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arrowheadnation
03-15-2006, 06:17 PM
I think any "magic" they claimed to have is all but dead now. Stinson and Blaylock are forgoing their senior seasons, and the coach is in some hot water over a misuse of funds. 2 articles below.


Stinson and Blalock To Forgo Their Senior Seasons
Iowa State Not Invited To Postseason; Looking Forward To Next Year

March 15, 2006

AMES, Iowa - Iowa State all-Big 12 guards Curtis Stinson and Will Blalock have announced their intentions for the 2006-07 season. Stinson, a junior from the Bronx, N.Y., and Blalock, a junior from Boston, Mass., will forgo their senior seasons and make themselves available for the NBA Draft.

"I want to thank Coach Morgan, my teammates and the fans for everything they have done for me," Stinson said. "My family is extremely important to me and I want to make sure that my Mom is taken care of. It has been a great ride and I will never forget everybody who has helped me out. Coach Morgan gave me this opportunity. I was not recruited very heavily out of high school. He was always there for me and was loyal to me. I can't thank him enough for that."

Stinson earned all-Big 12 honors for the third-consecutive season in 2005-06, ranking in the top-35 nationally in scoring (19.4 ppg), assists (5.6 apg) and steals (2.4 spg). Stinson ranks 11th on ISU's career scoring charts (1,651 points), fourth on the career steal charts (200) and sixth on the career assist charts (448).

"I want to thank the fans, the students at Iowa State and everybody who has stood by me for these three years," Blalock said. "I also want to thank Coach Morgan for all his help and assistance. I feel like I have played against some of the best players in the nation while competing in the Big 12 and I am ready to test my game at the next level."

Blalock earned third-team all-Big 12 honors this past season after ranking second in the Big 12 and 12th nationally in assists (6.1 apg). Blalock, who has 1,078 career points, ranks fifth all-time on ISU's career assist chart with 464 and is tied for sixth in career steals (177).

"It is immeasurable what these two young men have done for this program and to me personally," Morgan said. "Any success we have had as a team or I have had as a head coach at Iowa State, they are directly responsible for. It is without question that they are both great players and will have success at the next level. Myself, my family and our fans will always have great memories of what Will and Curtis have done for ISU."


Operation disturbs school, NCAA officials; coaches 'in jeopardy'
March 15, 2006
By Gregg Doyel
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer

An elaborate recruiting operation that has steered more than $100,000 to a Los Angeles business founded by a prominent junior college coach has stunned the NCAA, the NABC and athletics directors at some of the Division I schools involved.

"I think (any involved) coach would be putting his job in jeopardy," said Jim Haney, president of the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC).

"This is a concern," said Iowa State athletics director Jamie Pollard.

"I don't want to get into this conversation," said Iona athletics director Pat Lyons.

"I'd imagine we'd be looking into that," said an NCAA official who asked not to be named.

"Oh my Lord," said Mountain State coach Bob Bolen. "Where did all that money go?"

Bolen's question, ultimately, is at the heart of CBS SportsLine.com's investigation into a nationwide system that delivers junior college players to Division I schools. Those schools then play each other in paid "guarantee" games, with a tidy profit going to the company that arranged those games -- a company co-founded by Los Angeles City College coach Mike Miller.

The company is called D1 Scheduling.

According to corporation records filed with the state of California, Miller and Bruce B. Herman founded D1 Scheduling on Aug. 19, 2004. When first asked about D1 Scheduling, Miller told CBS SportsLine.com, "You need to call them." Miller later conceded that D1 Scheduling had been his brainchild, but said he's no longer involved.

Schools connected to D1 Scheduling and LACC include Iowa State, Iona, Louisiana Tech, Tennessee State, Howard and Norfolk State. All have signed players from LACC. All have scheduled games between themselves through D1 Scheduling. And though few teams nationwide use outside help to schedule games, D1 Scheduling has turned a business without a market into a profit of at least $150,000 since August 2004.

"I can't imagine an athletics director would want a third party doing the scheduling," said the NABC's Haney.

CBS SportsLine.com's investigation shows Iowa State as the operation's centerpiece. Under coach Wayne Morgan, ISU has used D1 Scheduling to arrange guarantee games only when they involve other schools who recruit LACC players. Iowa State has one LACC product, Anthony Davis.

Pollard, who came to Iowa State from Wisconsin in September, inherited those contracts from Morgan and the previous administration. Pollard said he didn't know about the link between Iowa State, D1 Scheduling and LACC until it was laid out by CBS SportsLine.com.

"Iowa State is above this," Pollard said. "Other than the Anthony Davis piece, I don't think (Iowa State) did anything wrong. But the fact that we're associated with something that certainly has the appearance that is less than desirable ... that's a concern."

Through freedom of information requests, CBS SportsLine.com obtained game contracts from the public schools involved. This is how Iowa State has helped funnel money to D1 Scheduling:


Last season, Iowa State paid D1 Scheduling $40,000 for a home game against Tennessee State. D1 Scheduling paid Tennessee State $10,000. Considering the going rate for such games is at least $40,000, why would TSU sacrifice 75 percent to D1 Scheduling? Perhaps because three of its best players -- Wayne Arnold, Clarence Matthews and Kareem Grant -- came from LACC. Tennessee State AD Teresa Phillips didn't respond to multiple interview requests. Pollard said he's uncomfortable with Iowa State's connection.

"We're associated because we're on the other side of the contact, but if I called Tennessee State (for a game) right now, it would cost me $50,000 or $60,000," he said. "What you're indicating here is (some ISU opponents) were taking far less money than I'd thought ... for another reason that's not a good situation. They're taking nearly $50,000 below market. That's a scary thought isn't it? What it sounds like they're getting is an influx of players."

This season, Iowa State played host to a four-team Thanksgiving tournament. Records show Iowa State paid D1 Scheduling $125,000 to provide Iona, Howard and Portland State. Howard received $13,000, Portland State $15,000. Iona, a private school, declined to divulge its guarantee. If Iona's guarantee was anything like those received by Howard and Portland State, D1 Scheduling would have kept more than $80,000 of Iowa State's $125,000 check. While Iona has no LACC players on roster this season, Gaels coach Jeff Ruland received a commitment from at least five players from LACC since 1999 (Kenya Carruthers, Leland Matthews, Jermaine Small, Norman Simmons and Julian Sensley). Howard also recruited Simmons, who never got eligible there, while Portland State has recruited LACC players in recent years but never landed one. Ruland ignored multiple interview requests by SportsLine.com. Howard and Portland State have changed coaches since those games were arranged. Current Howard coach Gil Jackson said he inherited that $13,000 game at Iowa State for No. 25, 2005, and couldn't believe it.

"Guarantees at that level start at $40,000 and upward," Jackson said. "Now that I'm here, we won't be playing any more games like that."

Also this season, Iowa State played host to an exhibition with Division II Bemidji State of Minnesota, and a regular-season game with NAIA Mountain State of West Virginia. Iowa State used D1 Scheduling for both, sending D1 Scheduling checks totaling $50,000. D1 Scheduling then sent checks totaling $9,000 to Bemidji State and Mountain State, clearing $41,000 for itself. Why would Bemidji and Mountain agree to such a deal? Perhaps because each program has had an LACC player in the last year, Rodney Williams (Bemidji) and Tony Key (Mountain). Mountain's Bolen said he had no idea D1 Scheduling was profiting so much. "I feel stupid," he said. "I wish I got more of it."

For next season, Iowa State is planning another four-team tournament. Pollard said ISU will pay D1 Scheduling $150,000 to find three teams, including Louisiana Tech. Tech athletics director Jim Oakes said his school's cut would be $35,000, meaning a $15,000 profit for D1 Scheduling. Asked why his program -- which includes forwards Chad McKenzie and Michael Wilds from LACC -- was using D1 Scheduling, Oakes deferred comment until speaking with coach Keith Richard.

Several hours later, Oakes said: "Coach Richard assured me he scheduled the tournament at Iowa State in order to play three games, two of which would be on a neutral court. There was certainly no quid pro quo involved in the recruitment of any junior college player."
NCAA spokesman Kent Barrett said his organization doesn't comment on potential recruiting violations at specific schools, but a ranking NCAA official contacted by CBS SportsLine.com said the NCAA would look into the link between its member schools, D1 Scheduling and LACC.

Violations could be found, the NCAA official said, if Miller is determined to be a "booster" of Iowa State, Louisiana Tech, etc., due to his assistance in scheduling. A school booster cannot be involved in recruiting.

Miller and Herman were pleasant in interviews with CBS SportsLine.com and said D1 Scheduling is not in cahoots with Iowa State or other schools to arrange paid games in exchange for LACC players. They noted LACC has sent players to other schools -- including its best player in years, Sensley, to Hawaii -- that haven't used D1 Scheduling. And they noted Davis first committed to Morgan when he was coaching Long Beach State, which was before Davis attended LACC.

"If the angle you're going at is there's some kind of quid pro quo -- there isn't," Miller said. "Business is business, and people are allowed to make money. Looks can be deceiving, because there's no quid pro quo here."

When asked to name a school that has used D1 Scheduling but has no ties to LACC, Herman named three: Kentucky, Nevada and Fresno State. Within 10 minutes, CBS SportsLine.com was able to find connections to LACC:

Kentucky: For $55,000, D1 Scheduling arranged Kentucky's Dec. 23 game with Iona, which has recruited LACC players for years. Iona wouldn't say how much of the $55,000 it received. Kentucky executive associate athletics director Rob Mullens said his school was struggling to find a game on that specific date but heard Iona was available. When he called Iona, Mullens said, he was told the Gaels would play the game -- if Kentucky would go through D1 Scheduling.

"We'd never heard of D1 Scheduling," Mullens said. "If D1 Scheduling is doing something inappropriate, we'd never knowingly enter into that kind of arrangement."

Fresno State: For $45,000, D1 Scheduling arranged Fresno State's Jan. 3 game with Iona. Iona won't say how much it received.

Nevada: For $60,000, D1 Scheduling arranged Nevada's Dec. 27 game with Norfolk State, which signed LACC's Casey Gordon in May. As of Wednesday, Norfolk State hadn't provided its contract information. Nevada coach Mark Fox said he was looking in October for a game.

"I don't know how we got connected with Norfolk," Fox said. "I do know Norfolk sent us a contract from D1 Scheduling to finalize details. I'd never heard of them."

Told of those connections, Herman said: "You've got to understand, Miller's got a great program. He has two state championships out of LACC, and his (players) are desirable."

Herman described himself and Miller as "businessmen (who have) owned lots of businesses together. He's a longtime friend of mine, probably 26 years. We used to wheel and deal, trying to make money, going through school."

Another way Miller once made money was through exhibition games.

He said he helped found the L.A. Stars, which played Iowa State in 2003 for $15,000. From 2000-03, the L.A. Stars played San Diego State, which in 2000 signed the best player ever to play for Miller at LACC, future NBA forward Randy Holcomb.

Because of scenarios like that -- Division I schools paying exhibition teams, then signing players connected to those exhibition teams -- the NCAA legislated out such exhibitions in the summer of 2004. Two months later, Miller created D1 Scheduling.

NABC president Haney said his organization champions the cause of coaches -- but couldn't defend a coach who has participated in this particular operation.

"To me, it sounds like one could make the case that (a Division I coach is) paying the intermediary -- which in this scenario we're talking about a junior college coach -- money to get you a player," Haney said. "In essence, you're putting money into the hands of a third party that is involved in recruiting. That's the way it looks, and on the surface it would appear to be problematic at best.

"I think the NCAA staff is smart enough to figure that out. And again, I think it definitely creates problems. If you're an athletics director and you find out this is how you're doing your scheduling, I think the coach would be putting his (job) in jeopardy."

Iowa State's Pollard said he would be speaking with Morgan about D1 Scheduling, LACC and Anthony Davis.

"We'll have a big discussion about it," Pollard said. "And my guess is there will be other discussions around the country after you write your story."

Pitt Gorilla
03-15-2006, 06:43 PM
This D1 scheduling thing looks pretty bad; I would guess that the players received some cash to sign with the teams.

ROYC75
03-15-2006, 06:49 PM
Rut - Row..... This looks like an ugly thing a brewing .

CoMoChief
03-15-2006, 06:55 PM
Blaylock wont be drafted. Stinson might though. I hope Will has fun playing overseas.

Braincase
03-15-2006, 07:19 PM
Paging Tim Floyd...

jspchief
03-15-2006, 07:25 PM
The story about D1 Scheduling isn't true, at least in regards to ISU's involvement. The player in question (Anthony Davis) had commited to Wayne Morgan at SDSU and again at ISU before D1 Scheduling was even created as a company.

Without the player connection, there's nothing illegal or against the rules about any of it. In fact, the money ISU paid for guaranteed games was actually right in line for the type of competition. The fact that the scheduling company was taking such a large cut is unfortunate for the small schools, but again perfectly legal and within the rules.

Saulbadguy
03-15-2006, 07:49 PM
**** Iowa State.

Brianfo
03-15-2006, 07:52 PM
**** Iowa State.

Saulbadguy
03-15-2006, 07:56 PM
Stinson was a punk bitch who is going to get schooled in the NBA.

Phobia
03-15-2006, 07:59 PM
Klay Edwards posts at WPI frequently. I think he stuck around Ames. I'll have to ask his take on the situation.

Saulbadguy
03-15-2006, 07:59 PM
Personally, I think Wayne Morgan is in some serious shit.

nychief
03-15-2006, 08:40 PM
Iowa State AD responds to recruiting scam allegations


March 15, 2006
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports


DES MOINES, Iowa -- Iowa State and a number of college basketball programs have reportedly been involved in a possible recruiting scam that steered more than $100,000 to a Los Angeles business run by a junior college coach.
A CBS SportsLine.com story on Wednesday alleges that D1 Scheduling, a company founded by Los Angeles Community College coach Mike Miller, might have been delivering LACC players to Division I schools that paid the company to arrange games.

The report said that D1 Scheduling turned a profit by taking a significant cut of the money paid by schools looking for opponents. Schools on the receiving end made far less than they would have if the games were made without a matchmaker.

Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard released a statement saying the school had no knowledge of potential improprieties when they entered into scheduling agreements with the company, and that Iowa State will no longer use D1 Scheduling because of the appearance of impropriety.

"We're extremely disappointed that our institution has been cast in a negative light as a result of our men's basketball scheduling practices the past three years," Pollard said. "I honestly believe that Iowa State University did not knowingly do anything wrong as it relates to scheduling these non-conference games."

According to the report, Iowa State, Iona, Louisiana Tech, Tennessee State, Howard and Norfolk State have used D1 Scheduling to arrange matchups with each other. Those schools all have signed players from LACC.

CBS SportsLine.com reported that Iowa State appeared to be the centerpiece of the operation, and that under coach Wayne Morgan, ISU used D1 Scheduling to arrange guarantee games only when the other school also recruited LACC players.

Most Division I schools do not use outside help when scheduling games.

According to the report, Iowa State paid D1 Scheduling $40,000 for a home game against Tennessee State last season. But the company only gave Tennessee State $10,000, much less than it could've made by simply arranging the game directly with Iowa State. Three of Tennessee State's top players -- Wayne Arnold, Clarence Matthews and Kareem Grant -- came from LACC.

This season, Iowa State played host to a four-team tournament in November. Records show that Iowa State paid D1 Scheduling $125,000 to provide Iona, Howard and Portland State as opponents, but that Howard only received $13,000 and Portland State $15,000 from the company. Iona didn't not disclose how much D1 Scheduling gave the school to play the Cyclones.

Iowa State has one LACC player in its roster: reserve Anthony Davis.

"Iowa State is above this," Pollard told CBS SportsLine.com. "Other than the Anthony Davis piece, I don't think (Iowa State) did anything wrong. But the fact that we're associated with something that certainly has the appearance that is less than desirable ... that's a concern."

Morgan said he did not commit any violations when he recruited Davis to Iowa State. He said D1 Scheduling was contracted to help Iowa State improve its non-conference schedule -- not recruit players.

nychief
03-15-2006, 08:41 PM
"It has not been easy to get highly regarded teams to Ames for non-conference games," Morgan said in a statement released Wednesday night. "D-1 Scheduling enabled us to secure a good non-conference schedule at the median market price.
Everything that I or Iowa State has done relative to scheduling has been straightforward, honest, and clearly within the bounds of what is normal in scheduling."

Miller defended D1 Scheduling and its relationship with Iowa State to CBS SportsLine.com.

"If the angle you're going at is there's some kind of quid pro quo -- there isn't," Miller said. "Business is business, and people are allowed to make money. Looks can be deceiving, because there's no quid pro quo here."

NCAA spokesman Kent Barrett told CBS SportsLine.com that the organization doesn't comment on potential recruiting violations at specific schools.

Phone messages left with Miller and the NCAA by the Associated Press were not immediately returned Wednesday.
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Saulbadguy
03-15-2006, 08:42 PM
He's full of shit.

nychief
03-15-2006, 08:43 PM
He's full of shit.

they are ****ed, this is going to set back the program 10 years.

leviw
03-15-2006, 08:44 PM
Blaylock is worthless. Horribly overrated. Stinson will be decent in the NBA, because that's his game. Too bad he's a bitch and his NBA teammates will probably kill him before the All-Star break.

nychief
03-15-2006, 08:50 PM
http://sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9310118

jspchief
03-15-2006, 09:00 PM
they are ****ed, this is going to set back the program 10 years.For what? Hiring a scheduling service? Every team in the NCAA uses them.

nychief
03-15-2006, 09:04 PM
For what? Hiring a scheduling service? Every team in the NCAA uses them.


read the story. I post the link to the actual story. And NO, not every school uses them, in fact, few do.

jspchief
03-15-2006, 09:08 PM
read the story. I post the link to the actual story. And NO, not every school uses them, in fact, few do.I've read the story. And the only impropriety is the allegation of the involvement of Anthony Davis, which is false because Anthony Davis commited to ISU before that company even existed.

And yes, a ton of schools use scheduling services. And the 125K for the three teams in the tournament is right in line for lower mid major teams... about 40-45K per team. The money ISU paid for those match-ups is no different than any team pays to bring in pre-season opponents.

This story will fade away, or in the least ISU will be cleared. Quote me on it.

nychief
03-15-2006, 09:09 PM
I've read the story. And the only impropriety is the allegation of the involvement of Anthony Davis, which is false because Anthony Davis commited to ISU before that company even existed.

And yes, a ton of schools use scheduling services. And the 125K for the three teams in the tournament is right in line for lower mid major teams... about 40-45K per team. The money ISU paid for those match-ups is no different than any team pays to bring in pre-season opponents.

This story will fade away, or in the least ISU will be cleared. Quote me on it.

all except the missing money. You are just repeating what that idiot AD (who is shitting himself right now) said in the story. These things get worse before they get better, as you know. This is a big deal.

nychief
03-15-2006, 09:11 PM
And yes, a ton of schools use scheduling services.


And though few teams nationwide use outside help to schedule games, D1 Scheduling has turned a business without a market into a profit of at least $150,000 since August 2004.

"I can't imagine an athletics director would want a third party doing the scheduling," said the NABC's Haney.

jspchief
03-15-2006, 09:16 PM
all except the missing money. You are just repeating what that idiot AD (who is shitting himself right now) said in the story. These things get worse before they get better, as you know. This is a big deal.Money missing? It's the money D1 profited off their service. ISU didn't give that money to D1 with any agreement about how much the other team was making.

Did D1 rip off the small schools? Sure. Is it illegal or in violation of rules? No.

And schools use scheduling services. I don't care what the guy in the article says. Anyone that follows college sports closely understands that.

SBK
03-15-2006, 09:44 PM
this is going to set back the program 10 years.

As an ISU fan I can assure you that this is what set the program back 10 years, not this garbage with Morgan.

http://www.slamonline.com/links/eustachy.jpg

nychief
03-15-2006, 09:50 PM
Money missing? It's the money D1 profited off their service. ISU didn't give that money to D1 with any agreement about how much the other team was making.

Did D1 rip off the small schools? Sure. Is it illegal or in violation of rules? No.

And schools use scheduling services. I don't care what the guy in the article says. Anyone that follows college sports closely understands that.


you have to learn to read. if they are sending players along from LACC for that profit - i.e. the schools are taking a lower school fee to do these guarntee games - then they are essentially PAYING for players.

I understand the glass is half full stuff, but come on.

Oh, barry bonds never took steroids either.

jspchief
03-15-2006, 09:55 PM
you have to learn to read. if they are sending players along from LACC for that profit - i.e. the schools are taking a lower school fee to do these guarntee games - then they are essentially PAYING for players.

I understand the glass is half full stuff, but come on.

Oh, barry bonds never took steroids either.So what was in it for ISU? Maybe D1 had an arrangement with these other schools, but there is no link to ISU. The one player that might be a link is a benchwarmer that commited to Wayne Morgan more than a year before D1 existed.

Skip Towne
03-15-2006, 09:58 PM
In my 50 years of watching college sports I've never heard of a scheduling service. What, one school's AD can't call another schools AD? Very suspicous to me.

jspchief
03-15-2006, 10:04 PM
In my 50 years of watching college sports I've never heard of a scheduling service. What, one school's AD can't call another schools AD? Very suspicous to me.They haven't been around for that long. Maybe 5-10 years.

Can ADs exchange phone calls? Sure they can (actually coaches normally do that work, then get approval from the AD). But it's often easier to go through an agent that has a list of teams, and can match dates and wants. I was being hyperbolic when I said every team uses them, but a lot of teams do.

Local media has already torn this story to shreds. This is not going to stick to ISU.

htismaqe
03-16-2006, 07:19 AM
ISU didn't do anything wrong and these allegations won't stick.

But this, combined with the disappointing season and the departures of Stinson and Blaylock WILL end up costing Morgan his job.

Saulbadguy
03-16-2006, 07:21 AM
Bwah hah. The Clowns apologists are out in full force. All 2 of them, that is.

Why haven't they fired Morgan yet?

Brianfo
03-16-2006, 07:45 AM
Even with this egg all over their face, I would still rather support ISU than be a K-State homo or I mean homer!!!!!!!

jspchief
03-16-2006, 08:06 AM
Bwah hah. The Clowns apologists are out in full force. All 2 of them, that is.

Why haven't they fired Morgan yet?I think Morgan will get one more year, although IMO his only chance at keeping his job beyond that left with Stinson and Blaylock.

Morgan is a shitty coach, but a good recruiter. Recruits won't do you much good if you can't control them on the court.

leviw
03-16-2006, 08:17 AM
I think Morgan will get one more year, although IMO his only chance at keeping his job beyond that left with Stinson and Blaylock.

Morgan is a shitty coach, but a good recruiter. Recruits won't do you much good if you can't control them on the court.

You know what's hilarious? No matter who is hired, K-State or Missouri could very easily have the second-best coach in the Big 12 North before he/she even coaches a game next season.

1) Bill Self
TIE 2) KSU coach TBD
TIE 2) MU coach TBD
4) Ricardo Patton
5) Wayne Morgan
6) Barry Collier

jspchief
03-16-2006, 08:28 AM
You know what's hilarious? No matter who is hired, K-State or Missouri could very easily have the second-best coach in the Big 12 North before he/she even coaches a game next season.

1) Bill Self
TIE 2) KSU coach TBD
TIE 2) MU coach TBD
4) Ricardo Patton
5) Wayne Morgan
6) Barry CollierNo doubt. ISU has a history of great coaches, but Wayne Morgan does not fit in that category. If he hadn't pulled a rabbit out of his ass in his first year, he would probably be gone already.

htismaqe
03-16-2006, 08:31 AM
You know what's hilarious? No matter who is hired, K-State or Missouri could very easily have the second-best coach in the Big 12 North before he/she even coaches a game next season.

1) Bill Self
TIE 2) KSU coach TBD
TIE 2) MU coach TBD
4) Ricardo Patton
5) Wayne Morgan
6) Barry Collier

K-State could get Bob Huggins...talk about a power shift...

leviw
03-16-2006, 08:37 AM
K-State could get Bob Huggins...talk about a power shift...

We'll see. Mizzou will make a run at him, too.

arrowheadnation
03-16-2006, 11:25 AM
K-State will NOT get a big name coach. If they can't get a big name coach for their football team, which is a better job by leaps and bounds than their basketball position, they're not going to get one for the basketball team. Sorry lavender felines...it's the cold hard truth.

leviw
03-16-2006, 11:27 AM
K-State will NOT get a big name coach. If they can't get a big name coach for their football team, which is a better job by leaps and bounds than their basketball position, they're not going to get one for the basketball team. Sorry lavender felines...it's the cold hard truth.

There's a lot more "big name" basketball coaches available than "big name" football coaches. Think about it.

arrowheadnation
03-16-2006, 11:42 AM
^^^That may be true, but I still don't think they'll get one of them.

Saulbadguy
03-16-2006, 12:58 PM
I think i'd put Retardo Ricardo over Wayne Morgan, but just slightly. I'm not sure. Maybe a tie.

TRR
03-16-2006, 01:15 PM
I don't feel sorry for Iowa State in the least bit. Until they stop recruiting trash out of New York, they'll always be faced with players leaving early, players playing for themselves, and a Coach who cannot control any of it.

htismaqe
03-16-2006, 07:39 PM
K-State will NOT get a big name coach. If they can't get a big name coach for their football team, which is a better job by leaps and bounds than their basketball position, they're not going to get one for the basketball team. Sorry lavender felines...it's the cold hard truth.

They could have gotten a big name coach if they wanted to. Instead, they got the guy they WANTED.

SBK
03-17-2006, 12:10 AM
Looks like Morgan got fired tonight.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2372045

Saulbadguy
03-17-2006, 04:19 AM
Looks like Morgan got fired tonight.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2372045
NO!!!!

Postal_clone
03-17-2006, 04:52 AM
Morgan and all assistants got canned tonight

Cochise
03-17-2006, 01:20 PM
:hmmm: