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Loki
04-28-2006, 08:39 PM
( source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12535896/) )

Mexico poised to allow small amounts of drugs

Congress decriminalizes possession of cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, pot


MEXICO CITY - Mexico’s Congress approved a bill Friday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, ecstasy, cocaine and heroin for personal use — a measure sure to raise questions in Washington about Mexico’s commitment to the war on drugs.

The only step remaining was the signature of the president, whose office indicated he would sign it.

Mexican officials hope the law will help police focus on large-scale trafficking operations, rather than minor drug busts. The bill also stiffens penalties for trafficking and possession of drugs — even small quantities — by government employees or near schools, and maintains criminal penalties for drug sales.

The Bush administration had no immediate reaction.

The bill, passed by Mexico’s Senate on a 53-26 vote with one abstention, had already been approved in the lower house of Congress and was sent to the desk of President Vicente Fox for his signature.

“This law gives police and prosecutors better legal tools to combat drug crimes that do so much damage to our youth and children,” presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar said.

The bill says criminal charges will no longer be brought for possession of up to 25 milligrams of heroin, five grams of marijuana (about one-fifth of an ounce, or about four joints), and half a gram of cocaine — about half the standard street-size quantity, which is enough for several lines of the drug.

Array of other drugs allowed
“No charges will be brought against ... addicts or consumers who are found in possession of any narcotic for personal use,” according to the Senate bill, which also lays out allowable quantities for a large array of other drugs, including LSD, MDA, ecstasy — about two pills’ worth, — and amphetamines.

Some of the amounts are eye-popping: Mexicans would be allowed to possess 2.2 pounds of peyote, the button-sized hallucinogenic cactus used in some native Indian religious ceremonies.

Mexican law now leaves open the possibility of dropping charges against people caught with drugs if they are considered addicts and if “the amount is the quantity necessary for personal use.” But the exemption isn’t automatic.

The new bill drops the “addict” requirement — automatically allowing any “consumers” to have drugs — and sets out specific allowable quantities.
Sale of all drugs would remain illegal under the proposed law, unlike the Netherlands, where the sale of marijuana for medical use is legal and it can be bought with a prescription in pharmacies.

While Dutch authorities look the other way regarding the open sale of cannabis in designated coffee shops — something Mexican police seem unlikely to do — the Dutch have zero tolerance for heroin and cocaine. In both countries, commercial growing of marijuana is outlawed.

The effects could be significant, given that Mexico is rapidly becoming a drug-consuming nation as well as a shipment point for traffickers, and given the number of U.S. students who flock to border cities or resorts like Cancun and Acapulco on vacation.

“This is going to increase addictions in Mexico,” said Ulisis Bon, a drug treatment expert in Tijuana, where heroin use is rampant. “A lot of Americans already come here to buy medications they can’t get up there ... Just imagine, with heroin.”

Loki
04-28-2006, 08:40 PM
another great step in the "war on drugs"... :rolleyes:

what a farce and complete waste of money/resources.

Sully
04-28-2006, 08:42 PM
Mexico's tourism is bound to jump due to this. Spring Break will be even bigger than it was in places like Cabo and the like.

Loki
04-28-2006, 08:51 PM
Mexico's tourism is bound to jump due to this. Spring Break will be even bigger than it was in places like Cabo and the like.

lol... probably.

(it'll be good for the kidnappers and crooked cops also... your
son/daughter will be released from our prison for a "nominal" fee...)

Adept Havelock
04-28-2006, 08:54 PM
Great. I'm sure the "war on drugs" supporters(i.e. idiots who didn't learn the lesson of the 18th and 21st Amendments) will use this as an excuse to siphon even more funding out of the Federal Budget.

This, while incidently increasing their own little petty bureaucratic fiefdoms and enriching their allies in the private prison/security industries.

Oy. You'd have thought that the failed "great experiment" would have taught these fools a lesson, but nope. Every year we throw billions more down the same gaping hole.

What's really sad is that it appears "backward" Mexico, parts of W. Europe, and Canada have considerably more intelligent policies on this subject than we do.

Now, I wonder just how long until some zealot of a congresscritter tries to push legislation making 1)possession "in the blood" of narcotics illegal, followed by 2)mandatory testing of any citizen who returns from a nation with a more intelligent drug policy? Not that I think it has a chance in hell of passing, but it would likely help some congresscritter zealots get reelected.

After all "tough on drug crime" is a pretty good vote getter from the mouth breathers. [/rant]

Hydrae
04-28-2006, 09:26 PM
As a pot smoker, this is ridiculous. 5 grams of pot? A 1/4 is 7 grams! If you are really thinking this is for personal use, what the hell is 5 grams good for???

Also, I do not understand the whole concept off legalizing personal use amounts of drugs but keeping the selling of those drugs illegal. Where do you think I am getting them from if I am not buying them from someone??? :shake:

It is perhaps a step in the right direction but there are some definite problems with how this is set up.

Loki
04-28-2006, 09:30 PM
As a pot smoker, this is ridiculous. 5 grams of pot? A 1/4 is 7 grams! If you are really thinking this is for personal use, what the hell is 5 grams good for???

Also, I do not understand the whole concept off legalizing personal use amounts of drugs but keeping the selling of those drugs illegal. Where do you think I am getting them from if I am not buying them from someone??? :shake:

It is perhaps a step in the right direction but there are some definite problems with how this is set up.

either roll up a fat-a$$ blunt with your 5 grams of weed or you'll just have
to move on up to the 2.2lbs of peyote... ;)
http://www.nparikh.org/pub/images/giant-doobie.jpg

memyselfI
04-28-2006, 09:37 PM
Great, now perhaps it's their turn to bitch and :deevee: about illegal American aliens coming to their country.

Ari Chi3fs
04-28-2006, 09:41 PM
Yeah... Im thinking there will be less immigration into America after this. The migrant workers will be all ****ed up and unmotivated to come to US. heh.

Loki
04-28-2006, 09:50 PM
Great, now perhaps it's their turn to bitch and :deevee: about illegal American aliens coming to their country.

that'll work... we can send them all our addicts and neer-do-wells.
rush can be their spokesperson... :p

memyselfI
04-28-2006, 09:54 PM
that'll work... we can send them all our addicts and neer-do-wells.
rush can be their spokesperson... :p

:clap: ROFL

Well, the amounts they are authorizing here are small potatoes compared to his high quantity consumption of hillbilly heroin. But hey, he could still maintain his heroin useage was LEGAL. :hmmm:

banyon
04-28-2006, 10:11 PM
Great. I'm sure the "war on drugs" supporters(i.e. idiots who didn't learn the lesson of the 18th and 21st Amendments) will use this as an excuse to siphon even more funding out of the Federal Budget.

This, while incidently increasing their own little petty bureaucratic fiefdoms and enriching their allies in the private prison/security industries.

Oy. You'd have thought that the failed "great experiment" would have taught these fools a lesson, but nope. Every year we throw billions more down the same gaping hole.

What's really sad is that it appears "backward" Mexico, parts of W. Europe, and Canada have considerably more intelligent policies on this subject than we do.

Now, I wonder just how long until some zealot of a congresscritter tries to push legislation making 1)possession "in the blood" of narcotics illegal, followed by 2)mandatory testing of any citizen who returns from a nation with a more intelligent drug policy? Not that I think it has a chance in hell of passing, but it would likely help some congresscritter zealots get reelected.

After all "tough on drug crime" is a pretty good vote getter from the mouth breathers. [/rant]

The technology is already here:

http://www.prisoners.com/wilson21.html

banyon
04-28-2006, 10:14 PM
Great, now perhaps it's their turn to bitch and :deevee: about illegal American aliens coming to their country.

Yeah, but they might have an easier time catching this guy:

http://www.hoghoggidyhog.com/stoner.jpg

memyselfI
04-28-2006, 10:20 PM
Yeah, but they might have an easier time catching this guy:



LOL.

On a tragic note, it's a shame to think our young people can go to Mexico for a week and come back a heroin addict. :eek:

I do not agree with the cocaine, ecstasy, and heroin elements of this law. The pot part... :clap: :thumb:

Loki
04-28-2006, 10:25 PM
Yeah, but they might have an easier time catching this guy:

http://www.hoghoggidyhog.com/stoner.jpg

hey, i object! that's "stoner profiling" !!


(dang... his parents must be proud...)