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Mr. Kotter
04-26-2006, 10:16 PM
Assuming your pick is available (try to be realistic), either at 20 OR after a TRADE-DOWN (or a TRADE-UP?) in the first round, who should the Chiefs select with their first pick in the 2006 draft? :)

Poll to follow shortly.....

milkman
04-26-2006, 10:38 PM
Tick....tick.....tick......tick......tick.....tick......tick....tick.....I never saw anyone that took this long to create a poll.

Mr. Kotter
04-26-2006, 10:40 PM
Tick....tick.....tick......tick......tick.....tick......tick....tick.....I never saw anyone that took this long to create a poll.

Sorry, cryin' kid....had to give 'em some medicine. :(

Mr. Kotter
04-26-2006, 10:52 PM
Sidewinder:

If Bunkley drops into our laps, ala DJ last year.....I will be sooooooooooo drunk, I might act like ENDelt on a Saturday night!

PBJ PBJ PBJ

Miles
04-26-2006, 10:55 PM
Including Bunkley in this may skew the results more than a bit.

Mr. Kotter
04-26-2006, 10:59 PM
Including Bunkley in this may skew the results more than a bit.
I pondered that.....

I think most of us realize, Bunkley would require a trading UP.....which, I hope, is at least still on the table. :hmmm:

I mean, if Bunkley is there at 13, 14, or 15.....CP better be burning up the phone lines, IMO. I could live with swapping spots with, say, Baltimore or Philly, and giving them a 3rd rounder from next year.....:)

Miles
04-26-2006, 11:04 PM
I pondered that.....

I think most of us realize, Bunkley would require a trading UP.....which, I hope, is at least still on the table. :hmmm:

I mean, if Bunkley is there at 13, 14, or 15.....CP better be burning up the phone lines, IMO. :)

Yeah I was kind of thinking that was why you included him.

I ended up going with Jimmy Williams. I really don't care for his type of character but that may also cause a prospect like him to fall to KC's spot. I also like the CBs that may be around at the time we pick but I think FS would be of more value to use than a CB.

Mr. Kotter
04-26-2006, 11:12 PM
Yeah I was kind of thinking that was why you included him.

I ended up going with Jimmy Williams. I really don't care for his type of character but that may also cause a prospect like him to fall to KC's spot. I also like the CBs that may be around at the time we pick but I think FS would be of more value to use than a CB.

I just have a gut instinct about Hali.....I like him a lot AND I think we can find someone to trade down with, so we can pick up another pick in the third or fourth to recoup the pick we lost to the Jets for Herm. Otherwise, at this point if Cromartie or Williams are there at 20, I'd grab one of them.

Miles
04-26-2006, 11:28 PM
I just have a gut instinct about Hali.....I like him a lot AND I think we can find someone to trade down with, so we can pick up another pick in the third or fourth to recoup the pick we lost to the Jets for Herm. Otherwise, at this point if Cromartie or Williams are there at 20, I'd grab one of them.

Trading down for Hali wouldn't be a bad option at all just so long as we don't take him at #20. Im not real big on his upside but there seams to be guys that don't have great athleticism in every draft that turn out to be good pros. Who knows if he is one of them so long as we don't take him too early.

Cromartie is another I agree with you on. At least its looking like there will be some nice options around the time we pick at least even if Cromartie and Willams are gone. Definitly going to be an interesting Saturday.

Munson
04-26-2006, 11:44 PM
If available, they should pick Bunkley. But he probably won't be, so therefore, they should go with Lawson. He has a more realistic chance of being there at # 20.

ChiefsCountry
04-26-2006, 11:58 PM
My heart wants Jimmy Williams, my head says Tamba Hali.

Dunit35
04-27-2006, 01:33 AM
Why can't there be someone in this draft that I am madly in love with like I was with Carlos Rogers and DJ last year. I didn't care which one of them we picked.

Mr. Kotter
04-27-2006, 06:26 AM
Why can't there be someone in this draft that I am madly in love with like I was with Carlos Rogers and DJ last year. I didn't care which one of them we picked.Check out Cromartie, Lawson, J. Williams, and Hali (after a trade-down) more closely......I'd be pretty happy with any of those. :D

Douche Baggins
04-27-2006, 07:01 AM
We should trade our 1st and 2nd this year and our 1st and 2nd next year for the rights to Haloti Ngata.

Lurch
04-27-2006, 08:28 AM
We should trade our 1st and 2nd this year and our 1st and 2nd next year for the rights to Haloti Ngata.

Are you serious?

ct
04-27-2006, 08:33 AM
We should trade our 1st and 2nd this year and our 1st and 2nd next year for the rights to Haloti Ngata.

I would trade all that to get you to go away. Of course, "my" picks don't count, just like your posts.

RedThat
04-27-2006, 08:43 AM
We should trade our 1st and 2nd this year and our 1st and 2nd next year for the rights to Haloti Ngata.

You must have a boner for him, if your willing to give up 2 first rounders, and 2 second round picks for him.

Honestly, GoChiefs I wouldn't do that....thats ridiculously crazy...say he becomes a bust? then what?

give up practically your future for the next 2 years for 1 guy? No way....i wouldn't do that move....unless you're joking, then that's cool

RedThat
04-27-2006, 08:50 AM
Who should the Chiefs pick in the first round?

hmmmm.....it's either gotta be, the best CB or best passrusher available at the time when we pick.

Their are 2 guys I want, if they're there when we pick...I suggest we take either one of them. Manny Lawson or Jimmy Williams.

If it comes down to either Lawson or Williams, I want Lawson. If Lawson is gone by the time we pick, and Williams is still sitting there at 20, we shouldn't hesitate to pick Jimmy Williams.

oldandslow
04-27-2006, 09:13 AM
It's all about the DL...lawson

KevB
04-27-2006, 09:18 AM
I voted for Tye Hill. That guy is going to be a very good corner for years. He knows how to play the position, loves playing football, and is FAST. He's a playmaker who has the confidence to step right in and play.

The other guy I'd like to see is Manny Lawson. I tuned in to 3 NC State games this year specifically to watch Mario Williams, and I came away each time more impressed with Lawson. He's explosive, and makes a ton of plays. Obviously Williams size makes him more of a prospect, but Lawson is also a playmaker. My concern is that we wouldn't find a way to take advantage of his talent, and he'd turn into Gary Stills.

Coogs
04-27-2006, 09:31 AM
I went with Lawson. In the 2nd round, maybe CB Cedric Griffin from Texas. He sounds like the perfect type of CB for the cover two system.

hypersensitiveZO6
04-27-2006, 09:35 AM
I like Tye Hill, or Jason Allen as our first rounder, if Bunkley is off the board. Second round, Claude Wroten.

ct
04-27-2006, 09:40 AM
Hali in a trade down.

Woodrow Call
04-27-2006, 10:03 AM
I went with Jimmy Williams. None the DT's that are likely available excite me as 1st rounders and IMO a healthy Carlos Hall could probably match Hali's rookie numbers.

FS/CB is a huge need and Williams fills that need.

Mr. Kotter
04-27-2006, 10:44 AM
Hali in a trade down.

I've been saying it for a couple of weeks now: probably the kiss of death though.

I gotta admit, Williams and Lawson would bring a big smile to my face as well.

RedThat
04-27-2006, 10:53 AM
I went with Jimmy Williams. None the DT's that are likely available excite me as 1st rounders and IMO a healthy Carlos Hall could probably match Hali's rookie numbers.

FS/CB is a huge need and Williams fills that need.

I like Jimmy Williams...and I agree with you, he would fill an immediate need at either FS/CB. However, I REALLY think this team needs another passrusher first and foremost before anything else...If its between Williams and Lawson....mmm that'll be a tough decision....but i have to give the edge to Lawson.

Lurch
04-27-2006, 04:57 PM
I like Jimmy Williams...and I agree with you, he would fill an immediate need at either FS/CB. However, I REALLY think this team needs another passrusher first and foremost before anything else...If its between Williams and Lawson....mmm that'll be a tough decision....but i have to give the edge to Lawson.

I'd lean toward Williams, given a choice. I'd still prefer a trade down at that point, I think.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2006, 05:11 PM
I don't think we have a snowball's chance in Hell at Jimmy Williams.

milkman
04-27-2006, 09:18 PM
Sidewinder:

If Bunkley drops into our laps, ala DJ last year.....I will be sooooooooooo drunk, I might act like ENDelt on a Saturday night!

PBJ PBJ PBJ

Actually, my vote for Bunkley was a cat related accident.

milkman
04-27-2006, 09:28 PM
Who should the Chiefs pick in the first round?

hmmmm.....it's either gotta be, the best CB or best passrusher available at the time when we pick.

Their are 2 guys I want, if they're there when we pick...I suggest we take either one of them. Manny Lawson or Jimmy Williams.

If it comes down to either Lawson or Williams, I want Lawson. If Lawson is gone by the time we pick, and Williams is still sitting there at 20, we shouldn't hesitate to pick Jimmy Williams.

I want Williams also, if Lawson is gone.

But as a safety, not a corner.

CupidStunt
04-28-2006, 06:18 AM
I simply can't choose one, because i'm so high on a small number of prospects likely to be available.

I guess, at a PUSH, i'd say Tye Hill. Cromartie is JUST behind him, though, and I mean right behind. Then it drops off a bit and one of Jason Allen/Donte Whitner/Jimmy Williams/Manny Lawson/Kamerion Wimbley would be a fine choice.

Outside of those guys, i'm probably not going to be THRILLED (unless it's an unexpected steal). Guys like Jonathan Joseph I wouldn't mind at all, but I just wouldn't be excited about it.

Mr. Kotter
04-28-2006, 07:53 AM
20, even 30, THIS year is still a good spot to pick a great prospect.

htismaqe
04-28-2006, 08:18 AM
I simply can't choose one, because i'm so high on a small number of prospects likely to be available.

I guess, at a PUSH, i'd say Tye Hill. Cromartie is JUST behind him, though, and I mean right behind. Then it drops off a bit and one of Jason Allen/Donte Whitner/Jimmy Williams/Manny Lawson/Kamerion Wimbley would be a fine choice.

Outside of those guys, i'm probably not going to be THRILLED (unless it's an unexpected steal). Guys like Jonathan Joseph I wouldn't mind at all, but I just wouldn't be excited about it.

You have Hill and Cromartie ahead of Allen, Williams, and Lawson?

BigChiefFan
04-28-2006, 08:27 AM
Manny Lawson. Big surprise, huh?

CupidStunt
04-28-2006, 08:55 AM
You have Hill and Cromartie ahead of Allen, Williams, and Lawson?

Yes.

Allen I like a lot (more than most, it would also seem) but not more than Hill and Cromartie.

Williams I also like, but his confidence is borderline arrogance and i'm not as high on him as I was.

Lawson is one of my favorite players in the draft but i'm not sold on him in the 4-3, though i'd like to be. I have my doubts and would love to be proven wrong.

Lurch
04-28-2006, 12:46 PM
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Mr. Laz
04-28-2006, 12:51 PM
do people realize that cromartie didn't even play last year?

the rust for being off a year
leftovers from the acl injury
lack of playing experience in general (has never been a starter)
stepping up from college to the NFL


i don't see how anyone can expect for cromartie to contribute in any meaningful way this year.

CupidStunt
04-28-2006, 01:36 PM
the rust for being off a year
leftovers from the acl injury
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If he's still rusty and not 100%, then can you imagine how sick he could be?

lack of playing experience in general (has never been a starter)

He did start one game, and played in 25.

stepping up from college to the NFL


In fairness, every rookie has to do this, and i'd say Cromartie's tools give him a good opportunity to make that next step.

i don't see how anyone can expect for cromartie to contribute in any meaningful way this year.

You make it sound a lot worse than it is.

Bottom line, he's a very gifted athlete with limited experience and room for technique improvement.

That describes a number of guys in this draft.

Do people forget or just not realize that - for example - Jonathan Joseph missed most of 2004 with a broken bone and is also a very inexperienced player?

Cromartie is not alone.

Mr. Kotter
04-28-2006, 09:37 PM
Manny Lawson. Big surprise, huh?

Tamba pulled back in front...:hmmm:

chubychecker
04-28-2006, 09:42 PM
If either bunkley or justice make it to us; I think it is a no brainer; however, neither probably will so I'll say Manny. Pass rush is more important than coverage since the rule change.

Tribal Warfare
04-28-2006, 09:47 PM
If either bunkley or justice make it to us; I think it is a no brainer; however, neither probably will so I'll say Manny. Pass rush is more important than coverage since the rule change.

and helps with run defense too