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jAZ
01-22-2006, 01:11 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060122/ap_on_go_co/us_mccain_oil

McCain: U.S. Can't Be Held Hostage for Oil

WASHINGTON - A top Republican lawmaker said Sunday that America must explore alternate energy sources to avoid being held hostage by Iran or by "wackos" in Venezuela an apparent reference to Hugo Chavez, Venezuela's populist president.

Sen. John McCain, a potential presidential contender in 2008, said recent action by "Mr. Chavez" and by Iran's leaders make it clear that the United States will be vulnerable as long as it remains dependent on foreign energy.

"We've got to get quickly on a track to energy independence from foreign oil, and that means, among other things, going back to nuclear power," McCain said on Fox News Sunday.

"We better understand the vulnerabilities that our economy, and our very lives, have when we're dependent on Iranian mullahs and wackos in Venezuela," said McCain, who challenged President George W. Bush for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000.

Iran is OPEC's second-largest producer. Venezuela is the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, with the largest proven oil reserves outside of the Mideast.

Chavez, a frequent U.S. critic, accuses foreign oil companies of having looted Venezuela. He has promised that his socialist "revolution" is freeing the country from "imperialist" interests and restoring its sovereignty.

patteeu
01-22-2006, 01:37 PM
Homer. ;)

jAZ
01-22-2006, 02:01 PM
Homer. ;)
It would be tough for me to vote against McCain in 2008.

Loki
01-22-2006, 02:13 PM
It would be tough for me to vote against McCain in 2008.

even if your girl hillary was a contender?

Fox River
01-22-2006, 02:20 PM
I completely and totally agree. He should have doubled what the Bush Family was paying Rove and lured him over to his side. Rove would have made twice the money and had less than half of the work making Bush look bad. I do not think that the Republican Party Control Panel likes him though.

penchief
01-22-2006, 03:44 PM
Agreed 150,000 percent.

I might have been able to sleep at night for the past five years.

jAZ
01-22-2006, 03:52 PM
even if your girl hillary was a contender?
The only thing I think that would keep me from voting McCain over Hillary (who's not my choice from within the Dem Party either, despite your assumptions)... would be a GOP controlled Congress.

The one thing that's proven more important than the issues of a particular candidate is the need to keep absolute power from any political institution.

While McCain would have been 1000x better than Bush over the last 5+ years, he's still not a sufficient balance to the radicalization of the GOP in congress.

The same, IMO holds if the Dems control congress and the WH. It's time to vote Republican at that point.

Fox River
01-22-2006, 05:10 PM
Gridlock is good. It turned Clinton into a an average POTUS. Maybe it will save GWB.

HolyHandgernade
01-22-2006, 05:18 PM
The last time I voted for a Republican presidential candidate was for McCain in the California primary. Oh how long to see the Republicans come back to the center, but I don't think the right wing of the party will allow it to happen. I'm afraid only a good butt-kickin' by a Democratic candidate will do it, but I don't know that the Dems have such a candidate yet. I feel like a political buzzard, can't kill nothin' and nothin's died!

-HH

recxjake
01-22-2006, 09:46 PM
The country is tilting to the left.... so is the Republican party... I didn't think McCain was going to get the nomination 6 months ago, but at the end hardline Repubs would rather have a POTUS with a (R) by his name then Hillary.... McCain would win if elected.... i think his VP choice will be Arkansas governor Huckabee or Mass governor Romney

I know I've stated my dislike for McCain in the past, but after listening to him recently I am starting to like him a little bit.... Anyone but Hillary

Pitt Gorilla
01-22-2006, 10:16 PM
I know I've stated my dislike for McCain in the past, but after listening to him recently I am starting to like him a little bit.... Anyone but HillaryFlip, flop, flip, flop...

jAZ
01-22-2006, 10:33 PM
Flip, flop, flip, flop...
Like a plastic bag on a windy day.

Logical
01-22-2006, 11:11 PM
"We've got to get quickly on a track to energy independence from foreign oil, and that means, among other things, going back to nuclear power," McCain said on Fox News Sunday.

To me that is just good common sense, yet there will be left wingers that are so extreme in their environmental views they would be willing to sacrifice energy independence to prevent it.

Pitt Gorilla
01-22-2006, 11:49 PM
To me that is just good common sense, yet there will be left wingers that are so extreme in their environmental views they would be willing to sacrifice energy independence to prevent it.
The fringe won't matter. Ideas like this make too much sense to ignore.

Adept Havelock
01-23-2006, 09:28 AM
Like a plastic bag on a windy day.

It's the most beautiful thing I've ever....no, wait, it's most certainly not. It's just a damn bag blowing in the breeze! :cuss:

I agree wholeheartedly about McCain. If he had won in 2000, the nation would be considerably better off.