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shaneo69
04-25-2006, 11:29 AM
DAWES: MYTH, EXAGGERATION & UTTER NONSENSE
Apr 25, 2006, 4:09:31 AM by Rufus Dawes

Currently, there are many television pundits and ex-players appearing in frenetic fashion on television talking endlessly about the annual NFL draft. Sometimes they hype their knowledge or offer sharp rebukes to a team’s past picks. Sometimes they drop language that as self-proclaimed experts only they can truly understand.

Apart from the legitimate questions involved in showcasing a media appearance by offering an “inside” view when you aren’t on the inside and have spent only a couple of weeks thinking about a subject that others far more qualified have spent years on, what is striking is the empty nature of this talk rehashed ad nauseum.

Here are commonly held exaggerations, myths, and outright errors made by the media about the National Football League draft. They fall in no particular order:

1. The draft is less important now thanks to unrestricted free agency. At first blush, it might be natural to ask if it is less important why do the people who say so spend so much time talking about it? As fellow columnist Bob Gretz points out in his excellent series, NFL’s Best Defenses, “of all the major defensive contributors on (Pittsburgh and Baltimore’s teams in the 21st century Super Bowls), 22 were drafted or developed by the clubs. The Steelers had just two major contributors that came to them from other teams.” Fourteen starters from New England’s championship team the previous season came from the draft. Chicago had the number one defense in the NFL last year and allowed the fewest touchdowns. “They did all that and the Bears were also the youngest group among the league’s top defenses, averaging just 3.4 seasons of NFL experience and having only one major contributor who joined the league before the 2000 season,” according to Gretz’s research.

Why are media more infatuated with free agents than drafted players? My goodness, ESPN’s pundits and agent house-men have practically built their careers on them. Well, for starters, they feel more confident writing or talking about free agents. They know what they look like. They know what a Terrell Owens can do. The unknown, however, scares them.

2. Draft projections are accurate. Mock drafts are at best a media exercise in name-dropping and at worst simple plagiarism. (see number 3.) The greatest disservice to the media was the untimely death of draft guru Joel Buschbaum. Mel Kiper may be the media’s darling, but Buschbaum, as the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette aptly put it, was “the anti-Kiper.” (April 24, 2003) Buschbaum’s book was the draft bible for discriminating media. A man who preferred anonymity and seldom came out of his Brooklyn apartment except for draft weekends, Buschbaum was only interested in giving concise information on available players. With his passing, much of the information that remains is little more than jargon and bombast and is of limited use other than a listing of the players available at each position.

3. Draft grades are a legitimate form of analysis. Do you suppose if you were a parent you would protest if someone handed your son or daughter a grade and that person had no more than a surface knowledge of the subject he was grading? I imagine you would if you were any kind of parent. Like mock drafts, these evaluations are picked up from some fellow media member or what others believe the team didn’t address over the course of two days. The devil’s in the details, as they say, and there is precious little detail when the teachers in this respect can’t see beyond the first 32 picks if, indeed, it extends that far.

4. Productivity counts when evaluating a potential player. NFL teams in the first round draft “measurable” not “productivity.” How fast does he run? How tall is this quarterback? Rex Grossman had plenty of productivity but he was 6'1". Carson Palmer, however, was 6'5". Who fits the NFL prototype is what counts to NFL personnel people, if not to the media, especially in the first round. April is the month for measurables; August is for productivity.

5. You must take a quarterback in the first round if he’s there. Not if you expect immediate rewards you don’t. Apologies to the Kansas City Star writer Randy Covitz, who does expose the risks in taking a quarterback with the first pick, but he’s in the minority among media, or so it seems. (April 23, 2006) Any quarterback is at least a year away. The most prepared quarterback to come to the NFL in the last quarter of a century was Peyton Manning and his team lost 13 games his first year behind center and he threw 28 interceptions. By contrast, Ben Roethlisberger had immediate success because his team already had a powerful defense and an accomplished running game. Everyone is searching for a quarterback, but don’t expect him to come in and produce the first year. Better to pick one somewhere in the draft and hope to develop him over time.

6. ESPN is the best place to follow the NFL draft. Follow the draft? I suppose it is since you can find the results as they happen. But ESPN’s coverage also includes all the excesses included in the above. Give anyone on TV too much time to fill and the blather and blame far exceeds knowledge and gain.

7. Media draft payoffs have a long shelf life. What happens to those players who were chosen in a team’s last draft? What about a draft from three year’s past? You’ll never find out by following the media. Hits and misses are in short supply from the media’s perspective and teams that were chastised moments after the draft but who receive payoffs down the road from a particular draft class are ignored. Quick to jump on a soapbox, they’re just as quick to forget what they said three days later.

I think much of life comes down to incentives and deterrents, and right now there are no deterrents to just blurting out statements like the above. Will it ever change? Not in a world of 24-hour news cycles where reporters and pundits are always on the clock and find it tough keep from writing or speaking before they think.


http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2006/04/25/dawes_myth_exaggeration__utter_nonsense/

Rain Man
04-25-2006, 11:35 AM
4. Productivity counts when evaluating a potential player. NFL teams in the first round draft “measurable” not “productivity.” How fast does he run? How tall is this quarterback? Rex Grossman had plenty of productivity but he was 6'1". Carson Palmer, however, was 6'5". Who fits the NFL prototype is what counts to NFL personnel people, if not to the media, especially in the first round. April is the month for measurables; August is for productivity.


That's an interesting take. Bad, but interesting.

Mr. Kotter
04-25-2006, 11:35 AM
Rufus: "Fans of the NFL are idiots, and don't know nothing about anything."

SBK
04-25-2006, 11:38 AM
ROFL

morphius
04-25-2006, 11:38 AM
That's an interesting take. Bad, but interesting.
Yeah, that one was pretty disturbing.

shaneo69
04-25-2006, 11:44 AM
Yeah, that one was pretty disturbing.

If personnel guys would look more at college production and less at the measurables, you'd probably see a lot less first round busts.

jspchief
04-25-2006, 11:45 AM
Dawes already wrote this article last year. Somebody please bump it so I can copy and paste my response to this rehashed article.

Mr. Kotter
04-25-2006, 11:45 AM
If personnel guys would look more at college production and less at the measurables, you'd probably see a lot less first round busts.

I agree with that, but Rufus needs work his tone and "voice."

shaneo69
04-25-2006, 11:46 AM
I agree with that, but Rufus needs work his tone and "voice."

I wasn't agreeing with Rufus.

Chiefnj
04-25-2006, 11:47 AM
In other words, ignore the reporters at ESPN who scratch their head in disbelief this Saturday when KC grabs some reaches in the 1st and 2nd round.

htismaqe
04-25-2006, 11:52 AM
Rufus: "Fans of the NFL are idiots, and don't know nothing about anything."

He's right...just ask Laz. :D

jspchief
04-25-2006, 11:52 AM
Here's my response from when he wrote this article last year: Funny that he calls the draft as a TV event unimportant.
How many people on the Planet alone watched at least a portion of the draft? How many people posted mock drafts, or commented on mocks, or participated in mocks? How many of us are here now pouring over draft grades?


Seems to me that it appeals to a lot of football fans. We create mocks that are pure speculation, based on mostly opinion, then we watch teams speculate and opine on players in the draft, then we read and create grades that are pure speculation based on opinion.

Yes, It's mostly a load of crap. But judging by the industry it's created, it's a product that the NFL fan is buying. We're in the middle of the off-season, getting our NFL fix.

I'm always amazed that these media guys can be critical of our fanaticism. If we weren't as fanatical as we are, there would be a lot less need for the Rufus' of the world. The fan's never-ending thirst for sports related information and conversation is the sole reason that there are TV and Radio stations dedicated to sports, and countless journalists whose job is to cover only sports.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115223&page=1&pp=15

shaneo69
04-25-2006, 12:02 PM
In other words, ignore the reporters at ESPN who scratch their head in disbelief this Saturday when KC grabs some reaches in the 1st and 2nd round.

Yeah, when those stupid ESPN guys were ripping us for taking Siavii and Bartee in the 2nd round, all they were looking at was their lack of college production. They weren't smart enough to see the great measurables that only our scouts could be genious enough to spot.

Rain Man
04-25-2006, 12:08 PM
Yeah, when those stupid ESPN guys were ripping us for taking Siavii and Bartee in the 2nd round, all they were looking at was their lack of college production. They weren't smart enough to see the great measurables that only our scouts could be genious enough to spot.

And seven years later, Bartee still has great measurables, and he still has no production.

KCTitus
04-25-2006, 12:11 PM
Rufus: "Fans of the NFL are idiots, and don't know nothing about anything."

Yeah, he must read this BB...

jspchief
04-25-2006, 12:13 PM
Another thing that pisses me off about this article...

He tells ua all about how these guys don't know wtf they are talking about, but in the same breath expects us to take his word over theirs?

Apart from the legitimate questions involved in showcasing a media appearance by offering an “inside” view when you aren’t on the inside and have spent only a couple of weeks thinking about a subject that others far more qualified have spent years on, what is striking is the empty nature of this talk rehashed ad nauseum.
I'm sorry Rufus, who the f*ck are you to tell us who is or isn't an expert on the issue? So TV pundits don't know anything, but small city newspaper columnists are expert enough to dispell all the myths out there?

htismaqe
04-25-2006, 12:13 PM
Yeah, when those stupid ESPN guys were ripping us for taking Siavii and Bartee in the 2nd round, all they were looking at was their lack of college production. They weren't smart enough to see the great measurables that only our scouts could be genious enough to spot.

ROFL

:clap:

htismaqe
04-25-2006, 12:14 PM
Another thing that pisses me off about this article...

He tells ua all about how these guys don't know wtf they are talking about, but in the same breath expects us to take his word over theirs?

I'm sorry Rufus, who the f*ck are you to tell us who is or isn't an expert on the issue? So TV pundits don't know anything, but small city newspaper columnists are expert enough to dispell all the myths out there?

Rufus isn't a small city columnist, he works for the Chiefs.

tk13
04-25-2006, 12:15 PM
That's an interesting take. Bad, but interesting.
You think so? I would agree with that. The draft has become such a hyped event that things are overanalyzed. People put too much importance in those "measurables". We hear about 40 times and all that jazz, I think that is so overrated it's not even funny. All these people sit here and talk and talk and talk these players to death, to the point I think they end up completely marring reality.

Look at Derrick Johnson last year... perfect example. He had some great measurables but people talked and talked and talked him to death, and somehow ended up convincing themselves that he had all these flaws. Completely ignoring that he was probably the best defender in college football for the last two years.

jspchief
04-25-2006, 12:19 PM
Rufus isn't a small city columnist, he works for the Chiefs.What does he do for them besides write articles? What makes him more qualified on the subject than Kiper or any of the other draft pundits?

KCTitus
04-25-2006, 12:28 PM
Rufus isn't a small city columnist, he works for the Chiefs.

Right...Jason Whitlock is a small city columnist. He does know everything.

htismaqe
04-25-2006, 12:31 PM
What does he do for them besides write articles? What makes him more qualified on the subject than Kiper or any of the other draft pundits?

IMO, Rufus is actually Bob Moore or someone else in the Chiefs' front office.

htismaqe
04-25-2006, 12:32 PM
Right...Jason Whitlock is a small city columnist. He does know everything.

ROFL

Bearcat
04-25-2006, 12:35 PM
Yes, It's mostly a load of crap.


That's my view on most of it, but if you gave the media 3 months to cover anything, they would take the opportunity to overhype and overanalyze it. ESPN has draft specials everyday now, above all the other stuff they've done in the past.

I thought one of their commercials was really funny.... IIRC, it had some draft day busts, and then showed Tom Brady, Terrell Davis, etc... and then said "The Draft matters!"..... Well, if it's a crapshoot, everything up to the draft doesn't. :spock:

jspchief
04-25-2006, 12:36 PM
IMO, Rufus is actually Bob Moore or someone else in the Chiefs' front office.We can guess at who he is all day. And I imagine you're probably right about it being Moore.

But the fact is, for all we know, Dawes is nothing more than a columnist. So for him to tell us that others aren't experts, while expecting us to believe he is without providing his credentials is completely absurd.

He needs to either man up and tell us why we should take his word over theirs, or stfu and be treated with the same (or more) skepticism that he claims they deserve.

jspchief
04-25-2006, 12:42 PM
That's my view on most of it, but if you gave the media 3 months to cover anything, they would take the opportunity to overhype and overanalyze it. ESPN has draft specials everyday now, above all the other stuff they've done in the past.

I thought one of their commercials was really funny.... IIRC, it had some draft day busts, and then showed Tom Brady, Terrell Davis, etc... and then said "The Draft matters!"..... Well, if it's a crapshoot, everything up to the draft doesn't. :spock:I just think Dawes' attempts to discredit the attention it gets is a bunch of crap.

He acts like fans are going to take what these clowns on ESPN say as the gospel. The fact is, in a few years no one will care if Kiper said KC had a bad draft and was wrong. We'll just be happy is was a good draft. It's not like we'll refuse to see the talent in our players because of some post-draft grade from 3 years ago. Regardless of what Kiper and his goons say, fans will know what picks are bad soon enough.

As fans, we're not getting tricked by anyone in this whole thing. We're just getting our football fix in the middle of a long stretch of football downtime.

Damn I get tired of Dawes telling me I'm too fanatical. If guys like me didn't exist, his job wouldn't exist either.

KCTitus
04-25-2006, 12:47 PM
That's my view on most of it, but if you gave the media 3 months to cover anything, they would take the opportunity to overhype and overanalyze it. ESPN has draft specials everyday now, above all the other stuff they've done in the past.

That's odd, Ive never known ESPN to overhype anything before...

KCTitus
04-25-2006, 12:52 PM
I...The fact is, in a few years no one will care if Kiper said KC had a bad draft and was wrong. We'll just be happy is was a good draft. It's not like we'll refuse to see the talent in our players because of some post-draft grade from 3 years ago...

This is true...

I have this theory that people's memories with regard to what was said about a certain player when he was drafted is directly proportional to the players degree of failure in the league. ie, the worse the flop the longer the memory.

My buddy NaptownChief every year would trot out the famous Trezelle Jenkins pick...last time I can remember him doing that was in 2003. Jenkins was drafted in 1995.

Bearcat
04-25-2006, 01:00 PM
That's odd, Ive never known ESPN to overhype anything before...

That was half my point.

KCTitus
04-25-2006, 01:03 PM
That was half my point.

Jus' tryin' ta help.