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BIG_DADDY
04-20-2006, 05:33 PM
I really like the Lakers at +300 against the Suns. I might also consider betting the Lakers and the Queens at +2500 each to win the West. Lakers have gone 11/14 at the end of the season and the Queens have went 9/11. I don't know, feedback?

Pistons Spurs Suns Wizards
(# 501) Wizards vs Cavaliers (Game #1)(ABC) 04/22 at 03:00 pm
Wizards +5 10/11
Cavaliers -5 10/11
Over 194 10/11
Under 194 10/11
Wizards +1902.919/10
Cavaliers -2301.4310/23


(# 503) Kings vs Spurs (Game #1)(ESPN) 04/22 at 05:30 pm
Kings +8.5 10/11
Spurs -8.5 10/11
Over 181.5 10/11
Under 181.5 10/11
Kings +3254.2513/4
Spurs -4251.244/17


(# 505) Bulls vs Heat (Game #1)(ESPN) 04/22 at 08:00 pm
Bulls +8 10/11
Heat -8 10/11
Over 194 10/11
Under 194 10/11
Bulls +2853.8557/20
Heat -3751.274/15


(# 507) Nuggets vs Clippers (Game #1)(ESPN) 04/22 at 10:30 pm
Nuggets +5 10/11
Clippers -5 10/11
Over 196.5 10/11
Under 196.5 10/11
Nuggets +1902.919/10
Clippers -2301.4310/23


(# 509) Pacers vs Nets (Game #1)(TNT) 04/23 at 01:00 pm
Pacers +7 10/11
Nets -7 10/11
Over 174.5 10/11
Under 174.5 10/11
Pacers +2553.5551/20
Nets -3251.314/13


(# 511) Lakers vs Suns (Game #1)(ABC) 04/23 at 03:30 pm
Lakers +7 10/11
Suns -7 10/11
Over 216 10/11
Under 216 10/11
Lakers +2503.55/2
Suns -3101.3210/31


(# 513) Bucks vs Pistons (Game #1)(TNT) 04/23 at 07:00 pm
Bucks +11.5 10/11
Pistons -11.5 10/11
Over 184 10/11
Under 184 10/11
Bucks +6507.513/2
Pistons -10001.11/10


(# 515) Grizzlies vs Mavericks (Game #1)(TNT) 04/23 at 09:30 pm
Grizzlies +7 10/11
Mavericks -7 10/11
Over 174.5 10/11
Under 174.5 10/11
Grizzlies +2553.5551/20
Mavericks -3251.314/13

Jmart
04-20-2006, 05:43 PM
Who would have thought the Clippers would be favored in a playoff series? I am a big Clips fan and I am going to game one. I would probably put my $$ on the Nugs in this series, as LA is limping into the postseason.

BIG_DADDY
04-20-2006, 05:46 PM
Who would have thought the Clippers would be favored in a playoff series? I am a big Clips fan and I am going to game one. I would probably put my $$ on the Nugs in this series, as LA is limping into the postseason.

I don't like any of the other series props except for the Lakers. Always fun going to Staples. You guys have the next UFC matches there. Probably be the biggest MMA event in the countries history. Currently the biggest one was the matches held in the Sharktank.

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 10:31 AM
Bump, just in case there is someone here on the morning shift that may be following the NBA.

ARROW2
04-21-2006, 10:40 AM
I guarantee you I am the biggest Laker fan on this board, hands down. Like Kobe should be MVP, HANDS DOWN!!!!!!

Sully
04-21-2006, 10:43 AM
I don't think he'd be that good if he kept his hands down.

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 10:52 AM
I don't think he'd be that good if he kept his hands down.
ROFL

Psyko Tek
04-21-2006, 12:05 PM
I guarantee you I am the biggest Laker fan on this board, hands down. Like Kobe should be MVP, HANDS DOWN!!!!!!


like Kobe should learn to play with others if he wants to be MVP

STEVE NASH RULES

GO SUNS!!!

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 12:21 PM
like Kobe should learn to play with others if he wants to be MVP

STEVE NASH RULES

GO SUNS!!!


Funny, everyone on the team is having career seasons. Sounds like you're just a Kobe hater. He won't get MVP just based on the fact that some writers don't like him. Call it the Barry Bonds effect. Nash is good and should receive consideration. Dirk doesn't play D so he shouldn't get any consideration IMO. Billups was on the other day pimping himself for the MVP. When asked who should be 2nd he said Kobe or Lebron. It will probably come down to Lebron or Nash. Both are deserving but it seems to me the MVP has become a popularity contest with an east coast bias. They were making a joke about it the other day saying that when Wilt averaged 50 points and 26 rebounds a game for an entire season he didn't even get MVP.

I see value in a +300 payout going with the Lakers for the series. Apparently not many people think they have a chance against the Suns. Jackson has never lost in the first round of the playoffs. I am counting on coaching to get us through.

Psyko Tek
04-21-2006, 01:06 PM
the reason they are all having career seasons is they never had careeres before
everybody doubles Kobe and freees tham up

as far as Jackson goes how many playoff series has he won with out Jordan or Shaq


I'don't know, that's an honest question

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 01:10 PM
the reason they are all having career seasons is they never had careeres before
everybody doubles Kobe and freees tham up

as far as Jackson goes how many playoff series has he won with out Jordan or Shaq


I'don't know, that's an honest question

Come on, you can't be serious. How many championships do Jordon and Shaq have without Phil? Phil is the best coach in NBA history and when he eventually takes this team to their next champioship health permitting nobody will question that again.

Are you really being serious or are you just another Laker hater?

Psyko Tek
04-21-2006, 01:26 PM
Jordan in his prime, only played for Phil, right?


Shaq and Kobe were a lethal combo when their panties weren't inna bunch

I see jackson as cheery picking jobs where the guys where already there to win

but with his return to LA I think he wants to prove something

and yeah I do think Kobe is a whiny deuche, but he may mature out of it

vailpass
04-21-2006, 01:27 PM
Come on, you can't be serious. How many championships do Jordon and Shaq have without Phil? Phil is the best coach in NBA history and when he eventually takes this team to their next champioship health permitting nobody will question that again.

Are you really being serious or are you just another Laker hater?

Better than Auerbach? Riley?

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 01:32 PM
Better than Auerbach? Riley?

I like Riley BIG TIME but yes I think Phil is better. Auerbach will always be who he is compared to. If he takes this team to another championship I think people will see him as having been the best.

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 01:35 PM
Jordan in his prime, only played for Phil, right?


Shaq and Kobe were a lethal combo when their panties weren't inna bunch

I see jackson as cheery picking jobs where the guys where already there to win

but with his return to LA I think he wants to prove something

and yeah I do think Kobe is a whiny deuche, but he may mature out of it

Show me just one of the top all time winningest coaches in any sport who did it with bad players. Come on dude. Lakers under Phil have done it under the cap. OTher teams spent a lot more money.

Lakers will free up a ton of cap room over the next two years. That combined with the possibility of this Bynum kid potentially being something really special in this league is promising.

Jmart
04-21-2006, 01:45 PM
Sad that E. Brand is not even being seriously considered. Most underrated player in the NBA, IMO

Psyko Tek
04-21-2006, 01:54 PM
Show me just one of the top all time winningest coaches in any sport who did it with bad players.


I just think anybody could have coached Jordan, pipen ands co to championships

and when Kobe and Shaq got in to their catfight, that's when they needed a coach, and he didn't coach

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 02:15 PM
Sad that E. Brand is not even being seriously considered. Most underrated player in the NBA, IMO

Great player. He gets consideration from the Clipper announcers. ROFL

Jmart
04-21-2006, 02:19 PM
A Lakers/Clippers meeting in the second round would be the bomb-diggity. We OWN them recently.

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 02:19 PM
I just think anybody could have coached Jordan, pipen ands co to championships

and when Kobe and Shaq got in to their catfight, that's when they needed a coach, and he didn't coach

Kobe and Shaq just like Michael and Scottie have zero championships when playing without Phil, that's just a fact.

To say anybody could have coached those championships is way out there if you ask me.

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 02:20 PM
A Lakers/Clippers meeting in the second round would be the bomb-diggity. We OWN them recently.

I would love to see that!!! :thumb:

Jmart
04-21-2006, 02:24 PM
I would love to see that!!! :thumb:
I think that would be something special for the NBA and something that could spark a lot of interest after things have been going so bad for the last couple of years.

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 02:27 PM
I think that would be something special for the NBA and something that could spark a lot of interest after things have been going so bad for the last couple of years.

Looking into my crystal ball I see a whole lot of Clippers fans cashing in on those playoff tickets. It would be like 7 home games for the Lakers. ROFL ROFL ROFL

Jmart
04-21-2006, 02:40 PM
Not if Penny Marshall, Billy Crystal or Frankie Muniz have anything to say about it!

BIG_DADDY
04-21-2006, 02:56 PM
Not if Penny Marshall, Billy Crystal or Frankie Muniz have anything to say about it!


Penny is at all of the LA games. BIG Laker fan too. We shall see if it happens. I'll bet there will be a lot more Lakers fans at Clippers games than Clippers fans at Lakers games though.

vailpass
04-21-2006, 04:09 PM
I like Riley BIG TIME but yes I think Phil is better. Auerbach will always be who he is compared to. If he takes this team to another championship I think people will see him as having been the best.

I've been a huge Phil fan since he became a head coach, his approach is unique among coaches. He recognized that X and O coaching is not all it takes in the modern NBA, you also have to get into the heads of the noveau-riche ghetto baller who doesn't need to be yelled at by a white man making less than he does or the tightly-wrapped layer who responds better to talk than scream. He figures out what strings to pull with each player and mind-****s them into playing as a team.

IMO Riley recognized the mega-talents his players had and created a new brand of basketball the likes of which hasn't been seen before or since.

Regardless of the era Auerbach did what no one else has and IMO deserves to be the standard.

Hard to say who is the greatest coach of all time just like it is to say who is the greates player of all time (MJ? Wilt? etc.).

BIG_DADDY
04-24-2006, 11:12 AM
Well that was a good game but losing sucked. Hopefully they can pull ou the next game and send it back to LA even.

The Spurs friggen spanked them Queens. ROFL

Artest guaranteed a victory in the series. What a moron.

BIG_DADDY
04-27-2006, 10:56 AM
Well that's what I was looking for taking one game in Phoenix. I still think the pressure is on the Lakers to win the next one. If they can win the next two on their home court it's over though. I have a feeling this series is going to be a dog fight. I would love to see an all LA series next.

Blitz
04-27-2006, 11:27 AM
I expect the Lakers to take the Suns to 7 games but fall just short. Kwame Brown won't continue to play like he has played these past 2 games. Marion HAS to step up his game, they can't afford for him to brick majority of his shots and not grab any offensive rebounds. Remember he was top 5 in Rebounding this year.

I would love to see a Clippers/Lakers game next round, as it would be the first time they would face each other in the NBA playoffs.

BIG_DADDY
04-27-2006, 11:52 AM
I expect the Lakers to take the Suns to 7 games but fall just short. Kwame Brown won't continue to play like he has played these past 2 games. Marion HAS to step up his game, they can't afford for him to brick majority of his shots and not grab any offensive rebounds. Remember he was top 5 in Rebounding this year.

I would love to see a Clippers/Lakers game next round, as it would be the first time they would face each other in the NBA playoffs.

I hope the Lakers pull it out. If they do I will get a sweet payout at +300. The odds are now at +145 for the Lakers to win the series. It was funny to see everyone bashing Kobe for being a ball hog and now the exact opposite is true. I will also laugh my ass of if Nash gets MVP and the Lakers who never supposed to be close tot he playoffs end up beating the Suns who are supposed to be here. The key is for the Lakers to stay physical and play D first. I think they have a pretty decent shot at this point.

Blitz
04-28-2006, 02:42 PM
Though I'm a Big Steve Nash Fan, I still firmly believe Kobe is the MVP. He has shown total dominance not seen since MJ in the late 80's-early 90's. I believe the key is for Kobe to play that controlled style of game, keep it close till the fourth quarter and then unleash the REAL Kobe on the Suns. The kobe that averaged near 40 pts all year long. There is no way the suns will be able to contain him.

Also, they need Lamar Odom to hold Marion in check. Shawn Marion is a key part of their success so as long as they have him playing at like 30% of what he really is, the Lakers should have no problems. But then again, things dont always work out the way you want them to.

How about that Pacers/Nets series? I couldnt help but laugh when Anthony Johnson of all people called out Vince Carter for not being tough. Carter isn't tough at all, not saying he isn't a top flight superstar but tough he is not. So what happens, Carter proceeds to drop 21 pts in the first half last night, cruising to half-time with a comfortable lead. Johnson says "ok, now my turn" and proceeds to make Jason Kidd is B*tch and runs all over the Nets. Carter on the other hand, follows up with a 0/11 FG 2nd half. This series will also hit 7 games.

BIG_DADDY
04-28-2006, 02:54 PM
Though I'm a Big Steve Nash Fan, I still firmly believe Kobe is the MVP. He has shown total dominance not seen since MJ in the late 80's-early 90's. I believe the key is for Kobe to play that controlled style of game, keep it close till the fourth quarter and then unleash the REAL Kobe on the Suns. The kobe that averaged near 40 pts all year long. There is no way the suns will be able to contain him.

Also, they need Lamar Odom to hold Marion in check. Shawn Marion is a key part of their success so as long as they have him playing at like 30% of what he really is, the Lakers should have no problems. But then again, things dont always work out the way you want them to.

How about that Pacers/Nets series? I couldnt help but laugh when Anthony Johnson of all people called out Vince Carter for not being tough. Carter isn't tough at all, not saying he isn't a top flight superstar but tough he is not. So what happens, Carter proceeds to drop 21 pts in the first half last night, cruising to half-time with a comfortable lead. Johnson says "ok, now my turn" and proceeds to make Jason Kidd is B*tch and runs all over the Nets. Carter on the other hand, follows up with a 0/11 FG 2nd half. This series will also hit 7 games.

I haven't seen any of the Pacer/Nets games.

I agree with you on the Kobe/Nash thing. If the Lakers win the series when they were not even supposed to be close to the playoffs and the Suns lose being a 2nd seed and Nash gets MVP that should cause some interest.

Sully
04-28-2006, 11:35 PM
3-point game in the 3rd. (LA v Phx)
Looks like a good one.

chubychecker
04-28-2006, 11:46 PM
go lakers

BIG_DADDY
05-01-2006, 10:59 AM
I hope somebody listened to me on this. If you did you are looking like you could make a lot of $$$$$. Looks like the Lakers are about to payoff for me at +300. What an amazing weekend for sports. Sharks advance and Lakers pull out another miracle. I gotta tell you it's sure good being a Lakers fan.

BIG_DADDY
05-01-2006, 11:49 AM
WOW, the silence is deafening in here. Where is Goat Cheese to tell me what a POS ball hog Kobe is and how bad the Lakers are? :hmmm:

Coogs
05-01-2006, 01:01 PM
I hope somebody listened to me on this. If you did you are looking like you could make a lot of $$$$$. Looks like the Lakers are about to payoff for me at +300. What an amazing weekend for sports. Sharks advance and Lakers pull out another miracle. I gotta tell you it's sure good being a Lakers fan.

Don't jinx them!

BIG_DADDY
05-01-2006, 01:16 PM
Don't jinx them!

I fully expect the Suns to come back and and give the Lakers all they can handle. I got the LA feed for after the game and went through all the player interviews. Every one of them sounded like Phil Jackson. Great game very exciting but this thing is far from over blah, blah, blah. I liked when they were asking Walton if he knew it was going in when Kobe hit that last shot. His answer was "I have no idea I was concentrating on getting the rebound and then it just went in"

This series has been by far the most entertaining in the playoffs. Great close games with both teams playing their hearts out and leaving it all on the court.

|Zach|
05-01-2006, 01:19 PM
I wonder if Kobe signed a jersey for the ref after that game.

BIG_DADDY
05-01-2006, 01:26 PM
I wonder if Kobe signed a jersey for the ref after that game. ROFL

The strip was clean. They had to turn the microphones all the way up to try and hear the timeout a fraction of a second before Walton grabbed the ball. That game was friggen incredible. The Lakers continue to do miraculous things not even Nash made an excuse. This is a team playing with a hell of a lot of heart. That's the typical response I would expect from the Laker haters who have the same story. They only called 3 fouls on Kobe as soon as the game began. There is not officials excuse.

Thomas was amazing for the Suns shooting on that bad knee. He played one hell of a game. Great series.

|Zach|
05-01-2006, 01:33 PM
ROFL

The strip was clean. They had to turn the microphones all the way up to try and hear the timeout a fraction of a second before Walton grabbed the ball. That game was friggen incredible. The Lakers continue to do miraculous things not even Nash made an excuse. This is a team playing with a hell of a lot of heart. That's the typical response I would expect from the Laker haters who have the same story. They only called 3 fouls on Kobe as soon as the game began. There is not officials excuse.

Thomas was amazing for the Suns shooting on that bad knee. He played one hell of a game. Great series.
Guy got raped on that sideline...it was a total joke.

I am not a laker hater...I am not really much of an NBA fan. I kind of like the Mavs because I like Cuban but a few guys were watching the game in the place next to me and that "call" was literally laughable.

BIG_DADDY
05-01-2006, 01:50 PM
Guy got raped on that sideline...it was a total joke.

I am not a laker hater...I am not really much of an NBA fan. I kind of like the Mavs because I like Cuban but a few guys were watching the game in the place next to me and that "call" was literally laughable.

Funny, I saw 3 different groups of NBA analysts go over that and all members of all 3 groups said it was clean. They even showed it in slow motion, all ball. The Lakers had to do a lot of things not just one to get back in this game. The incredible 3 pointer from Smush with that hand in his face. The strip the save and the awesome shot by Kobe. Then there was the tie up by Walton, the tip, the drive and the shot. All the Suns had to do was protect the ball and hit free throws and they couldn't. Hell even Nash didn't say say there was a foul. With the officials taking Kobe out for much of the first half and this being a must win game for Phoenix there is no excuse for them losing this game. This is a Lakers team that is not even supposed to be close to the playoffs and a 2nd seed Suns team that is supposed to be dominating. You should have taked some of my advice in this value betting area you may have been able to clean house.

At this point I have got to say I am more than pleased with what Phil and the Kobe have put together with this team, this season. If it all ended now I would still be very happy. That being said I think everyone (exception maybe goat cheese) can now begin to see the potential this very young team is going to have with more playing time together and a bunch of salary freeing up over the next couple of years. This great Lakers franchise is going to be back up where they should be, at the top of the NBA.

BTW I think Cuban is a great owner too. They are now ranked at 2-1 to sin the West. I never thought I would see the day.