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ChiefsFan4Life
01-23-2006, 03:23 PM
Chiefs | Priefer hired
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:02:19 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs have announced the team has hired Mike Priefer as the team's special teams coach.


Chiefs | Matsko hired
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:02:19 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs have announced the team has hired John Matsko as the team's offensive line coach.


Chiefs | Blackmon hired
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:02:18 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs have announced the team has hired Don Blackmon as the team's linebackers coach.


Chiefs | Wallis retained
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:02:17 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs have announced the team has retained Darvin Wallis as the team's defensive assistant/quality control coach.


Chiefs | Long retained
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:02:04 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs have announced the team has retained Billy Long as the team's assistant strength and conditioning coach.


Chiefs | Hurd retained
Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:01:51 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs have announced the team has retained Jeff Hurd as the team's strength and conditioning coach.

John_Wayne
01-23-2006, 03:26 PM
What do we know about these guys? Where did they come from? Do they have a good track record of success?

ILChief
01-23-2006, 03:27 PM
Start printing Super Bowl tickets!

FAX
01-23-2006, 03:28 PM
Mike Priefer - Giants something or other?

John Matsko - Oline coach at Rams?

Don Blackmon - ???? Bills maybe?

FAX THE TRYING TO PLACE THESE PERSONS OF INTEREST

beer bacon
01-23-2006, 03:28 PM
We still don't have a secondary coach right? Dear God, I somehow hope we can pick up Henderson as the secondary coach/Assistant HC.

Lurch
01-23-2006, 03:28 PM
:spock:

Don't know what to think.....

Mike Priefer


Mike Priefer begins his second season with the Giants as one of just two holdovers retained by Tom Coughlin from the previous coaching staff. The other is tight ends coach Mike Pope. Priefer was hired on Feb. 4, 2003 to fill the new position of assistant special teams coach.

Priefer spent the 2002 season in those same roles on Coughlin’s staff in Jacksonville. It was his first season in the NFL. His father, Chuck Priefer, is entering his eighth season as the special teams coach of the Detroit Lions.

Priefer graduated from the Naval Academy in 1989 with a degree in economics. He earned a master’s degree in management from the University of Maryland in 1997.

Priefer played quarterback and wide receiver on Navy’s junior varsity and lightweight teams from 1985 to 1988. He later flew helicopters as a Naval officer from 1991 to 1994. Priefer was stationed on the USS America in the Persian Gulf a year after the Persian Gulf War.

Priefer began his coaching career at the Naval Academy in 1994. In three seasons as a Navy coach, he worked with the special teams, serving as the kickers, punters and snappers coach for the varsity in 1994, and the junior varsity defensive coordinator and special teams coach in 1995 and `96. He also worked with the linebackers and defensive line.

In 1997-98, Priefer was the tackles/tight ends coach and assistant special teams coordinator at Youngstown State, which won the Division 1-AA national championship in 1997. He was the inside linebackers coach/special teams coordinator at Virginia Military Institute in 1999 and the defensive tackles coach and special teams assistant at Northern Illinois in 2000-2001.

Priefer was born on Aug. 21, 1966. He and his wife, Debbie, have four children: daughters Samantha (7/10/93) and Katie (11/13/98) and sons Michael, Jr. (12/13/94) and Wilson (12/21/97).

DeepSouth
01-23-2006, 03:30 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2006/01/23/edwards_names_six_more_assistants_to_his_staff/
EDWARDS NAMES SIX MORE ASSISTANTS TO HIS STAFF
Jan 23, 2006, 2:56:18 PM



Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards announced on Monday that he has added six more members to his coaching staff. As per club policy, terms of the agreements were not announced. Edwards announced that Jeff Hurd (strength and conditioning), Billy Long (assistant strength and conditioning) and Darvin Wallis (defensive assistant/quality control) will all be retained. New members of the Kansas City Chiefs coaching staff include Don Blackmon (linebackers), John Matsko (offensive line) and Mike Priefer (special teams).



Blackmon comes to Kansas City as the Chiefs linebackers coach after spending the past three seasons in that same capacity in Buffalo (2003-05). Under Blackmon’s guidance, Bills LB Takeo Spikes earned his first two Pro Bowl invitations following the 2003 and 2004 seasons. Prior to joining Buffalo, Blackmon spent five seasons with Atlanta as the linebackers coach (’97-00) and defensive coordinator (2001) and was part of a Falcons staff that helped guide the club to a berth in Super Bowl XXXIII. The Pompano, Florida native also coached the linebackers for New England (’88-90), Cleveland (’91) and the N.Y. Giants (’93-96). A three-time All-Missouri Valley Conference selection at Tulsa, Blackmon was a fourth-round pick of New England in the ‘81 NFL Draft. He started 72 of 89 games the next seven seasons and was a member of the Patriots squad that faced Chicago in Super Bowl XX. He finished his career with 29.5 sacks.

Hurd enters his ninth season as the club’s head strength and conditioning coach. A Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist and a member of the National Strength and Conditioning Association, he joined the Chiefs in ‘98 after spending the previous three seasons as the assistant strength and conditioning coach for Jacksonville (’95-97). He began his coaching career as a graduate assistant strength coach in ‘84 at his alma mater of Fort Hays State. After leaving Fort Hays, Hurd served as the head strength coach for Delta State (’85-86), Western Michigan (’87-93) and Tulsa (’94), in addition to a stint as the assistant strength and conditioning coach at Clemson (’86-87) before joining the Jaguars in ‘95. Hurd was raised in Parker, Arizona and was a four-year letterman on the Fort Hays State baseball squad.

Long begins his sixth season as the Chiefs assistant strength and conditioning coach. He joined Kansas City after a nine-year stay (’92-00) at Southern University where he served as that school’s offensive line coach and the school’s strength and conditioning coach. Long also served as a longtime consultant with the St. Louis Rams. He also enjoyed a coaching stint as an offensive line coach/strength and conditioning coach at Arkansas – Pine Bluff (’87-91) after beginning his coaching tenure working with the offensive and defensive lines at Alabama State (’81-86), where he also served as strength and conditioning coach.

Matsko joins the Chiefs as the club’s offensive line coach after spending the previous seven seasons as the offensive line coach in St. Louis (’99-05). During his time with the Rams, he tutored seven-time Pro Bowl T Orlando Pace. Prior to joining the Rams he enjoyed stints as the offensive line coach for Arizona (’92-93), New Orleans (’94-96) and the N.Y. Giants (’97-98). The Mentor, Ohio native had collegiate coaching stops at Southern California (’87-91), Arizona (’86), Navy (’85), North Carolina (’78-84) and Miami (OH) in ‘77. The Kent State graduate started his coaching career at Kent State (’73) and Miami (’74-75) before serving as the head coach at Danbury HS in Lakeside-Marblehead, Ohio.

Priefer was named Kansas City’s special teams coach after spending the last three seasons as the assistant special teams coach with the N.Y. Giants (2003-05). He originally entered the NFL coaching ranks as an assistant special teams coach with Jacksonville (2002). He began his coaching career at his alma mater of the Navel Academy (’94-96) before enjoying stops at Youngstown State (’97-98), Virginia Military Institute (’99) and Northern Illinois (2000-01). Priefer was a quarterback and wide receiver on the Naval Academy’s junior varsity and lightweight teams. In addition, he flew helicopters as a Naval officer and was stationed on USS America in the Persian Gulf after the Persian Gulf War.

Wallis embarks on his 25th season as an NFL coach in 2006. A member of the Chiefs coaching staff since ‘89, Wallis’ 18-year tenure with Kansas City is the second-longest stint by an assistant coach in franchise history. Only Tom Pratt (21 years) owns more years of service with the club. Wallis also joins Pratt by holding the distinction of becoming the only other assistant coach in franchise history to serve with four different head coaches (Marty Schottenheimer, Gunther Cunningham, Dick Vermeil and Edwards). Wallis and Edwards were both members of Schottenheimer’s staff in Kansas City from ‘92-94. Prior to joining the Chiefs, Wallis spent seven seasons on Schottenheimer’s staff with the Cleveland Browns (’82-88).

Lurch
01-23-2006, 03:30 PM
The Rams O-Line wasn't known for greatness, outside Pace....

John Matsko
Title Offensive Line
NFL Exp 13 years
With Rams 6 years

Coaching Highlights:Matsko will enter his seventh season with the Rams in 2005, and will team up with John Benton to coach the offensive line for the second year in a row. Matsko, who teamed with legendary NFL coach Jim Hanifan to coach the men up front for his first five seasons in St. Louis, came to the Rams in 1999 after coaching the offensive line for the New York Giants from 1997-98.
Prior to joining the Giants, Matsko coached the offensive line for the New Orleans Saints from 1994-96 and entered the NFL to coach in the same capacity for the Arizona Cardinals from 1992-93.

Matsko was a fullback at Kent State and began his coaching career there in 1973 as a student assistant coach. John coached at Miami of Ohio for three years, two as a graduate assistant (1974-75) and one as offensive line coach (1977).

Matsko was head coach at Danbury High in Lakeside-Marblehead, Ohio, in 1976. Matsko was offensive coordinator and offensive line coach at North Carolina (1978-84). He coached at Navy (1985) and Arizona (1986), then moved to the University of Southern California (1987-91), serving as offensive coordinator during his last three seasons at USC.

John is from Mentor, Ohio, and has a bachelor’s degree in business education from Kent State and a Master’s in education from Miami of Ohio. He is married to Kim, has two daughters, Marie and Liz, and two sons, John and Michael. The Matskos reside in Lake St. Louis, MO.

Ari Chi3fs
01-23-2006, 03:31 PM
Why not keep Irv Eatmon, who was Asst OLine... and promote him? Wonder what the deal with that is.

tk13
01-23-2006, 03:32 PM
No secondary coach, yet. It's definitely looking like we're waiting to see if Donnie Henderson falls into any of the remaining DC jobs.

King_Chief_Fan
01-23-2006, 03:34 PM
What do we know about these guys? Where did they come from? Do they have a good track record of success?

The o line coach is junk.

You see what happened to the Rams the last couple of years?
Pretty much the same players, but have gone to hell in a hand basket.

Jackson couldn't get yards and Bulger ended up on the sidelines busted up and out of action for most of the year.

LJ and Green are going have a tough year

Reaper16
01-23-2006, 03:36 PM
The o line coach is junk.

You see what happened to the Rams the last couple of years?
Pretty much the same players, but have gone to hell in a hand basket.

Jackson couldn't get yards and Bulger ended up on the sidelines busted up and out of action for most of the year.

LJ and Green are going have a tough year
Solari's still on staff, and our o-line > Rams o-line anyway.

Cochise
01-23-2006, 03:38 PM
prepare for implosion over hiring of a position coach that no one knows a thing about except that he sucks

tk13
01-23-2006, 03:39 PM
I wouldn't be so fast to jump on the Rams' O-line coach. I think that has a lot to do with the HC's philosophy. Martz didn't care about turnovers or protecting the QB. They were just fine under Vermeil... and Edwards puts a lot more emphasis on the O-line and running the ball than Martz did, and we still have Solari coaching over him, I'm sure our O-line will be just fine.

C-Mac
01-23-2006, 03:39 PM
The o line coach is junk.

You see what happened to the Rams the last couple of years?
Pretty much the same players, but have gone to hell in a hand basket.

Jackson couldn't get yards and Bulger ended up on the sidelines busted up and out of action for most of the year.

LJ and Green are going have a tough year

Ya, too bad they didnt keep Solari........oh wait.

tomahawk kid
01-23-2006, 03:40 PM
Priefer is solid - Giants had #1 Special teams in the league last year (according to foxsports.net)

EDIT: They actually finished the season at #10. My bad.

Blackmon looks to be a good pickup - Bills have had good LB play over the past couple of years IIRC.

Not too sure about Matsko. Rams o-Line as been shaky AT BEST over the past 2-3 seasons.

King_Chief_Fan
01-23-2006, 03:40 PM
I wouldn't be so fast to jump on the Rams' O-line coach. I think that has a lot to do with the HC's philosophy. Martz didn't care about turnovers or protecting the QB. They were just fine under Vermeil... and Edwards puts a lot more emphasis on the O-line and running the ball than Martz did, and we still have Solari coaching over him, I'm sure our O-line will be just fine.

Here's to hoping you are correct

phxchief
01-23-2006, 03:40 PM
I could coach our O-line to a high level.

A one-eyed frog could coach 2 HOFers / 3 All-Pros / 4 Pro Bowl (caliber) players to great things.

ptlyon
01-23-2006, 03:41 PM
Welcome to the first "We're f*ked" thread of the 2006 season.

FAX
01-23-2006, 03:42 PM
Shannon Sharpe says, "Mhif Solarah duh olime bee juice fime." And I believe him.

FAX

beer bacon
01-23-2006, 03:42 PM
I could coach our O-line to a high level.

A one-eyed frog could coach 2 HOFers / 3 All-Pros / 4 Pro Bowl (caliber) players to great things.

I am more concerned with developing our younger talent. I don't want to have a blackhole at the tackle position when Roaf retires.

FAX
01-23-2006, 03:44 PM
I swear to the misty heavens on high that I wish we had a one-eyed frog as an assistant coach.

That would be awesome!!

FAX

SLAG
01-23-2006, 03:45 PM
I swear to the misty heavens on high that I wish we had a one-eyed frog as an assistant coach.

That would be awesome!!

FAX

The Mexican Staring Frog of Southern Sri Lanka

FAX
01-23-2006, 03:47 PM
He could teach our o-line to jump out of their stances and wrap their sticky long tounges around opposing linebackers!!!

Or, would that be holding?

FAX

ptlyon
01-23-2006, 03:50 PM
This thread is suddenly cast into the Zappa song, "Frogs with Dirty Little Lips".

FAX
01-23-2006, 03:51 PM
I think it would probably fall under the category of "offensive tounging".

15 yards and loss of down.

FAX

FringeNC
01-23-2006, 03:58 PM
I wouldn't be so fast to jump on the Rams' O-line coach. I think that has a lot to do with the HC's philosophy. Martz didn't care about turnovers or protecting the QB. They were just fine under Vermeil... and Edwards puts a lot more emphasis on the O-line and running the ball than Martz did, and we still have Solari coaching over him, I'm sure our O-line will be just fine.

I don't know anything about this guy, but it is interesting how the Rams' offense has come back down to earth. I think it was best in 00 and 01 (after Vermeil left), and it has been downhill since then. My guess would be that the offensive line. Or maybe Bulger isn't as good as Warner was in his prime. Or maybe Martz lost the team. Something happened.

Mike in SW-MO
01-23-2006, 03:59 PM
My first reaction on the o-line coach is the same as everyone else's.

On further reflection, they don't have a true fullback at all and they certainly don't have a blocking tight end to match Jason Dunn.

Having a good lead blocker like those two can cure a world of ailments. And lets not forgot how bad the Chiefs o-line got when Roaf went down this year.

We'll know how good he is when we see if big Willie and Big Will up an retire this year. If they stick around, you can be sure Blackmon has their respect. They won't stay for somebody they don't think will get them some mileage.

Cormac
01-23-2006, 04:01 PM
Welcome to the first "We're f*ked" thread of the 2006 season.

Where ya been. This is at least the 20th.....


;)

tk13
01-23-2006, 04:01 PM
I don't know anything about this guy, but it is interesting how the Rams' offense has come back down to earth. I think it was best in 00 and 01 (after Vermeil left), and it has been downhill since then. My guess would be that the offensive line. Or maybe Bulger isn't as good as Warner was in his prime. Or maybe Martz lost the team. Something happened.
It's probably pretty simple, Vermeil believes in running the ball and winning the turnover battle. Martz doesn't, at all. You can't turn the ball over and win football games consistently.

el borracho
01-23-2006, 04:03 PM
Ok, I am too lazy to look up the information but is it possible that the production of the Rams Oline declined due to age or injury?

Cormac
01-23-2006, 04:04 PM
Or maybe Martz lost his mind. Something happened.

Fixed your post. Always wanted to do that.

FringeNC
01-23-2006, 04:04 PM
It's probably pretty simple, Vermeil believes in running the ball and winning the turnover battle. Martz doesn't, at all. You can't turn the ball over and win football games consistently.

That doesn't explain why the Rams went from the best offense in the league to mediocre. It might explain their W/L record, though.

FAX
01-23-2006, 04:04 PM
Roaf has repeatedly stated that he wants to come back. I have a feeling that Will will return if he feels healthy now that Solari has been promoted. He's said that he doesn't want to play if the team is "re-building", however.

You're right about Trich and Dunn, though, Mr. Mike in SW-MO. They are warriors and contribute mightily to the offense.

It will work out. Or as Shannon Sharpe would say, "Mhuffa bim nebba no."

FAX

C-Mac
01-23-2006, 04:04 PM
Shannon Sharpe says, "Mhif Solarah duh olime bee juice fime." And I believe him.

FAX

Who can argue with that? ROFL

Halfcan
01-23-2006, 04:10 PM
Shannon Sharpe says, "Mhif Solarah duh olime bee juice fime." And I believe him.

FAX


Was he wearing his pimp hat?

Amnorix
01-23-2006, 04:10 PM
Don Blackmon is a guy whose assistant coaching career I have keep a steady, long-distance eye on. As a former VERY good linebacker for the Patriots, I've always rooted for him in his post-playing days coaching career.

IMHO he's been a very solid coach and successful coach. The Bills were a top defense in the NFL in 2004 in large part due to excellent linebacker play. His 1998 Falcons Linebacking crew was excellent, with Cornelius Bennett, Keith Brooking, and a few other guys.

He tends to coach in 4-3 systems, so my perennial hopes that he hooks on to the Patriots under BB are never going to be realized. He's also not a part of the Parcells/Belichick coaching trees.

tk13
01-23-2006, 04:14 PM
That doesn't explain why the Rams went from the best offense in the league to mediocre. It might explain their W/L record, though.
You don't think? You gotta take care of the football. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take chances but you can't be all willy nilly not caring if you lose the football because you think your offense will make up for it.

Plus, you gotta run the football and have some balance. Here's where the Rams ranked in pass attempts/run attempts, starting with Vermeil's last year.

Pass attempts/run attempts
1999 - 20th/16th
2000 - 3rd/26th
2001 - 12th/22nd
2002 - 1st/32nd
2003 - 2nd/28th
2004 - 5th/30th
2005 - 4th/29th

FAX
01-23-2006, 04:16 PM
Wow ... 2002 was a good year for air martz.

FAX

Woodrow Call
01-23-2006, 04:18 PM
I really like the Krumrie and Blackmon hires both are upgrades from the previous staff. If Donnie Henderson comes in as DB coach this is has a chance to be a very good defensive coaching staff IMO.

siberian khatru
01-23-2006, 04:30 PM
prepare for implosion over hiring of a position coach that no one knows a thing about except that he sucks

Exactly. ROFL

SLAG
01-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Wheres the Beef?

KCChiefsFan88
01-23-2006, 04:55 PM
Found some pictures to go along with the names of the new coaches... hope this works:

Mike Priefer:



http://admin.giants.com/images/coaches/04_c_priefer.jpg

FAX
01-23-2006, 04:56 PM
Found some pictures to go along with the names of the new coaches... hope this works:

Mike Priefer:



http://admin.giants.com/images/coaches/04_c_priefer.jpg

He looks like a stand up guy.

FAX

KCChiefsFan88
01-23-2006, 04:57 PM
Don Blackmon:

http://http://www.buffalobills.com/uploads/coaches/407CBF0A9E204075AFAABA9EBFCF3A8B.jpg

FAX
01-23-2006, 04:58 PM
Don Blackmon:

http://http://www.buffalobills.com/uploads/coaches/407CBF0A9E204075AFAABA9EBFCF3A8B.jpg

He should be coaching for the little red xs.

FAX

KCChiefsFan88
01-23-2006, 04:58 PM
Another Don Blackmon attempt:

http://http://www.nfl.com.mx/imagenes/buffalo-DonBlackmon.jpg

KCChiefsFan88
01-23-2006, 04:59 PM
Blackmon won't load,

here is a link to his picture, he looks like a badass

http://www.buffalobills.com/uploads/coaches/407CBF0A9E204075AFAABA9EBFCF3A8B.jpg

SLAG
01-23-2006, 05:01 PM
he looks like Principal Blackman

Baby Lee
01-23-2006, 05:08 PM
I don't know anything about this guy, but it is interesting how the Rams' offense has come back down to earth. I think it was best in 00 and 01 (after Vermeil left), and it has been downhill since then. My guess would be that the offensive line. Or maybe Bulger isn't as good as Warner was in his prime. Or maybe Martz lost the team. Something happened.
Or maybe Bulger was out half the season and the backups suh-hucked.
Or maybe half the team were apparently battling deadly infections half the season.

splatbass
01-23-2006, 06:02 PM
Exactly. ROFL

Looks like your "fun fact" will be wrong after this SB. Neither Holmgren nor Cowher won a SB with their current teams within 5 years. And if Seattle wins your "more fun facts" will be wrong too.

the Talking Can
01-23-2006, 07:36 PM
I like these hires...Blackmon/Krumrie/and maybe Henderson as DB coach have a hell of a lot more promise than the coaches we canned...we may actually have some talent there....finally

and Matsko makes sense....he works in the same scheme as us, he's coached a superbowl OL....I'm fine with it, they had a lot of injuries in the last 2 years and Martz' insane play calling....

I'm liking the staff Edwards is putting together.

milkman
01-23-2006, 07:39 PM
Where ya been. This is at least the 20th.....


;)

The first was when Hermie got hired.

milkman
01-23-2006, 07:41 PM
Don Blackmon is a guy whose assistant coaching career I have keep a steady, long-distance eye on. As a former VERY good linebacker for the Patriots, I've always rooted for him in his post-playing days coaching career.

IMHO he's been a very solid coach and successful coach. The Bills were a top defense in the NFL in 2004 in large part due to excellent linebacker play. His 1998 Falcons Linebacking crew was excellent, with Cornelius Bennett, Keith Brooking, and a few other guys.

He tends to coach in 4-3 systems, so my perennial hopes that he hooks on to the Patriots under BB are never going to be realized. He's also not a part of the Parcells/Belichick coaching trees.

Yeah, I remember Blackmon.
He was smart and a hitter.

I think this guy is really a good hire.

milkman
01-23-2006, 07:44 PM
I really like the Krumrie and Blackmon hires both are upgrades from the previous staff. If Donnie Henderson comes in as DB coach this is has a chance to be a very good defensive coaching staff IMO.

Yeah.
These guys, Krumrie and Blackmon could really help upgrade the play at the positions they coach.

If Hermie brings a D back to KC, and he doesn't **** up the O too much, I could get behind him.

siberian khatru
01-23-2006, 07:56 PM
Looks like your "fun fact" will be wrong after this SB. Neither Holmgren nor Cowher won a SB with their current teams within 5 years. And if Seattle wins your "more fun facts" will be wrong too.

1. Yes, after 30 years there will finally be an exception. It was a good, long run.

2. There will be nothing "wrong" about the the second set of data -- it clearly states there already have been two outliers.

In fact, there's nothing "right" or "wrong" about either -- just a data set that shows very strong, if not immutable, trends.

splatbass
01-23-2006, 08:22 PM
1. Yes, after 30 years there will finally be an exception. It was a good, long run.

2. There will be nothing "wrong" about the the second set of data -- it clearly states there already have been two outliers.

In fact, there's nothing "right" or "wrong" about either -- just a data set that shows very strong, if not immutable, trends.

I just brought it up because your sig implies that if a coach doesn't go to the SB within 5 years they aren't a good coach or aren't ever going to go. The fact is even good coaches like Cowher, Holmgren, and yes, even Vermiel, have a hard time getting to and winning the SB in five years. There are 32 teams and only one team wins it each year. A lot of luck goes into it too. Some coaches, like Billick, that do it aren't really very good coaches, and some coaches like Holmgren that are don't make it for years. Parcells is one of the great coaches in NFL history, but I doubt ifhe makes the SB with Dallas anytime soon.

FringeNC
01-23-2006, 08:26 PM
Or maybe Bulger was out half the season and the backups suh-hucked.
Or maybe half the team were apparently battling deadly infections half the season.

The decline started in 2002. From 2002 on, they were nowhere near as good as they were from 99-01.

siberian khatru
01-23-2006, 08:31 PM
I just brought it up because your sig implies that if a coach doesn't go to the SB within 5 years they aren't a good coach or aren't ever going to go. The fact is even good coaches like Cowher, Holmgren, and yes, even Vermiel, have a hard time getting to and winning the SB in five years. There are 32 teams and only one team wins it each year. A lot of luck goes into it too. Some coaches, like Billick, that do it aren't really very good coaches, and some coaches like Holmgren that are don't make it for years. Parcells is one of the great coaches in NFL history, but I doubt ifhe makes the SB with Dallas anytime soon.

Cowher, Holmgren and Vermeil DID get to Super Bowls within 5 years (Cowher didn't win his, though). Vermeil did it with two teams. So did Parcells. So I'm not bagging on them at all. Obviously, they can't do it with EVERY team they coach.

I get your point about luck, Barry Switzers, etc., but I still think 30 years is a compelling sample that 5 years is pretty much ample time to get a team to a Super Bowl. There will always be exceptions, but that doesn't disprove the overall point: The vast majority of coaches who reach a Super Bowl will do it within 5 years. That is indisputable.

:)

Tribal Warfare
01-23-2006, 10:46 PM
I really like the Krumrie and Blackmon hires both are upgrades from the previous staff. If Donnie Henderson comes in as DB coach this is has a chance to be a very good defensive coaching staff IMO.


Then their's Gunther :banghead:

Alphaman
01-23-2006, 11:11 PM
You guys are missing the point on why Matsko is a good hire. This offense requires o-linemen to get out in space and block. Pulling on sweeps, getting out on screens, draw plays, etc.... Having coached the Rams o-line, Matsko knows the offense and what is required of the o-linemen. He'll help keep the continuity.

milkman
01-24-2006, 07:02 PM
You guys are missing the point on why Matsko is a good hire. This offense requires o-linemen to get out in space and block. Pulling on sweeps, getting out on screens, draw plays, etc.... Having coached the Rams o-line, Matsko knows the offense and what is required of the o-linemen. He'll help keep the continuity.

That's a very good point.
I admit, I hadn't thought of that.

booger
01-24-2006, 08:02 PM
Fred Pagac to coach Vikes LB's.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2304875

Reaper16
01-24-2006, 08:07 PM
Fred Pagac to coach Vikes LB's.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2304875
Damnit, Childress!! :banghead:

tk13
01-24-2006, 08:11 PM
Fred Pagac to coach Vikes LB's.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2304875
Look forward to Mike Tomlin flipping off the officials then screaming at Pagac on national TV this season.

booger
01-24-2006, 08:13 PM
Look forward to Mike Tomlin flipping off the officials then screaming at Pagac on national TV this season.
ROFL