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recxjake
01-20-2006, 05:13 PM
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
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Friday, Jan. 20, 2006 2:43 p.m. EST
Karl Rove Says Democrats 'Wrong' on War on Terror


Embattled White House adviser Karl Rove vowed Friday to make the war on terrorism a central campaign issue in November and said Democratic senators looked "mean-spirited and small-minded" in questioning Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito.

"Republicans have a post-9/11 worldview - and many Democrats have a pre-9/11 worldview," Rove told Republican activists. "That doesn't make them unpatriotic, not at all. But it does make them wrong - deeply and profoundly and consistently wrong."

President Bush's top political lieutenant, making a rare public address while under investigation in the CIA leak case, joined Republican Party chairman Ken Mehlman in warning GOP leaders against falling prey to the corrupting nature of power.

"The GOP's progress during the last four decades is a stunning political achievement. But it is also a cautionary tale of what happens to a dominant party - in this case, the Democrat Party - when its thinking becomes ossified; when its energy begins to drain; when an entitlement mentality takes over; and when political power becomes an end in itself rather than a mean to achieve the common goal," Rove told Republican National Committee members ending a two-day meeting.

"We need to learn from our successes," he said, "and from the failures of others."

The admonition reflects growing concerns among senior Republicans that ethics scandals in the Republican-led Congress could hurt the party in November, even among staunch GOP voters who may begin to blame corruption for Congress' runaway spending habits.

Mehlman couldn't have been more blunt: "One of the oldest lessons of history is that power corrupts," he said, telling RNC members that any Republicans guilty of illegal behavior should be punished.

The investigation of lobbyist Jack Abramoff threatens to ensnare at least a half dozen members of Congress of both parties and Bush administration officials. His ties to GOP congressional leaders and the White House pose a particular problem for Republicans.

Abramoff, who has admitted to conspiring to defraud his Indian tribe clients, has pleaded guilty to corruption-related charges and is cooperating with prosecutors.

In an unrelated scandal, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, is expected to stand trial in the CIA leak case this summer, just ahead of the midterm elections.

The special prosecutor's inquiry still still under way, leaving the fate of other senior White House officials, notably Rove, in doubt.

Bush's political guru opened his remarks with a joking reference to the unwanted attention the case has brought him. "Anybody want to get their picture in the paper? Come on up here," he said.

In 2002, Rove caused a stir among Democrats when he told RNC members to make the war on terrorism an issue in the midterm elections. "We can go to the country on this issue because they trust the Republican Party to do a better job of protecting and strengthening America's military might and thereby protecting America," he said at the time.

Rove made the same case Friday, though his words were a bit more measured. Reading from a prepared text, the deputy White House chief of staff began with a call for election-year civility - "Our opponents are our fellow citizens, not our enemies" - and quickly turned to portraying Democrats as weak on defense.

"The United States faces a ruthless enemy - and we need a commander-in-chief and a Congress who understand the nature of the threat and the gravity that American finds itself in," Rove said. "President Bush and the Republican Party do. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for many Democrats."

He said some Democrats want to abandon Iraq too soon, which would cause enemies to "laugh at our failed resolve." Rove added: "To retreat before victory would be a reckless act - and this president and our party will not allow it. This is worthy of a public debate."

He also criticized Democrats for opposing the USA Patriot Act and warrantless eavesdropping, before turning to Alito, newly minted Chief Justice John Roberts and their Democratic opponents on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

"Every effort to smear the name of these good men blew up in the face of those making the malicious charges. Some committee members came across as mean-spirited and small-minded - and it left a searing impression," Rove said. He specifically accused Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., of creating "an ugly display" during Alito's hearing.

Before the RNC members returned to their home states, they approved an immigration resolution supported by the White House. A competing measure backed by hard-line conservatives opposed to Bush's guest worker program was withdrawn under pressure from White House allies.

© 2006 Associated Press.

|Zach|
01-20-2006, 05:24 PM
Heh, yet another newsmax "piece of news"

recxjake
01-20-2006, 05:42 PM
Heh, yet another newsmax "piece of news"

what you fail to understand is this is an AP piece that newsmax puts on its website.... nice try though

penchief
01-20-2006, 05:53 PM
Karl Rove, that's a dude I'd want to take to heart.

Good luck with that, Johann Winkler.

recxjake
01-20-2006, 05:57 PM
Karl Rove, that's a dude I'd want to take to heart.

Good luck with that, Johann Winkler.

ahh you might want to take what he says to heart..... he's personally won two presidential elections in a row for george, the CIA leak case is a joke.... if i was a democrat i would listen

Dave Lane
01-20-2006, 06:10 PM
ahh you might want to take what he says to heart..... he's personally won two presidential elections in a row for george, the CIA leak case is a joke.... if i was a democrat i would listen

To what? My farts have a higher IQ than Karl Rove for christs sake.

Dave

Nightwish
01-20-2006, 07:18 PM
"Republicans have a post-9/11 worldview - and many Democrats have a pre-9/11 worldview," Rove told Republican activists.
I would disagree with that. Both parties have a post-9/11 worldview. The difference is that both parties disagree how the problem of terrorism should be handled, and the Democrats aren't quite as inclined to exploit 9/11 at every opportunity for political gain. They are inclined to do so on occasion, but the Republicans are inclined to do so far more often.

"We need to learn from our successes," he said, "and from the failures of others."
Actually, both parties think like this. And it is one of the most profound failures on both their parts. You're asking for trouble when you believe you have to learn from your successes and others' failures, but not consider your failures and others' successes to be equally important teaching tools.

banyon
01-20-2006, 09:59 PM
Well... gee Karl Rove says the Democrats are wrong? I guess there's no possible answer to that argument. I'll just have to take my ball and go home.

http://jeremyfreese.blogspot.com/peanuts_football2.jpg

John Matrix
01-20-2006, 10:10 PM
Karl Rove is the Denver Broncos of politics.

Yes he's been successful, but he's a dirty sonofabitch who cheats and lies to win.

Look at the rumors he started about McCain's wife and child during the 2000 primary, for Christ sakes.

Adept Havelock
01-21-2006, 10:09 AM
Karl Rove is the Denver Broncos of politics.

Yes he's been successful, but he's a dirty sonofabitch who cheats and lies to win.

Look at the rumors he started about McCain's wife and child during the 2000 primary, for Christ sakes.

Yeah, I lost some respect for McCain when he started cozying up to the admin. after the mud they flung at him during the primaries. I guess when it comes to race-baiting IOKIYAR.

mlyonsd
01-21-2006, 10:36 AM
Yeah, I lost some respect for McCain when he started cozying up to the admin. after the mud they flung at him during the primaries. I guess when it comes to race-baiting IOKIYAR.

McCain happens to share Bush's views on the WoT, Iraq, and most other foreign policies.

He is quick to point out the issues he doesn't agree with...domestic monetary, torturing prisoners, etc.

I suppose what you call "cozying" could also be considered as being a "realist" to some and wanting to get things done.

The American people will vote for someone they think is a leader before they'll vote for someone they think is a partisan. The dems could be in trouble if McCain gets the nomination. And right now I don't see anyone that can take it from him.

Anyone that thinks the Republican party's RWNJ's will dictate the candidate is mistaken IMO.

Adept Havelock
01-21-2006, 11:09 AM
Anyone that thinks the Republican party's RWNJ's will dictate the candidate is mistaken IMO.


No possibility of a repeat of the 2000 Primaries when the RWNJ's derailed McCain in favor of Bush, eh? :hmmm:

As for McCain being a "realist", possibly. He always has struck me as a pragmatist. Different attitudes I guess. I wouldn't give the time of day to any SOB whose campaign dragged my family through the mud like that, but that's just me.

mlyonsd
01-21-2006, 11:19 AM
No possibility of a repeat of the 2000 Primaries when the RWNJ's derailed McCain in favor of Bush, eh? :hmmm:

No, I don't say there isn't a chance of that type of attack.

But, McCain must be considered a more formidable foe this time around. Since the 2000 election he has become a media darling of some sorts seeing that his opinions are asked by them on almost every issue. I would guess if you were to go back and count the number of Republicans outside the Bush administration that have been on shows like Meet the Press or Face the Nation, McCain would be at the top of the list.

He's become a household name and his mild moderate temperment are highlighted quite often.

Of course for me to believe that is only possible because I don't think the party will be controlled by RWNJ's in 2008. IMO there are only 2 Republicans I see that could wrestle the nomination away from McCain. Guilani and Powell.

Braincase
01-21-2006, 12:16 PM
I like how he thinks it's OK to learn from the mistakes of others... yet is incapable of learning from his own.

banyon
01-21-2006, 02:03 PM
Have you guys seen McCain lately? In two more years, I don't know if he'll be healthy enough to run. He's very likeable, but he looks bad. Born 8/29/36, so he'd be 71 when his term started, which would make him the oldest president to start a term. I don't wish him ill, God knows he'd be preferable to most of the other GOP wannabees (President Brownback, anyone? ugh) But the age/health thing doesn't sound so good.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/WCAP10201172125.jpeg

BTW, he should make sure that he is in as few pictures with Rick Santorum as possible.

Bowser
01-21-2006, 04:18 PM
Rove is a wart on the ass of dirty politics.

Cochise
01-21-2006, 07:06 PM
rec,

Have you seen that Honda commerical where the guy throws that big fish into the woods and the grizzly bear goes chasing after it? That's what happens when you type "Rove" over here. Once he is mentioned the thread is doomed. I know the story is about Rove here, but just for future reference...

Same with newsmax. If it really is an AP story, then search up the AP's article and post it. If the source is newsmax, you won't get anywhere. Newsmax is like the white object being shown to Little Albert over here...