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Joe Seahawk
03-13-2006, 05:23 PM
Bernard, Allen to visit KC | Subscribe

Seahawks DT Rocky Bernard has a free-agent visit planned for Kansas City. Former New York Giants CB Will Allen, who recently visited Seattle, is also expected to visit the Chiefs. Just a couple of tidbits for those who have been asking about Bernard in particular.

DAMMIT CARL!! :banghead:

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/

Pitt Gorilla
03-13-2006, 05:24 PM
Good.

Wile_E_Coyote
03-13-2006, 05:24 PM
what's a DT?

Count Alex's Losses
03-13-2006, 05:25 PM
Sweet!

StcChief
03-13-2006, 05:26 PM
what's a DT?

We don't have any good ones.
ROFL

Miles
03-13-2006, 05:28 PM
You guys can have Will Allen.

Nice to see we are at least bringing in Bernard for a visit.

tk13
03-13-2006, 05:31 PM
I'd be happy with that.

Rain Man
03-13-2006, 05:32 PM
He shall never leave.

stevieray
03-13-2006, 05:34 PM
I wonder if this is the move gun was talking about.

alpha_omega
03-13-2006, 05:35 PM
Don't let him out of town without a contract!!!!!!!!!!

According to CBS Sportsline, he is the top DT FA.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/freeagents/position/DT

Mr. Laz
03-13-2006, 05:35 PM
DAMMIT CARL!! :banghead:

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/


only chiefs' fans are allow to dam carl :harumph:

58-4ever
03-13-2006, 05:44 PM
Bernard is the one I'd really like to have on our team.

Rain Man
03-13-2006, 05:46 PM
If he came to Kansas City, could we nickname him Saint?

BigChiefFan
03-13-2006, 05:47 PM
It should be a good move for us, but I still think we could use a huge NT,too. Bernard is the undertackle. Sims should start to put one and one together if this happens.

stevieray
03-13-2006, 05:47 PM
If he came to Kansas City, could we nickname him Saint?

St. Balboa?

SBK
03-13-2006, 05:47 PM
If he came to Kansas City, could we nickname him Saint?

Adam Schfter of the NFL network reports you can call this big guy anything but late for dinner.

Rain Man
03-13-2006, 05:49 PM
St. Balboa?

Wrong Rocky.

stevieray
03-13-2006, 05:50 PM
Wrong Rocky.
oh, St Marciano...

JBucc
03-13-2006, 05:51 PM
He's young and gets in side penetration. Sign him up.

Rain Man
03-13-2006, 05:53 PM
oh, St Marciano...


No, no, no. St. Bullwinkle.

The Bad Guy
03-13-2006, 05:55 PM
Thank jesus.

He has to be signed.

He's the big FA this defense needs.

Be still my beating heart, a tackle who can collapse the pocket.

Rooster
03-13-2006, 05:56 PM
Let's sign him today. I can pitch in a little. :p

StcChief
03-13-2006, 05:56 PM
I guess we could have 'Rocky' Bernard and 'Squirrel' Dalton

58-4ever
03-13-2006, 05:56 PM
He's young and gets in side penetration. Sign him up.

if that's all it takes, then sign ME up.

The Bad Guy
03-13-2006, 05:57 PM
It should be a good move for us, but I still think we could use a huge NT,too. Bernard is the undertackle. Sims should start to put one and one together if this happens.

If we are really going to play cover 2 a lot, they don't need a huge tackle.

I'm just happy they are really looking at addressing the DT position with a proven player instead of reaching for a one-year college wonder.

Rain Man
03-13-2006, 05:59 PM
I guess we could have 'Rocky' Bernard and 'Squirrel' Dalton

As opposed to our recent "Mr. Peabody and Sherman" tandem.

stevieray
03-13-2006, 06:01 PM
No, no, no. St. Bullwinkle.

whew! for a second I thought that Eric Stoltz was going to play DT.

NaptownChief
03-13-2006, 06:07 PM
You guys think this will actually get done? My gut feeling is no. Seems like every year we have pursued anything of substance in free agency the guy comes in drives up his offers elsewhere and leaves Carl and crew desperately scrambling amongst the leftovers...

stevieray
03-13-2006, 06:09 PM
You guys think this will actually get done? My gut feeling is no. Seems like every year we have pursued anything of substance in free agency the guy comes in drives up his offers elsewhere and leaves Carl and crew desperately scrambling amongst the leftovers...

Shut up Boris!

NaptownChief
03-13-2006, 06:10 PM
Shut up Boris!


So does that mean you think it will get done?

Garcia Bronco
03-13-2006, 06:12 PM
what's a DT?

LOL

I hope he comes to Denver.

BigChiefFan
03-13-2006, 06:14 PM
If we are really going to play cover 2 a lot, they don't need a huge tackle.

I'm just happy they are really looking at addressing the DT position with a proven player instead of reaching for a one-year college wonder.
Like I said, Bernard wouldn't be a bad fit, but IMO we still need somebody to pair him up with. I'd prefer that someone to be a mammoth road grader nose tackle. I believe Bernard had some of his success because he was paired up with Big Marcus Tubbs.

Mr. Laz
03-13-2006, 06:15 PM
we'll offer him the league vet minimum ...... with incentives.


and he better be dam glad to receive the offer if he knows what's good for him.

Sure-Oz
03-13-2006, 06:19 PM
I hope we get him, we do need a push in hte middle damnit!

chubychecker
03-13-2006, 06:22 PM
best news I've heard all day. GET IT DONE!!

shaneo69
03-13-2006, 06:22 PM
If we are really going to play cover 2 a lot, they don't need a huge tackle.

I'm just happy they are really looking at addressing the DT position with a proven player instead of reaching for a one-year college wonder.

Wasn't Bernard a one-year wonder with the Seahawks, coincidentally in his contract year?

alanm
03-13-2006, 06:24 PM
I'd be nice to have someone step in for when Sims goes down with his yearly injury. :thumb:

beer bacon
03-13-2006, 07:07 PM
You guys think this will actually get done? My gut feeling is no. Seems like every year we have pursued anything of substance in free agency the guy comes in drives up his offers elsewhere and leaves Carl and crew desperately scrambling amongst the leftovers...

Funny and original!

recxjake
03-13-2006, 07:15 PM
bernard
sims
siavii
browning
dalton

Its alright

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2006, 07:30 PM
I'd like to see Bernard a Chief. We CAN sign him, we have the room. Hopefully we get a FA WR, as well, if they aren't all gone.

Coach
03-13-2006, 07:37 PM
I'd like to see Bernard a Chief. We CAN sign him, we have the room. Hopefully we get a FA WR, as well, if they aren't all gone.

Agreed on Bernard. As for a WR, I'm sure they're all are going to be either going to Washington or Detroit, since they both seem to enjoy over-paying WR's for some reason.

the Talking Can
03-13-2006, 07:52 PM
27 yrs old
50 tackles
8.5 sacks


man, dare to dream....

Mr. Kotter
03-13-2006, 07:58 PM
27 yrs old
50 tackles
8.5 sacks


man, dare to dream....

Sure would be nice to have him put one of ours into a backup role.... :drool:

Chiefs Pantalones
03-13-2006, 08:02 PM
27 yrs old
50 tackles
8.5 sacks


man, dare to dream....

it'd be nice

Cave Johnson
03-13-2006, 08:03 PM
Wasn't Bernard a one-year wonder with the Seahawks, coincidentally in his contract year?

Yes and no. He put up 4 sacks twice in his first three seasons. And he had twice as many knockdowns (6) last year as he did this year.

Tribal Warfare
03-13-2006, 08:03 PM
27 yrs old
50 tackles
8.5 sacks


man, dare to dream....

Bernard lined up with either Bunkley or Hali :hmmm:

Mr. Laz
03-13-2006, 08:05 PM
DEFENSIVE STATS

Year Team __G Tot Tck Ast Scks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
2002 Seattle 16 48 33 15 _ 02 _ 00 00 _00 00 00 01
2003 Seattle 12 16 11 05 _ 02 _ 00 00 _00 00 00 01
2004 Seattle 14 39 26 13 _ 3.5 _00 00 _00 00 00 06
2005 Seattle 16 52 42 10 _ 8.5 _00 00 _00 00 00 03

Chiefnj
03-13-2006, 08:29 PM
I wonder if Herm will tell him that he isn't guaranteed a starting position. He'll have to earn it by beating out Siavii. That might scare him away.

Rain Man
03-13-2006, 08:31 PM
I had no idea that he's a four-year veteran. I thought last year was his first, or maybe second, year.

Mr. Laz
03-13-2006, 08:33 PM
I had no idea that he's a four-year veteran. I thought last year was his first, or maybe second, year.

how could he be a free agent if he'd only been in the league for 1 or 2 years?

Rain Man
03-13-2006, 08:36 PM
how could he be a free agent if he'd only been in the league for 1 or 2 years?

I assumed that he escaped.

Mr. Laz
03-13-2006, 08:39 PM
I assumed that he escaped.
there is no escaping unless he sucked so bad that he got cut


hard to suck that bad when a player is a restricted free agent for their first 4 years. The team can pretty much force them to play cheap unless they are a 1st round pick.

recxjake
03-13-2006, 08:45 PM
Chiefs | Team visits with Bernard
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:40:04 -0800

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports free agent DT Rocky Bernard (Seahawks) visited with the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, March 13.

milkman
03-13-2006, 09:06 PM
Chiefs | Team visits with Bernard
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:40:04 -0800

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports free agent DT Rocky Bernard (Seahawks) visited with the Kansas City Chiefs Monday, March 13.

So does that mean he's already left town?

Ultra Peanut
03-13-2006, 09:42 PM
He's young and gets in side penetration.Huhuhuhuhuh.

the Talking Can
03-13-2006, 09:46 PM
Bernard lined up with either Bunkley or Hali :hmmm:

yes

now we're talking real improvement...I have to believe that Herm understands exactly how bad our DL is...

Frankie
03-13-2006, 09:55 PM
Bernard lined up with either Bunkley or Hali :hmmm:
Hali. If Bernard's as good as everyone here thinks he is Sims will be a lot better playing next to him too.

CoMoChief
03-13-2006, 09:56 PM
Damn 52 tackles and 8.5 sacks as a DT. Was he in this past season's Pro Bowl?? Not that it matters but the guy did have a pretty nice season last year. I hope we land this guy.

1 Rd - DE Tambia Hali (unless CB Tye Hill falls to us)
2 Rd - DE Bunkley or CB Kelly Jennings (depending on which position we draft in first rd.)
3 Rd - QB Brodie Croyle or best defensive player

Then the next seasons draft we need to look hardcore on Safeties, WR's, and OLmen.

beer bacon
03-13-2006, 09:59 PM
Damn 52 tackles and 8.5 sacks as a DT. Was he in this past season's Pro Bowl?? Not that it matters but the guy did have a pretty nice season last year. I hope we land this guy.

1 Rd - DE Tambia Hali (unless CB Tye Hill falls to us)
2 Rd - DE Bunkley or CB Kelly Jennings (depending on which position we draft in first rd.)
3 Rd - QB Brodie Croyle or best defensive player

Then the next seasons draft we need to look hardcore on Safeties, WR's, and OLmen.

I think in the second round we should take Mario Williams instead of Bunkley.

brent102fire
03-13-2006, 10:12 PM
You guys think this will actually get done? My gut feeling is no. Seems like every year we have pursued anything of substance in free agency the guy comes in drives up his offers elsewhere and leaves Carl and crew desperately scrambling amongst the leftovers...

Unfortunately, you are correct in your synopsis about the Chiefs and the Free Agent Market... :shake:

milkman
03-13-2006, 10:13 PM
Damn 52 tackles and 8.5 sacks as a DT. Was he in this past season's Pro Bowl?? Not that it matters but the guy did have a pretty nice season last year. I hope we land this guy.

1 Rd - DE Tambia Hali (unless CB Tye Hill falls to us)
2 Rd - DE Bunkley or CB Kelly Jennings (depending on which position we draft in first rd.)
3 Rd - QB Brodie Croyle or best defensive player

Then the next seasons draft we need to look hardcore on Safeties, WR's, and OLmen.

I want Hali if he's there, even if Tye Hill is also there.
I hope Donte Whitner is there in the 2nd rd.

Reaper16
03-13-2006, 10:14 PM
I think in the second round we should take Mario Williams instead of Bunkley.
ROFL ROFL ROFL

Tribal Warfare
03-13-2006, 10:17 PM
Hali. If Bernard's as good as everyone here thinks he is Sims will be a lot better playing next to him too.


F*CK Sims, if the BAA in the 1st is Bunkley then KC better pick him

Iowanian
03-13-2006, 10:17 PM
I'd like to see him signed....but I haven't watched him as much as the resident seahag.

So Joe....Will Chief fans like Rocky Bernard in Red?

Joe Seahawk
03-13-2006, 10:41 PM
I'd like to see him signed....but I haven't watched him as much as the resident seahag.

So Joe....Will Chief fans like Rocky Bernard in Red?

Yep.. He's a very good pass rusher. The Seahawks even put him at end at times and he still got sacks. He did it in the NFC Championship in fact.

He's not the best at stuffing the run, but he does wreak havoc in the backfield, very impressive for a dt..

But he'll be back in Seattle.. Darby and Tubbs would kick his ass if he tried to sign somewhere else.. ;)

Iowanian
03-13-2006, 10:45 PM
count me in the "won't be suprised to see him in KC "crowd.

Gunther has talked about an "attacking, disruptive" defense.

A fast, Agile DT who can get in the backfield and create havock is definitely part of that equation.

Joe Seahawk
03-13-2006, 10:49 PM
If you go here you can see highlights from him in the Championship game and post game comments from Rocky.

http://www.seahawks.com/MMSec.aspx?vid=611&MMSecID=18

MVChiefFan
03-13-2006, 10:55 PM
Man, I hope we don't even let him leave! The way things are going though, I can't help but be nervous about it.

Johnson&Johnson
03-14-2006, 12:04 AM
Man, I hope we don't even let him leave! The way things are going though, I can't help but be nervous about it.

If anyone can sweetened the deal after Bernard meets with Carl on the money side of things, it is our new HC.

Herm is the one guy that will get this Rocky dude excited about playing for him and loving KC. If Herm even smells an ounce of $$$$$$ on this large fella, i don't think Herm will sell as hard. Herm is looking for guys with attitude and heart, along with football smarts. Not the cha-ching factor based on the guy's 2005 stats or talent alone.

Go back to 1999, 2000. Not many of us knew names like Teddy Bruschi or Mike Vrabel. Those guys weren't headline guys. Patriots actually drafted some highly touted LB out of Ohio St. in 1999 ..Andy Katzenmoyer.

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BigMeatballDave
03-14-2006, 02:16 AM
Wasn't Bernard a one-year wonder with the Seahawks, coincidentally in his contract year?He had 8.5 sacks last season. 9 in the 3 seasons before. He's only played 4 seasons. I hope they can get this guy. He may make Sims a better player...

royr17
03-14-2006, 05:08 AM
Here's what Im predicting, the Chiefs will sign Rocky Bernard and Will Allen.

Rocky Bernard starts next to Sims while Allen will be a backup and Julian Battle starts.

And the Chiefs will end up drafting a Defensive End in the first round of the NFL Draft.

BigRock
03-14-2006, 05:18 AM
Is it true that Bernard is a situational guy, that he mainly comes in for passing downs? I always thought he was an every down type guy. Maybe I'm making too much of that, but for some reason I don't see Carl's checkbook opening too wide for a rotation guy who won't be in there all the time.

old_geezer
03-14-2006, 06:39 AM
He had 8.5 sacks last season. 9 in the 3 seasons before. He's only played 4 seasons. I hope they can get this guy. He may make Sims a better player...


The only thing that would make Sims a better player is a new heart. He doesn't appear to have any at the present time.

Adept Havelock
03-14-2006, 06:54 AM
I doubt we can sign Rocky, but I really hope I'm wrong. We need a force in the middle to push the pocket...for the umpteenth season in a row.

Just a thought: If we can't get Rocky, how about signing Gar?

brent102fire
03-14-2006, 09:29 AM
Seahawks | Bernard gathering interest
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:04:18 -0800

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports the agent for free agent DT Rocky Bernard (Seahawks) said three other teams, in addition to the Kansas City Chiefs, are interested in meeting with Bernard.

Looks like Bernard is going to visit other teams...So Long :cuss: :banghead: :mad: :shake:

BigChiefFan
03-14-2006, 09:41 AM
Seahawks | Bernard gathering interest
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:04:18 -0800

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports the agent for free agent DT Rocky Bernard (Seahawks) said three other teams, in addition to the Kansas City Chiefs, are interested in meeting with Bernard.

Looks like Bernard is going to visit other teams...So Long :cuss: :banghead: :mad: :shake:
That could be agent talk to drive Bernard's price up. I'd like to know who those three "other" teams are.

jspchief
03-14-2006, 09:44 AM
I've got a good feeling about Bernard.

The Chiefs don't usually screw around with bringing in someone they aren't serious about getting. Especially if it's a player that is top FA at his position. If KC brought him in, they have to have an idea that he's not going to come cheap.

Not saying we'll get him. But I bet we are serious in our pursuit.

sedated
03-14-2006, 09:56 AM
A fast, Agile DT who can get in the backfield and create havock is definitely part of that equation.

but...I thought we drafted one of those in 2002


:rolleyes:

ct
03-14-2006, 10:23 AM
Sign him Carl!! We know he won't come cheap, but we also know we can afford him.

Then take Hali in the 1st, Jennings or Simpson in the 2nd, Croyle in the 3rd.

Oh and as long as I'm on this, forget Will Allen. Washington is better than him, and will be much cheaper depth.

Brock
03-14-2006, 10:25 AM
but...I thought we drafted one of those in 2002


:rolleyes:

You and everybody else.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-14-2006, 10:29 AM
someone will overpay and offer him a huge contract. i'm not saying he isn't worth some money, but the way Free agency has gone so far he will get a big deal.

Warrior5
03-14-2006, 10:33 AM
I've got a good feeling about Bernard. The Chiefs don't usually screw around with bringing in someone they aren't serious about getting. Especially if it's a player that is top FA at his position. If KC brought him in, they have to have an idea that he's not going to come cheap. Not saying we'll get him. But I bet we are serious in our pursuit.

'Zactly. Obviously, Bernard would literally transform the weakest area of our team, and the Chiefs should be prepared to shell out some $. I assume he'll leave KC to conduct other visits before deciding, but if CP manages to sign him while he's here, I'll be happy-dancing and singing Carl's praises.

RedThat
03-14-2006, 12:36 PM
Great news. This is good to hear. I've said all along, if there is 1 free agent out there the Chiefs should sign, it should be Rocky Bernard. They should make a strong push for him. I hope we get him. Now, ftr, get it done Lamar and Carl!

Mr. Laz
03-14-2006, 12:43 PM
The Chiefs don't usually screw around with bringing in someone they aren't serious about getting. Especially if it's a player that is top FA at his position.

that's just silly ... they "parade" free agents all the time .. especially if they are the top FA at the their position.

Frankie
03-14-2006, 12:44 PM
Just curious, in what round was Bernard drafted?

Brock
03-14-2006, 12:45 PM
Just curious, in what round was Bernard drafted?

5

jspchief
03-14-2006, 12:45 PM
that's just silly ... they "parade" free agents all the time .. especially if they are the top FA at the their position.I'll just agree to disagree with you on this point. I believe when they bring in the bigger name players, it's because they are making an honest effort to get them. Don't confuse that with willing to over spend on them.

RedThat
03-14-2006, 12:50 PM
I've got a good feeling about Bernard.

The Chiefs don't usually screw around with bringing in someone they aren't serious about getting. Especially if it's a player that is top FA at his position. If KC brought him in, they have to have an idea that he's not going to come cheap.

Not saying we'll get him. But I bet we are serious in our pursuit.

I hope your right. I really hope he comes here.

I hope this isn't any kind of a bluff, or ploy by the organization. You know, I remember they said a lot of stuff 2 years ago when Gunther first got here, stuff like, "we aren't going to be active in FA", "we are cash strapped", "we have no money", etc, etc, and they didn't do anything. I remember that off-season when they brought in Warren Sapp, they let him walk, didn't sign him. Then, during the season when our defense stunk up the joint again, Vermeil came out and said, "We tried to improve our defense, we brought in Warren Sapp, and Troy Vincent, etc, etc". Just to make up an excuse for themselves so they didn't look as bad. Thats how this organization is. They'll say one thing, like, "we aren't going to be active in FA this year". Then, they'll bring in players to visit, won't sign them. Then in the off-season, when their defense stinks again, we'll hear some cheasy a** excuse, "oh well, we tried to sign guys in the off-season". They always find an excuse. Im not going to get my hopes up on this. After watching this organization for years, I kinda got a feel on how they operate.

RedThat
03-14-2006, 12:52 PM
that's just silly ... they "parade" free agents all the time .. especially if they are the top FA at the their position.

Exactly!

Much what I was trying to say. You broke it down it a bit better.
:thumb:

Frankie
03-14-2006, 12:53 PM
5
Wouldn't that be the same year we drafted Sims in the 1st? :hmmm:

phxchief
03-14-2006, 01:01 PM
LOL

I hope he comes to Denver.

You already overpaid for one DT this offseason..... now it's our turn! :harumph:

sedated
03-14-2006, 01:04 PM
Carl trying to sell season tickets

Coogs
03-14-2006, 01:06 PM
I'll just agree to disagree with you on this point. I believe when they bring in the bigger name players, it's because they are making an honest effort to get them. Don't confuse that with willing to over spend on them.

I think they bring them in just to make us fans "think" they are trying to sign them.

jspchief
03-14-2006, 01:07 PM
I think they bring them in just to make us fans "think" they are trying to sign them.Yea. I don't.

Brock
03-14-2006, 01:10 PM
I think they bring them in just to make us fans "think" they are trying to sign them.

Viewpoints like this one make Carl's alleged disdain for the fans seem justified.

tk13
03-14-2006, 01:10 PM
I think they bring them in just to make us fans "think" they are trying to sign them.
I think that's really overthinking things. I highly doubt Carl Peterson is just sitting there in his office thinking "Hmm, I better bring some free agents in to fool the fan base." That's quite the fish tale.

Coogs
03-14-2006, 01:13 PM
Viewpoints like this one make Carl's alleged disdain for the fans seem justified.

I'm not a CP hater. I do however think we bring in guys we have no intention of signing.

jspchief
03-14-2006, 01:13 PM
I think that's really overthinking things. I highly doubt Carl Peterson is just sitting there in his office thinking "Hmm, I better bring some free agents in to fool the fan base." That's quite the fish tale.Nevermind that agents that get to see these "fake PR move offers" from KC would get wise and stop wasting their time.

tk13
03-14-2006, 01:22 PM
Nevermind that agents that get to see these "fake PR move offers" from KC would get wise and stop wasting their time.
Well, I'm sure some of them don't mind. I can buy that... players will use teams to drive up other offers. Supposedly that's what Troy Vincent was trying to do when he came here. I could buy Carl doing it drive up offers from other teams and force them to overpay. But to appease the fans? No way. That just makes everyone angry when they don't sign anyway. Look at Samari Rolle last year, people were ready to fire Carl over us not signing him. He'd been better off not bringing him in at all.

RedThat
03-14-2006, 01:25 PM
Well, I'm sure some of them don't mind. I can buy that... players will use teams to drive up other offers. Supposedly that's what Troy Vincent was trying to do when he came here. I could buy Carl doing it drive up offers from other teams and force them to overpay. But to appease the fans? No way. That just makes everyone angry when they don't sign anyway. Look at Samari Rolle last year, people were ready to fire Carl over us not signing him. He'd been better off not bringing him in at all.

Yup, I could see them doing that.

Hog Farmer
03-14-2006, 01:45 PM
He had 8.5 sacks last season. 9 in the 3 seasons before. He's only played 4 seasons. I hope they can get this guy. He may make Sims a better player...


Sounds like another Erik Hicks. One good season during the course of a lifetime. And if he was so good then why is Seattle letting him get away ?

Just asking because I'm not familiar with him.

phxchief
03-14-2006, 01:48 PM
Sounds like another Erik Hicks. One good season during the course of a lifetime. .

Yeah, real long lifetime at that. :rolleyes:

And if he was so good then why is Seattle letting him get away ?


Have you seen how many bigtime FAs are/were on the market? And what does that say about them that their teams didn't/were unable to resign them?

Not a thing.

Wile_E_Coyote
03-14-2006, 02:44 PM
FWIW, Rhonda Moss(610 Sports) says Bernard & Will Allen are still at Arrowhead

Rudy lost the toss
03-14-2006, 02:51 PM
Sounds like another Erik Hicks. One good season during the course of a lifetime. And if he was so good then why is Seattle letting him get away ?

Just asking because I'm not familiar with him.
I know he split playing time with John Randle his first couple of years and I remember being impressed with him while watching a Seahawks game in his rookie season. I watched a lot of him in college and he was good player for the aggies and from what I've seen he is a good player in the NFL. I don't think of another potential Hicks when I think of Rocky, but sometimes I think he could end up like Browning. I doubt this will be the case though, because it just seems like he has too much talent for that label.

Chief Faithful
03-14-2006, 04:34 PM
27 yrs old
50 tackles
8.5 sacks


man, dare to dream....

That looks like the stats of all the Chiefs DT's,...combined.

Reaper16
03-14-2006, 05:07 PM
That looks like the stats of all the Chiefs DT's,...combined.
That would make our DT's very very young :)

CoMoChief
03-14-2006, 05:09 PM
FWIW, Rhonda Moss(610 Sports) says Bernard & Will Allen are still at Arrowhead



YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Dont let em leave Gun!!!!!!!

Frankie
03-14-2006, 05:19 PM
That looks like the stats of all the Chiefs DT's,...combined.
"27 yrs old?" Is that the combined age of our DTs? :hmmm:

Frankie
03-14-2006, 05:21 PM
That would make our DT's very very young :)
"27 yrs old?" Is that the combined age of our DTs? :hmmm:

Heh heh!...

dtrain
03-14-2006, 11:05 PM
Is he still in town?

nychief
03-14-2006, 11:06 PM
Is he still in town?


Yes. I just had drinks with him at Tomfooleries.

Reaper16
03-14-2006, 11:17 PM
Yes. I just had drinks with him at Tomfooleries.
Are you Jared Allen's girlfriend?

Joe Seahawk
03-14-2006, 11:19 PM
I know it's not much but there is a blurb about Rocky in todays Seattle Times..

Davis is not expected to return to the Cardinals. Bernard was in Kansas City meeting with the Chiefs today, and Kansas City seems very interested in Bernard, who had 8 sacks for Seattle last season.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2002864997_webhutch14.html

nychief
03-14-2006, 11:19 PM
Are you Jared Allen's girlfriend?

yes.

Reaper16
03-14-2006, 11:19 PM
yes.
ROFL

Mr. Laz
03-14-2006, 11:49 PM
I think that's really overthinking things. I highly doubt Carl Peterson is just sitting there in his office thinking "Hmm, I better bring some free agents in to fool the fan base." That's quite the fish tale.
then you more than just a little naive


the selling of tickets/merchandise largely depends on public perception.

If fans are excited about the team, they buy more.


the chiefs know this ... everyone know this


if you don't think that the chiefs would bring in a couple of big name free agents to drum up excitement then you are sadly mistaken.


how often they do it is the only real question, because they do it.

Mr. Laz
03-14-2006, 11:52 PM
Nevermind that agents that get to see these "fake PR move offers" from KC would get wise and stop wasting their time.

oh bull .......... because it helps the agents too


the chiefs get to raise the excitement level for their fans ... the agent gets their clients name in the paper and raise the market demand for the players services.

The Bad Guy
03-14-2006, 11:56 PM
then you more than just a little naive


the selling of tickets/merchandise largely depends on public perception.

If fans are excited about the team, they buy more.


the chiefs know this ... everyone know this


if you don't think that the chiefs would bring in a couple of big name free agents to drum up excitement then you are sadly mistaken.


how often they do it is the only real question, because they do it.

I think the backlash if you don't sign the big ticket free agent is far worse than the excitment it generates.

I think certain players the Chiefs bring in fall into this category. Like a Troy Vincent, but I don't think Rocky Bernard or Will Allen were brought in for people just to get excited over.

ChiefsKing
03-15-2006, 12:03 AM
then you more than just a little naive


the selling of tickets/merchandise largely depends on public perception.

If fans are excited about the team, they buy more.


the chiefs know this ... everyone know this


if you don't think that the chiefs would bring in a couple of big name free agents to drum up excitement then you are sadly mistaken.


how often they do it is the only real question, because they do it.



Its the same reason why they will interview some players in the draft that should go top 10 and we will never have a real shot at getting....because you never know. Plus, it is good to check out someone who you might have to be playing against later. ROFL

Frankie
03-15-2006, 12:08 AM
Forgive me for not having paid too much attention. But has Bernard been in the Probowl?

Mr. Laz
03-15-2006, 12:09 AM
I think the backlash if you don't sign the big ticket free agent is far worse than the excitment it generates.

I think certain players the Chiefs bring in fall into this category. Like a Troy Vincent, but I don't think Rocky Bernard or Will Allen were brought in for people just to get excited over.
chiefs have been dealing with backlash for years.... they know that the fans are hooked.

we will never no about a specific free agent

but you can bank on the chiefs being business savvy enough to drum up a little "action" to get the fans going.

no doubt in my mind


I think there is a better than average chance the all the terrell owens talk is just hype to give fans hope.

Mr. Laz
03-15-2006, 12:11 AM
Forgive me for not having paid too much attention. But has Bernard been in the Probowl?

don't think so... he's only been in the league 4 years.

and only 1 of those years(2005) was good

Joe Seahawk
03-15-2006, 12:42 AM
Forgive me for not having paid too much attention. But has Bernard been in the Probowl?

No. But then again he's never been a starter, I believe he led all Defensive Tackles in sacks this year even though he was a backup. Tubbs and Darby got most of the snaps this season at tackle for us.. Bernard was a very nice role playing luxury. Craig Terrill also played well this year when he got in there..

dj56dt58
03-15-2006, 10:07 AM
I'd love to get Bernard and Sam Adams. That combo would work great imo.

Mr. Kotter
03-15-2006, 10:13 AM
don't think so... he's only been in the league 4 years.

and only 1 of those years(2005) was good

His other three years would have been better than our present DTs....

FAX
03-15-2006, 10:15 AM
Do Bernard's stats reflect positively on his ability to rush the QB? Sacks? Pressures?

That's what we need.

FAX

Mr. Kotter
03-15-2006, 10:20 AM
Do Bernard's stats reflect positively on his ability to rush the QB? Sacks? Pressures?

That's what we need.

FAX

3.5 in 2004; 8.5 in 2005.....

For a DT, not bad at all....

Mr. Laz
03-15-2006, 11:36 AM
His other three years would have been better than our present DTs....
wasn't saying that he wouldn't be an upgrade ... merely how his stats reflect on the question asked .... pro bowl appearances.

KCChiefsMan
03-15-2006, 11:47 AM
I am not that familiar with Bernard, but his stats are ok for a DT, 9 sacks is pretty good for that position. Can he stop the run as well as pressure the QB? I guess what we really need is a DT that can add pressure to the damn QB

BigChiefFan
03-15-2006, 11:49 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I really believe Bernard would benefit tremendously from a huge NT. I'm concerned that if we sign him, we will ignore that we still need the roadgrader next to him.

Mr. Kotter
03-15-2006, 11:53 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I really believe Bernard would benefit tremendously from a huge NT. I'm concerned that if we sign him, we will ignore that we still need the roadgrader next to him.

6'3", 300 lbs isn't really undersized.....sure, a Mountain to his side would help....but I think Sims/Dalton/Browning would do pretty well along side him.

No, he isn't 340-350 lbs; but we aren't running a 3-4 either.

Chiefnj
03-15-2006, 11:55 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I really believe Bernard would benefit tremendously from a huge NT. I'm concerned that if we sign him, we will ignore that we still need the roadgrader next to him.

He didn't have a big NT next to him in Seattle did he? Isn't the guy who lined up next to him on the hawks more of a DE sized player under 280?

Mr. Kotter
03-15-2006, 11:58 AM
He didn't have a big NT next to him in Seattle did he? Isn't the guy who lined up next to him on the hawks more of a DE sized player under 280?

Yup... :hmmm:

# 91 Chartric Darby
Position: DT
Height: 6-0
Weight: 270

BigChiefFan
03-15-2006, 12:02 PM
He didn't have a big NT next to him in Seattle did he? Isn't the guy who lined up next to him on the hawks more of a DE sized player under 280?
NO. Marcus Tubbs is a HUGE 320 lb. DT.

Mr. Kotter
03-15-2006, 12:04 PM
NO. Marcus Tubbs is a HUGE 320 lb. DT.

Tubbs backed up Bernard, according to their depth chart.

I'm sure there was some rotation, but the chart says Tubbs was backup...

htismaqe
03-15-2006, 12:05 PM
If we're gonna do alot of Cover 2 this season, we don't really need a 340-lb space eater. We need quick guys that can get to the QB.

FAX
03-15-2006, 12:06 PM
If we're gonna do alot of Cover 2 this season, we don't really need a 340-lb space eater. We need quick guys that can get to the QB.

Amen, Mr. htismaqe.

Besides, space eaters can catch your attic on fire.

FAX

Mr. Kotter
03-15-2006, 12:07 PM
Amen, Mr. htismaqe.

Besides, space eaters can catch your attic on fire.

FAX

As long as that fire is lit underneath Sims, Wilkerson, and Siavii.....I'm all for it.

:cuss:

BigChiefFan
03-15-2006, 12:17 PM
If we're gonna do alot of Cover 2 this season, we don't really need a 340-lb space eater. We need quick guys that can get to the QB.
EVERY D-line could use a big NT type. It works in a 3-4 or a 4-3 coverage. ALL teams run and you still need to stop the run up the middle.

htismaqe
03-15-2006, 12:35 PM
EVERY D-line could use a big NT type. It works in a 3-4 or a 4-3 coverage. ALL teams run and you still need to stop the run up the middle.

Lot's of teams stop the run without having a big NT type.

The best of those Tampa Bay teams never had a big NT. Booger was 6'0", 300 lbs. and Sapp was about 310 (he's 300 now).

Ultra Peanut
03-15-2006, 11:10 PM
poo

alanm
03-15-2006, 11:18 PM
And there he goes. :cuss: :banghead: :cuss:
Meanwhile Carl contemplates the lint in his navel.

Line Judge
03-16-2006, 12:20 AM
According to the latest post Bernard is off the board.