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chiefqueen
03-12-2006, 04:52 PM
I know it's ten minutes awat but the KC area probably won't get to see it b/c of severe weather.

We need a blow-by-blow.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 04:56 PM
Good luck on the bad weather...which teams in particular are you watching for? Mizzou???

Sure-Oz
03-12-2006, 05:00 PM
theres like 3 threads on this i think

beer bacon
03-12-2006, 05:01 PM
I am keeping my fingers crossed that Mizzou can still sneak in!

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:01 PM
U on THIS one to help or not? :)

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Duke #1 overall in Atl.

DJay23
03-12-2006, 05:02 PM
It's Christmas morning kids! TIme to open the presents!

OldTownChief
03-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Is there a Chiefs Planet Yahoo Bracket this year?

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:03 PM
Uconn in Washington , Nova, Memphis in Oakland. (missed Nova)

SLAG
03-12-2006, 05:03 PM
What channel is the selection show on/

JBucc
03-12-2006, 05:03 PM
CBS

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:04 PM
CBS as always...they have exclusive rights.

SPchief
03-12-2006, 05:04 PM
Is there a Chiefs Planet Yahoo Bracket this year?


Yes

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=136811

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Now they will draw this out for another hour.....

OldTownChief
03-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Yes

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=136811


Thanks SP.

SPchief
03-12-2006, 05:07 PM
No problem

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:10 PM
GW dropped to a #8 seed with only 2 losses.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:11 PM
Syracuse with FIVE SEED!!! Wow at Texas A/M

jspchief
03-12-2006, 05:11 PM
Syracuse worker their way up to a 5?

Suprising.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:11 PM
Texas #2 against Penn

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:12 PM
GW vs. Duke in the 2nd round would be insane. GW has a team that could run with them.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Cal (who KU beat) #7 seed,

jspchief
03-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Woohoo!!!!

Iowa gets a 3 seed!!!

the Talking Can
03-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Syracuse at 5 is a total joke.

A&M will win

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:14 PM
West Virginia vs. Southern Illinois will be a great game. Bizarre bracket. Duke might be in a dogfight starting with the 2nd round.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Gottlieb the announcer for CBS "questioned" Texas A&M getting in..."all they beat was Texas. That win single handedly got them in."


NO way...A/M is pretty good in my books.

chief4life
03-12-2006, 05:16 PM
ok what seed is KU anyone? or we dont know yet

SLAG
03-12-2006, 05:16 PM
ok what seed is KU anyone? or we dont know yet

#4

Thig Lyfe
03-12-2006, 05:17 PM
C'mon DeVry!!!1

the Talking Can
03-12-2006, 05:17 PM
if 'Cuse is a 5 then KU is a 3....if only we lived on the east coast

OldTownChief
03-12-2006, 05:17 PM
Wichita State seeded yet?

DJay23
03-12-2006, 05:17 PM
Gottlieb the announcer for CBS "questioned" Texas A&M getting in..."all they beat was Texas. That win single handedly got them in."


NO way...A/M is pretty good in my books.
It's kinda true. They played absolutely NO ONE in the non-con. They did come on strong at the end of the year though. They look like a tough team which is why i think they got in, and why they are paired with 'Cuse.

If Syracuse gets a 5, KU has to be at least a 4.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:18 PM
They have NOT announced KU's seed yet.

beer bacon
03-12-2006, 05:18 PM
Syracuse at 5 is a total joke.

A&M will win

Have you been watching Syracuse? A&M is going to get destroyed.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:19 PM
Oakland bracket....#1 is Memphis @ Oral Roberts.

cdcox
03-12-2006, 05:19 PM
Gottlieb the announcer for CBS "questioned" Texas A&M getting in..."all they beat was Texas. That win single handedly got them in."


NO way...A/M is pretty good in my books.

Big 12 homer.

I will LMAO if bottom dwellers from the Big East oust one of the best of the Big 12.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:19 PM
Pitt got a #5 seed

SPchief
03-12-2006, 05:19 PM
KU a 4 seed

JBucc
03-12-2006, 05:19 PM
Bring on Bucknell!

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:20 PM
KU got a 4 seed...against BRADLEY

beer bacon
03-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Big 12 homer.

I will LMAO if bottom dwellers from the Big East oust one of the best of the Big 12.

I will totally ROOFLELOPPER if they don't.

Thig Lyfe
03-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Watch Bradley beat Kansas...

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:20 PM
KU/Bradley... that should be fun.

chief4life
03-12-2006, 05:20 PM
so we are a 4 playing bradley

i like this bracket we got a break
:)

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:20 PM
KU got a good bracket.....Im happy.

DJay23
03-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Same bracket as Bucknell. Potential Sweet 16 match up.

the Talking Can
03-12-2006, 05:21 PM
Pitt is a 5?
KU a 4 and Syracuse a 5?

what a ****ing joke

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:21 PM
Indiana is IN at #6....wow.

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:22 PM
Wow, Indiana got a great draw I think. I'm shocked they got a 6.

JBucc
03-12-2006, 05:22 PM
Indiana is IN at #6....wow.That's insane

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:22 PM
Pitt is a tough 2nd rounder for KU if they both make it.

chief4life
03-12-2006, 05:23 PM
we can beat memphis pittsburg gonzaga and ucla i think we got a break

look at the other ones we can beat all these teams

Rock CHalk :ku:

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:23 PM
Missouri Valley has 2 teams in so far I believe. SIU and Bradley.

Rudy lost the toss
03-12-2006, 05:24 PM
Alright! A&M could sneak into the sweet 16 with their seed. Syracuse isn't that good and the aggies have a good defensive team capable of shutting down McNamara. As long as Syracuse comes back to earth just a little bit, the aggies should win the game.

Bearcat
03-12-2006, 05:25 PM
Duke and Texas as a quarterfinal... sounds odd.

Lzen
03-12-2006, 05:25 PM
Have you been watching Syracuse? A&M is going to get destroyed.

Umm, I wouldn't be so sure. Have you seen A&M play Texas the last 2 times? They may get beaten, but I doubt it's by very much. I think they have a good shot at being the yearly #12 over #5 upset. ;)

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:26 PM
Alright! A&M could sneak into the sweet 16 with their seed. Syracuse isn't that good and the aggies have a good defensive team capable of shutting down McNamara. As long as Syracuse comes back to earth just a little bit, the aggies should win the game.

I agree with that....'cuse will come down to earth in a hurry.

chief4life
03-12-2006, 05:26 PM
I really think we have an easier bracket so far one is going to have Duke and UNC watch or put texas in there im happy with are bracket

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:27 PM
Bradley was the MVC I was thinking to watch out for... others are more talked about, but Bradley has a future NBA big man and play aggressive man to man D in the half court. When people think of "mid-major" teams, most people think of non-athletic well coached teams, but Bradley I think is pretty athletic, just didn't start to pull it together until the end of the year where they caught fire.

the Talking Can
03-12-2006, 05:27 PM
KU has won 14-15...co-champ in conference...tourny champ, and they are a 4

Syracuse is a 5...

oh well, play hte games...we're going to work Bradley

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:29 PM
Air Force? Gah.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:29 PM
KU has won 14-15...co-champ in conference...tourny champ, and they are a 4

Syracuse is a 5...

oh well, play hte games...we're going to work Bradley

Iwould bet money that the seedings were made up BEFORE KU beat Texas this afternoon.

chief4life
03-12-2006, 05:29 PM
Bradley was the MVC I was thinking to watch out for... others are more talked about, but Bradley has a future NBA big man and play aggressive man to man D in the half court. When people think of "mid-major" teams, most people think of non-athletic well coached teams, but Bradley I think is pretty athletic, just didn't start to pull it together until the end of the year where they caught fire.

KU is the most athletic team in the country and they run man we struggle against zone like i said i think we caught a big break getting are bracket

Thig Lyfe
03-12-2006, 05:29 PM
WSU #7, nice

OldTownChief
03-12-2006, 05:31 PM
WSU #7, nice

What Bracket? Who do they play 1st?

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:31 PM
WSU against Seton Hall

the Talking Can
03-12-2006, 05:32 PM
Tenn higher than Gonzaga?

these guys are stoned

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:33 PM
Yeah...Tenn. a #2 seed????? No way.

Lzen
03-12-2006, 05:33 PM
Iwould bet money that the seedings were made up BEFORE KU beat Texas this afternoon.

Yup, I've been saying that all along. The B12 really needs to consider starting their tourney a day earlier. Or at the very least starting the Champ game at noon.

I think if they hadn't already decided, KU would've been a 3 seed with the tourney final win.

Coach
03-12-2006, 05:33 PM
What Bracket? Who do they play 1st?

Washington DC Bracket, aganist 10 Seton Hall.

ragedogg69
03-12-2006, 05:35 PM
billy read off the wrong region for his review of the seeds. good job douche. atleast we know that the 8/9 will be wisconisin/arizona in the last region.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:35 PM
Yup, I've been saying that all along. The B12 really needs to consider starting their tourney a day earlier. Or at the very least starting the Champ game at noon.

I think if they hadn't already decided, KU would've been a 3 seed with the tourney final win.
Same story every year with the Big 12 championship...no matter WHO wins they dont get full credit for the achievment.

DJay23
03-12-2006, 05:35 PM
Yup, I've been saying that all along. The B12 really needs to consider starting their tourney a day earlier. Or at the very least starting the Champ game at noon.

I think if they hadn't already decided, KU would've been a 3 seed with the tourney final win.
I thought the opposite. I thought we'd be a 5 and with the tourney win jumped to a 4, if indeed they don't have the seedings set by the end of the game.

Mr. Laz
03-12-2006, 05:36 PM
Tenn higher than Gonzaga?

these guys are stoned
how in the holy f**K did tennessee get a #2 seed?



committee did their best to slob all over UNC's schlong too

chief4life
03-12-2006, 05:38 PM
boston college a 4 seed whaaaaaaaaaat omg they got snubbed

the Talking Can
03-12-2006, 05:38 PM
how in the holy f**K did tennessee get a #2 seed?



committee did their best to slob all over UNC's schlong too

they always do

Pitt is a tough 5 seed, should be a 4...seeding them same as Syracuse is insane...we got jobbed

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:39 PM
Air Force is going to get bent over by the analysts... a lot of teams got snubbed for them.

Coach
03-12-2006, 05:40 PM
And SMS gets left out.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:41 PM
Are these the same people who run the BCS?????

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 05:42 PM
And SMS gets left out.

Zach's gonna be bummed. :(

Mr. Laz
03-12-2006, 05:43 PM
missouris state got screwed ... no way should air force make it and MS not

|Zach|
03-12-2006, 05:44 PM
Dissapointing...really dissapointing. So many weirdo things happened with conference tourns.

I wouldn't have as much of a prob had it been Cincy or Creighton. But AF? Bullshit.

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:45 PM
They said MS has the highest RPI and got LEFT OUT...21st in RPI ranking is very high.

SPchief
03-12-2006, 05:45 PM
missouris state got screwed ... no way should air force make it and MS not


No shit, well hopefully they'll go out and do well in the NIT

Swanman
03-12-2006, 05:46 PM
Tennessee and UCLA are absolute jokes as 2 seeds, especially considering UCLA got the top 2 seed in Memphis's bracket. The SEC got way too much love this year as shitty as the conference was.

Also, Air Force getting in over teams like Michigan and Missouri State is a joke, but their tourney life will be short because the Illini will send them packing.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 05:46 PM
They said MS has the highest RPI and got LEFT OUT...21st in RPI ranking is very high.

There seems to be a strong feeling the RPI is outta whack this past year. It'll be interesting to see if they tweak it somehow...

BigVE
03-12-2006, 05:47 PM
Yeah, it proved that the selection committee didnt put a whole lot of emphasis on the RPI's.

|Zach|
03-12-2006, 05:47 PM
For some reason I have always respected Illinois. As the backer of an under dog type team I think we would have been snuffed out by Illinois but not had that feeling with other similar or even better teams.

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:50 PM
I still can't believe they docked George Washington quite that bad too. Maybe they'll prove me wrong, but I think they have the athleticism to get in Redick's face and give him problems.

tk13
03-12-2006, 05:54 PM
This thing on CBS has turned into the "Beat the hell out of the Missouri Valley" show. They only got 4 teams and most of them were double digit seeds. It's not like they wiped out the field.

|Zach|
03-12-2006, 05:55 PM
This thing on CBS has turned into the "Beat the hell out of the Missouri Valley" show. They only got 4 teams and most of them were double digit seeds. It's not like they wiped out the field.
The really have been ranting against the MVC.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 05:56 PM
Nantz and Packer are hammering the Selection Committee Chair..... ROFL

They think the MVC was given TOO MANY teams with four..... :hmmm:

Cave Johnson
03-12-2006, 05:56 PM
That was a really awkward end to the interview. Seemed unnecessarily rude.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 05:57 PM
This thing on CBS has turned into the "Beat the hell out of the Missouri Valley" show. They only got 4 teams and most of them were double digit seeds. It's not like they wiped out the field.

Lack of quality wins against the "power conferences" seems to be their main complaint....

SPchief
03-12-2006, 05:58 PM
I still think the MVC should have had five in, even though nantz thinks that 4 was too many.

SPchief
03-12-2006, 05:58 PM
Lack of quality wins against the "power conferences" seems to be their main complaint....


Yet they can justify 8 Big East teams.

ROYC75
03-12-2006, 05:59 PM
What's this ?


No MU ?


Mo. State getting left out for Air Force was a joke.

Pitt Gorilla
03-12-2006, 06:00 PM
Lack of quality wins against the "power conferences" seems to be their main complaint....UNI beat Iowa and LSU and got a 10 seed.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 06:00 PM
I still think the MVC should have had five in, even though nantz thinks that 4 was too many.

Well, the MVC teams need to make their case and win some games.....get a team or two into the Sweet Sixteen....and that'll shut up the critics. They need to forget about their "history" in the tourney...

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:00 PM
For us being a #1 seed, they did us no favors. A possible second round matchup against Arkansas in Dallas, and then a possible Elite Eight matchup against Gonzaga or UCLA in Oakland? Oral Roberts is better than a #16 seed, as well. I'm not exactly pissed, but it's annoying.

Gonzaga is a #3 seed, but Tennessee is a #2 seed? You've gotta be shitting me. Tennessee completely faded down the stretch.

tk13
03-12-2006, 06:01 PM
Lack of quality wins against the "power conferences" seems to be their main complaint....
Yeah, but as the committee chair said, they can't choose who they play... because these bubble teams like Florida State and Michigan can hand pick their non-conference schedule... You think anyone wants to go to Carbondale to play Southern Illinois? No way. You don't see them even trying to play too many teams from the MVC or Colonial or upper-tier "mid majors". And really they gave all the MVC teams low seeds, basically saying they were on par with the middle of the pack "major" conference teams, which is probably more than fair. A lot of the power conferences had 2-3 power teams at the top and then really dropped off the rest of the way down.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 06:02 PM
UNI beat Iowa and LSU and got a 10 seed.

UNI and Wichita State could make some noise. Hell, if Bradley catches KU with cold outside shooting....they could win. It's time for them to put up if they wanna shut the critics up. :shrug:

DJay23
03-12-2006, 06:02 PM
Wow, I've already torn up one bracket. This is going to be disastrous this year.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 06:03 PM
Yeah, but as the committee chair said, they can't choose who they play... because these bubble teams like Florida State and Michigan can hand pick their non-conference schedule... You think anyone wants to go to Carbondale to play Southern Illinois? No way. You don't see them even trying to play too many teams from the MVC or Colonial or upper-tier "mid majors". And really they gave all the MVC teams low seeds, basically saying they were on par with the middle of the pack "major" conference teams, which is probably more than fair.

The other thing I thought was interesting....was the conference records for "wins" and "Sweet Sixteen" appearances. I think those things should matter.....

BigVE
03-12-2006, 06:03 PM
UCLA as a #2 is kind of surprising as well.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:04 PM
KU is the most athletic team in the countryBzzzt. Try again.

A Memphis-KU matchup would be right up there with Memphis-UAB in terms of entertainment value.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 06:04 PM
Yet they can justify 8 Big East teams.

Yeah, that's the East Coast bias they refuse to discuss much.....but, then again, records in the tourney by the Big East over time probably play into the thinking....

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 06:05 PM
Bzzzt. Try again.

A Memphis-KU matchup would be right up there with Memphis-UAB in terms of entertainment value.

KU's one of the top five, "most athletic". They are just young, young, young......

|Zach|
03-12-2006, 06:06 PM
Yeah, but as the committee chair said, they can't choose who they play... because these bubble teams like Florida State and Michigan can hand pick their non-conference schedule... You think anyone wants to go to Carbondale to play Southern Illinois? No way. You don't see them even trying to play too many teams from the MVC or Colonial or upper-tier "mid majors". And really they gave all the MVC teams low seeds, basically saying they were on par with the middle of the pack "major" conference teams, which is probably more than fair. A lot of the power conferences had 2-3 power teams at the top and then really dropped off the rest of the way down.
SIU more so than any of the other MVC have sought out a tougher schedule and other people are not interested.

tk13
03-12-2006, 06:07 PM
UNI and Wichita State could make some noise. Hell, if Bradley catches KU with cold outside shooting....they could win. It's time for them to put up if they wanna shut the critics up. :shrug:
I think they've more than proven that really. I don't know what Billy Packer was talking about, he cherry picked his argument. I think I could personally rip that argument apart. Southern Illinois has won a few games, they beat Texas Tech a few years back, lost to Missouri by 1, and took Oklahoma State to the wire last year. Creighton last year lost to West Virginia on a last second basket in the 1st round. If Creighton gets it the other way they knock out an Elite 8 team. Creighton also beat Florida four years ago. Indiana State beat Oklahoma 4-5 years back. Northern Iowa took eventual national runner-up Georgia Tech to the last seconds a couple years ago, and lost a close game to Wisconsin last year... and on and on... they haven't won a ton of games, but in very few of those games were they actually the higher seed. They are always a lower seed who gives the higher seed a much tighter game than has been projected, which is where they've been placed again this year.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:07 PM
Billy Paccker is a clueless, apologetic "big six" tard. He once called C-USA a mid-major conference (this was either the year we sent a team to the Final Four, or got 6 bids to the Dance). Without Memphis and UAB, that might ring somewhat true this year, but not then by any stretch.

KU's one of the top five, "most athletic". They are just young, young, young......Honestly, KU is dangerous and athletic. If we weren't that, too, I'd be very worried about them (rather than being simply worried).

tk13
03-12-2006, 06:11 PM
Billy Paccker is a clueless, apologetic "big six" tard. He once called C-USA a mid-major conference (this was either the year we sent a team to the Final Four, or got 6 bids to the Dance). Without Memphis and UAB, that might ring somewhat true this year, but not then by any stretch.

Honestly, KU is dangerous and athletic. If we weren't that, too, I'd be very worried about them (rather than being simply worried).
Billy Packer has been that way forever. He's the same guy who once said Larry Bird and his Indiana State team was overrated.

Skip Towne
03-12-2006, 06:12 PM
I haven't seen Bradley play and I don't doubt they have a future NBA big man. But I have noticed over the years that the big schools not only have better athletes but more of them as well. KU has 5 guys 6'8" or taller and 3 of them weigh 235 or more. I haven't seen the stats on KU-Tex yet but Aldridge wasn't the stud he has been in the past. I think that is because Self rotated Kaun, Jackson and Giles on him and just wore him (and Texas) out. I expect KU to beat up that Bradley guy in the same manner. Once in a while though, a Carmelo Anthony sneaks in there and screws up all my theories.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:14 PM
KU has 5 guys 6'8" or tallerOnly five? That's cute. :D

Skip Towne
03-12-2006, 06:18 PM
Billy Paccker is a clueless, apologetic "big six" tard. He once called C-USA a mid-major conference (this was either the year we sent a team to the Final Four, or got 6 bids to the Dance). Without Memphis and UAB, that might ring somewhat true this year, but not then by any stretch.

Honestly, KU is dangerous and athletic. If we weren't that, too, I'd be very worried about them (rather than being simply worried).
Hey, Mr. Peanut, I haven't heard a peep out of you while you have that great basketball team. What's up with that? I think Memphis is for real. I've seen them be top flight before in basketball.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:20 PM
I've been a bit behind on the TiVo... damn, they were outright rude to Littlepage. What assholes.

The fact that they're pissed off about mid-majors getting "so many" teams in and not upset about the SEC (which abuses the same technique the MVC used this year) getting six berths shows their bias.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:23 PM
Hey, Mr. Peanut, I haven't heard a peep out of you while you have that great basketball team. What's up with that?I don't like to weauxf, if I can help it. It's not my style, and the superstitious side of me doesn't want to screw with things when they're working.

I think Memphis is for real. I've seen them be top flight before in basketball.It's been a fun year. Aside from the fact that we've gotten saddled with what will essentially be road games, I'm okay with the draw and think we've got a legitimate shot to make it to the Final Four.

I've never been able to say this before, but I hope all four top seeds make it to the Final Four... I want another shot at Duke.

duncan_idaho
03-12-2006, 06:26 PM
I'm going to say "I told you so" now to the SMS fans who were certain the Bears were in the tourney. Looks like their weak schedule and choke job in the MVC tourney WERE more important than their high RPI. As well as the one-two upseets in conference tourneys...

All right, I'm going to try to stop being classless now...

DJay23
03-12-2006, 06:28 PM
All right, I'm going to try to stop being classless now...
I didn't know Mizzou fans could turn it off. :shrug:

Skip Towne
03-12-2006, 06:29 PM
Only five? That's cute. :D
Well, only 5 that play. We have another one 6'10" on the bench but if Self doesn't want to see him play I don't either.

tk13
03-12-2006, 06:30 PM
I'm going to say "I told you so" now to the SMS fans who were certain the Bears were in the tourney. Looks like their weak schedule and choke job in the MVC tourney WERE more important than their high RPI. As well as the one-two upseets in conference tourneys...

All right, I'm going to try to stop being classless now...
I'm not sure. Air Force didn't play anybody and lost in the first round of their conference tourney as a 2 seed... and they still got in.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:33 PM
Well, only 5 that play. We have another one 6'10" on the bench but if Self doesn't want to see him play I don't either.Yeah... we dismissed a 6'11" bench warmer earlier in the year, and there's another who's never really played much due to injuries.

Isn't depth fun?

I'm not sure. Air Force didn't play anybody and lost in the first round of their conference tourney as a 2 seed... and they still got in.Air Force is perhaps the biggest joke of the selection process.

Cincinnati got royally screwed when teams like AFA, Seton Hall, and George Mason (no, not the director of CTU) got in before them. And if "how you finish" matters, how did Tennessee (lost four of their last six) get a #2 seed?

Skip Towne
03-12-2006, 06:33 PM
I don't like to weauxf, if I can help it. It's not my style, and the superstitious side of me doesn't want to screw with things when they're working.

It's been a fun year. Aside from the fact that we've gotten saddled with what will essentially be road games, I'm okay with the draw and think we've got a legitimate shot to make it to the Final Four.

I've never been able to say this before, but I hope all four top seeds make it to the Final Four... I want another shot at Duke.
I don't think all four #1 seeds have EVER made it to the Final Four. And I hope they don't this year. We need a #4 in there for balance. I'd love to see a KU-Memphis shootout. Have you guys got any thugs? We have several.

tk13
03-12-2006, 06:35 PM
I don't think all four #1 seeds have EVER made it to the Final Four. And I hope they don't this year. We need a #4 in there for balance. I'd love to see a KU-Memphis shootout. Have you guys got any thugs? We have several.
It's never happened. The most #1 seeds to make it to the Final Four is three.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:36 PM
I don't think all four #1 seeds have EVER made it to the Final Four. And I hope they don't this year. We need a #4 in there for balance. Okay, okay.

Illinois, come on down.

I'd love to see a KU-Memphis shootout. Have you guys got any thugs? We have several.Simplice (aforementioned guy who was dismissed from the team) was a bit of a thug, on the court.

The closest we have now is a big guy who got caught with (gasp) misdemeanor weed possession. I know you frown on that sort of thing, but he's a good kid and his suspension seemed to set him straight.

Guru
03-12-2006, 06:40 PM
Yup, I've been saying that all along. The B12 really needs to consider starting their tourney a day earlier. Or at the very least starting the Champ game at noon.

I think if they hadn't already decided, KU would've been a 3 seed with the tourney final win.

Will never happen. ESPN controls Championship game. It was amazing they started it at 2pm today.

As far as KU goes, they were getting a 5. The win today got them the 4. If this game had been played at 3pm like it usually is, they would have been stuck with the 5.

DJay23
03-12-2006, 06:42 PM
Bilas just took us to get to Indy.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:43 PM
Bilas just took us to get to Indy.Bilas and Phelps have been on a crusade to demean us from day one. I don't know what we did to them (maybe Cal pissed in their faces, or something), but they've been harping on the "C-USA is weak" card to justify their position that we're overrated and won't do anything in the dance for months.

We played UAB twice and Houston (#51 in the RPI; inconsistent, but damn good when they're up) twice in our last five games, losing only the one in Birmingham. Beyond the top four, C-USA is crap this year, but the top four can match up with most conferences' top four pretty well (especially the top two). We've had a target on our back every game for the past three months, and gyms that previously averaged 2,000 swelled to a rowdy 8,000 when we rolled into town. Toss in the #2 most difficult non-con schedule, and the fact that our strength of schedule is still in the #30 area despite playing the dregs of C-USA, and we're hardly untested. Doesn't matter to them, though.

"Non-big six bad, big six good."

DJay23
03-12-2006, 06:45 PM
Bilas and Phelps have been on a crusade to demean us from day one. I don't know what we did to them (maybe Cal pissed in their faces, or something), but they've been harping on the "C-USA is weak" card to justify their position that we're overrated and won't do anything in the dance for months.
Actually, they were talking about Arkansas beating Memphis before they even got to KU.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:49 PM
Actually, they were talking about Arkansas beating Memphis before they even got to KU.Actually, Bilas even said ORU had a shot at beating us. :rolleyes:

By the way, I like Digger's argument than UNC is reminiscent of Carmelo's Syracuse team... which is followed by trashing us because of our youth. ROFL

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 06:50 PM
Bilas and Vitale both think that SMS got jobbed....

the Talking Can
03-12-2006, 06:51 PM
Bilas is crazy...KU has a bitch of a game against Pitt...an then Memphis...ouch...

KU certainly has the talent, but experience?

can't wait...I'd much rather play Duke than Memphis

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 06:52 PM
Actually, they were talking about Arkansas beating Memphis before they even got to KU.

KU will have a HUGE fight on it's hands to win against Pittsburg. If they get past Bradley and Pittsburg, I'd love to have a shot at Memphis....it would be one heck of a game.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 06:53 PM
Bilas is crazy...KU has a bitch of a game against Pitt...an then Memphis...ouch...

KU certainly has the talent, but experience?

can't wait...I'd much rather play Duke than Memphis

I don't know about rather playing Duke over Memphis, but I agree with everything else...

DJay23
03-12-2006, 06:54 PM
I firmly believe that if we can handle Texas the way we did today, then if we play with that same focus and intensity, Pitt will be no different.

tk13
03-12-2006, 06:56 PM
I don't know, I hate to make generalizations this early... but off the bat I don't think any of the #1 seeds are safe bets. Last year you looked at it, and you saw Illinois and UNC, and that felt like a halfway solid bet. This year... I don't know. I think a lot of them are gonna be challenged starting in the 2nd round.

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 06:56 PM
Bilas and Vitale both think that SMS got jobbed....Did they deserve to get in over Air Force and Utah State? Yes. But UAB? How much crack did Bilas smoke? UAB is 24-6 and has won 17 of their last 20 games (the losses were @Memphis, @UTEP which is a tough place to play, and @Memphis in the C-USA Tourney final).

UAB will beat Kentucky (again). They gave us our toughest games since Duke, and I'm including Texas (which caught us with our pants down) and Gonzaga in that. They're deep, they're athletic, and they're gritty as hell.

Skip Towne
03-12-2006, 06:58 PM
Will never happen. ESPN controls Championship game. It was amazing they started it at 2pm today.

As far as KU goes, they were getting a 5. The win today got them the 4. If this game had been played at 3pm like it usually is, they would have been stuck with the 5.
I have heard the head of the selection committee say that the seeds are determined before the BigXII final is over. But they get a new head duck and committee each year so that may change as well with a particular committee. I can't remember the circumstances but the Big 8 was asked to start their championship game earlier but they declined citing conflicts with other tournaments or some such shit.

Mr. Kotter
03-12-2006, 07:01 PM
Did they deserve to get in over Air Force and Utah State? Yes. But UAB? How much crack did Bilas smoke? UAB is 24-6 and has won 21 of their last 25 games (the losses were @Minnesota in a flukey game, @Memphis, @UTEP which is a tough place to play, and @Memphis in the C-USA Tourney final).

Yeah, they seem tough on C-USA. Basically argued UAB hadn't beat anyone of consequence really....

:spock:

big nasty kcnut
03-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Shockers are in baby. Welcome back boys it's been too long.

Skip Towne
03-12-2006, 07:16 PM
Yeah, they seem tough on C-USA. Basically argued UAB hadn't beat anyone of consequence really....

:spock:
Who is UAB's coach. Several years ago they had a Hank Iba descendent . I think it was near when they went Division I.

JBucc
03-12-2006, 07:19 PM
Who is UAB's coach. Several years ago they had a Hank Iba descendent . I think it was near when they went Division I.
Mike Anderson

Skip Towne
03-12-2006, 07:22 PM
Mike Anderson
No, no, he plays RB for Dungver.

|Zach|
03-12-2006, 07:23 PM
Don't worry about Duncan...the amount of sand he has had in his vagina since the name change boggles the mind.

JBucc
03-12-2006, 07:24 PM
No, no, he plays RB for Dungver.
It's his daddy. Well not really.

tk13
03-12-2006, 07:24 PM
Georgia Tech was terrible this year. If that's your criteria, Creighton should be in. They beat Nebraska, a final four Big XII tourney team, by 26 points.

duncan_idaho
03-12-2006, 07:27 PM
Georgia Tech was terrible this year. If that's your criteria, Creighton should be in. They beat Nebraska, a final four Big XII tourney team, by 26 points.

The decent was intended to modify the conferences. I'll fix that...

And I would have put Creighton inówasn't Funk supposed to be back for the Tourney? It's unfortunate that injuries kept the Jays from making the tourney...

Ultra Peanut
03-12-2006, 07:28 PM
This says it all about Cincinnati's exclusion/AFA's inclusion:

I want to do the analysis I did of UC against the teams I assumed were the true bubble teams with Utah State and Air Force.

Wins against the top half of the bracket (This is RPI neutral, so the committee should go in for this, at least):
Cincinnati - 4
Utah State - 1
Air Force - 0

RPI Top 100 wins:
Cincinnati - 11
Utah State - 7
Air Force - 5

Losses to non-Tournament teams (also RPI-neutral, you freaking idiots):
Cincinnati - 2
Air Force - 4
Utah State - 6

Record in last 10 games:
Air Force 7-3 (it's nice that you were able to pull off one of those three games against Wyoming, by a single point at home)
Utah State 7-3 (congrats on those hard-fought single-possession wins over Boise State and San Jose State)
Cincinnati 5-5 (all five losses to NCAA teams, four of them to teams seeded 5 or higher)

Un-freaking-believable.
AFA and USU would have been murdered if they'd played UC's schedule.

Skip Towne
03-12-2006, 07:33 PM
I've lost all confidence in the RPI. Not that I had much to begin with. In December, just over two months ago, they had KU rated in the 140's. I said WTF? You could go back 50 years and not be able to find 140 teams that could beat KU in any given year.

Bob Dole
03-12-2006, 09:47 PM
They said MS has the highest RPI and got LEFT OUT...21st in RPI ranking is very high.

Not to mention that they were #25 in the Sagarin ratings...

Lzen
03-12-2006, 09:47 PM
This says it all about Cincinnati's exclusion/AFA's inclusion:


AFA and USU would have been murdered if they'd played UC's schedule.

Wow, that's terrible. What has happened to this selection committee over these past few years? :shake:

tk13
03-13-2006, 03:50 AM
http://www.pjstar.com/stories/031306/BRA_B9803U48.076.shtml

MVC leader believes he sees B.S. on CBS

Commissioner displeased with comments made by network's hoops analysts

Monday, March 13, 2006
by dave reynolds
of the journal star

Missouri Valley Conference commissioner Doug Elgin denounced CBS-TV commentators Billy Packer and Jim Nantz for their critical comments Sunday night of the Valley's record four NCAA tournament bids, the same number as the Atlantic Coast and Big 12 received.
"I'm disappointed in both Jim Nantz and Billy Packer and their behavior," Elgin said. "Their comments were inappropriate and wrong. They need to do some research before they make statements like that.

"You can take a year in which the Big Ten went 1-6 in the tournament and that doesn't impact the Big Ten's ability to place teams in the field next year. You can win a lot of arguments by taking a selective cut of information and that's what these guys did."

Elgin was referring to the pair's on-air interview with selection committee chairman Craig Littlepage in which the CBS duo complained that the Valley had won just one total NCAA game the past three years, while the ACC had won 25 during that span.

Littlepage's response to that charge: "We made our selections based on the teams, not on the basis of what conferences they represented. . . . We don't take into consideration what either an individual school has done in past NCAA tournaments or what the history of a conference might be."

Elgin defended the Valley by pointing out the league had reached the NCAA Sweet 16 twice in the last seven seasons and had beaten the likes of Florida, Louisville, Tennessee, Wisconsin, Texas Tech and Oklahoma during that stretch.

"But Billy didn't have that information at his disposal," Elgin said.

The MVC commissioner, while pleased at the NCAA bids earned by Wichita State, Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois and Bradley, also expressed dismay at Missouri State being left out of the field.

The Bears posted a 21 RPI, by 12 spots the best ever by a team to be excluded from the field.

"Missouri State, with a 21 RPI, had a historic exclusion," Elgin said. "It's pretty amazing and disappointing. My heart goes out to (MSU coach) Barry Hinson."

StcChief
03-13-2006, 09:22 AM
Missouri State got screwed.
If the RPI was so important in the weighting of a bid...

The idea of giving 5 bids to MVC when other 'equal' conference only got four could have been a factor....

jspchief
03-13-2006, 09:45 AM
I don't think Missouri State got screwed. They knew they were a bubble team and didn't help their case by losing in the first round of their conference tourney.

CoMoChief
03-13-2006, 10:03 AM
Missouri State didnt get screwed. The commisioner needs to understand that the conference is gonna have to do better than sweet 16 two times in seven seasons to get any recognition for being able to playu with the big dog conferences.