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Amnorix
04-17-2006, 07:26 AM
I am a big supporter of Israel, generally speaking. I really, REALLY wish they would let this obsession with their f**king spy, that WE caught, go. It only reminds us, over and over, that they were spying on their best friends and most important and reliable supporters.

Frankly, I'd be in favor of executing Pollard just to tell Israel quite firmly that "no, we're not going to release the f**king traitor". It's beyond maddening.

This story was lifted off my internet provider, so I'm not providing a link. I'd imagine it's out there on AP or whatever too...


(actually, I'll post the text of the story in my next post)

Amnorix
04-17-2006, 07:26 AM
Israel Reportedly Proposes Swap for Spy
Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:13 PM EDT
The Associated Press
By LAURIE COPANS

JERUSALEM (AP) Israel has proposed freeing a leader of the Palestinian uprising if the United States releases Jonathan Pollard, the former Pentagon analyst convicted of spying for the Jewish state, Army Radio reported Sunday. The report said Israel would free Marwan Barghouti, who is serving five life sentences for masterminding deadly attacks, in return for Pollard.

Pollard is serving a life sentence in a federal prison for selling military secrets to Israel in the 1980s.The report said the deal has been proposed by officials in Israel's Foreign Ministry. The ministry declined comment, and U.S. Embassy spokesman Stewart Tuttle called the report "ridiculous speculation." "As far as I know, it has no basis in reality," Tuttle said.

Army Radio quoted Israeli security officials as saying that the release of Barghouti, a leading figure in Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah Party, could help Fatah wrest power back from the Islamic militant group Hamas and restore stability on the Palestinian street. Hamas defeated Fatah in January legislative elections, and its new government took office last month. The United States, Europe and Israel have cut ties with the Palestinian government and stopped transferring money to it.

Pollard was working as a civilian naval analyst for the Pentagon when he was arrested in 1985, and pleaded guilty. His case remains a sticking point in U.S.-Israel relations, and Israel has repeatedly lobbied American presidents for his pardon. Since Pollard's sentencing, Israel has granted him citizenship. Last month's election of Pollard's former handler, Rafi Eitan, to the Israeli parliament has drawn new attention to his plight. Eitan has said he would like to see Pollard go free, while defending the original espionage operation.

Last month, the U.S. Supreme Court which declined to give Pollard access to records that could bolster his case for presidential clemency. In January, Israel's Supreme Court refused to grant Pollard the title of Prisoner of Zion, which would required the government to do all it can to get him released. The status was originally created for Jewish activists imprisoned in the Soviet Union in the 1970s and '80s.

unlurking
04-17-2006, 07:37 AM
Ugh.

I don't see how this would benefit the US in anyway. Just because we release Barghouti, doesn't mean that Hamas will just go away. While it might help sow unrest in Palestine (which would be more to the benefit of Israel), it does nothing for the US, and would likely increase Hamas' hatred of the US, when we need to be pressuring them to become a responsible government, and continue the peace talks.

Pitt Gorilla
04-17-2006, 09:28 AM
I'd like to see an argument for us releasing this piece of trash. I'm not convinced that one exists.

trndobrd
04-17-2006, 09:34 AM
We release a spy to Isreal and Isreal releases a palestinian terrorist? Why do the Isrealis think the State Department hired Carl Peterson as a consultant?

patteeu
04-17-2006, 11:18 AM
*headscratch*

DanT
04-17-2006, 06:46 PM
Here's the Wikipedia.org entry on Jonathan Pollard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard

Ugly Duck
04-18-2006, 12:56 AM
This is justa buncha PR for internal consumption in Israel. To convince folks that they never give up supporting their spies (which is actually probably the case). Any serious deal would be negotiated very secretly, not in the newspapers. We'd hear about the finished deal, not the competing proposals.