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Count Zarth
03-04-2006, 02:07 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/14013643.htm

Bell hasn’t tolled for linebacker
He has survived cuts and is expected to help pass rush

By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

As the Chiefs went through their roster with a carving knife this week looking for places to pare their overextended payroll, they found four players — but not last year’s free-agent disappointment.

That, as any frustrated Chiefs fan would confirm, would be outside linebacker Kendrell Bell. Between missing most of the offseason work and training camp because of injuries and failing to have an impact in the regular season, Bell became a symbol for all that went wrong with the Chiefs.

But Bell’s name wasn’t on the list of Thursday cuts and won’t be on one Sunday if the Chiefs need to make more moves to comply with the NFL’s salary cap.

He will come through the whole thing without a scratch other than the contract restructure that stripped him of his scheduled $3.5 million roster bonus.

Not only that, but Chiefs coach Herm Edwards and defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham are planning a bigger role for Bell next season. They want him to be a hand-on-the-ground, rush end in passing situations to pair with Jared Allen.

Even if that doesn’t work out, it’s clear the Chiefs haven’t given up on him.

“The prototype of what I’m looking for in that spot is Kendrell Bell,” Cunningham said. “He fits into that mold. I’m not backing away from that. He is everything that any coach on defense would ever want athletically and abilitywise. Now he’s got to get the system down.

“We’re going to blitz him more and do other things with him.”

Bell, who will turn 28 in July, was a strong pass rusher as an inside linebacker in the Steelers’ 3-4 defensive system during his first three seasons in the league. A 6-foot-1, 245-pounder out of Georgia, he had 18 sacks during 2001-03 before missing most of 2004 because of a groin injury.

It never happened for Bell in his first season in Kansas City. A balky shoulder wouldn’t allow him much practice time in training camp or preseason. He started in the regular season but had only 1 1/2 and wasn’t much of a presence against the run.

“If you get a guy from a 3-4 system and put him in a new (4-3) system and change teams, that’s always difficult for a player,” Edwards said. “All of a sudden he’s trying to learn things in a system that’s entirely different. He was nicked a little bit, too. That doesn’t help. All of those things were a factor.

“Hopefully we can get him going because he’s an impact player. He’s done that. You’re not hoping he can do it. He’s done that before and you’ve got to try to get him to play to that level again.

“That’s going to be our task.”

Using Bell as a rush end in obvious passing situations could be one way to do it. Cunningham had the idea last season but had Bell do it only a handful of times.

“In the Cincinnati game, he had a couple of really good rushes,” Cunningham said. “That’s what he did at Pittsburgh. But because his shoulder wasn’t 100 percent all the time, I was concerned, so we didn’t use him as that.

“That’s what he does really well. People don’t know what this guy has done. He’s very explosive. He told me the other day he was healthy enough to do it, and that really excites me. If he’s healthy, that really puts a lot more speed on our front line to get to the quarterback.”

Bell, who was not available for comment Friday, was one of four defensive starters imported by the Chiefs last season at Cunningham’s urging to help improve their defense. Linebacker Derrick Johnson, cornerback Patrick Surtain and safety Sammy Knight played well enough to justify their starting spots.

Cunningham is planning on Bell making an impact this time around.

“He wants to be a dynamic player here,” Cunningham said. “I really believe that. I feel that in him every day. If you’re going to be a good coach in this league, you’ve got to feel a player’s heart. I know what he wants to do. I’m one of those guys where if you show me that, I’ll do everything I can on my end.”

■ SIAVII PUNISHMENT: Chiefs defensive tackle Junior Siavii was ordered to perform 80 hours of community service for assaulting a doorman last Aug. 14 at a Minneapolis hotel, according to the Star-Tribune in Minneapolis.

Siavii, 27, pleaded guilty to a charge of causing fifth-degree “assault fear.”

“Assault fear,” a misdemeanor, means conduct that would put a reasonable person in fear of injury.

Count Zarth
03-04-2006, 02:09 AM
I have stopped believing in "Propaguntha."

“The prototype of what I’m looking for in that spot is Kendrell Bell,” Cunningham said. “He fits into that mold. I’m not backing away from that. He is everything that any coach on defense would ever want athletically and abilitywise. Now he’s got to get the system down.

Fruit Ninja
03-04-2006, 02:15 AM
good thing is they dont care what you think, or what i think for that matter. I dont care who is back there, just get it done.

Miles
03-04-2006, 02:21 AM
Restructuring Bell doesnt seem to be a bad deal at all. I was figuring we would just cut him, but was hoping we could keep him around for much less money.

Fruit Ninja
03-04-2006, 02:36 AM
Restructuring Bell doesnt seem to be a bad deal at all. I was figuring we would just cut him, but was hoping we could keep him around for much less money.Yep, now we have absolutley 0 need for linebackers. we need DLine and maybe a CB now. LB'ers just been totally eliminated.

phxchief
03-04-2006, 05:49 AM
Bell WAS everything you looked for in terms of physical tools and ability. Now, he's clearly not, and that's a shame.

Chiefnj
03-04-2006, 05:54 AM
So, basically the Chiefs spent a lot of money last year on a player who wasn't recovered from a shoulder injury and who wasn't smart enough to pick up the scheme.

I guess Griffen and Fox are left on the outside.

PunkinDrublic
03-04-2006, 05:55 AM
Every time Bells name gets mentioned I have visions of that pathetic excuse for a tackle he tried to make on Tiki Barber. Having to watch that over and over again was painful and a real low point for last year.

jspchief
03-04-2006, 06:06 AM
Personally. I don't think Bell will ever be what he was in Pittsburgh. I think he's got some physical condition that has made him too timid on the field.

That being said, I don't mind keeping the guy at his new cheaper price. If he is capapble of overcoming his injuries and returning to what he once was, we'll have a stud. Big "if".

donkhater
03-04-2006, 07:03 AM
BTW, WTF is 'assault fear'?

I swear this country is run by pussies. Figuratively and literally.

whoman69
03-04-2006, 07:06 AM
The fact that he could not play his game last year because of the physical problems, and that he was thrust into a less violent, less intensive pass coverage role, makes me happy to see they are confident enough to put him in the game where he will do the most good. Last year the pass rush left alot to be desired because the dline could not get a push on their own. Now its more like the days when we had Thomas/Smith rushing the QB from opposite sides. I just hope we don't get burned by the QB bootleg.

Count Zarth
03-04-2006, 07:26 AM
http://assaultfear.ytmnd.com/ (refresh a couple times)

the Talking Can
03-04-2006, 07:58 AM
"if he's healthy..."


super, year two of Bell and our coaches lying about his health...

JBucc
03-04-2006, 08:02 AM
If he wants to resign for the league minimum he's welcome to stay.

Coogs
03-04-2006, 08:13 AM
So, basically the Chiefs spent a lot of money last year on a player who wasn't recovered from a shoulder injury and who wasn't smart enough to pick up the scheme.

True. But Gun is a good coach. We know he is a good coach, because he told us what it takes to be a good coach...



I feel that in him every day. If you’re going to be a good coach in this league, you’ve got to feel a player’s heart.


:rolleyes:

I'm going to be shocked if this defense is any better next year. I'd rather draft a real DE like the dude from BC at #20, than convert a LB to that spot.

Coogs
03-04-2006, 08:29 AM
Manny Lawson from NC State put up some real impressive numbers at the combine too. Could be as fast as Freeney or Suggs.

I watched NC State play a couple of times this year, and both of their DE's looked like clones of each other. Williams is projected in the top 10 picks, but Lawson could be there at #20.

Extra Point
03-04-2006, 08:33 AM
The only thing they can do is what they did early this season with Allen: Rush in. Allen learned not to drop contain. IMO Bell will drop contain.

Bell=Bust

phxchief
03-04-2006, 08:34 AM
Every time Bells name gets mentioned I have visions of that pathetic excuse for a tackle he tried to make on Tiki Barber. Having to watch that over and over again was painful and a real low point for last year.

Same goes for just about every other player on the defense in that example.

phxchief
03-04-2006, 08:36 AM
I watched NC State play a couple of times this year, and both of their DE's looked like clones of each other. Williams is projected in the top 10 picks, but Lawson could be there at #20.

Ya, for a reason, though.

Williams has much better size and power.... there must be close to a 45-50lb difference.... that's why Williams won't get owned 1-on-1 by a lot of blockers.

milkman
03-04-2006, 08:41 AM
The fact that he could not play his game last year because of the physical problems, and that he was thrust into a less violent, less intensive pass coverage role, makes me happy to see they are confident enough to put him in the game where he will do the most good. Last year the pass rush left alot to be desired because the dline could not get a push on their own. Now its more like the days when we had Thomas/Smith rushing the QB from opposite sides. I just hope we don't get burned by the QB bootleg.

It won't really make all that much of a difference who we have on the ends, if we don't have someone on the inside to get penetration.

DT and Smith wouldn't have been nearly as effective without guys like Saleamua in the middle.

ROYC75
03-04-2006, 08:43 AM
Why didn't we just use Gary Stills there last year, rushing from the outside. Seems to me, that was his specialty that we never used.

the Talking Can
03-04-2006, 08:44 AM
Why didn't we just use Gary Stills there last year, rushing from the outside. Seems to me, that was his specialty that we never used.

because he sucks

ROYC75
03-04-2006, 08:45 AM
I pray we get more help upfront ...... like DT's.

ROYC75
03-04-2006, 08:45 AM
because he sucks

I agree, but it seems to me he was faster than Bell.

The Bad Guy
03-04-2006, 08:46 AM
Sam Adams would be a good fatbody to get.

I would draft the DE from NCState that Coogs mentioned. He ran a blazing 40 and speed off the edge is something we could always use.

Chiefnj
03-04-2006, 08:47 AM
If the plan is to keep Bell and utilize him as a rush specialist opposite Allen, does that mean KC is content with Hicks for the first two downs? Yikes.

CosmicPal
03-04-2006, 09:14 AM
I'll give him another chance considering their new plans with him. I actually think it's a good idea. I'd love to see us utilize him as a rush end on the opposite side much like we did sometimes with DT and Neil Smith.

However, even more intriguing would be to place Derrick Johnson over Jared Allen and have him rush next to Allen- that would certainly create all kinds of havoc for an offensive line should Bell be the perfect compliment on the opposite side. Besides, I think it could help out Hicks should we rush Bell on his side. Tackles would no longer have to just focus on Hicks alone, and instead have to contend with Bell coming at the same time.

Bell's got the talent, and I'll forgive him for being injured most of the training camp/preseason and having to learn a new system. But, he's got to get better or else. I'm tired of watching Kawika Mitchell run right by him to make a tackle...that's just not right.

milkman
03-04-2006, 09:20 AM
I'll give him another chance considering their new plans with him. I actually think it's a good idea. I'd love to see us utilize him as a rush end on the opposite side much like we did sometimes with DT and Neil Smith.

However, even more intriguing would be to place Derrick Johnson over Jared Allen and have him rush next to Allen- that would certainly create all kinds of havoc for an offensive line should Bell be the perfect compliment on the opposite side. Besides, I think it could help out Hicks should we rush Bell on his side. Tackles would no longer have to just focus on Hicks alone, and instead have to contend with Bell coming at the same time.

Bell's got the talent, and I'll forgive him for being injured most of the training camp/preseason and having to learn a new system. But, he's got to get better or else. I'm tired of watching Kawika Mitchell run right by him to make a tackle...that's just not right.

Again, none of it matters.

If we don't get help in the middle of the line, all the tackles have to do is push these edge rushers upfield, allowing the QB to step up in the pocket and make plays in the passing game.

Mr. Laz
03-04-2006, 09:28 AM
so basically this story is saying that the chiefs signed a guy that was still hurt last year. That they continually lied about Bell's health all last year. And that because of all the lies etc they played Bell in a role that was a weakness for him instead of fessing up and making a change.


brilliant!!


it's stupid chit like this that keeps a team from winning a playoff game for 10 years.


:cuss:

phxchief
03-04-2006, 09:29 AM
I would draft the DE from NCState that Coogs mentioned. He ran a blazing 40 and speed off the edge is something we could always use.

Way too small to be an every-down DE....

Dude will get pwned going up against a 300+lb OT 40+ snaps a game.

CosmicPal
03-04-2006, 09:31 AM
Again, none of it matters.

If we don't get help in the middle of the line, all the tackles have to do is push these edge rushers upfield, allowing the QB to step up in the pocket and make plays in the passing game.

There won't be middles if you're rushing four ends. The key is to have two go inside and two go outside. This is how you make up for the lack of efforts in a DT. The offensive line has no idea who's rushing the inside and who's rushing the outside lane. Sims won't always be effective, but he will in some cases.

jspchief
03-04-2006, 09:34 AM
so basically this story is saying that the chiefs signed a guy that was still hurt last year. That they continually lied about Bell's health all last year. And that because of all the lies etc they played Bell in a role that was a weakness for him instead of fessing up and making a change.


brilliant!!


it's stupid chit like this that keeps a team from winning a playoff game for 10 years.


:cuss:As much as I hate to defend the ineptitude of this team...

They obviously screwed up in not realizing the extent of the injury when they signed him, but they really had no choice but to play him, even if it meant in a role he wasn't suited for. We had 3 OLBs on IR. Bell was pretty much all we had.

My question is, if they were unable to accurately diagnosis his injury when they signed him last year, what makes them think they can do it this year? Oh yea, Gunther sees his heart.

jspchief
03-04-2006, 09:37 AM
However, even more intriguing would be to place Derrick Johnson over Jared Allen and have him rush next to Allen...With all due respect to Derrick Johnson, he's not that great of a pass rusher. He doesn't have good technique when it comes to shedding blockers on the pass rush. he gets jammed up by the RB pretty consistently.

We all want the next Derrick Thomas, but DJ isn't that guy. It's not his skill set.

Mr. Laz
03-04-2006, 09:42 AM
As much as I hate to defend the ineptitude of this team...

They obviously screwed up in not realizing the extent of the injury when they signed him, but they really had no choice but to play him, even if it meant in a role he wasn't suited for. We had 3 OLBs on IR. Bell was pretty much all we had.

My question is, if they were unable to accurately diagnosis his injury when they signed him last year, what makes them think they can do it this year? Oh yea, Gunther sees his heart.

isn't this the same team who wouldn't sign that cornerback because they thought he might have a neck problem?


they seem to be very selective about whether an injury is a concern or not.

Chiefnj
03-04-2006, 09:46 AM
isn't this the same team who wouldn't sign that cornerback because they thought he might have a neck problem?


they seem to be very selective about whether an injury is a concern or not.

Yep. It doesn't make sense. Samari Rolle never missed a game because of a back or neck injury yet the Chiefs were hesitant to pull the trigger on him. Meanwhile Bell is a walking mash unit and the Chiefs jump on him. What goes on behind the scenes must really be interesting.

jspchief
03-04-2006, 09:54 AM
isn't this the same team who wouldn't sign that cornerback because they thought he might have a neck problem?


they seem to be very selective about whether an injury is a concern or not.I'd ay they were either lying about the severity of Rolle's injury (which seems plausible considering he got signed and played all year in Baltimore), or they completely fugged up in their assessment of Bell's injury.

Or more likely, both.

What bother me is the fact that they already were wrong on Bell's injury once. I question whether they can get it right this time.

Either way, if the reports are true about his new contract, he's relatively cheap for a 5th year LB that has shown potential in the past. Considering what we paid Barber while he was on IR, I think I can justify not giving up on Bell for the right price.

I just hope that Fox and Griffin are given a legitimate chance to compete for that roster spot.

BigRedChief
03-04-2006, 09:54 AM
so has Gun and Herm announced that the Chiefs will play a 3-4 defense?

cdcox
03-04-2006, 09:55 AM
I think keeping him at a reasonable cost is a good move. The thing that worries me was that he looked very slow last year, and a shoulder injury shouldn't affect his speed. On one play in particular a RB had caught the ball and it didn't look like Bell was going to be able to close on him fast enough. Then Kawika comes from completely out of the camera frame, blows by Bell and flattens the RB. Bell seriously looked like he was running in cement.

A slow outside pass rusher is just a waste of a defender.

jspchief
03-04-2006, 09:57 AM
I think keeping him at a reasonable cost is a good move. The thing that worries me was that he looked very slow last year, and a shoulder injury shouldn't affect his speed. On one play in particular a RB had caught the ball and it didn't look like Bell was going to be able to close on him fast enough. Then Kawika comes from completely out of the camera frame, blows by Bell and flattens the RB. Bell seriously looked like he was running in cement.I remember thinking the same thing, and may even remember that play.

Bowser
03-04-2006, 10:22 AM
So, are we getting a first round pick preview here? If this article and what Gun says is 100% accurate, we are going to keep Eric Hicks at right end while rotating Bell in during obvious passing downs. This would seemingly mean no Tamba Hali, or other pass rushing ends in the first. I'm not so sure that's a good move. I think we need speed and potential playmaking coming off of the right side, not what Hicks and Bell have produced so far.

It appears we may go safety or wide receiver in the first.

Bowser
03-04-2006, 10:23 AM
I meant left end.

RedThat
03-04-2006, 10:25 AM
Ah man.....I was hoping we'd cut Bell.

Reading this article was just not good. I'm tired of seeing this organization always trying to do the improbables! And on top of it use excuses to back it up! :cuss:

i.e., convert safeties into cornerbacks.....now convert a LBer into a rush end? WTF man? Just admit it Gunther, you have a boner for the guy. Your using all the excuses to mask the fact that he is not a GOOD football player. And don't try to show people and tell us how you're going to use Bell....just to make up for the fact that you're wrong. It was a move Gunther on your part, and don't try to make yourself look like a genious because you're not.

Can't we do things a little more simplistic? Like, drafting a natural pass rushing end in the 1st round? rather than having to ask a LBer to do things out of the ordinary? :shake:

CoMoChief
03-04-2006, 10:36 AM
Yeah I kinda thought Gun was FOS whenever I read this article. If his shoulder hurt so damn bad to where he could hardly play then why the hell did we even sign the guy?

CoMoChief
03-04-2006, 10:43 AM
As far as the draft goes, I know we need help on the DL, but doesnt anyone think that we should take the best defensive guy out there if he's there? What if Tye Hill drops to us, probably not but no one thought DJ would drop to 15. I know its 5 more picks down the chart but who knows? I wouldnt mind having Greenwood either or what about that LB from Penn St?

milkman
03-04-2006, 11:01 AM
As far as the draft goes, I know we need help on the DL, but doesnt anyone think that we should take the best defensive guy out there if he's there? What if Tye Hill drops to us, probably not but no one thought DJ would drop to 15. I know its 5 more picks down the chart but who knows? I wouldnt mind having Greenwood either or what about that LB from Penn St?

At number 20, there are going to be a lot of good players to pick from.

Guys that might be there include Hali, Bunkley, Cromartie, Tye Hill, Gabe Watson, Chad Jackson.

If Hali and Hill, or Bunkley and Hill are there, I want Hali or Bunkley.

The defense needs to be fixed up front.

It's no coincidence that the D has sucked for years.

Bowser
03-04-2006, 11:03 AM
At number 20, there are going to be a lot of good players to pick from.

Guys that might be there include Hali, Bunkley, Cromartie, Tye Hill, Gabe Watson, Chad Jackson.

If Hali and Hill, or Bunkley and Hill are there, I want Hali or Bunkley.

The defense needs to be fixed up front.

It's no coincidence that the D has sucked for years.

According to Gun, the defense up front will be fixed when we move Bell to rushbacker.

I'd almost put money on us taking Jackson at #20.

milkman
03-04-2006, 11:14 AM
According to Gun, the defense up front will be fixed when we move Bell to rushbacker.

I'd almost put money on us taking Jackson at #20.

You know, I'd be willing to give up the first round pick, if it mean't getting rid of Gunt.

phxchief
03-04-2006, 11:20 AM
So, are we getting a first round pick preview here? If this article and what Gun says is 100% accurate, we are going to keep Eric Hicks at right end while rotating Bell in during obvious passing downs. This would seemingly mean no Tamba Hali, or other pass rushing ends in the first. I'm not so sure that's a good move. I think we need speed and potential playmaking coming off of the right side, not what Hicks and Bell have produced so far.

It appears we may go safety or wide receiver in the first.

I don't think it "means" anything.

Our pick will totally depend on value. DE may be behind positions like DT, S, CB and even WR, but I suspect that if a talent like Hali falls, he'll be hard to pass up (unless an equal talent elsewhere falls, like Jimmy Williams at corner).

Brock
03-04-2006, 11:35 AM
Oh. You mean they're going to do with Bell what they should have done all along?

I don't see how this is bad news.

B_Ambuehl
03-04-2006, 12:20 PM
Bell rushed the quarterback from the outside plenty of times and showed why these comments by Gun are just bullshit hype. He's an interior gap rusher not an outside DE type..... Doesnt' have the build to generate much leverage coming around the outside and lacks lateral quickness....straight on he's like a rocket but don't ask this guy to move laterally.

melbar
03-04-2006, 12:31 PM
Bell should be moved inside, and Mitchell moved out. Mitchell is more speed and finesse anyway

phxchief
03-04-2006, 12:37 PM
Bell rushed the quarterback from the outside plenty of times and showed why these comments by Gun are just bullshit hype. He's an interior gap rusher not an outside DE type..... Doesnt' have the build to generate much leverage coming around the outside and lacks lateral quickness....straight on he's like a rocket but don't ask this guy to move laterally.

Good post.

Agree on all counts. Bell showed in small doses against Miami why he'd be a good pass rusher from the interior, shooting the gaps and getting past slower interior OL..... he showed on too many other occasions why he's not good coming off the edge against the quicker, more technically sound tackles.

He struggled to get any leverage and was totally owned unless he got to the outside first.

phxchief
03-04-2006, 12:39 PM
Bell should be moved inside, and Mitchell moved out. Mitchell is more speed and finesse anyway

Kind of agree but it might be a bit risky.

We seem to have found a pretty good player at MLB now in Mitchell.

Is it worth the risk of losing that to: (1) see what he can do at OLB, and (2) see what Bell can do at MLB?

Best case scenario is that Bell lights it up inside whilst the transition from MLB to OLB goes well for Mitchell.

Unfortunately, I could see Bell sucking inside and Mitchell struggling on the outside (though he IS definitely more fluent in coverage where Bell struggled).

CoMoChief
03-04-2006, 12:44 PM
Bell should be moved inside, and Mitchell moved out. Mitchell is more speed and finesse anyway


We need to run the 3-4 defense and have both Bell and Mitchell on the inside. Its just too bad that we dont have the Dline to make that happen.

keg in kc
03-04-2006, 12:51 PM
Oh. You mean they're going to do with Bell what they should have done all along?

I don't see how this is bad news.Yeah.

Well, at least it only took them a year to figure it out. They're getting better. It took them three years to figure out Robinson's best role.

tiptap
03-04-2006, 05:51 PM
We need to run the 3-4 defense and have both Bell and Mitchell on the inside. Its just too bad that we dont have the Dline to make that happen.

We go over this again and again. We simply do not have the personnel to run a 3-4 as our base defense. The tackles are too small and the Lb aren't big enough. If you average the weight of tackles on 3-4 teams they average 10 lb heavier than 4-3 tackles. (That is why those Adam like 340 NT are at a premium and necessity.) The three down lineman have to take on two blockers to free up the LB. They tend to be bigger too to take on lineman blockers at the point of attack. Again to make up the difference in mass of having one less man on the line, the LB tend to be larger to make up the mass difference.

Running a Falcon on third true passing downs is one thing but running a base 3-4 is out of the question for this team.

Mecca
03-04-2006, 06:13 PM
Ah man.....I was hoping we'd cut Bell.

Reading this article was just not good. I'm tired of seeing this organization always trying to do the improbables! And on top of it use excuses to back it up! :cuss:

i.e., convert safeties into cornerbacks.....now convert a LBer into a rush end? WTF man? Just admit it Gunther, you have a boner for the guy. Your using all the excuses to mask the fact that he is not a GOOD football player. And don't try to show people and tell us how you're going to use Bell....just to make up for the fact that you're wrong. It was a move Gunther on your part, and don't try to make yourself look like a genious because you're not.

Can't we do things a little more simplistic? Like, drafting a natural pass rushing end in the 1st round? rather than having to ask a LBer to do things out of the ordinary? :shake:

Ok I'm gonna use an analogy with Bell here....he was good in college and with the NFL team he was on before ours. Say I have a machine it works great, I give it to my friend and it once again works great. Then we give it to you and all of the sudden it's screwed up and not working right..............What would you think?

Fruit Ninja
03-04-2006, 06:16 PM
yeah, NO ****ING 3-4. people continue to wanna press this, and we dont have the people to play it. Just becuase the 3-4 has been good for some teams, does not mean we can just go in there and run it with the deadbeat Dline we have.

Count Zarth
03-04-2006, 07:14 PM
Bell rushed the quarterback from the outside plenty of times and showed why these comments by Gun are just bullshit hype. .

Yep. It's just more "propaguntha."