problem is that what constitutes "a better place" is usually tied into our worldview, consisting of our political, moral, and religious ideology.

Objective reporting, from either side of the aisle, is a myth. The key is that the public now realizes this, and a self-regulating system of checks and balances through the internet and blogosphere has sprung up to meet the public's desire to see the issue from both sides. The internet is taking the power away from the big monolithic media conglomerates and providing a diversificiation of voice and viewpoint which is, in my opinion, one of its greatest contributions to society.

patteeu
01-21-2006, 02:41 PM
I don't see a problem with that, in all honesty. I would hope that we're all trying to change the world in our lives and jobs to make it a better place. Of course, the problem is that what constitutes "a better place" is usually tied into our worldview, consisting of our political, moral, and religious ideology.

Objective reporting, from either side of the aisle, is a myth. The key is that the public now realizes this, and a self-regulating system of checks and balances through the internet and blogosphere has sprung up to meet the public's desire to see the issue from both sides. The internet is taking the power away from the big monolithic media conglomerates and providing a diversificiation of voice and viewpoint which is, in my opinion, one of its greatest contributions to society.

Hear hear!

the Talking Can
01-22-2006, 07:53 AM
here's more evidence of the vast liberal media conspiracy, coming of course, after the NYTimes had to apologize in print for publishing the White House's fake intel stories without fact checking them...gosh, facts suck...don't they:

All told, on January 22, 1998, the Times and the Post ran 19 articles (five on the front page) dealing with the Clinton investigation [Monica], totaling more than 20,000 words and reflecting the words of at least 28 reporters -- plus the editorial boards of both newspapers.

In contrast, on December 17, the Times and the Post combined to run five articles about the NSA spying operation, involving 12 reporters and consisting of 6,303 words.

On February 25, 1998, 35 days after the story first broke, the Post ran four articles and an editorial about the Clinton investigation, totaling 5,046 words, involving 11 reporters, and the paper's editorial board. The Times ran four articles, two opinion columns, and an editorial -- seven pieces in all, totaling 5,852 words and involving at least six reporters and columnists, in addition to its editorial board. The papers combined for 12 articles, columns, and editorials, involving 17 reporters and columnists, as well as both editorial boards.

On January 20, 35 days after the NSA story first broke, the Times ran one 1,324-word article about the NSA operation written by two reporters. The Post ran one 945-word article written by one reporter. Combined: two articles, three reporters, 2,269 words.

link (http://mediamatters.org/items/200601210001#1)