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Laz
01-27-2006, 11:49 AM
Posted on Fri, Jan. 27, 2006
‘I don’t know him’ Bush dismisses photos with Abramoff

i did not have sexual relations with that woman ~Clinton

WASHINGTON — President Bush tried to distance himself Thursday from disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff while refusing to release White House pictures taken of him with Abramoff.

“I, frankly, don’t even remember having my picture taken with the guy. I don’t know him,” Bush said. “But I can’t say I didn’t ever meet him.”

I cannot recall anything whatsoever about whether I approved an Israeli sale ~Reagan

The president’s remarks came in a wide-ranging impromptu White House news conference in which he continued to defend his domestic eavesdropping program, embraced a Russian proposal to end the stalemate over Iran’s nuclear activities and carefully interpreted the stunning victory Wednesday by the militant Islamic group Hamas in Palestinian parliamentary elections.

Since Abramoff’s plea, administration officials have acknowledged that he met with some White House staffers but won’t say whom or about what. White House press secretary Scott McClellan has said Abramoff was in the White House at least twice for Hanukkah parties.

“Having my picture taken with someone doesn’t mean that I’m a friend with them or know them very well. I’ve had my picture taken with you at holiday parties,” Bush reminded reporters.

“I’m also mindful that we live in a world in which those pictures will be used for pure political purposes, and they’re not relevant to the investigation,” Bush said.

Bush reiterated his contention that he was within his constitutional rights to authorize electronic eavesdropping without getting a warrant from a court or specific approval from Congress.

Bush’s critics charge that he violated the 1978 Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act, which requires warrants from a secret U.S. court for such eavesdropping.

“We’re having this discussion in 2006. It’s a different world,” the president said.

Turning his attention to the Middle East, Bush called Hamas’ surprising victory in Palestinian elections a “wake-up call” to Palestinian leaders who followed the late Yasser Arafat.

On Iran, the president called a proposal by Russia to enrich Iran’s uranium and return it to the Islamic nation for use in fueling nuclear reactors for electricity “a good plan.”

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— William Douglas Knight Ridder Newspapers

Baby Lee
01-27-2006, 11:51 AM
http://home.wtal.de/infos/killers/gacycarter.jpg

Donger
01-27-2006, 11:51 AM
http://home.wtal.de/infos/killers/gacycarter.jpg

Ouch!

ROFL

Lurch
01-27-2006, 11:55 AM
What is the definition of the word...."know?" Ask Bill Clinton, and his lawyers. ;)

Chief Henry
01-27-2006, 12:07 PM
http://home.wtal.de/infos/killers/gacycarter.jpg


OK, I give up. Who's in the picture :shrug:

Baby Lee
01-27-2006, 12:10 PM
OK, I give up. Who's in the picture :shrug:
Rose Carter and John Wayne Gacy.

patteeu
01-27-2006, 12:12 PM
John Wayne Gacy and Roselyn Carter were personal friends? OMG!! :)

Lurch
01-27-2006, 12:13 PM
Weren't there a couple of guys convicted of fundraising and campaign improprieties that were closely tied to the Clintons too? I can't remember their names off the top of my head....

patteeu
01-27-2006, 12:16 PM
Based on the context of the article, I'd say that by "know," Bush means his relationship with Abramhoff was so inconsequential that he doesn't even remember ever meeting him. If it turns out that he does remember meeting him then I will consider these statements lies (even if a strict parsing and an unconventional use of the word "know" might make them technically accurate).

patteeu
01-27-2006, 12:18 PM
Weren't there a couple of guys convicted of fundraising and campaign improprieties that were closely tied to the Clintons too? I can't remember their names off the top of my head....

Al Gore got away with it because there was "no controlling legal authority." :p

banyon
01-27-2006, 12:36 PM
From Wittgenstein:

I look at an object and say "That is a tree", or "I know that is a tree"--Now if I go nearer and it turns out that is isn't, I may say "It wasn't a tree after all" or alternatively I say "It was a tree, but now it isn't any longer". But if all the others contradicted me, and said it never had been a tree, and if all the other evidence spoke against me--what good would it do me to stick to my "I know"?

--For "I know" seems to describe a state of affairs which guarantees what is known, guarantees it as a fact. One Always forgets the expression "I thought I knew".

Maybe W was just practicing his philosophy, or if you get close enough to Abramoff, it turns out that he's really not Abramoff. :)