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Mr. Kotter
04-23-2006, 10:10 PM
What I'm hoping for here is, that posters will find profiles and scouting reports from the top prospects at each of the positions of need for the Chiefs.

I'll use Laz's "rankings" from Draftdaddy.com, to start these threads...I hope you don't mind Laz; Draftdaddy's are a good place to start....

There are lots of "free sites" with profiles and scouting reports out there....this is the place to put all the stuff for WRs. However, if you have access to a premium site (and you have the right to cut and paste, with appropriate crediting of sources) and can post the profiles and scouting reports of the top prospects, or intriguing prospects that you would like to pimp/promote.....here's your chance. :thumb:

Cornerbacks


Top 10
Rank Name School
1. Tye Hill Clemson
2. Jimmy Williams Virginia Tech (FS)
3. Ashton Youboty Ohio State
4. Jon Joseph South Carolina
5. Kelly Jennings Miami
6. Antonio Cromartie Florida State
7. Richard Marshall Fresno State
8. Alan Zemaitis Penn State
9. Cedric Griffin Texas
10. Dee Webb Florida

on the cusp

Rank Name School
- Darrell Hunter Miami (Ohio)
- Will Blackmon Boston College (WR)
- Justin Wyatt USC
- DeMario Minter Georgia
- Tim Jennings Georgia
- Antoine Bethea Howard
- Marcus Maxey Miami (FL)
- Charles Gordon Kansas
- Nate Soelberg BYU

Reaper16
04-23-2006, 10:40 PM
Daniel Manning, Abieline Christian

Mr. Kotter
04-23-2006, 10:41 PM
Daniel Manning, Abieline Christian

They have him on the Safety list....as a tweener.

Reaper16
04-23-2006, 10:46 PM
They have him on the Safety list....as a tweener.
Ok. I could see a switch to FS.

Mr. Kotter
04-24-2006, 09:03 AM
Antonio Cromartie
http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showplayer.php?key=Antonio%20Cromartie*&legend=yes


MEASUREMENTS
HEIGHT
WEIGHT
40 TIME

6'2"
208
4.45
ATTRIBUTE SCORE SIZE
SPEED
STRENGTH
ATHLETICISM
XFACTOR
9
8
7
8
7
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
DRAFTX.com VALUE
80.0 http://www.nflfans.com/images/hide100x13.gif (http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showplayer.php?key=Antonio Cromartie*)DRAFTX.com VALUE Breakdown:Players are ranked according to their physical attributes. Then they are given a "XFACTOR" rating that captures intangibles such as heart, motor, coachability, intelligence, etc. The ratings are then put into a formula we call the "DRAFTX.com VALUE" (XVAL) that pegs the BEST OF THE BEST at as close to 100.0 as possible. However, it is possible to break the mold. If we evaluate a player that is absolutely ready to star in the NFL from Day 1, they can attain a score above 100.0 with the unimaginable greatest player ever scoring 103.0. But thats basically the Instant "Hall Of Fame" Level. It has not yet been achieved as the number one draft pick usually checks in at around 100.5-101.5

For the vast majority of the pro prospects, here's how the final XVAL is designed to shake out:
96-above - Cant miss future Pro Bowler headed for stardom. Sure starter.
90-95 - Blue chip prospect, will start and likely play an important role, possibly star. Sure starter, should be among the teams best.
80-89 - Definite starter. Can develop into a solid starter. Has some possibility of being one of the better players on the team.
70-79 - Can be a first string player and start. Solid pro prospect.
55-69 - Should definitely stick in pros. May be a starter with some time to develop.
30-54 - Probably will be selected to be developed into a player. Should be able to make team.
15-29 - Unknown future, but definitely worth a pick in the lower rounds.
0-14 - No one busting down the door to get this player. Uncertain pro material, may go undrafted.
Pros: Tremendous height, and top attributes for his size. Great ball skills, and an all-around solid cover corner. Is able to play the run adequately as well, rare specimen for the CB position.
Cons: Injury history and doesn't have that much experience. Scouts are also wondering whether he can get back his speed from before the injury.

Draft Exchange Analysis:
*HAS DECLARED FOR 06 DRAFT*

At Florida State: Regarded as one of the top cornerbacks in the country...a preseason Playboy All-American...starts at left corner this year after rotating with Bryant McFadden and Leroy Smith last season...tied for second in the ACC with teammate Pat Watkins with four interceptions in 2004...earned first team All-ACC honors...listed as the No. 2 cornerback in the nation and a first team preseason All-American by The Sporting News...excellent speed, was a member of the FSU track team that won the ACC Championship in 2004...named the most improved defensive back this spring...also got some snaps at wide receiver and was responsible for several big catches in scrimmages ...averaged 22.9 yards per kickoff return as a sophomore...has played in all 25 of FSU's games in his first two years.


Another...

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/tyehill.html
Height: 5-9 5/8 | Weight: 185 | 40-Time: 4.30

Height: 6-2 1/8 | Weight: 208 | 40-Time: 4.41

Strengths:
A tremendous natural athlete...Exceptionally fast for a guy of his dimensions...Has outstanding size with long arms...Has great hands and ball skills...Has a knack for coming away with the big play and interception...Has fluid hips and is a pure cover man...Physical and will support the run...A threat to score every time he gets his hands on the ball...Is also a good return man...Proved to be a game changer during his short career with the Noles and came through with a number of impact plays...Has a ton of upside and hasn't even begun to reach his vast potential.

Weaknesses:
Is coming off of a knee injury...Has only played in 25 total games and has very little starting experience...Very raw and his footwork and technique will need development...Needs to be more consistent...Is not a great tackler...Aggressive and will take too many risks at times...A project who has a high risk factor and his selection will be made mostly based on promise rather than actual production.

Notes:
Tore the ACL in his left knee in July and missed the entire 2005 season...Was a member of the FSU track team that won the ACC Championship in 2004...If his knee checks out okay in exams and he works out like he is capable of there is no reason why this guys stock won't soar leading up to the draft...A rare prospect who might have been a Top 5 overall pick in 2007 had he gone back to school.

Mr. Kotter
04-24-2006, 09:06 AM
Tye Hill

http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showplayer.php?key=Tye%20Hill


MEASUREMENTS HEIGHT
WEIGHT
40 TIME
5'10"
185
4.30
ATTRIBUTE SCORE SIZE
SPEED
STRENGTH
ATHLETICISM
XFACTOR
7
10
6
9
8
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
out of 10
DRAFTX.com VALUE
81.0 http://www.nflfans.com/images/show100x13.gif (http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/showplayer.php?key=Tye Hill&legend=yes)Pros: Blazing fast for a CB (supposed to run in the high 4.2s); has had a great career so far (had 30 passes defended between 2003 and 2004); QBs do not throw much to his side showing they're scared of him, true shutdown corner that wont allow big gains; great recovery speed; does not need a safety for help on passes, identifies routes very well.
Cons: Is only a generous 5"10, which could drag down his other great attributes as the NFL WRs continue to get bigger and stronger. Does not have the best hands and sometimes misses easy interceptions; can gamble jumping routes allowing some passes to be completed. Has not faced the best WRs in NCAA. Sometimes relies too much on his athletic ability to cover, is not as physical as you would like. Draft Exchange Analysis:
T. Hill Fact: Tied the Clemson record for passes defended in a season when he had 21 in 2004.
Years Lettered: 2002,03,04
Bowl Participation: Reserve running back in the 2002 Tangerine Bowl against Texas Tech and starting cornerback in the 2004 Peach Bowl against #6 Tennessee.
Fall 2005 Depth Chart Position: First-team cornerback

Overview: Listed as the seventh-best cornerback in the nation by Lindy's in its 2005 preseason issue...16th-best cornerback in the nation by Phil Steele...preseason first-team All-ACC selection by Lindy's and Street & Smith...preseason second-team All-ACC by Athlon and Phil Steele...third in the nation in passes defended (21) in the 11 games in 2004...Honorable Mention All-ACC defensive back in 2004...set the Clemson record for pass breakups and tied the record for passes defended in a season...had twice as many passes defended as any other Tiger and led the ACC in that category...

Another...

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/antoniocromartie.html

Height: 5-9 5/8 | Weight: 185 | 40-Time: 4.30

Strengths:
One of the fastest players in the draft and it translates to the field...Has great recovery speed...An explosive athlete...Has a very solid build for his size...Plays the ball in the air well...Tough and physical...Isn't afraid to play the run...Very fluid with great hips...Tremendous leaper...Has gotten better each year...Was very durable...Has a lot of experience...Is still improving and has a lot of upside.

Weaknesses:
Does not have ideal height...Hands are not the greatest and will drop some interceptions...Needs to improve in zone coverage...Will he be able to hold up physically at the next level?...Will have a hard time being as physical with pro receivers as he was with them in college...Is still raw and developing to a degree after dividing his attention between two sports for most of his collegiate career.

Notes:
Began his college career as a running back...Won ACC titles running the 60 (indoor), 100 and 400 (outdoor) for the Clemson track team...Focused his full attention on the gridiron as a senior and it showed...A better prospect than Jets 2nd round pick Justin Miller was a year ago and he was able to start as a rookie.

BigChiefFan
04-24-2006, 03:57 PM
Looks like the Vikings will be passing on Cromartie...


Vikings assess FSU defensive back's knee
From Staff, News Services
Last update: April 14, 2006 11:25 PM


The mind does matter on draft day

Wanting to check on the progress of Antonio Cromartie's recovery from a knee injury that sidelined him for the 2005 season, the Vikings had the Florida State cornerback in for a predraft visit this week. News of Cromartie's visit first appeared on Scout.com.
Cromartie was at least the second cornerback brought in by the team -- Georgia's DeMario Minter was in town Monday -- and the third defensive back. Tennessee safety Jason Allen visited Tuesday.

The 6-2, 205-pound Cromartie is projected as a late first-round pick.

Cromartie had surgery to repair his anterior cruciate ligament, lateral collateral ligament and the hamstring tendon in his left knee after being injured during voluntary workouts July 12.

His rehabilitation process was projected to be nine month. By bringing him in, the Vikings medical staff was able to give Cromartie a physical and get a better idea of his progress.

In 2004, Cromartie tied for the team lead with four interceptions and returned one for a touchdown at Florida State. However, he made only one start in two seasons. He could have improved his stock by returning to school but has decided to leave to help support his family.

On Friday, the Vikings hosted Alabama linebacker DeMeco Ryans and Southern Cal tight end Dominique Byrd. The Vikings have no visits planned for this weekend but expect to meet with Texas quarterback Vince Young on Monday.

The Vikings hold the 17th pick in the first round of the draft, which will be held April 29-30.

Under review

Fran Foley, Vikings vice president of player personnel, said he has made no decisions about the future of employees in the personnel department as well as the scouting staff. Many of their contracts expire May 31.

"I've told everybody all along from the start that those decisions would be made postdraft," he said

Unpleasant meeting

Seattle Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren talked with the Seattle Post-Intelligencer about the conversation he had with Steve Hutchinson after the Pro Bowl guard signed a seven-year, $49 million offer sheet to bolt to the Vikings.

Hutchinson had initially told Holmgren he wanted to remain in Seattle.

"He had no good answers," Holmgren said. "Even bright guys like Steve, they get involved with these big contracts and the agent steers him in a direction. ... It's the same conversation I've had with players over the years when something inconceivable happens."

Holmgren admitted the "poison pill" the Vikings inserted into Hutchinson's contract -- guaranteeing the entire deal if he was not the highest-paid offensive lineman on his team in 2006 -- was a shocker. "No one in their wildest dreams thought that Minnesota would do something that no team had done in 12 years because it's kind of unfair," Holmgren told the paper.


JUDD ZULGAD

Favre bonus on hold

The due date for Brett Favre's $3 million roster bonus -- originally scheduled last month -- has been moved to July 27, giving the three-time MVP more time to make a decision on retirement.

A person with knowledge of the decision, who spoke to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity because no formal announcement had been made, confirmed the change.


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