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ZootedGranny
02-12-2006, 05:07 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/13851127.htm

HONOLULU — If today is Will Shields’ last time in a football uniform, the future Hall of Famer isn’t acting like it.

Shields isn’t doing anything all that special to commemorate his 11th trip to football’s all-star weekend in paradise. Oh, sure, he’s having a good time, enjoying the fellowship with the game’s top players. But he isn’t documenting every moment, and he’s not measuring his words when asked about the possibility of retirement.

“I’ll know in a couple of weeks, maybe by March 3. Isn’t that the first day of free-agency?” Shields said to me early Friday evening at the Pro Bowl team hotel. “It all depends on my knees and back.”

There you have it. Will Shields — the 13-year Chiefs vet — wants to play another season. Barring leaving today’s all-star classic in pronounced pain, you can expect the man who put the Will in Kansas City’s “Big Willies” offensive line to lineup once again alongside Casey Wiegmann, Brian Waters, Willie Roaf and John Welbourn.

Thursday night, at a party hosted by Tony Gonzalez and Warren Moon, one of Shields’ teammates assured me that today’s all-star game would not be the last for Shields.

The popular thinking among the players in Honolulu is that the Chiefs, with Herm Edwards pushing the buttons, are the non-playoff team most likely to make a 2007 Super Bowl run.

“This team is going to be good regardless of whether I come back or not,” Shields said. “We’re right on the cusp of greatness. You don’t know what it’s going to take to push us over the edge. It might be one guy doing something a little different, something extra. It might be a group of guys. It might be me.”

It might be Ty Law. As Thursday night rolled into Friday morning, I knocked back a 32nd birthday shot of chilled Grey Goose with Law and his former New England teammate Otis Smith, the former Missouri Tiger. As my favorite corner celebrated his birthday, I campaigned for a Law-Herm Edwards Kansas City reunion.

Law said he expects the Jets to release him shortly after the Pro Bowl. In his one season in New York, Law led the NFL in interceptions with 10 and earned another Pro Bowl berth. He basically signed a one-year deal with the Jets because he had to prove he could recover from a 2005 foot injury.

“I was supposed to be done, but I put 10 interceptions on they (butt),” Law boasted. “Is the (Super Bowl) window still open for the Chiefs? Can the offense still get it done? And can they afford me and Pat (Surtain)?”

Yes, yes, and yes.

I explained to Law that as long as Shields returns for one more year and Larry Johnson takes care of himself this offseason, Kansas City’s offense will still score points. The offense might be less wide open, but that doesn’t mean it will be less effective.

“What about up front on defense? They got any playmakers?” Law wondered.

I told him the Chiefs need one playmaker to go along with Jared Allen. If Law signs for a reasonable price, the Chiefs could address their other shortcomings. So what kind of guaranteed, bonus money is Law looking for?

“I’d say around $10 million,” he said. “There are a lot of teams interested. Miami is talking about getting Steve McNair down there, and if the Dolphins get a quarterback, they’re a real contender for the Super Bowl. That’s what it’s all about for me right now. I need to win another title.”

Law also needs to play for a coach he can trust as much as Edwards, who has a great reputation with players around the league. Edwards’ player-friendly practice schedule was instrumental in Law’s ability to put together a strong season.

Shields said Edwards’ coaching style would benefit his ailing back and knees.

“I love Herm,” Shields said. “He’s a nice guy, a real straight-shooter. It’s always good to play for a guy who wants quality more than quantity. That’s better for your body.”

CHIEF4EVER
02-12-2006, 05:10 AM
Things are definately looking up.

ENDelt260
02-12-2006, 05:15 AM
Jason, you did a really shitty job of pretending your column was about Will Shields.

Miles
02-12-2006, 05:18 AM
Three paragraphs about Ty Law. Man that came out of nowhere.

Guru
02-12-2006, 05:20 AM
Jason, you did a really shitty job of pretending your column was about Will Shields.

No kidding!!!! Gawd!!! :rolleyes:

Dunit35
02-12-2006, 05:38 AM
My dad just started and it's already looking good. Knock on wood..Law looking for 10 mill huh? He may be barking up the wrong tree here. But who knows.

ChiefButthurt
02-12-2006, 05:46 AM
Damn I wish September would get here.

the Talking Can
02-12-2006, 05:57 AM
good

and did Whitlock say he was eating an entire goose? gross...

DJay23
02-12-2006, 07:31 AM
good

and did Whitlock say he was eating an entire goose? gross...
ROFL

BigRedChief
02-12-2006, 08:02 AM
I thought JW didn't drink alcohol?

Bob Dole
02-12-2006, 09:21 AM
Bob Dole hopes the offensive line stays intact, but doesn't really think we're going to be able to free up the cap space to bring in any big name free agents.

Bowser
02-12-2006, 09:27 AM
Jason, you did a really shitty job of pretending your column was about Will Shields.

Indeed.

Bob Dole hopes the offensive line stays intact, but doesn't realy think we're going to be able ot free up the cap space to bring in any big name free agents.

Maybe, but with this feeling of "this is the last year for a SB run with these veterans" in the air, we could possibly be pleasantly suprised. Hopefully.

beavis
02-12-2006, 10:18 AM
Bob Dole hopes the offensive line stays intact, but doesn't really think we're going to be able to free up the cap space to bring in any big name free agents.
If we do, cornerback ranks somewhere around #3 on my list of wants.

jspchief
02-12-2006, 10:30 AM
If we spend 10 million on a FA, and it's another f*cking CB, Carl Peterson should be drawn and quartered.

Bob Dole
02-12-2006, 10:30 AM
Maybe, but with this feeling of "this is the last year for a SB run with these veterans" in the air, we could possibly be pleasantly suprised. Hopefully.

How much are we going to have left after Larry re-works his contract? With his on-field performance and Herm publicly announcing that he's the starter in 2006, you know damned good and well he's going to want to get paid like the starting RB.

2006 salaries within the division (from NFLPA.org).

L. Johnson 741000
P. Holmes 3250000
L. Tomlinson 4250000
M. Anderson 2565000
Z. Crockett 2000000

And you can add the portion of his prorated signing bonus...

Sure-Oz
02-12-2006, 11:10 AM
Sign law for a reasonable price, we need DL help in the worst way! not even having the best cb's all in the same defense can help with our shitty line.

B_Ambuehl
02-12-2006, 11:44 AM
I love Will Shields and I hate to say it, but if it came down to him staying and the Chiefs not being able to sign anybody else on defense, vs him leaving and them being able to bring in a decent player, I'm not sure if I wouldn't rather see Shields retire and free up that ~6 million in cap space he ties up, especially considering replacing him with Welbourn at the right guard position is not far from an even swap.

htismaqe
02-12-2006, 11:47 AM
If we spend 10 million on a FA, and it's another f*cking CB, Carl Peterson should be drawn and quartered.

No shit.

We better not spend any real money on CB this offseason with the needs we have on the d-line and elsewhere in the defensive backfield.

Count Zarth
02-12-2006, 11:47 AM
I love Will Shields and I hate to say it, but if it came down to him staying and the Chiefs not being able to sign anybody else on defense, vs him leaving and them being able to bring in a decent player, I'm not sure if I wouldn't rather see Shields retire and free up that ~6 million in cap space he ties up, especially considering replacing him with Welbourn at the right guard position is not far from an even swap.

I agree with you, although I am worried about who would play right tackle in that situation. We've been snakebitten at that position until Welbourn's play last year.

milkman
02-12-2006, 11:57 AM
I agree with you, although I am worried about who would play right tackle in that situation. We've been snakebitten at that position until Welbourn's play last year.

Since Solari didn't focus on teaching technique, I would guess that was Eatman's responsibility.

With Solari now the OC, he may still be planning the ground game.

So maybe Matsko can actually help Black and Sampson in their development, as well as Svitek and Parquet.

OnTheWarpath58
02-12-2006, 12:01 PM
Without a pass rush, it doesn't matter who's playing CB.......

Surtain, Law, Deion in his PRIME......

You can't expect a corner to cover a WR for 6+ seconds. Opposing QB's get WAY too much time to throw, and pick us apart.

Get a pass rush and watch the DB's improve.

JMO.

FAX
02-12-2006, 12:37 PM
I love Will Shields and I hate to say it, but if it came down to him staying and the Chiefs not being able to sign anybody else on defense, vs him leaving and them being able to bring in a decent player, I'm not sure if I wouldn't rather see Shields retire and free up that ~6 million in cap space he ties up, especially considering replacing him with Welbourn at the right guard position is not far from an even swap.

I cannot believe it, Mr. B_Ambuehl. I cannot believe that you or anyone else could sit in an office and tell an 11 time pro-bowl guard (who is a veteran leader and key member of one of, if not the best OL in the NFL) to hit the road in order to save 6 million in cap.

Welborne can play guard. Will Shields defines the position of guard.

FAX

jspchief
02-12-2006, 12:42 PM
I cannot believe it, Mr. B_Ambuehl. I cannot believe that you or anyone else could sit in an office and tell an 11 time pro-bowl guard (who is a veteran leader and key member of one of, if not the best OL in the NFL) to hit the road in order to save 6 million in cap.

Welborne can play guard. Will Shields defines the position of guard.

FAXI have to agree. We shouldn't need to hope for the retirement of capable pro bowlers to improve this team. Not only are you casting aside his talent and experience, you're messing with chemistry, which any lineman will tell you is important.

TheBurryMan
02-12-2006, 12:59 PM
“I’ll know in a couple of weeks, maybe by March 3. Isn’t that the first day of free-agency?” Shields said to me early Friday evening at the Pro Bowl team hotel. “It all depends on my knees and back.”

There you have it. Will Shields — the 13-year Chiefs vet — wants to play another season.

* * * * * * * * *

Will said "It all depends on my knees and back." I am not sure where the writer sees this as a guarantee Will wants to play another season. If I proposed marriage to my girlfriend, and she said, "It all depends upon your drinking and womanizing." I don't see how it means we're set to get married.

splatbass
02-12-2006, 01:08 PM
Whitlock is here in Honolulu? That explains why all the breakfast buffets this weekend are out of food.

KcMizzou
02-12-2006, 01:17 PM
“I’ll know in a couple of weeks, maybe by March 3. Isn’t that the first day of free-agency?” Shields said to me early Friday evening at the Pro Bowl team hotel. “It all depends on my knees and back.”

There you have it. Will Shields — the 13-year Chiefs vet — wants to play another season.

* * * * * * * * *

Will said "It all depends on my knees and back." I am not sure where the writer sees this as a guarantee Will wants to play another season. The key word is wants to. Provided his body will let him.

JohnnyV13
02-12-2006, 08:17 PM
I love Will Shields and I hate to say it, but if it came down to him staying and the Chiefs not being able to sign anybody else on defense, vs him leaving and them being able to bring in a decent player, I'm not sure if I wouldn't rather see Shields retire and free up that ~6 million in cap space he ties up, especially considering replacing him with Welbourn at the right guard position is not far from an even swap.


If Shields comes back his cap number won't be 6.4 million. His base is 5.1 million, which will likely be given as a signing bonus spread out over 4 years (longest you can given that 07 is an uncapped year).

Give shields vet min for salary, a sb spread out over 4 years, plus the last year of his previous sb proration and you probably can get WIll's cap number down to around 3 million, saving about 3.5 in cap.

tk13
02-12-2006, 08:27 PM
I don't think we need to sign a bunch of big names to huge contracts anyway. We've got star players on both sides of the ball... LJ, Gonzo, Allen, DJ, Surtain. It's putting solid some pieces around them to build a complete unit... especially on defense.

Logical
02-12-2006, 08:43 PM
There you have it. Will Shields — the 13-year Chiefs vet — wants to play another season. How the hell do you draw that conclusion from him saying he will know in a couple of weeks? :rolleyes:

I think a writer needs to join Chiefs Roundup in kicking the MJ habit.