Cheney Less Popular than O.J.

[banyon]

How low can Cheney go?


By RICHARD MORIN
The Washington Post


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March 07. 2006 8:00AM


These must be sobering days for Vice President Dick Cheney as he reflects on recent events from his secret Fortress of Solitude.

Iraq teeters on the brink of civil war. The Bush agenda is in tatters. And one of his friends is recovering from an accidental gunshot wound inflicted by Cheney on a hunting trip.

The latest CBS News poll found that only 18 percent of the public has a favorable view of Cheney. How bad is a rating of 18 percent?

According to a quick review of polling archives, it arguably makes Cheney:

Less popular than singer Michael Jackson, bedmate of little boys and world-class screwball. One in four Americans - 25 percent - told Gallup polltakers last June they were still Jackson fans after the onetime King of Pop was found not guilty of child molesting.

Less popular than former football star O.J. Simpson was after his arrest and trial for murdering his estranged wife and her companion. Three in 10 -29 percent - of all Americans had a favorable view of Simpson in an October 1995 Gallup poll.
Less popular with Americans than Joseph Stalin is with Russians.

In 2003, fully 20 percent said Stalin, blamed for millions of deaths in the former Soviet Union during the 1930s and 1940s, was a "wise and humane" leader. Thirty-one percent also said they wouldn't object if Uncle Joe came back to rule again, according to surveys conducted by Russian pollsters.

Much less popular than former Vice President Spiro Agnew in his final days in office. Forty-five percent approved of the job that Agnew was doing as President Richard Nixon's veep in a Gallup Poll conducted in August 1973, little more than a month before Agnew resigned and pleaded no contest to a criminal tax evasion charge arising from a bribery investigation.

Far less popular than former New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey days after he announced in August 2004 that he had engaged in an extramarital affair with a man and would resign.

But take heart, Dick. About 35 percent of those interviewed by the CBS poll didn't offer an opinion of you. Perhaps some of your supporters were shy. And other polls released later in the week pegged your popularity considerably higher.

Besides, even at 18 percent you're not the least popular public figure in America.

You're slightly better liked than that fabulously blond and brainless party girl Paris Hilton.

She was viewed favorably last June by 15 percent of the public, according to Gallup.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/03/AR2006030302045.html

[banyon]

doesn't this trouble you, patteeu?

[Lurch]

He's VP....does anyone really care?

[patteeu]

doesn't this trouble you, patteeu?

Of course it does. Anytime 82% of the public gets something this wrong, it's troubling. I'm going to attribute this to the failure of our public schools.

[Reaper16]

They didn't prove OJ stabbed her, but we do know that Cheney shot him.
LOL

[Frankie]

He's VP....does anyone really care?
He's VP? Could have foolled me. I thought Duhbya was VP! :hmmm:

[banyon]

Of course it does. Anytime 82% of the public gets something this wrong, it's troubling. I'm going to attribute this to the failure of our public schools.


Our public schools are supposed to teach our kids how great Cheney is?

No, that's called church.

[Adept Havelock]

Our public schools are supposed to teach our kids how great Cheney is?

No, that's called church.
:clap:

Nice.

[patteeu]

Our public schools are supposed to teach our kids how great Cheney is?

No, that's called church.

ROFL

Cheney's never struck me as too much of a bible beater though. He and Lynne seem to be pretty comfortable with the fact that their daughter is gay, for example, even if they don't sing about it from the rooftops.

[SBK]

ROFL

Cheney's never struck me as too much of a bible beater though. He and Lynne seem to be pretty comfortable with the fact that their daughter is gay, for example, even if they don't sing about it from the rooftops.

Cheney has a gay daughter? I guess I had forgotten since Kerry slid back out of the spotlight.

[patteeu]

Cheney has a gay daughter? I guess I had forgotten since Kerry slid back out of the spotlight.

LOL. Here's a April 2004 bio from The Gay and Lesbian Times (http://www.gaylesbiantimes.com/?id=2431&issue=851):

Mary Cheney is one of two daughters of Vice President Dick Cheney. A 35-year-old lesbian who resides in Colorado with her long-time partner, Mary Cheney has worked on gay issues and on her father’s 2000 vice presidential campaign, and currently spends a large part of her time in Washington working as a close aide to her father.

After President Bush’s recent speech calling for an amendment to the U.S. Constitution banning same-sex marriage, Mary Cheney became the target of gay and lesbian activist organizations urging her to speak out against the administration’s anti-gay views, rather than working silently in support of them. Much of the effort is organized at the website, www.dearmary.com, a project of DontAmend.com and the Equality Campaign, Inc.

After graduating from Colorado College, Cheney went to work as a gay community liaison for Coors Brewing Company, where she was instrumental in ending a 20-year boycott by the gay community of that company. Cheney left Coors in 2000 to work with her father and the Bush campaign. In 2002, Mary Cheney served on the advisory board of the Republican Unity Coalition, a gay-straight alliance formed within the Republican party to help increase tolerance within the party for gays and lesbians, and others.

Cheney currently receives a paycheck of $2,776 every two weeks, for her role as the head of her father’s campaign team. Mary Cheney remains close to her family by all accounts, and has been off limits to reporters throughout the same-sex marriage debate.

[go bowe]

$2,776 every two weeks?

who'da thunk cheneyburton would be so cheap with his own daughter?

[CRONUS]

Of course it does. Anytime 82% of the public gets something this wrong, it's troubling. I'm going to attribute this to the failure of our public schools.ROFL

Now that was a genuinely funny line.

[Loki]

$2,776 every two weeks?

who'da thunk cheneyburton would be so cheap with his own daughter?

she doesn't get the extra "hazardous duty" pay because she never
goes hunting with her father...
:rolleyes:

(que comedy drum tap)
ba-dum-dum

[Ugly Duck]

The latest CBS News poll found that only 18 percent of the public has a favorable view of Cheney. We'd better lighten up on the guy. He might just say fuggit, resign for "health" reasons, and cash in his Halliburton stock. He said he would give it to charity, but sometimes he doesn't tell the truth. If he cashes in instead - whats the worst that could happen? His rating maybe goes down to 14%? Dems need these unpopular bozos to stay right where they unless somehow an impeachment gets rolling. The WH Stooges are the best recruiting tools we have right now.

[Loki]

Cheney has a gay daughter? I guess I had forgotten since Kerry slid back out of the spotlight.

don't you worry... kerry is still kickin' it like a pack of ninjas (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2105076&postcount=202).

[patteeu]

$2,776 every two weeks?

who'da thunk cheneyburton would be so cheap with his own daughter?

It's good money when your only responsibility is to avoid talking to the media. ;)

[patteeu]

We'd better lighten up on the guy. He might just say fuggit, resign for "health" reasons, and cash in his Halliburton stock. He said he would give it to charity, but sometimes he doesn't tell the truth. If he cashes in instead - whats the worst that could happen? His rating maybe goes down to 14%? Dems need these unpopular bozos to stay right where they unless somehow an impeachment gets rolling. The WH Stooges are the best recruiting tools we have right now.

That greedy bastard, Cheney, just gave $2.7 mil (http://www.dailycolonial.com/go.dc?p=3&s=2393) to the hospital that has treated him for his heart condition on several occasions.

[Adept Havelock]

That greedy bastard, Cheney, just gave $2.7 mil (http://www.dailycolonial.com/go.dc?p=3&s=2393) to the hospital that has treated him for his heart condition on several occasions.

If I was as unpopular as that greedy bastard I'd spread around some insurance money too. If only to make sure some LWNJ doctor didn't put ideology in front of the Hippocratic oath. ;)

[banyon]

Gee, he picked a charity, like all rich people, to use as a tax write-off.

And one so "close to his heart"

[kcfanintitanhell]

Gee, he picked a charity, like all rich people, to use as a tax write-off.

And one so "close to his heart"

Amen to that. I would be very interested what % of that 2.7 mil actually came out of his pocket. I would be willing to wager the American taxpayer contributed a slight percentage of that.

[Boozer]

Amen to that. I would be very interested what % of that 2.7 mil actually came out of his pocket. I would be willing to wager the American taxpayer contributed a slight percentage of that.

Well, if he used his entire salary for 2005 to make the contribution, it's about 15% of the total.

[patteeu]

Gee, he picked a charity, like all rich people, to use as a tax write-off.

And one so "close to his heart"

Those bad rich people. :shake:

[patteeu]

I would be willing to wager the American taxpayer contributed a slight percentage of that.

Huh? Are you talking about the tax deduction that all taxpayers would get for making that donation?

[go bowe]

Huh? Are you talking about the tax deduction that all taxpayers would get for making that donation?only if you itemize... :( :( :(

[banyon]

Well, if he used his entire salary for 2005 to make the contribution, it's about 15% of the total.

Undoubtedly Cheney had other income as well from investments that likely dwarfs his salary. I'm sure it's all wrapped up in blind trusts or whatever.

[BIG_DADDY]

Which just goes to show the pathetic level lefties are willing to go to in order to clown the right. Who wants to be a part of that?

[Eye Patch]

The trouble with lefties is they love humanity…. It’s people they hate.

[banyon]

Which just goes to show the pathetic level lefties are willing to go to in order to clown the right. Who wants to be a part of that?

Oh, yeah, the right does not engage in ridiculing the left. :shake:

[patteeu]

only if you itemize... :( :( :(

Ha, true, but anyone not itemizing after making a $2.7 mil charitable contribution needs a new accountant.

[BIG_DADDY]

Oh, yeah, the right does not engage in ridiculing the left. :shake:

It's the level they are willing to go to. I don't like the right much more than you but I don't remember any OJ comparisons. I wasn't for the war in Iraq and at this point I believe we need a plan besides stay the course to get the **** out but comparing Cheny to OJ is over the top and what I have began to expect form the left. It would be so easy for the left to not only win but stay in power for sometime after this administration but it will never happen because the left has became nothing more than a bunch of bloody ****ing boxes.

[CRONUS]

Undoubtedly Cheney had other income as well from investments that likely dwarfs his salary. I'm sure it's all wrapped up in blind trusts or whatever.I am just curious what salary you are talking about, surely not the VP salary. In 2003 Cheney made only $198,600 as VP.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/fedprssal.html

[patteeu]

I am just curious what salary you are talking about, surely not the VP salary. In 2003 Cheney made only $198,600 as VP.

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/fedprssal.html

I think he's acknowledging that his salary is a small fraction of that donation, but that Cheney probably received other income including investment income (dividends, interest, and capital gains), his wife's income, and maybe even deferred compensation from his days at Haliburton that boosted his total annual net worth increase well above that $198,600 figure. I think he's right about that although I'd point out that no one has ever gotten richer by giving money to charity for the tax deduction. IOW, it was still a charitable thing to do on Cheney's part.

[banyon]

It's the level they are willing to go to. I don't like the right much more than you but I don't remember any OJ comparisons. I wasn't for the war in Iraq and at this point I believe we need a plan besides stay the course to get the **** out but comparing Cheny to OJ is over the top and what I have began to expect form the left. It would be so easy for the left to not only win but stay in power for sometime after this administration but it will never happen because the left has became nothing more than a bunch of bloody ****ing boxes.

The comparison was about how popular Cheney is. It's unusual for a politician to be so low and they had to look to infamous celebrities for comparison's sake. With those polling numbers, there really isn't anybody else to compare him to.

As for the left being worse, do they go to a level lower than Ann Coulter? Here are some snippets for your viewing pleasure (or displeasure as the case may be).

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

"I think, on the basis of the recent Supreme Court ruling that we can't execute the retarded, American journalists commit mass murder without facing the ultimate penalty," Ms. Coulter told me. "I think they are retarded. I'm trying to communicate to the American people and I have to work through a retarded person!"

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

"We're now at the point that it's beyond whether or not [Bill Clinton] is a horny hick. I really think it's a question of his mental stability. He really could be a lunatic. I think it is a rational question for Americans to ask whether their president is insane."


Oh, but she's just being witty. What a clever chick. :rolleyes:

[BIG_DADDY]

The comparison was about how popular Cheney is. It's unusual for a politician to be so low and they had to look to infamous celebrities for comparison's sake. With those polling numbers, there really isn't anybody else to compare him to.

As for the left being worse, do they go to a level lower than Ann Coulter? Here are some snippets for your viewing pleasure (or displeasure as the case may be).










Oh, but she's just being witty. What a clever chick. :rolleyes:

3rd and 4th are out of line. Maybe it's just me living in California but I seem to hear and see way more out wacked out statements coming from the left.

[Duck Dog]

Dear CP DC Forum,

I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than go riding with Ted Kennedy.


Sincerely,

The Family of Mary Jo Kopechne

[Adept Havelock]

3rd and 4th are out of line. Maybe it's just me living in California but I seem to hear and see way more out wacked out statements coming from the left.

Or, you just pay more attention to them because it supports preconcieved notions and a point of view you want to belive in.

That's just human nature.

BD, for what it's worth, I agree with you on a number of your points. Even the ones I disagee with, you usually make a decent case. Have a good night.

[Reaper16]

We all know that Ann Coulter's schtick is a joke. She's making a lot of money off of her character.