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banyon
03-09-2006, 12:27 PM
3/6/06 - Kurt Vonnegut's "Stardust Memory"
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Harvey Wasserman
Columbus Free Press (Ohio)

On a cold, cloudy night, the lines threaded all the way around the Ohio State campus. News that Kurt Vonnegut was speaking at the Ohio Union prompted these “apathetic” heartland college students to start lining up in the early afternoon. About 2,000 got in to the Ohio Union. At least that many more were turned away. It was the biggest crowd for a speaker here since Michael Moore.


In an age dominated by hype and sex, neither Moore nor Vonnegut seems a likely candidate to rock a campus whose biggest news has been the men’s and women’s basketball teams’ joint assault on Big Ten championships.

But maybe there’s more going on here than Fox wants us to think.

Vonnegut takes an easy chair across from Prof. Manuel Luis Martinez, a poet and teacher of writing. He grabs Martinez and semi-whispers into his ear (and the mike) “What can I say here?”

Martinez urges candor.

“Well,” says Vonnegut, “I just want to say that George W. Bush is the syphilis president.”

The students seem to agree.

“The only difference between Bush and Hitler,” Vonnegut adds, “is that Hitler was elected.”

“You all know, of course, that the election was stolen. Right here.”

Off to a flying start, Vonnegut explains that this will be his “last speech for money.” He can’t remember the first one, but it was on a campus long, long ago, and this will be the end.

The students are hushed with the prospect of the final appearance of America’s greatest living novelist. Alongside Mark Twain and Ben Franklin, Will Rogers and Joseph Heller and a very short list of immortal satirists and storytellers, there stands Kurt Vonnegut, author of SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE and SIRENS OF TITAN, CAT’S CRADLE and GOD BLESS YOU, MR. ROSEWATER, books these students are studying now, as did their parents, as will their children and grandchildren, with a deeply felt mixture of gratitude and awe.

Nobody tonight seems to think they were in for a detached, scholarly presentation from a disengaged academic genius coasting on his incomparable laurels

“I’m lucky enough to have known a great president, one who really cared about ALL the people, rich and poor. That was Franklin D. Roosevelt. He was rich himself, and his class considered him a traitor.

“We have people in this country who are richer than whole countries,” he says. “They run everything.

“We have no Democratic Party. It’s financed by the same millionaires and billionaires as the Republicans.

“So we have no representatives in Washington. Working people have no leverage whatsoever.

“I’m trying to write a novel about the end of the world. But the world is really ending! It’s becoming more and more uninhabitable because of our addiction to oil.

“Bush used that line recently,” Vonnegut adds. “I should sue him for plagiarism.”

Things have gotten so bad, he says, “people are in revolt again life itself.”

Our economy has been making money, but “all the money that should have gone into research and development has gone into executive compensation. If people insist on living as if there’s no tomorrow, there really won’t be one.

“As the world is ending, I’m always glad to be entertained for a few moments. The best way to do that is with music. You should practice once a night.

“If you want really want to hurt your parents and don’t want to be gay, go into the arts,” he says.

Then he breaks into song, doing a passable, tender rendition of “Stardust Memories.”

By this time this packed hall has grown reverential. The sound system is appropriately tenuous. Straining to hear every word is both an effort and a meditation.

“To hell with the advances in computers,” he says after he finishes singing. “YOU are supposed to advance and become, not the computers. Find out what’s inside you. And don’t kill anybody.

“There are no factories any more. Where are the jobs supposed to come from? There’s nothing for people to do anymore. We need to ask the Seminoles: ‘what the hell did you do?’’ after the tribe’s traditional livelihood was taken away.

Answering questions written in by students, he explains the meaning of life. “We should be kind to each other. Be civil. And appreciate the good moments by saying ‘If this isn’t nice, what is?’

“You’re awful cute” he says to someone in the front row. He grins and looks around. “If this isn’t nice, what is?

“You’re all perfectly safe, by the way. I took off my shoes at the airport. The terrorists hate the smell of feet.

“We are here on Earth to fart around,” he explains, and then embarks on a soliloquy about the joys of going to the store to buy an envelope. One talks to the people there, comments on the “silly-looking dog,” finds all sorts of adventures along the way.

As for being a midwesterner, he recalls his roots in nearby Indianapolis, a heartland town, the next one west of here. “I’m a fresh water person. When I swim in the ocean, I feel like I’m swimming in chicken soup. Who wants to swim in flavored water?”

A key to great writing, he adds, is to “never use semi-colons. What are they good for? What are you supposed to do with them? You’re reading along, and then suddenly, there it is. What does it mean? All semi-colons do is suggest you’ve been to college.”

Make sure, he adds, “that your reader is having a good time. Get to the who, when, where, what right away, so the reader knows what is going on.”

As for making money, “war is a very profitable thing for a few people. Jesus used to be so merciful and loving of the poor. But now he’s a Republican.

“Our economy today is not capitalism. It’s casino-ism. That’s all the stock market is about. Gambling.

“Live one day at a time. Say ‘if this isn’t nice, I don’t know what is!’

“You meet saints every where. They can be anywhere. They are people behaving decently in an indecent society.

“I’m going to sue the cigarette companies because they haven’t killed me,” he says. His son lived out his dream to be a pilot and has spent his career flying for Continental. Now they’ve “screwed up his pension.”

The greatest peace, Vonnegut wraps up, “comes from the knowledge that I have enough. Joe Heller told me that.

“I began writing because I found myself possessed. I looked at what I wrote and I said ‘How the hell did I do that?’

“We may all be possessed. I hope so.”

He accepts the students’ standing ovation with characteristic dignity and grace. Not a few tears flow from young people with the wisdom to appreciate what they are seeing. “If this isn’t nice, we don’t know what is.”

Not long ago we spoke on the phone. I asked Kurt how he was. “Too ****ing old,” he replied.

Maybe so. But the mind and soul are still there, powerful and penetrating as ever. Just as they’ll ever be in his books and stories and the precious records of his wonderful talks.

Thankfully, Kurt Vonnegut is still possessed by the genius of seeing and describing the world as only Kurt Vonnegut can.

He is still sharp and clear, full of love and life and light. May he be with us yet for a long long time to come.

Harvey Wasserman read CAT’S CRADLE, SIRENS OF TITAN and SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE in college, sought Boku-Maru, and has never been the same.

http://peaceandjustice.org/article.php?story=20060306090609596

banyon
03-09-2006, 12:41 PM
gee, he kind of makes some of the rest of us look at least a little rational.

Baby Lee
03-09-2006, 12:49 PM
Vonnegut is a talented writer. If the aim is make Vonnegut look good, Wasserman, . . . is not.

It would have been just as inspiring if he'd written, "Some old dude yakked at some kids today, and they really enjoyed it."

vailpass
03-09-2006, 12:54 PM
Very cool read.
Vonnegut is a founding member of the International Writer's Workshop at the University of Iowa in Iowa City.
I was fortunate enough to hear him speak when I was a freshman.
Whether you agree or disagree with his views his intellect and sincerity are humbling.

banyon
03-09-2006, 12:55 PM
Vonnegut is a talented writer. If the aim is make Vonnegut look good, Wasserman, . . . is not.

It would have been just as inspiring if he'd written, "Some old dude yakked at some kids today, and they really enjoyed it."

He's looking kind of old. This photo is 7 years old.

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/v/vonnegut_kurt/Vonnegut.jpg

He's 84. I wonder if he's lost it?

Eye Patch
03-09-2006, 01:12 PM
“I began writing because I found myself possessed. I looked at what I wrote and I said ‘How the hell did I do that?’



maybe it was from the four way hit of Sunshine acid....????

gblowfish
03-09-2006, 01:32 PM
"Kurt Vonnegut hates our freedom. Off to Gitmo, do not pass go."
Bill O'Reilly & the other Fox Nazis.

Eye Patch
03-09-2006, 01:52 PM
Off to Gitmo, do not pass go."
Bill O'Reilly & the other Fox Nazis.

Gitmo, O'Reilly, Fox, Nazis....

You got all of the dem talking points in two short sentences.

congratulations.... you can now run for chairman of the DNC.

HC_Chief
03-09-2006, 01:54 PM
Wow, KV is one loonie f*cker

Brock
03-09-2006, 02:01 PM
Didn't he used to be some kind of writer?

Baby Lee
03-09-2006, 02:23 PM
"Our economy has been making money, but “all the money that should have gone into research and development has gone into executive compensation. If people insist on living as if there’s no tomorrow, there really won’t be one."
“If you want really want to hurt your parents and don’t want to be gay, go into the arts,”
“To hell with the advances in computers,” he says after he finishes singing. “YOU are supposed to advance and become, not the computers. Find out what’s inside you. And don’t kill anybody."
Did anyone find a coherence in this succession of thoughts?

patteeu
03-09-2006, 02:35 PM
“Well,” says Vonnegut, “I just want to say that George W. Bush is the syphilis president.”

...

“The only difference between Bush and Hitler,” Vonnegut adds, “is that Hitler was elected.”

...

"Be civil."

...


Holy shit, that's some deep thinking right there. On the surface, it almost seems hypocritical to a simpleton like myself.

Cochise
03-09-2006, 02:55 PM
gee, he kind of makes some of the rest of us look at least a little rational.

Not really.


Gitmo, O'Reilly, Fox, Nazis....

You got all of the dem talking points in two short sentences.

congratulations.... you can now run for chairman of the DNC.


If trite, nonsensical attempts at witticism are not your fare, you may want to ignore gblowhard.

CRONUS
03-09-2006, 03:22 PM
Our economy has been making money, but “all the money that should have gone into research and development has gone into executive compensation. If people insist on living as if there’s no tomorrow, there really won’t be one.

Kurt is pretty radical but the point above is very, very true.

banyon
03-09-2006, 03:26 PM
If trite, nonsensical attempts at witticism are not your fare, you may want to ignore gblowhard.

Are you really bagging on gblowfish for "trite, nonsensical attempts at witticism"? AFAICT, that's the only time you show up here is to lay one of those on us.

CRONUS
03-09-2006, 03:29 PM
Did anyone find a coherence in this succession of thoughts?

Seems pretty understandable to me.

"Our economy has been making money, but “all the money that should have gone into research and development has gone into executive compensation. If people insist on living as if there’s no tomorrow, there really won’t be one."

Our future is being compromised by the greed of management over investment in the future.

“If you want really want to hurt your parents and don’t want to be gay, go into the arts,”

If your goal is to rebel, then pursue the arts that is the best forum to achieve rebellion.

“To hell with the advances in computers,” he says after he finishes singing. “YOU are supposed to advance and become, not the computers. Find out what’s inside you. And don’t kill anybody."

Improve yourself, apply yourself, don't rely on computers to come up with all the advancement in society. Peole are still important.

CRONUS
03-09-2006, 03:32 PM
Holy shit, that's some deep thinking right there. On the surface, it almost seems hypocritical to a simpleton like myself.No question he was in rant mode about Bush, and was not being civil. However, I think you have pulled the civility comment so out of context that you distort the message.

Baby Lee
03-09-2006, 03:34 PM
Seems pretty understandable to me.
OIC, "my advice for a happy life is to bitch about what productive people do with their money, while you devote your considerable ambitions to fluancing around a community theatre stage."

:thumb: :p

Reaper16
03-09-2006, 03:57 PM
OIC, "my advice for a happy life is to bitch about what productive people do with their money, while you devote your considerable ambitions to fluancing around a community theatre stage."

:thumb: :p
That's what I do, and it works for me!

CRONUS
03-09-2006, 05:35 PM
OIC, "my advice for a happy life is to bitch about what productive people do with their money, while you devote your considerable ambitions to fluancing around a community theatre stage."

:thumb: :pflaunting or flouncing?

So you don't have a problem with the lack of IR&D in the US economy these days?

Baby Lee
03-09-2006, 05:38 PM
flaunting or flouncing?

So you don't have a problem with the lack of IR&D in the US economy these days?
Duh! I was obviously turning the speaker company Fluance in a verb. :banghead: :banghead:

And if I did have a problem with R&D efforts, I wouldn't bitch about it, then devote my life to become Lord of the Dance. :p

Adept Havelock
03-09-2006, 05:41 PM
Good old Kurt. I could care less about his politics, but he is a hell of a good writer.

Harrison Bergeron...one of the greatest short stories ever.

Reaper16
03-09-2006, 06:53 PM
Good old Kurt. I could care less about his politics, but he is a hell of a good writer.

Harrison Bergeron...one of the greatest short stories ever.
Hell yeah, it is.

gblowfish
03-09-2006, 07:22 PM
Are you really bagging on gblowfish for "trite, nonsensical attempts at witticism"? AFAICT, that's the only time you show up here is to lay one of those on us.That's OK, man. My wife doesn't think I'm funny either. She tells me so all the time.

For sake of clarity, I'm sorry I called the Fox people "Nazis." I apologize.
My bad.

Actually they're imperialists.

BTW: How much does tha DNC Chair job pay? I could really use the money.

|Zach|
03-09-2006, 07:25 PM
Very cool read.
Vonnegut is a founding member of the International Writer's Workshop at the University of Iowa in Iowa City.
I was fortunate enough to hear him speak when I was a freshman.
Whether you agree or disagree with his views his intellect and sincerity are humbling.
Cool experience.

I felt pretty lucky to hear Moises Kauffman speak around here. But thats another thread for another time.

Radar Chief
03-10-2006, 08:57 AM
Are you really bagging on gblowfish for "trite, nonsensical attempts at witticism"? AFAICT, that's the only time you show up here is to lay one of those on us.

Maybe you should try read’n more of’is posts then. :shrug: Cochise, like me, may not have the time to opine every subject, but when he does offer’is opinion he’s very honest ‘bout it.

Radar Chief
03-10-2006, 09:18 AM
Trent Reznor agrees. (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1503082/20050527/nine_inch_nails.jhtml?headlines=true) Course he also said, “You think you’re having all the fun, you know me, I HATE EVERYONE!”
So, ya know. :shrug: ROFL