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Spicy McHaggis
03-24-2006, 11:08 PM
Had a little time to kill on the train from St. Louis so I threw together a few mocks. I only did the picks I knew that the Chiefs had so there aren't any compensation picks included yet. Let me know what ya think...

1st - Tamba Hali, DE Penn State. - Outside of Mario Williams this guy is the most complete DE in the draft. He plays the run well and can rush the passer. He's shorter but plays with good balance. Chiefs get this guy and I do the same dance I did when we got DJ last year. No, I can't tell you how it goes. You'll just have to wait.

2nd - DT Claude Wroten LSU/DT Jonathan Lewis VT - I'll admit it. Wroten would be great here but I'm worried he'll be gone. He's smaller (6-1, 295ish) but I loved what I saw from him in college. Penetrates the line and gets in the backfield. A great 3 technique DT. If he's gone Jonathan Lewis would be a decent pick. He sometimes got knocked back off the line but I think with better technique he can overcome it. Plays with a great "motor" as the draft boys like to say.

3rd - Richard Marshall CB, Fresno State - Fast, can turn with guys and can jump. He's not bad in run support either. He can come in and challenge for the nickel role and with experience a starting one down the road. Really like Alabama QB Brodie Croyle here too if he's available.

4th - Herm Edwards. I realized when I was doing this there is still a lot of value in the 4th round. Oh well, hopefully it works out.

5th - Drew Olson QB, UCLA - Not fast but has a big time arm. Accurate on shorter throws too. From interviews he seems confident and to possess the leadership qualities you want in a QB. He has a few health concerns but he stayed upright this year. Honestly probably better than a 5th rounder which is why not having that 4th sucks. I'd hate to miss out on Croyle, Whitehurst and Olson.

6th - Taurean Henderson RB Texas Tech - My Big XII guy. Would be a great compliment to LJ if/when Priest is gone. Used to catching the ball as well as running with it.

7th - Darrell Adams DE Villanova - My friend who attends 'Nova actually brought this guy to my attention. He's a perfect late rounder, big, strong and decently quick for his size but hasn't played the best competition. Might have a shot making it in the rotation.

milkman
03-24-2006, 11:37 PM
I'd like Marshall in the third, but I'd be surprised if he lasted that long.

I also like Olson in the 5th.
The kid showed a lot of poise and leadership late in games in leading UCLA to those come from behind wins late in games.

I've seen him go as high as the third round, and as low as the sixth round, so who knows where he might go.

Overall, I like your mock.

Rudy lost the toss
03-25-2006, 01:52 AM
I'll go.

1st Round- Tamba Hali DE Penn state- although Cromartie seems like a hell of a prospect, Hali gets the edge here.

2nd- Rodrique Wright DT Texas- or Ko Simpson if either slip. Wright is a quality tackle.

3rd- best OL available

5th- Bethea S- athletic safety from small school

6th- Gradkowski QB Toledo- athletic system QB with a good arm. Worth a shot

7th- Lay CB Pitt- good late round pick

that's right almost all d. Kyle Williams DT LSU or Orien Harris would also be nice mid-round guys if the D-line isn't addressed early.

Spicy McHaggis
03-25-2006, 02:46 AM
6th- Gradkowski QB Toledo- athletic system QB with a good arm. Worth a shot

I'm intrigued by Gradkowski too.

Sfeihc
03-25-2006, 07:29 AM
I'm intrigued by Gradkowski too.


The kid's a gamer. I've seen him play a bunch in college(Toledo). Scouts don't like his size and arm strength. Some is going to do themselves very well by drafting Gradkowski.

BigChiefFan
03-25-2006, 09:44 AM
Pretty good mock. I had Drew Olsen in the 5th in my early mock, too. The UCLA tie just makes too much sense.

HolmeZz
03-25-2006, 11:43 AM
Gradkowski's got CFL written all over him. I don't think Olson's any good.

I'd like Josh Lay late in the draft. I haven't gotten to watch Darrell Adams play since he went to Nova, but I did meet him at Walter Camp Weekend. :-[

Mr. Laz
03-25-2006, 02:16 PM
doesn't wroten have legal and mental issues all over the place?

BigChiefFan
03-25-2006, 03:33 PM
Gradkowski's got CFL written all over him. I don't think Olson's any good.

I'd like Josh Lay late in the draft. I haven't gotten to watch Darrell Adams play since he went to Nova, but I did meet him at Walter Camp Weekend. :-[
Drew Olson not any good? LMAO...

2005 Heisman Trophy Candidate
2005 Unitas Award Finalist
2005 Davey O'Brien Award Semifinalist
NCAA Leader in Passing TDs/Game
NCAA Leader in Passing Efficiency
NCAA Leader in Int Percentage







2005 Fast Facts


QB Drew Olson and TB Maurice Drew are on the list of 10 "Players to Watch" for the Walter Camp Award.
Olson is one of seven finalists for the Unitas Award as the nation's top senior quarterback; one of 15 semifinalists for the Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award
Drew Olson has shattered the school record for touchdown passes. He has 30 this season, breaking the mark of 25 set by Cade McNown in 1998.
He leads the nation in touchdown passes (30), passing efficiency (172.47) and interception percentage (0.93).
Olson's 30 touchdown passes this season tie him for seventh on the Pac-10 Conference season list. His 63 career touchdown passes rank 10th on the all-time Pac-10 list.
Against Oregon State, he set a school record with six touchdown passes, breaking the record of five he had tied the previous week at Washington State. He also threw five touchdown passes against Arizona State, becoming the first Bruin to throw at least five in a game three times. Cade McNown threw five touchdown passes at Texas in 1997 and at Miami in 1998.
His 31 completions against Washington State rank No. 2 in school history, trailing only Troy Aikman's 32 versus USC in 1988.
Olson's last 18 games, he has completed 358 of 558 (.642) passes for 4,734 yards, 46 TDs and 11 interceptions.
Olson has led four fourth-quarter comebacks this season (Washington, 10 points; Cal, 12 points; Washington State,17 points; Stanford, 21 points). In those four games, he completed 45 of 61 passes (.738) for 539 yards and six touchdowns in the fourth quarter/overtime. In the fourth quarter/overtime of all games this season, Olson is 62 of 88 (.721) for 820 yards, 10 touchdowns and no interceptions.In the second half of all games this season, Olson is 113 of 157 (.720) for 1,393 yards, 15 touchdowns and no interceptions.

DREW OLSON CAREER HIGHLIGHTS

The Bruin quarterback has played himself into Heisman Trophy consideration with his fabulous senior season. He is also on the list of 10 "Players to Watch" for the Walter Camp Foundation Player of the Year award. In addition, he has been named one of seven finalists for the Unitas Award (nation's top senior quarterback) and one of 15 semifinalists for the Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award and has led the Bruins to a 9-1 record, including four fourth-quarter double-digit comebacks.

On the year, he has completed 218 of 322 passes (67.7) for 2,909 yards and 30 touchdowns with three interceptions. His passing efficiency rating of 172.47 ranks first nationally, as do his 30 touchdown passes and his interception percentage of 0.93. He also ranks third in the Pac-10 in passing yards (290.90) and third in the league and 20th in the nation in total offense (284.80). His 30 touchdown passes also rank seventh (tied) on the Pac-10 single-season list.

Olson's 30 touchdown passes have shattered the old school record of 25, set by Cade McNown in 1998 (12 games). In his last six games, Olson has thrown 22 touchdowns and just one interception. His 218 completions rank No. 2 in school history, trailing only Troy Aikman's 228 in 1998. His 2,909 yards rank No. 4 on that UCLA list, trailing only Cade McNown's 3,470 yards in 1998, McNown's 3,116 yards in 1997 and Tom Ramsey's 2,986 yards in 1982.

He has 11 completions of at least 40 yards this season and 45 of at least 20 yards. His 510 passing yards against Arizona State rank No. 2 in school history behind only McNown's 513 at Miami in 1998. He has thrown at least five touchdown passes three times this season (McNown did it twice in his career), including a school-record six against Oregon State and five each versus Arizona State and Washington State.

In his 43-game career (36 starts (23-13) / last 25 straight), Olson has 640 completions which rank No. 2 in UCLA history. In addition, his 8,283 career passing yards rank No. 2 and his career total offense of 8,022 yards also ranks No. 2. His 63 touchdown passes rank No. 2 on the UCLA career list.

His 63 touchdown passes rank 10th on the Pac-10 career list while his 8,243 passing yards rank 16th.

In his last 18 games, he has completed 358 of 558 (.642) passes for 4,734 yards, 46 TDs and 11 interceptions.

In the four fourth-quarter come-from-behind victories, he completed 45 of 61 passes (.738) for 539 yards, six touchdowns and no interceptions in the fourth quarter and overtime. In the fourth quarter/overtime of all games this season, Olson is 62 of 86 (.721) for 820 yards, 10 touchdowns and no interceptions. In the second half of all games this season, Olson is 113 of 157 (.720) for 1,393 yards, 15 touchdowns and no interceptions.

Against Arizona State, he was virtually unstoppable. On the evening, he completed 22 of 27 passes for 510 yards with five touchdowns and no interceptions. In the first quarter, he completed eight of 10 passes for 295 yards and three touchdowns (91 yards to Joe Cowan on the first play of the game, 56 yards to Chris Markey and six yards to Marcedes Lewis).

In the second half, he completed all 12 of his attempts for 195 yards and two touchdowns (seven yards to Brandon Breazell and 13 yards to Lewis). The 91-yard touchdown to Cowan was the fourth-longest pass play in school history. He became only the second Bruin to break the 500-yard plateau late in the game on Marcedes Lewis' diving 17-yard reception. He engineered five touchdown drives of at least 79 yards.

The 510 yards rank No. 2 on UCLA's single-game list (Cade McNown set the school record with 513 yards at Miami) as do his 501 yards of total offense (McNown's 515 yards at Miami is the record). The five touchdown passes were one shy of his school record and the third time this year he has thrown at least five TD passes.

He was selected the Division IA National Offensive Player of the Week by the Walter Camp Football Foundation.

At Arizona, he completed 23 of 38 passes for 232 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions. On UCLA's final scoring drive (91 yards), he completed five of six passes (last five) for 70 yards, including his second touchdown pass to Marcedes Lewis (16 yards).

In the Oct. 29 21-point comeback at Stanford, he completed 24 of 35 passes for 293 yards with two touchdowns and no interceptions. In the fourth quarter and overtime, he completed 15 of 20 passes for 206 yards and two touchdowns, a 31-yard strike to Joe Cowan in the fourth quarter and the game-winning 23-yard connection with Brandon Breazell in overtime.

In the fourth quarter, he led UCLA on touchdown drives of 65, 72 and 66 yards after Stanford took a 24-3 lead with 8:26 remaining. The three scoring drives took just 3:40. In overtime, he hit Breazell for the winning score after a two-yard run by Maurice Drew.

He was at his best in the Oct. 22 victory over Oregon State. That afternoon, he set a school record by throwing six touchdown passes -- two each to Maurice Drew and Marcedes Lewis and one each to Ryan Moya and Brandon Breazell. On the day, he completed 16 of 24 passes for 262 yards, six touchdowns and no interceptions while leading the Bruins to a 51-28 win. He moved into second place on UCLA's career touchdown passes list and was named Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Week for his efforts.

He also set a school record with 11 touchdown passes in two consecutive games, breaking the previous record of eight. He had 13 in a three-game span, breaking the record of 11 by Wayne Cook in 1993.

In the 2005 opener at San Diego State, he connected on 10 of 15 passes for 152 yards with a long of 40. In the first half, he completed six of nine passes for 103 yards. Against Rice, he completed 18 of 25 passes (.720) for 296 yards and three touchdowns (39, 10, 11) with no interceptions. He threw five completions of at least 20 yards and had 302 yards of total offense. He completed passes to eight different receivers. In the first half, he led the Bruins to touchdowns on all six of their offensive possessions, completing 15 of 20 passes for 263 yards and three scores.

In the victory over Oklahoma, Olson completed 28 of 38 passes for 314 yards and three touchdowns with no interceptions. He completed passes to 10 different receivers and both times Oklahoma scored in the second half, he responded by leading a touchdown drive. When Oklahoma closed to within 20-17 with 3:25 left in the third quarter, he responded by leading a 13-play, 83-yard drive, completing six of seven passes for 78 yards, including a 19-yard scoring strike to Marcedes Lewis. On UCLA's next possession, he drove the Bruins 45 yards for another touchdown, completing three of four passes for 42 yards, including a seven-yard score to Chris Markey. Olson was named Sporting News National Player of the Week and Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Week for his efforts against the Sooners.

Against Washington, he completed 29 of 44 passes for 287 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions. The 44 attempts tied his career high. In the second-half comeback (down 10-0 at half), Olson connected on 20 of 26 passes for 210 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions. In the fourth quarter, he completed 11 of 15 passes for 99 yards and one score, including his last six attempts for 72 yards on the winning drive.

In the third quarter, with UCLA starting on the UW 28-yard line following a fumble recovery, he hit Joe Cowan for 24 yards and after a run for no yards, he found Marcedes Lewis in the end zone for a four-yard touchdown.

After Washington made the score 17-7, he moved the Bruins 80 yards, hitting Michael Pitre for a one-yard score on the first play of the fourth quarter. With 3:39 remaining in the game, he drove the Bruins 73 yards for the winning score, converting a key fourth-and-one from the Bruin 36-yard line. He completed six of seven passes (the final six) for 72 yards on the drive, which was capped by Maurice Drew's one-yard run with 1:08 remaining in the game.

Against California, Olson rallied the Bruins to victory for the second straight week. He brought them back from a 14-0 deficit less than three minutes into the game, pulling them into a 14-14 tie just 10 seconds into the second quarter. Trailing 40-28 with 12:55 remaining, he drove the Bruins 80 yards to make the score 40-35, scoring on a one-yard sneak. With 2:30 remaining, UCLA took possession on its own 25-yard line and Olson drove them 75 yards, completing passes of 38 and nine yards to Marcus Everett. On third-and-one at the 28-yard line, he found Maurice Drew in the right flat and he sped 28 yards for the winning score. UCLA regained possession with 1:01 remaining and Olson helped run the clock until Drew scored on the final play of the game.

On the night, Olson completed 17 of 33 passes for 225 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions and twice rallied his team from double-digit deficits for the win. He also moved into second place on the career total offense list.

At Washington State, he rallied the Bruins from deficits of 21 points in the first half and 17 points in the fourth quarter, tying school records in both categories. On the night, he completed 31 of 43 passes for a then career-high 338 yards, five touchdowns and one interception. His five touchdown passes tied the old school record held by Cade McNown (1997 at Texas, 1998 at Miami) and his 31 completions were one shy of Troy Aikman's school record of 32 (USC, 1998).

In the final three quarters, he hit on 28 of 34 passes (.824) for 310 yards, five touchdowns and no interceptions. In the fourth quarter, he connected on 13 of 16 passes for 132 yards and two scores. UCLA trailed 28-7 near the end of the first half, but Olson drove the Bruins 80 yards, hitting Marcedes Lewis for four yards with 26 seconds remaining to cut the deficit to 14 points.

Midway through the third quarter, his 45-yard touchdown pass to Maurice Drew completed a 73-yard drive and brought the Bruins to within seven points. However, UCLA still trailed by 17 entering the final quarter.

With 14:32 remaining in the game, Olson and Lewis hooked up for a nine-yard score to complete an 80-yard drive. UCLA trailed by seven points with 4:52 remaining when it took over on its four-yard line. He drove the Bruins 96 yards for the tying score, finding Marcus Everett in the back corner of the end zone with 44 seconds remaining in regulation. On the final drive, he was six of seven for 78 yards.

During the 2004 season, Olson ranked sixth in the Pac-10 (44th-NCAA) in total offense (222.58 yds.), sixth in the Pac-10 in passing (213.8 yds.), and fourth in the Pac-10 (43rd-NCAA) in passing efficiency (132.39 rating). In the Pac-10, his average of 13.09 yards per completion was first among players with at least 100 completions and his 57.48% was fourth.

Olson's 2004 season ended in the second quarter of the Las Vegas (Dec. 23) Bowl, when he suffered a torn ligament in his left knee which required surgery.

In his last seven regular-season games of 2004, he completed 134 of 226 passes (59.29%) for 1,729 yards, 15 touchdowns and eight interceptions.

Olson began the 2003 season as the No. 2 quarterback, but found himself thrust to the forefront for the second straight year because of injury. He replaced an injured Matt Moore in the first half of the opener at Colorado and went on to appear in 12 games (nine starts). Olson became the fourth sophomore to pass for more than 2,000 yards in a season (2,067).

He began 2002 behind four-year starter Cory Paus. Olson started the final five games of the year after Paus suffered a season-ending ankle injury against Cal. Olson was also injured in that game and sat out the next contest against Stanford, before returning to start the season's last five games.

Olson made his first career start at Washington and became the first Bruin true freshman since Tom Ramsey in 1979 to win his initial road start. He also became just the third UCLA true freshman quarterback to start the game against USC, joining Ramsey and Cade McNown.


Varsity Statistics

Passing
Year PA PC YDS PCT INT TD LG
2002 104 53 702 .510 4 3 42
2003 325 173 2,067 .532 9 10 54
2004 341 196 2,565 .575 13 20 83
2005 322 218 2,909 .677 3 30 91
Totals 1092 640 8,243 .586 29 63 91


2005 Olson Passing (* indicates game started)
Game PA PC INT YDS TD LG
@San Diego St.* 15 10 0 152 0 40
Rice* 25 18 0 296 3 48
Oklahoma* 38 28 0 314 3 24
Washington* 44 29 2 287 2 39
California* 33 17 0 225 2 38
Washington State* 43 31 1 338 5 45
Oregon State* 24 16 0 262 6 48
@Stanford* 35 24 0 293 2 31
@Arizona* 38 23 0 232 2 23
Arizona State* 27 22 0 510 5 91
Totals 322 218 3 2,909 30 91


2004 Olson Passing (* indicates game started)
Game PA PC INT YDS TD LG
Okla. State* 36 16 2 252 0 57
@Illinois* 21 14 1 208 3 41
@Washington* 17 12 1 122 0 21
San Diego St.* 29 14 1 158 1 33
Arizona* 25 17 0 234 4 31
@California* 36 20 0 299 4 46
@Arizona State* 44 30 4 325 2 38
Stanford* 28 17 1 177 1 40
Wash. State* 38 18 1 201 2 47
@Oregon* 21 12 0 215 1 83
USC* 34 20 2 278 1 39
Wyoming*(Las Vegas) 12 6 0 96 1 29
Totals 341 196 13 2,565 20 83


2003 Olson Passing
Game PA PC INT YDS TD LG
@Colorado 23 13 0 164 2 42
Illinois* 31 11 1 94 0 16
@Oklahoma* 34 18 2 144 0 21
San Diego St.* 28 18 0 258 2 54
Washington* 24 16 1 258 0 41
@Arizona* 22 15 1 189 0 43
Cal* 20 9 0 173 2 40
Arizona State DNP
@Stanford 12 5 0 94 0 45
@Wash. State 12 7 1 82 0 22
Oregon* 49 29 1 249 1 22
@USC* 39 21 1 266 2 44
Fresno St.*(Silicon Valley) 31 11 1 96 1 27
Totals 325 173 9 2,067 10 54


2002 Olson Passing
Game PA PC INT YDS TD LG
Colorado St. 3 2 0 24 0 15
@Okla. State 2 0 0 0 0 0
Colorado DNP
@San Diego St. 3 2 0 22 0 16
@Oregon State DNP
Oregon DNP
@Cal 7 5 0 58 0 24
Stanford DNP
@Washington* 27 13 0 189 0 42
@Arizona* 12 7 0 111 1 37
USC* 17 8 1 121 0 35
Wash. State* 27 13 2 163 2 39
New Mex.*(Las Vegas) 6 3 1 14 0 17
Totals 104 53 4 702 3 42


'05 Olson 4th Qtr./OT
PA PC INT YDS TD LG
SDSU 2 1 0 2 0 2
Rice -
Oklahoma 7 6 0 79 2 24
Washington 15 11 0 99 1 39
California 10 6 0 102 1 38
@Wash. State 16 13 0 132 2 26
Oregon State 3 1 0 46 1 46
@Stanford 20 15 0 206 2 31
@Arizona 9 5 0 70 1 18
Arizona State 4 4 0 84 0 43
Totals 86 62 0 820 10 46


UCLA Career Passing (ranked by completions)
Years PA PC TD YDS PCT.
1. Cade NcNown '95-98 1,250 694 68 10,708 .555
2. Drew Olson '02- 1,092 640 63 8,243 .586
3.Tom Ramsey '79-82 751 441 50 6,168 .587
4. Cory Paus '99-02 816 439 42 6,877 .538
5. Troy Aikman '97-98 627 406 41 5,298 .648
UCLA Career Passing (ranked by yardage)
Years PA PC TD YDS PCT.
1. Cade NcNown '95-98 1,250 694 68 10,708 .555
2. Drew Olson '02- 1,092 640 63 8,243 .586
3. Cory Paus '99-02 816 439 42 6,877 .538
4. Tom Ramsey '79-82 751 441 50 6,168 .587


UCLA Career Total Offense Leaders
Years Rush Pass YDS
1. Cade NcNown '95-98 577 10,708 11,285
2. Drew Olson '02- -221 8,243 8,022
3. Cory Paus '99-02 -427 6,877 6,450
4. Tom Ramsey '79-82 87 6,168 6,255
5. Tommy Maddox '90-91 837 5,363 5,482
6. Gary Beban '65-67 1,271 4,087 5,358
7. Troy Aikman '87-88 -4 5,298 5,294


UCLA Career Touchdown Passes
Years TD
1. Cade NcNown '95-98 68
2. Drew Olson '02- 63


UCLA Season Touchdown Passes
Years TD
1. Drew Olson '05 30
2. Cade NcNown '98 25
3. Cade NcNown '97 24
3. Troy Aikman '88 24


UCLA Single Season Total Offense (1937-present)
Player Year Rush Pass YDS Cl.
1. Cade McNown 1998 182 3,470 3,652 Sr.
2. Cade McNown 1997 26 3,116 3,142 Jr.
3. Tom Ramsey 1982 138 2,986 3,124 Sr.
4. Troy Aikman 1988 83 2,771 2,854 Sr.
5. Drew Olson 2005 -61 2,909 2,848 Sr.
6. Tommy Maddox 1990 148 2,682 2,830 Fr.R
7. Tommy Maddox 1991 -29 2,681 2,652 So.
8. Drew Olson 2004 115 2,469 2,584 Jr.
9. Cade McNown 1996 58 2,424 2,482 So.
10. Troy Aikman 1987 -87 2,527 2,440 Jr.


UCLA Single-Season Passing (ranked by completions)
Years PA PC TD YDS PCT.
1. Troy Aikman 1988 354 228 24 2,771 .644
2. Drew Olson 2005 322 218 30 2,909 .677
3. Tom Ramsey 1982 336 209 21 2,986 .622
3. Tommy Maddox 1991 343 209 16 2,681 .609
5. Cade McNown 1998 357 207 25 3,470 .580


UCLA Single-Season Passing (ranked by yardage)
Years PA PC TD YDS PCT.
1. Cade McNown 1998 357 207 25 3,470 .580
2. Cade McNown 1997 312 189 24 3,116 .606
3. Tom Ramsey 1982 336 209 21 2,986 .622
4. Drew Olson 2005 322 218 30 2,909 .677
5. Troy Aikman 1988 354 228 24 2,771 .644

htismaqe
03-25-2006, 03:49 PM
doesn't wroten have legal and mental issues all over the place?

He got busted for pot, IIRC.

Mr. Laz
03-25-2006, 04:01 PM
He got busted for pot, IIRC.

i thought i remembered something about missing time because he was seeking "medical help" or something ... ward 7 type help.

HolmeZz
03-25-2006, 11:12 PM
Drew Olson not any good? LMAO..

All that's pretty sweet. Now tell me what that has to do with him as a QB prospect for the NFL.

Halfcan
03-25-2006, 11:25 PM
I say draft Drew-we need a QB of the future.

HolmeZz
03-25-2006, 11:46 PM
I say draft Drew-we need a QB of the future.

He wouldn't be the answer, unless you want no hope for the future. :p

BigChiefFan
03-26-2006, 08:32 AM
All that's pretty sweet. Now tell me what that has to do with him as a QB prospect for the NFL.
I would say ACCURACY has ALOT to do with becoming a quality QB in the NFL. Olson really turned into a quality QB last year, I don't know why you would even dispute that.
Also, there's the UCLA connection, the fact that it's only a 5th rounder, and we desperately need a QBOTF to start grooming for Green's eventual replacement.

HolmeZz
03-26-2006, 11:36 AM
I would say ACCURACY has ALOT to do with becoming a quality QB in the NFL. Olson really turned into a quality QB last year, I don't know why you would even dispute that.
Also, there's the UCLA connection, the fact that it's only a 5th rounder, and we desperately need a QBOTF to start grooming for Green's eventual replacement.

You don't translate statistics to the pros. You translate abilities.

Using just your example, look at the lists you posted. Who was on top of most of them? Cade McNown.

I don't think Olson is any good as a prospect. There's a reason he's a 5th or 6th rounder. If every team could just find QBsOTF in those rounds without much problem, no QBs would be getting drafted on the first day.

Spicy McHaggis
03-26-2006, 10:09 PM
You don't translate statistics to the pros. You translate abilities.

Right. So basically the issue is that you don't think he has the ability to succeed in the NFL. I along with a few other people disagree. He's got an arm, is accurate and has shown he can step up and be a leader. He's worth a 5th rounder imo because of that, especially since we don't exactly have solid backup for Trent at this point nor have we drafted a potential QBoTF in a decade.