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Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 12:15 AM
The 2006 NFL Draft is here--finally. Next weekend, the Chiefs will launch the Herman Edwards era with, perhaps, the most important draft they have faced in several years. Every draft is important, but with an aging squad the Chief’s choices next weekend could be the difference between a long rebuilding process and a quick reloading and turn-around.


The Chiefs needs appear to be pretty clear: defensive line, defensive backfield, and wide receiver are the priorities, while depth on the offensive line and Quarterback-of-the-future (QBOTF) should also bear careful consideration. As they send several veterans to their retirements in the next year or two, there are replacements to be groomed in addition to the obvious upgrades they need at several positions.

The future direction of this franchise may very well be determined by the draft choices the Chiefs make next weekend. Edwards has a reputation for being a good judge of talent and had a couple of impressive drafts while head coach of the Jets. Ideally, the Chiefs would like to draft three solid defensive players on the first day. However, the lack of depth in this draft may mean they only get two players who can make contributions early in their careers. The Edwards Era in Chief history would get a major lift with a good draft. Here is hoping it’s a good one!

My two cents if I were in the war room, as if Herm or any of you really care…

:)


My 2006 Mock Draft in brief:
1. Tamba Hali, DE Penn State
1.a. ALTERNATE PLAN: (Based on Availability: Antonio Cromartie or Ty Hill, if you insist on a CB)
2. Darnell Bing, S USC
3. Dusty Dvorcek, DT Oklahoma
3b. TRADE-DOWN compensation: Jason Avant, WR Michigan
5. Rashad Butler, OT Miami-FL
6. Rashaan Powers-Neal FB Notre Dame
7. Brad Smith, QB Missouri

:hmmm:


Day One:

First Round:
TRADE DOWN (unless Bunkley or Ngata fall)

Tamba Hali, DE (Penn State) Hali is a fierce, high motor threat to rush the QB. He’s a bit undersized, but tough against the run. A poor man’s Dwight Freeney? (Back-up plan: Kamerion Wimbley)

OR, Antonio Cromartie or Ty Hill (Based on Availability: if you insist on a CB...but then you lose Avant, whom I really, really like despite the concerns of some about his speed.)

By trading down in the first round with the Giants, Bears, or Panthers, the Chiefs should be able to acquire a third or fourth round draft pick. That would recoup the draft pick they lost in signing Edwards.

If either Cromartie or Huff are still available when the Chiefs pick at 20, they would be hard for the Chiefs to pass on—and if they are available the Chiefs should grab them. If they can trade down for Ty Hill, I'd be okay with that too. I'm not confident in either of those scenarios, though. However, there should be good value at S and CB in the second round. The thinking here is to wait until the second round to fill a slot in the defensive backfield (maybe even wait until the third, hoping for Cedric Griffin, DeMario Minter, or Alan Zemaitis)

Other possible first round picks: Kamerion Wimbley (DE, FSU) Ty Hill (CB, Clemson), Jonathon Joseph (CB, Virginia Tech), Jason Allen (S, Tennessee), or Richard Marshall (CB, Fresno State.)

2nd Round:
54. Darnell Bing, S (USC) Bing is an instinctive, tough, and hard-hitting head-hunter. Though he is not as fast as some other safeties, he’s an experienced playmaker. A young Sammy Knight? (Backup plan: Pat Watkins)

Huff, Allen, and Whitner will be gone. Is Bing fast enough to play FS for a while? Maybe. But he could end up at SS, or even OLB. Bullocks might be available, and is faster. My gut says Bing will have a better NFL career.

Other possible second round picks: Mathias Kiwanuka (DE, Boston College) or Ko Simpson (S, South Carolina) could fall; otherwise Rodrique Wright (DT, Texas) or John McCargo (DT, Virginia Tech) should be able to step in at DT. I’ve also grown fond of Pat Watkins (CB/FS, FSU), Roman Harper (S, Alabama), or Daryl Tapp (DE, Virginia Tech).

Third Round:
85. Dusty Dvoracek, (DT, Oklahoma) Instinctive and intense football player, with a motor that never stops. In a word, tenacious. He’s had off-field issues, but he’s an on-field presence our D could use. (Back-up plan: Jonathon Lewis)

Unless Wright, Lewis, Wroten, or McCargo fall, Dvoracek is an easy choice here if the Chiefs are serious about fixing their defensive line. Dvorcek, alongside Hali and Jared Allen, could transform a weakness into a strength, and one of the best young defensive lines in the league.

3rd Round pick, from first round “trade-down:”

Jason Avant, (WR Michigan) A big, athletic, and polished WR who would be a good compliment to Sami Parker, as a possession receiver. (Back-up plan: Devin Aramashodo)

Other possible third round picks: Jonathan Scott (OT, Texas), Greg Lee (WR, Pittsburg), Hank Baskett (WR, New Mexico), Guy Whimper (OT, E. Carolina), Mark Setterstrom (OG, Minnesota).



Day Two:

Fifth Round:
Rashad Butler, (OT, Miami-FL) A great athlete who is quick and has great footwork. Explosive for his size. A project. Needs to add some weight, but can become an LT in the NFL. A Skinny Willie Roaf? (Back-up plan, Whimper, or Setterstrom—if they drop; as OL prospects do)

If Svitek, Sampson, Black, or Parquet don’t work out, here’s our next offensive linemen experiment.

Sixth Round:
Rashaan Powers-Neal, (FB, Notre Dame) Versatile athlete who can run and catch, but he is also a good blocker. TRich’s heir apparent?

Versatility is the key for FBs in the NFL today. And this kid is already a decent blocker on top of it.

Seventh Round:
Brad Smith, (QB, Missouri) A project and potential back-up QB? If nothing else, maybe he becomes an Antwan Randle-El type player for the Chiefs...



FLAME AWAY......heh

Ebolapox
04-21-2006, 12:34 AM
eh, it could be better, but I like it...

unfortunately, we draft at TWENTY...2...0...20...unless that's sandy eggo's draft...:spock:

otherwise.....DO IT, CARL!!!!!!!!

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 12:44 AM
eh, it could be better, but I like it...

unfortunately, we draft at TWENTY...2...0...20...unless that's sandy eggo's draft...:spock:

otherwise.....DO IT, CARL!!!!!!!!

I tried to be realistic too....:hmmm:

I fixed the 20th in the first round thing; thanks.

I'm surprised that seems to be the only major typo, as I've had more than a few....:p

Ebolapox
04-21-2006, 12:56 AM
heh...I'm not too sure how realisitic you are about who's gonna fall (I don't see bing being available in R2 when we pick), but I didn't see DJ falling to us last year--guess we'll know next saturday

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 01:01 AM
heh...I'm not too sure how realisitic you are about who's gonna fall (I don't see bing being available in R2 when we pick), but I didn't see DJ falling to us last year--guess we'll know next saturday

Yeah, some "experts" even have Ko Simpson falling to that spot....which I can't see. Bing's 40 yd dash probably cost him millions though, and he could fall. Otherwise, I really like the Watkins kid from FSU; I think he actually might be better in the NFL anyway.

Dunit35
04-21-2006, 04:26 AM
I really like your draft Kotter. Dvoracek reminds me of Chris Hovan...but maybe that is because they are both white with huge motors.

Warrior5
04-21-2006, 07:11 AM
I'm completely on-board with this mock.

Actual draft day is such an intangible...as far as Day 1s go, Carl has had the full spectrum of genious and bone-head. I'm hoping the unusually "quiet" off-season is merely a deception, and Carl comes out with guns blazing with some shrewd trades early on.

Of course, the annual Minnesota screw-up wouldn't hurt either... :)

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 07:47 AM
I really like your draft Kotter. Dvoracek reminds me of Chris Hovan...but maybe that is because they are both white with huge motors.

Exactly my thoughts, with hopes that'll he avoid the 5th year "let-down" that Hovan had. His first three years in the league, Hovan was a monster.


I'm completely on-board with this mock.

Actual draft day is such an intangible...as far as Day 1s go, Carl has had the full spectrum of genious and bone-head. I'm hoping the unusually "quiet" off-season is merely a deception, and Carl comes out with guns blazing with some shrewd trades early on.

Of course, the annual Minnesota screw-up wouldn't hurt either... :)

Yeah, being a Chief's fan with CP in charge of FA and the Draft is an trying experience, that's for sure. :banghead:

Mecca
04-21-2006, 08:31 AM
So we don't get a corner on day 1......but we get a slow WR who will probably struggle to get seperation against any type of defense. We also get a DT who has all sorts of atittude and character questions.......

Chiefnj
04-21-2006, 08:40 AM
So we don't get a corner on day 1......but we get a slow WR who will probably struggle to get seperation against any type of defense. We also get a DT who has all sorts of atittude and character questions.......


If the name Cromartie isn't in a Chiefs mock, you'll dismiss it for one reason or another.

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 08:42 AM
So we don't get a corner on day 1......but we get a slow WR who will probably struggle to get seperation against any type of defense. We also get a DT who has all sorts of atittude and character questions.......That's the way some would look at it.....

My take is, if we can improve the DLine and nab Bing/Simpson/Watkins at FS, that increased pressure from the front four (along with improved play from our safties) will enable us to play Herm's Cover-2 with Surtain and the winner of Battle/Hodge/Perkins/Johnson/FA acquisition. I think saftey is a bigger need for us, especially since the "experts" let Warfield walk--I think they must be somewhat comfortable with the situation at CB.

I'm of the opinion, that much of our problem with pass defense stems from a lack of pressure from the front four, and too many gambles and poor tackling from our safties. You fix those two problems, and suddenly even Sapp would probably do a decent job at the #2 CB position.

With Avant, his measurables don't reflect his football ability. He won't be a stretch the field deep-threat, but we already have Parker and Kennison. He's more of a possession, catch it over the middle, move the chains kind of WR.....who will also be good in the red zone--especially against zone coverages dictated by the presence of LJ and Gonzo. :D

As for the "attitude and character" questions some are concerned about with Dvorcek, how many players on our current roster have the same problem? And not the potential or talent. I can think of 6 or 8 pretty quickly....:shrug:

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 08:47 AM
If the name Cromartie isn't in a Chiefs mock, you'll dismiss it for one reason or another.

I said in my mock, if Cromartie (or Huff) is there at 20.....I SAY, "Take him." Maybe Mecca missed that. I just don't think they will be. I hope I'm wrong, because I really like the kid too....I just don't see him falling into our laps, like DJ did last year. :D

That said, with the other CBs.....I'd just as soon go my route.

htismaqe
04-21-2006, 09:06 AM
The only way those 2 first picks happen is if we trade down in the first and trade up in the 2nd...

Reaper16
04-21-2006, 09:09 AM
I'd take it.

Observation: how come every single white defender in the NFL is labled as having a "huge/bug/nonstop motor?

Sully
04-21-2006, 09:15 AM
I like Dvoracek.
But when you say "off-field problems" Wasn't he basically just going through depression? If that's the case, i would think that if it's being treated properly it shouldn't be a problem, and he'd be a great pick.

Of course, the Raiders felt the same about Barret Robbins.

phxchief
04-21-2006, 09:17 AM
No corner.... at all?

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 10:17 AM
The only way those 2 first picks happen is if we trade down in the first and trade up in the 2nd...

That was my original thought....but Bing's "speed" seems to have dropped him to the 5th-6th rated Safety, in the minds of many. I'm seeing boards where both he and Simpson are dropping into the latter part of the second round. :shrug:

Personally, I'd be happy with Wright in the second, and Watkins in the third....though Watkins may not last that long either.


Observation: how come every single white defender in the NFL is labled as having a "huge/bug/nonstop motor?

Good question. It seems to be a popular phrase with many DL prospects--but especially the Tackles. I think it differentiates them from the fat and lazy stereotype, maybe? And it seems to be the difference between the day one versus day two picks too.

I like Dvoracek.
But when you say "off-field problems" Wasn't he basically just going through depression? If that's the case, i would think that if it's being treated properly it shouldn't be a problem, and he'd be a great pick.

Of course, the Raiders felt the same about Barret Robbins.

I agree with you, but it is cited as a red flag often. I think it also involved some problems with alcohol and the police too, though.

No corner.... at all?

I consider Bing (or any real head-hunter type) a big addition to the secondary. I the winner of Battle/Hodge/Perkins/Johnson/FA acquisition will serve us fine in Herm's Cover-2, IF we get more pressure from the front four. :shrug:

Adding a FA CB would be good though. Woodson? :D

Tribal Warfare
04-21-2006, 10:31 AM
Claude Wroten could be steal if KC grabs him

Gaz
04-21-2006, 10:46 AM
I agree with the logic concerning the CB omission. I have long maintained that pass defense must be concentrated in The Enemy backfield. The PI rules clearly dictate this approach. I have not yet completely given up hope on Sims and Siavii, but I am hanging on by my fingernails.

Hicks is adequate against the run, but is not much of a pass rusher. It is probably time for him to take on a situational role and get someone who knows where the pencil-neck hangs out.

And since the Cover 2, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Kansas City, we need to give attention to the Safety position.

Pass rush first, Safety second. Whether that be via draft or FA is the interesting question.

Oh, and throw the Offense Homers a bone and give them a WR somewhere down the line. Buncha crybabies anyway...


xoxo~
Gaz
Fears all of this is for naught if Sims or Siavii cannot start getting an interior push.

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 10:51 AM
Claude Wroten could be steal if KC grabs himHe seems to be pegged for late first/early second....which is why I didn't mention him. He also comes up on "over-rated" lists quite often. He seems like a beast to me, though. But, then again, so did Ryan Sims. :banghead:

I agree with the logic concerning the CB omission. I have long maintained that pass defense must be concentrated in The Enemy backfield. The PI rules clearly dictate this approach. I have not yet completely given up hope on Sims and Siavii, but I am hanging on by my fingernails.

Hicks is adequate against the run, but is not much of a pass rusher. It is probably time for him to take on a situational role and get someone who knows where the pencil-neck hangs out.

And since the Cover 2, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Kansas City, we need to give attention to the Safety position.

Pass rush first, Safety second. Whether that be via draft or FA is the interesting question.

Oh, and throw the Offense Homers a bone and give them a WR somewhere down the line. Buncha crybabies anyway...


xoxo~
Gaz
Fears all of this is for naught if Sims or Siavii cannot start getting an interior push.
Then, Gaz approves? :hmmm:

:spock:

Gaz
04-21-2006, 10:55 AM
He seems to be pegged for late first/early second....which is why I didn't mention him. He also comes up on "over-rated" lists quite often. He seems like a beast to me, though. Bu, then again, so did Ryan Sims.

Then, Gaz approves?

Re-thinking your plan now, right?

xoxo~
Gaz
Has that effect on people.

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 11:05 AM
Re-thinking your plan now, right?

xoxo~
Gaz
Has that effect on people.
Oh, no. I struggled with the whole CB in the first yesterday as well.....but only if Cramartie is there. I'm not sure about Williams, Joseph, or Hill, so I'm inclined to stay with Hali, and a trade-down (no trade-down makes the decision even more difficult though.)

Just trying to accomodate the CB homers....heh. :p

CoMoChief
04-21-2006, 12:00 PM
Here's what I would like to happen....

1. DE Mathias Kiwanuka **Lets say we trade down because we know that he is still going to be there, then we pick up another third rounder.**

2. CB Ashton Youboty

3a. DT Rodrique Wright

3b. WR Jason Avant

5. OG Tony Palmer

6. Best player availble

7. Best player availble

I dont really know the posibilites of which players will go in which round, but I guess if some players were to fall, this is what I would like. Ive read some mock drafts that have these players falling in these respected rounds, but then again no one is gonna know until draft day.

Lurch
04-21-2006, 12:02 PM
Here's what I would like to happen....

1. DE Mathias Kiwanuka **Lets say we trade down because we know that he is still going to be there, then we pick up another third rounder.**

2. CB Ashton Youboty

3a. DT Rodrique Wright

3b. WR Jason Avant

5. OG Tony Palmer

6. Best player availble

7. Best player availble

I dont really know the posibilites of which players will go in which round, but I guess if some players were to fall, this is what I would like. Ive read some mock drafts that have these players falling in these respected rounds, but then again no one is gonna know until draft day.

Wright's stock seemed to drop for a while there, but appears to be back up. I doubt he makes it out of the second round. Too much upside.

Mecca
04-21-2006, 12:04 PM
If the name Cromartie isn't in a Chiefs mock, you'll dismiss it for one reason or another.

I thought the NFLDraftCountdown one was good........

Dave Lane
04-21-2006, 12:06 PM
So we don't get a corner on day 1......but we get a slow WR who will probably struggle to get seperation against any type of defense. We also get a DT who has all sorts of atittude and character questions.......


No your wrong theres no CB at all. Hey we still have Bartee in case any one gets hurt!

Dave

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 12:09 PM
No your wrong theres no CB at all. Hey we still have Bartee in case any one gets hurt!

Dave

1. a. "Alternate Plan" includes a CB for you CB homers.....:p

Warrior5
04-21-2006, 12:24 PM
To echo Gaz' logic:

If you agree the Chiefs' greatest weakness is pass D, continue reading...

If you agree that PI rules have certainly given the edge to enemy receivers, continue reading...

If you agree that Cover 2 is now here with the HE era, then...

while the Chiefs certainly need another good CB, the best way to attack the enemy's vertical O is by attacking the passer. Kill the QB.

In round 1, priority of pick should be DT or DE, then Safety, in that order.


A "best defense is a good offense" kinda guy.

Logical
04-21-2006, 03:11 PM
Pick after pick I like your mock Kotter, nice, I would come out draft weekend smiling if it were to go like that. Though I doubt Brad Smith ever amounts to anything, how often does a 7th rounder anyway?

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2006, 03:29 PM
Pick after pick I like your mock Kotter, nice, I would come out draft weekend smiling if it were to go like that. Though I doubt Brad Smith ever amounts to anything, how often does a 7th rounder anyway?

Thanks, Jim. :thumb:

Too bad I can't be in the "War Room" next weekend!!! :deevee:

LiL stumppy
04-22-2006, 08:46 PM
I totally agree with you on Dusty Dvorcek. I think he will be a great football player once he gets his attitude fixed up a little bit.

Lurch
04-23-2006, 08:43 PM
I totally agree with you on Dusty Dvorcek. I think he will be a great football player once he gets his attitude fixed up a little bit.
He and Jesus H. Christ (Savior and king, also known as Manny Lawson) in Round one) will make the Chief's Defensive line, heavanly. I mean, HEAVENLY. (Can you tell I just don't get the love affair with a too skinny DE, who's not a true LB...yet eithither?)

Mr. Kotter
04-24-2006, 10:58 AM
I totally agree with you on Dusty Dvorcek. I think he will be a great football player once he gets his attitude fixed up a little bit.

A lot of folks are worried about his off-the-field issues.....any insights there? Sounds to me like maybe he's coming around....

Mr. Kotter
04-24-2006, 12:18 PM
IF we go CB in the first.....the more I see of this guy, if he's there in the THIRD round.....we better take him. I realize the triefka of Allen, Grigsby, and this guy as three consecutive Buck Buchanan Award winners is amusing to some, but it just could happen....:hmmm:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/images/pixt.gif
Defensive End | Senior | Cal Poly
Chris GocongHeight: 6-2 1/8 | Weight: 263 | 40-Time: 4.70

Strengths:
Makes a lot of plays in the backfield and simply has a knack for getting to the quarterback...Intense and competitive with a non-stop motor...Smart and a hard worker with top intangibles...Plays with good leverage...Displays good strength and power...Was extremely productive and absolutely dominated at his level.

Weaknesses:
Did not play against elite competition...Doesn't have the size or bulk you look for...Has trouble shedding blocks...Might not have the agility needed to change positions...Just a situational player?...'Tweener who may not have a pro position

Notes:
Won the Buck Buchanan Award as the top defensive player in NCAA Division I-AA football...Had 36.5 sacks over the last two seasons...Played defensive end in college but could move to outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme at the next level.

Another, less optimistic eval:

MEASUREMENTS HEIGHT
WEIGHT
40 TIME
6'2"
263
4.7
ATTRIBUTE SCORE SIZE
SPEED
STRENGTH
ATHLETICISM
XFACTOR
7
7
7
7
6
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
EXCHANGE VALUE
32.0 Pros:
Cons: Draft Exchange Analysis:
2004 -- Moved from nose tackle to end on the defensive front ... finished as runner-up in balloting behind teammate Jordan Beck for the Buck Buchanan Award given annually to the best defensive player in Division I-AA ... started all 11 games for the second straight year and led the nation in sacks with 17.5 for 109 yards ... finished second in the nation in tackles for lost yardage with 21.5 for 125 yards ... fourth on the team in total tackles with 71, including 48 solo stops ... notched first career interception in season opener against Humboldt State and also had two pass breakups, one fumble recovery, one blocked kick and two forced fumbles ... helped Cal Poly's defense finish third in the nation in rushing defense, ninth in scoring defense and 41st in total defense ... postseason honors include The Sports Network All-America First Team Defense, Walter Camp Football Foundation All-American, College Sports Report.com Defensive Lineman of the Year (First Team Defense), I-AA.org All-Star Team, Football Gazette All-West Region Team (First Team Defense) and Great West Football Conference First Team Defense. ... size and strength give team good depth on the defensive line ... one solo tackle in 2005 Spring Game.

Mr. Kotter
04-26-2006, 12:09 PM
Bump for Sidewinder