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tyton75
03-19-2006, 01:07 PM
Lions | Team checking into trade possibilities for Harrington
Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:10:10 -0800

Mike O'Hara, of the Detroit News, reports the Detroit Lions are checking to see if any team may be interested in trading for disgruntled QB Joey Harrington. O'Hara estimates the Lions could receive a fourth- or fifth-round draft pick in exchange for Harrington.


Chiefs | Harrington could go to Kansas City
Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:10:20 -0800

Mike O'Hara, of the Detroit News, reports Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington might end up with the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs recently lost their backup quarterback to free agency and starting QB Trent Green turns 36-years old in July.


Personally.. I think 4th rounder and a restructured (friendly, incentive-laden) contract would be great

The Bad Guy
03-19-2006, 01:09 PM
Not a chance.

If Ramsey is only worth a 6th, Harrington is worth as much.

BigMeatballDave
03-19-2006, 01:10 PM
I'd be OK with a 4th.

banyon
03-19-2006, 01:10 PM
exactly. not a 4th. We actually do pretty well with our 4th round pick usually.

Fat Elvis
03-19-2006, 01:10 PM
Not a chance.

If Ramsey is only worth a 6th, Harrington is worth as much.


Bingo. The market has been set.

Dunit35
03-19-2006, 01:11 PM
No kidding. He will be worth the same as Ramsey.

HolmeZz
03-19-2006, 01:12 PM
We don't have a 4th.

BigMeatballDave
03-19-2006, 01:12 PM
Not a chance.

If Ramsey is only worth a 6th, Harrington is worth as much.True. But, I think Wasington really wanted to unload him...

tyton75
03-19-2006, 01:15 PM
We don't have a 4th.


wow.. draft nerds unite!! :)

I was just stating that it was the going rate.. a 4th or 5th... I would be completely fine with a 5th... or if we should trade around and obtain a 4th somehow.. I would probably be ok with that

Harrington isnt' that bad.. he just had a putrid O-Line.. and to learn some savvy from Trent could be really valuable

58-4ever
03-19-2006, 01:17 PM
No higher than a fifth, and I still think we should try and grab Croyle if he is available from the 3rd round on.

BigMeatballDave
03-19-2006, 01:22 PM
I can never keep track of what or how many selections we have from year to year...

Rausch
03-19-2006, 01:31 PM
True. But, I think Wasington really wanted to unload him...

So do the lions...

Lurch
03-19-2006, 01:32 PM
Do it.

CoMoChief
03-19-2006, 01:32 PM
Herm is in place of the 4th round pick. I dont like this at all, we need all of the draft picks we can get. This team needs to rebuild soon.

Sure-Oz
03-19-2006, 01:37 PM
He likely will be released, no more than a 6th rounder should be offered imo.

wolfpack0735
03-19-2006, 01:37 PM
a 5th or 6th andtwo tickets to a royals game.

ct
03-19-2006, 01:38 PM
5th at the most, should be a 6th.

The Bad Guy
03-19-2006, 01:38 PM
True. But, I think Wasington really wanted to unload him...

And Detroit doesn't?

They signed two quarterbacks and according to recent reports, Harrington sabotaged their QB school.

Yeah, sure sounds like they want to keep him.

RedThat
03-19-2006, 01:42 PM
I'd give up a 5th for him. Sure. Why not?

He has some potential. I don't think Detroit was the right scenary for him. If he comes to KC, he has a great line, and some good tools around him. Plus, a 5th round pick for a backup QB? eh....yup, Id do it.

I don't like Huard. And Casey Printers is too raw.

Rain Man
03-19-2006, 01:42 PM
What did Harrington do at QB school?

BigMeatballDave
03-19-2006, 01:45 PM
And Detroit doesn't?

They signed two quarterbacks and according to recent reports, Harrington sabotaged their QB school.

Yeah, sure sounds like they want to keep him.I said I'd be OK with a 4th. I'd hope we'd get him with a 6th...

The Bad Guy
03-19-2006, 02:00 PM
I said I'd be OK with a 4th. I'd hope we'd get him with a 6th...

You said the Redskins really wanted to move Ramsey, which is why they settled for a 6th.

The Lions are in the same boat.

OnTheWarpath58
03-19-2006, 02:02 PM
For a R6, I guess.....

But I'd rather us keep our picks and try to land Croyle.

JMO.

Sure-Oz
03-19-2006, 02:03 PM
You said the Redskins really wanted to move Ramsey, which is why they settled for a 6th.

The Lions are in the same boat.
exactly...

You think he'll be cut or outright traded for a 5 or 6th?

jspchief
03-19-2006, 02:07 PM
F*ck using a draft pick. The guy is going to be cut anyway.

Lurch
03-19-2006, 02:12 PM
F*ck using a draft pick. The guy is going to be cut anyway.

Ideally, yes. But we sure could use a backup and QBOTF. FA might drive his contract demands higher than you'd expect.

milkman
03-19-2006, 02:24 PM
Herm is in place of the 4th round pick. I dont like this at all, we need all of the draft picks we can get. This team needs to rebuild soon.

Hell yeah, I'd trade Hermie for Joey!
I'd throw in Gunt, too! :D

Iowanian
03-19-2006, 02:25 PM
Let them Cut him, and sign him to a new, performance based 3-4 year contract.

No lost draft pick, and much more reasonable than a 1st round pick contract.

milkman
03-19-2006, 02:27 PM
What did Harrington do at QB school?

Depending on what you believe, he either went to the QB school and realized he simply no longer cared to be in Detroit, and was less than entusiastic, or he went there with a bad attitude that undermined the school's efforts.

Mr. Laz
03-19-2006, 02:29 PM
Ideally, yes. But we sure could use a backup and QBOTF. FA might drive his contract demands higher than you'd expect.

joey harrington's base salary is set to be 4.5 million this year.......


how much higher is it going to go??


heck no ....... no trade unless he agrees to a minimum type contract.


and even then no more than a 6th rounder

milkman
03-19-2006, 02:32 PM
joey harrington's base salary is set to be 4.5 million this year.......


how much higher is it going to go??


heck no ....... no trade unless he agrees to a minimum type contract.


and even then no more than a 6th rounder

I don't think there's any question that a trade would require a new contract.

And I agree with the consensus, no more than a 6th.

tyton75
03-19-2006, 03:20 PM
I say we just trade them 50pounds of meat like that pro soccer team in Europe

chiefqueen
03-19-2006, 03:24 PM
News Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We DON'T have a 4th round pick this year.

milkman
03-19-2006, 03:29 PM
News Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We DON'T have a 4th round pick this year.

News Flash!!!!!!!!!!

That's already been pointed out a couple or three times in this thread.

Mr. Laz
03-19-2006, 03:38 PM
I don't think there's any question that a trade would require a new contract.

And I agree with the consensus, no more than a 6th.

why would Harrington agree to rework his contract instead of just forcing detroit to cut him?

Sure-Oz
03-19-2006, 03:38 PM
News Flash!!!!!!!!!!

That's already been pointed out a couple or three times in this thread.
News Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I gotta piss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

milkman
03-19-2006, 03:49 PM
why would Harrington agree to rework his contract instead of just forcing detroit to cut him?

Well now, that's a question I can't answer.

The premise of my post is that Carl won't agree to a trade without a new contract.

If Joey decides he'd rather make the Lions cut him, then that changes things.

milkman
03-19-2006, 03:50 PM
News Flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I gotta piss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

News Flash!!!!!!!!

I don't care!

Sure-Oz
03-19-2006, 04:26 PM
News Flash!!!!!!!!

I don't care!
Ya cared just enough to respond didn't ya. :p

milkman
03-19-2006, 04:30 PM
Ya cared just enough to respond didn't ya. :p

Of course I did.

I couldn't just let you piss on my news flash!

Sure-Oz
03-19-2006, 05:25 PM
Of course I did.

I couldn't just let you piss on my news flash!
ROFL

Simplex3
03-19-2006, 06:38 PM
I would give our second for Harrington. He can't be any worse than the bust we would draft there anyway.

Mr. Laz
03-19-2006, 06:47 PM
I would give our second for Harrington. He can't be any worse than the bust we would draft there anyway.

there is probably not going to be ANY trade for Joey Harrington unless it's a team that's going to give him a shot to start.

his contract is prohibitive to being a backup and the chances of him agreeing to a contract reduction are slim and none.

why agree to a pay cut when he can become a free agent and go to whichever team he wants.

SNR
03-19-2006, 07:05 PM
I can see it now. After Trent retires Killian suddenly turns into the all-pro and leads the team for 6 or 7 seasons.

Harrington, like Collins, was a high draft pick (Collins was a 2nd rounder) and both QBs were terrible with their first teams they played with.

Let Harrington be the next Odd Todd.

MAKE IT HAPPEN, CARL!

CoMoChief
03-19-2006, 07:09 PM
I would give our second for Harrington. He can't be any worse than the bust we would draft there anyway.



Based on CP draft record one would in fact think that. Maybe Herm being a former scout can maybe be an edge in drafting players. Not to mention this is a draft year where there is a ton of talent in the 2nd-3rd rounds. Hopefully that will come to our advantage. I just hope we dont waste another first day draft pick on a "project".

Rausch
03-19-2006, 07:10 PM
I can see it now. After Trent retires Killian suddenly turns into the all-pro and leads the team for 6 or 7 seasons.

Harrington, like Collins, was a high draft pick (Collins was a 2nd rounder) and both QBs were terrible with their first teams they played with.

Let Harrington be the next Odd Todd.

MAKE IT HAPPEN, CARL!

But will he punk a b!tch for a free pitcher?...

SNR
03-19-2006, 07:13 PM
But will he punk a b!tch for a free pitcher?...No, but I'm fairly sure he can down a Sex on the Beach like Todd can

Rausch
03-19-2006, 07:18 PM
No, but I'm fairly sure he can down a Sex on the Beach like Todd can

Ewwww...

That's not 0dd...that's just queer.

johnson&green
03-19-2006, 07:20 PM
I think that the chiefs should try and get him because trent is getting old for a football player and they are goin to need another QB and joey harrington would fit the offence very well, i think that this is trents last year in the NFL.

SNR
03-19-2006, 07:33 PM
...that's just queer.Tho ith Harrington :thailor:

melbar
03-19-2006, 08:50 PM
Harrington was a starter for 4 years and a ...what top 2 pick? 5 is wonderfull to sit a year and learn from Green.

jspchief
03-20-2006, 07:17 AM
why agree to a pay cut when he can become a free agent and go to whichever team he wants.Almost every trade in the NFL includes a new contract. Rarely do teams just inherit the existing contract.

Harrington is going to take a pay cut no matter what. Whether he's traded or cut. If a team makes an offer to his liking, it might be safer than testing FA waters for him.

Chief Henry
03-20-2006, 08:13 AM
I would like to see Harrington in KC uniform. he could learn alot from Trent Green and take over in a year or two.

Braincase
03-20-2006, 10:38 AM
Oakland should trade their entire draft for a chance to get Harrington. Seriously.