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Wile_E_Coyote
05-04-2006, 10:33 PM
Chiefs RB Larry Johnson still unhappy

DOUG TUCKER

Associated Press


http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/14502302.htm

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Larry Johnson wants everybody to know he is still not happy.

Not after going to the Pro Bowl. Not after rushing for a Kansas City Chiefs record 1,750 yards. Not after having fans approach him on the streets of New York and Las Vegas and tell him how great he is. Not even after hobnobbing with celebrities as a newly minted celebrity himself.

"No, I'm never happy," the running back said Thursday.

"When I feel like I'm successful in my own right, I will never be happy with anything, period. I haven't started one full season yet. I haven't gotten this team to a Super Bowl. As far as my career, it's still starting off late, I feel. So I can't overall be happy about where I'm at right now, 'cause like I said, I feel like I'm still playing catch-up."

One thing the fourth-year Penn State product has caught up with is a job as a starter. When three-time Pro Bowler Priest Holmes went out last season with neck trauma, the sullen backup finally got the chance he always said he deserved.

He started nine games and went over 100 yards each time, topping 200 twice. His 1,627 yards from scrimmage in games played on or after Nov. 1 were the most in NFL history.

Even if Holmes decides to come back and resume his career, new head coach Herman Edwards has assured Johnson that he, not Holmes, will go into camp as the starter.

That much does make him happy. So does having Edwards as his head coach instead of the retired Dick Vermeil. He and Vermeil clashed repeatedly during his first three stormy years after being taken in the first round in 2003. But now, he says, he has a head coach who's in his corner for the first time since he was a high school senior.

"For (Edwards) to come out and say that, and make it be known to everybody when we really haven't had our first minicamp yet - it's new to me. Usually, I would have to wait and wait and wait and try to figure out myself if I was going to start or not," he said. "But he stepped up and told me I was going to be a starter.

"I'm not really surprised. But at the same time, I am. I haven't had a coach like that."

Holmes, as mysterious as always, has sent word he will not participate in the Chiefs' mandatory minicamp May 19-21 because he still does not have medical clearance. Team president Carl Peterson has said that he still expects Holmes to return.

Holmes was one of the NFL's top running backs when Johnson was drafted. Nevertheless, Johnson insists he still is bitter that he did not step right in as the starter.

"I'm still two and maybe three years behind," he said. "This will be my first time starting a regular season. All I have to prove is if I can carry the load for 16 games."

Now that he's finally won the job, does he think those struggles the first two years helped make him a better player?

"Not really," he said. "It just made me a little bit more frustrated, made me a little bit more (angry) that I had to go up to the season, that I had to make up for a lot of ground, that I missed my first two seasons here. I feel like I'm still playing behind the eight-ball.

"I still feel like I have a lot to prove."

---edit---from---KCChiefs.com-----------------------------

Q: Were you surprised that Herm Edwards named you the starting running back so quickly?

LARRY JOHNSON: ďI was surprised because Iím not used to have a coach that can Ė especially not knowing if Priest (Holmes) was going to return or not Ė come out and say that and let it be know to everybody when we hadnít had our first mini-camp yet. Itís new to me. Usually I would have to wait, and wait, and wait and try to figure it out myself if was going to be starting or not, but he stepped up and told me I was going to the starter.ď

Q: What did that mean to you?

JOHNSON: ďI knew that I was going to be the starter sooner or later, I just had to prove to everybody else that I could step up to the challenge to handle the job and try to get this team to the Super Bowl.ď

Q: Do you think the struggles youíve had have made you a better football player?

JOHNSON: ďNot really, it just made me a little more frustrated and a little more upset a the fact that I needed to make up more ground that I missed my first two seasons here. It feels like I still have to get the ball rolling because I feel like Iím still playing behind the eight-ball.ď

Q: What does it feel like to lose FB Tony Richardson to free agency?

JOHNSON: ďIt means a lot because Tony has been a really good friend. I didnít talk to many players on the team besides Tony. His lockerís right next to mine and we kid and joke so much that it really hurts to lose a really good friend and a bigger brother to another team. It was a really bad loss.ď

Q: Are you ready to be a leader on this team both on and off the field?

JOHNSON: ďThere are about six or seven leaders and Iím just one of many leaders on this team. All I have to do is keep doing what Iíve been doing and lead by example and do what I did the last nine games which is step up and be a leader on the field, not necessarily off the field, but be a leader on the field mostly.ď

Q: Is rushing for 2,000 yards a goal for you?

JOHNSON: ďThereís only one goal and thatís to get Will Shields, Willie Roaf, Trent Green and those guys a change to go to the Super Bowl. That 2,000-yard stuff doesnít bother me much and itís not really one of my goals. If it happens, it happens and if I doesnít Iíve got about four, five or maybe seven or eight years left in me to try to get that record. But Willie Roaf and Will Shields obviously donít have as much time as I do to try to get to a Super Bowl ring.ď

Q: Willie Roaf said that it would be special to him if you were able to do something like rushing for 2,000 yards. Do you think about that?

JOHNSON: ďThey would be a big part of that, but I think it would be better as a team if we went to the Super Bowl and got a ring. If I got 2,000 yards it would be nice, but they donít hand out championship rings for guys who block for guys that have 2,000 yards. So Iíd rather give those guys a Super Bowl and have them go on with their career and life after football with a Super Bowl ring on their hand.ď

Q: What did you mean by the comment that youíre still behind the eight-ball.

JOHNSON: ďOther guys are already veterans like LaDainian Tomlinson or other guys that have had shots at starting already and getting through their first starts. Iím still two, maybe three years behind because I havenít started until the last couple games of the season. So this will be my first start to the regular season. As far as being behing the eight-ball I still have a lot to prove if I can carry the load for 16 games.ď

Q: Do you feel like there is added pressure on you?

JOHNSON: ďThere isnít added pressure from other people, itís more pressure on myself because I know what I can do. Itís just a matter of making everything fit and making everything gel in the right place for me to be successful.ď

Q: Do you have to change your game any knowing that youíre starting 16 games and not just nine like last year?

JOHNSON: ďNo, not really. If we were still playing right now after nine games I would still continue for seven more games with the same attitude I had when I started at Oakland. Nothingís going to have to change except maybe being a little smarter as far as practice goes or as far as what I do when Iím not playing football.ď

Q: Do you think the offense is going to change at all this year?

JOHNSON: ďItís basically going to stay the same. You donít mess with greatness unless you have to do. Mike Solari knows the offense and weíre going to run the same offense weíve been running since Iíve been here.ď

Q: What were your thoughts when Mike Solari was named offensive coordinator?

JOHNSON: ďI was really excited because I had a little bit more of a relationship with Mike Solari than I did with Al (Saunders). I think with Mike being more of an offensive line guy I felt better talking to him about certain things because he was the guy I had to talk to as far as what the offensive line was going to block and how they were going to block. So I was excited for Coach Solari to get that job.ď

Q: Is it a legitimate concern that Mike Solari may not be as familiar with the passing game as some offensive coordinators?

JOHNSON: ďItís not a real big concern. Like I said, you donít touch greatness and weíre going to do what Iíve been doing for the last couple seasons since Iíve been here and even before Iíve been here. Weíve always been good in different areas and tuning up different areas to make us even better.ď

Q: What are your expectations of Ronnie Cruz possibly taking over the fullback position?

JOHNSON: ďI expect Ronnie (Cruz) to do an outstanding job. Ronnieís a lot younger than Tony is and is almost the same as me as far as experience but I think Ronnie knows what he has to do and knows what he wants to do. I have to make sure that he does it to the best of his ability and make sure that we sit down and have a relationship like Tony and I had. Hopefully it can last longer than four or five years.ď

Q: Can you tell us about DE Tamba Hali?

JOHNSON: ďMy dad knows a little bit more about (Hali) than I do. I only played with him for a year when he was a freshman. I just knew that he was a great kid and obviously going back and watching the Penn State games he obviously stepped up in the Ohio State game and a couple other games that really had me watching him more than the other guys on the team.ď

Q: How are you handling all the national attention youíre getting these days?

JOHNSON: ďI answer questions when I need to and do interviews when I have to, but it really doesnít bother me as far as the attention and stuff like that. Iím just having fun in the off-season and I do different things Ė not football-wise Ė that I never thought Iíd get into. Now Iím going them and Iím having fun in my off-season.ď

Q: Like what?

JOHNSON: ďI was in Aspen, Colorado doing a Roca Wear photo shoot with Jay-Z and Beyonce. I had fun hanging out with them and then when I go to New York I hang out with him some more. There are a lot of good things that he and I talk about and itís nice to sit down with him on that big of a stage as far as entertainment level to just kick back with and not worry about anything else.ď

Q: QB Trent Green said he was impressed at how you handled yourself at the Pro Bowl. What was that experience like?

JOHNSON: ďIt was alright except for having to wait so late in the game to play. But I understand that weíve got Edgerrin James and LaDainian (Tomlinson), so Iíd rather not even play and just watch those guys play because theyíve been awesome in there careers. Iím just a first-timer in the Pro Bowl, so hopefully as the years go on if I make it to more Pro Bowls I can have somebody who made it for their first time say the same thing about me.ď

Q: Are you enjoying being Larry Johnson?

JOHNSON: ďI loved being Larry Johnson in the off-season my rookie and second year. This time Iím actually doing a little bit more stuff in the community and doing a little bit more stuff media-wise to better my career off the field. But as far as having fun, Iíve had fun my last three seasons because nobody really expected much of me. This year a lot of people expect a lot of me right now and with people coming up to me so Iíve just got to take it in stride.ď

Q: Are you getting recognized in public a lot more now?

JOHNSON: ďYeah, if I have one more person say that I saved their fantasy draft I should be rich by now. Itís fun having guys recognize you. Expecially when Iím in New York and you have die-hard Giants, Yankees and Mets fans come up to you and say, Ďhey you saved my fantasy season.í Itís funny but itís nice to have those people rooting for you.ď

Q: Are you happy overall now?

JOHNSON: ďIím never happy. When I feel like Iím successful in my own right I will never be happy with anything period. I havenít started one full season yet, I havenít gotten this team to a Super Bowl. As far as my career itís still starting off late, so overall I canít be happy where Iím at right now because Iím still playing catching up. Iím really looking forward to this season and getting things rolling because I feel like I still have a lot to prove.ď

Q: Do you feel like youíve ever had a head coach who believes in you like Coach Edwards does?

JOHNSON: ďThe only coach I had like that was Coach (Dave) Lintal, my high school coach my senior season. He and my dad, but he doesnít count. He was the last guy that was really behind me when I was looking to get recruited. I wasnít even really recruited then and he helped me out a lot as far as getting me into college and getting me where I needed to be.ď

Q: You feel like Herm believes in you that way?

JOHNSON: ďYeah, itís special. A lot of coaches that Iíve dealt with in the past and knew in the past, there are only two guys Herm and Coach Lintal that have really been behind me.ď

Q: Are you happy with your current contract?

JOHNSON: ďWhen the contract time comes Iíll answer that. Right now Iím just enjoying the off-season. I donít have to get into contract talks until my contractís up. Thatís not even something that I even care to get into. Iím not the one who has to go to Carl Peterson and write down contracts. I donít do that type of stuff. All they ask me to do is run the football.Ē

Sure-Oz
05-04-2006, 10:35 PM
I saw the interview, he wants the team to win and alot of things to happen, he is glad herm supports him, let him play with something to prove and never be content. I also think he is sick of haearing about Priest.

Moooo
05-04-2006, 10:35 PM
That's why I'd be a horrible football player. I'd be like, "Its all good, whatever."

If he's getting tired of hearing about Priest, then..."PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST!" Now, run for 2,100!

Moooo

Ari Chi3fs
05-04-2006, 10:44 PM
He is pissed that TRich left... TRich was his only friend on the team, and he is REALLy gonna miss him.

|Zach|
05-04-2006, 10:54 PM
He is pissed that TRich left... TRich was his only friend on the team, and he is REALLy gonna miss him.
Based on?

Mr. Laz
05-04-2006, 10:57 PM
kinda twisting "Not Satisfied" with "Not Happy"

|Zach|
05-04-2006, 10:59 PM
kinda twisting "Not Satisfied" with "Not Happy"
My first thought as well.

Rausch
05-04-2006, 11:00 PM
He feels he's got a lot of $#it to prove to himself.

Not anyone else, himself.

That's exactly what makes a great player.

He's like a faster Okoye with Tank Abbott's brain...

KcMizzou
05-04-2006, 11:03 PM
kinda twisting "Not Satisfied" with "Not Happy"Yeah, that's a pretty misleading headline.

Wile_E_Coyote
05-04-2006, 11:07 PM
Q&A added from KCChiefs.com

Tribal Warfare
05-04-2006, 11:10 PM
LJ is our version of Bobby Beuche, RUNNIN FUEL!!!!

cdcox
05-04-2006, 11:14 PM
"No, I'm never happy," the running back said Thursday.


PBJ PBJ PBJ

cdcox
05-04-2006, 11:16 PM
Q: Can you tell us about DE Tamba Hali?

JOHNSON: "I don't play for f'n Penn State anymore, bitch."

Tactical Funky
05-04-2006, 11:26 PM
LJ is the friggin' MAN!

I love how he's so intent on getting Shields, Roaf, Green, et al their Superbowl rings.

Stay angry, Larry. :D

noa
05-04-2006, 11:50 PM
I hope we give him so many carries that if he does decide to leave the Chiefs in a few years, he won't have much left in him. Its clear he's not a huge fan of the Chiefs franchise, so the least we can do is use the hell out of him while we have him.

Ari Chi3fs
05-04-2006, 11:53 PM
Based on?

Nick Athan.


Nah, I heard an interview with him on 610AM... he is REAL sad that TRich is gone. He was commenting that he was his only friend and confidant on the team.

Rausch
05-04-2006, 11:56 PM
Funny how no one was more pissed than me when we drafted the guy and he's turned into EXACTLY the RB I've dreamed Carl would draft for 10 years...

Halfcan
05-05-2006, 01:24 AM
If we get homefield advantage in the Playoffs, nobody is going to beat us. Especially if it is raining and muddy.

I really like what I am hearing from Roaf and LJ. They seem pretty focused.

HMc
05-05-2006, 05:47 AM
Nick Athan.


Nah, I heard an interview with him on 610AM... he is REAL sad that TRich is gone. He was commenting that he was his only friend and confidant on the team.

There's 54 of them, he should be able to find another friend.

Rausch
05-05-2006, 05:51 AM
If we get homefield advantage in the Playoffs, nobody is going to beat us. Especially if it is raining and muddy.


End of ****ing story...

Guru
05-05-2006, 05:53 AM
If we get homefield advantage in the Playoffs, nobody is going to beat us. Especially if it is raining and muddy.

I really like what I am hearing from Roaf and LJ. They seem pretty focused.

Then make it rain and mud for every week of the season.

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 06:05 AM
kinda twisting "Not Satisfied" with "Not Happy"

True.

It's still ironic.

Most fans would read "Star Player is not happy" and they'd get upset.

We read it and we rejoice.

:D

beer bacon
05-05-2006, 06:09 AM
Then make it rain and mud for every week of the season.

Arrowhead: the only roofed, climate controlled stadium where it is 40 degrees with freezing rain every game of the year.

Guru
05-05-2006, 06:09 AM
Arrowhead: the only roofed, climate controlled stadium where it is 40 degrees with freezing rain every game of the year.

There is a "Priceless" commercial. ROFL

beer bacon
05-05-2006, 06:10 AM
True.

It's still ironic.

Most fans would read "Star Player is not happy" and they'd get upset.

We read it and we rejoice.

:D

If you want Hulk to smash you don't tell him to take ten deep breaths and calm down. You sleep with his girlfriend, and then send him a video of the performance.

Guru
05-05-2006, 06:14 AM
If you want Hulk to smash you don't tell him to take ten deep breaths and calm down. You sleep with his girlfriend, and then send him a video of the performance.


Geez!!! :eek:

Just get out of the way defenses!!!! :#

ExtremeChief
05-05-2006, 06:22 AM
KMBC ran a story last night saying he was "outspoken" and that he had some bad things to say about his former coach. Then the piece had the same quotes this piece had. Doesn't look to me like he said anything bad. If anything he just continues to put more pressure on himself because he hasn't proven anything to anybody yet.

If we can improve in the red zone a little this year we should be ok, because I think he'll get the rock down there.

jspchief
05-05-2006, 06:31 AM
I wonder how much cheering Chiefs fans will be doing when he's still "not happy" during contract negotiations.

Rausch
05-05-2006, 06:47 AM
If you want Hulk to smash you don't tell him to take ten deep breaths and calm down. You sleep with his girlfriend, and then send him a video of the performance.

I feel obligated to post something here but....

http://www.toymania.com/columns/spotlight/images/moviehulkhat.jpg

"This is rushing Crown BIDGE!"



I like LJ!......Giggity giggity G00!

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 06:55 AM
I wonder how much cheering Chiefs fans will be doing when he's still "not happy" during contract negotiations.

They were pretty accepting when Priest pulled it.

It's a business.

jspchief
05-05-2006, 06:58 AM
They were pretty accepting when Priest pulled it.

It's a business.I'm not just talking about money. I'm talking about him wanting out. He still regularly brings up the fact that he was benched for the first two years. I just have this bad feeling that he's going to hold a grudge.

His being pissed at the world is all fine and good right now, but how good will it be when he's pissed at KC too?

Rausch
05-05-2006, 07:00 AM
They were pretty accepting when Priest pulled it.

It's a business.

When you've done more in 9 games than any person at your postition in Chiefs history has in any 16 game stretch...

I'm pretty understanding...

Chiefnj
05-05-2006, 07:03 AM
They were pretty accepting when Priest pulled it.

It's a business.

Lots of fans turned on Holmes and Tony when they had contract disputes. They re-welcomed them within seconds of their re-signing though.

Rausch
05-05-2006, 07:06 AM
Lots of fans turned on Holmes and Tony when they had contract disputes. They re-welcomed them within seconds of their re-signing though.

Big difference.

Gonzo WANTED to go to SF at the time, Priest just wanted to get paid according to his production...

big nasty kcnut
05-05-2006, 07:13 AM
LJ angry is a good thing. The chiefs new motto should be Nobody get out of the field alive.

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 07:31 AM
I'm not just talking about money. I'm talking about him wanting out. He still regularly brings up the fact that he was benched for the first two years. I just have this bad feeling that he's going to hold a grudge.

His being pissed at the world is all fine and good right now, but how good will it be when he's pissed at KC too?

I've heard enough from him to be confident that he doesn't hold a grudge against the team. He holds a grudge against two coaches that are now both gone. If anything, he LOVES Carl Peterson...

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 07:31 AM
When you've done more in 9 games than any person at your postition in Chiefs history has in any 16 game stretch...

I'm pretty understanding...

Yup. That's exactly how I feel.

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 07:32 AM
Lots of fans turned on Holmes and Tony when they had contract disputes. They re-welcomed them within seconds of their re-signing though.

The fans that "turned" on Holmes and Gonzales (I'm one of those that soured on both of them) didn't exactly welcome them back with open arms. To this day, I don't think either of them handled it correctly.

Rausch
05-05-2006, 07:36 AM
The fans that "turned" on Holmes and Gonzales (I'm one of those that soured on both of them) didn't exactly welcome them back with open arms. To this day, I don't think either of them handled it correctly.

All I need to know about Holmes I saw the Texans game when he was the ONLY Chief who gave a **** enough to run down the CB, across the field, and still was only about 2 seconds short of saving a touchdown.

Afer that play I was almost ashamed he was a Chief. We didn't deserve him...

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 07:40 AM
All I need to know about Holmes I saw the Texans game when he was the ONLY Chief who gave a **** enough to run down the CB, across the field, and still was only about 2 seconds short of saving a touchdown.

Afer that play I was almost ashamed he was a Chief. We didn't deserve him...

Wow. That's a bit extreme.

There were only 2 or 3 guys on the field that should even bother chasing that guy going to other way. Does Willie Roaf not give a shit simply because he acknowledged the fact that chasing the guy was futile?

Rausch
05-05-2006, 07:46 AM
Wow. That's a bit extreme.

There were only 2 or 3 guys on the field that should even bother chasing that guy going to other way. Does Willie Roaf not give a shit simply because he acknowledged the fact that chasing the guy was futile?

Odd how 20 yards down field only Green and Holmes were in screen.

Green was the ****ing QB...

HMc
05-05-2006, 07:51 AM
wasn't there a playoff game last year when a tackle caught a corner (okay he didn't catch him from behind but he made the stop).

Can't bloody remember though.

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 07:55 AM
Odd how 20 yards down field only Green and Holmes were in screen.

Green was the ****ing QB...

Green and Holmes already had a 10-yard headstart. That's the funny thing about being in the BACKFIELD.

FAX
05-05-2006, 08:40 AM
Larry Johnson does not require happiness.

Happiness is for p*ssies.

FAX

Ultra Peanut
05-05-2006, 08:50 AM
Every time I see his words, I think, "This guy is going to do some amazing things on the field."

JimNasium
05-05-2006, 08:52 AM
I'm becoming a bigger LJ and Herm fan every single day.

Rausch
05-05-2006, 08:57 AM
Larry Johnson does not require happiness.

Happiness is for p*ssies.

FAX
ROFL

Classic.

Saved...

Kerberos
05-05-2006, 08:58 AM
wasn't there a playoff game last year when a tackle caught a corner (okay he didn't catch him from behind but he made the stop).

Can't bloody remember though.

Patriots at Donks if I am not mistaken.

Patriots lineman got the angle of persuit and tackled (Chump Bailey? Don't remember?) down on like the 2 or 3 yard line.


.

duncan_idaho
05-05-2006, 09:34 AM
Read this, then had this vision...

Random sideline reporter before playoff game: Larry, how do you feel about playing the Broncos' defense?
Larry Johnson: (Ivan Drago voice) I must break them.

LJ proceeds to beat the Broncos into the dirt. Unlike Rocky Balboa, they don't get up...

kaplin42
05-05-2006, 09:35 AM
I have to agree that he doesnt exactly sound happy to be a Chief. But I would be willing to bet, after a new contract, and a full season of starting he will probably become our biggest cheerleader. I like his anger that you can just sense lying in wait just under the surface. I hope he opens the season up by shredding Cincy's D. A good 200+yd rushing game from him would be a great boost to the entire team. I personaly believe that the real test will come when we play Pitt. They are always in the top 10 on Rushing D and I think they will be a great challenge. Damn I just want the season to start already.

dtebbe
05-05-2006, 09:42 AM
Larry Johnson sucks and isn't worthy of holding Priest's jock strap :Poke:

Now, if I could just figure out how to get this on the bulletin board at mini camp.... ROFL

DT

Mr. Laz
05-05-2006, 09:57 AM
True.

It's still ironic.

Most fans would read "Star Player is not happy" and they'd get upset.

We read it and we rejoice.

:D
yep...

in fact, i wish a few other chiefs players weren't quite so "happy".

Wile_E_Coyote
05-05-2006, 10:03 AM
Larry Johnson sucks and isn't worthy of holding Priest's jock strap :Poke:

Now, if I could just figure out how to get this on the bulletin board at mini camp.... ROFL

DT
Priest's name doesn't bring out the warm & fuzzies in LJ.

He upstaged Priest. Priest freaking Holmes :eek:

I pity the poor rb that has to follow these two

HMc
05-05-2006, 10:03 AM
Patriots at Donks if I am not mistaken.

Patriots lineman got the angle of persuit and takled (Chump Bailey? Don't remember?) down on like the 2 or 3 yard line.


.

Is that the controversial ben watson one?

I think i'm thinking of another, but perhaps not.

vailpass
05-05-2006, 11:15 AM
It's going to be interesting to see how LJ does in his first full year as the feature back against defenses that have seen him before and are now focusing their game planning on him.

C-Mac
05-05-2006, 11:27 AM
I'm not just talking about money. I'm talking about him wanting out. He still regularly brings up the fact that he was benched for the first two years. I just have this bad feeling that he's going to hold a grudge.

His being pissed at the world is all fine and good right now, but how good will it be when he's pissed at KC too?

Give him a year as the starter and a year with Coach Edwards and any bad attitude toward KC will be all but forgotten.

C-Mac
05-05-2006, 11:30 AM
It's going to be interesting to see how LJ does in his first full year as the feature back against defenses that have seen him before and are now focusing their game planning on him.

What makes you think its any different than last year? Once he was named the starter....those defenses definetly planned for him.

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 11:40 AM
It's going to be interesting to see how LJ does in his first full year as the feature back against defenses that have seen him before and are now focusing their game planning on him.

ROFL

Keep hoping.

He started 9 games last year. Defenses were gameplanning for him after his first couple of big games.

He set the Chiefs single-game record at the END OF NOVEMBER.

jidar
05-05-2006, 11:41 AM
This headline is bullshit and this interview is awesome. Why do they always have to try to make him look like a malcontent?

vailpass
05-05-2006, 11:47 AM
ROFL

Keep hoping.

He started 9 games last year. Defenses were gameplanning for him after his first couple of big games.

He set the Chiefs single-game record at the END OF NOVEMBER.

No hoping involved, geniunely curious. I would think the same way if LJ were on my team; it's natural for the NFL to adjust to a RB in his second year.The difference between last year and this year is that now teams have seen him and played against him.

FAX
05-05-2006, 12:14 PM
No hoping involved, geniunely curious. The difference between last year and this year is that now teams have seen him and played against him. If you don't think that makes a diffrence you aren't as football savvy as I thought you were.

Mr. vailpass, you are an extemely intelligent person, so please disconnect the neural inhibitor prior to posting.

Do you not think that teams "game planned" for Priest as well? Are you saying that LJ cannot respond to "game planning" as well as every other elite running back in the league whose opponents "game plan" for them?

FAX

vailpass
05-05-2006, 12:19 PM
Mr. vailpass, you are an extemely intelligent person, so please disconnect the neural inhibitor prior to posting.

Do you not think that teams "game planned" for Priest as well? Are you saying that LJ cannot respond to "game planning" as well as every other elite running back in the league whose opponents "game plan" for them?

FAX

LJ is not yet an elite RB in the league. Last year he showed signs, in an abreviated season, of having the potential to become elite.

The difference is that now opposing defenses have played a game against LJ. The NFL adjusts to 2nd year RBs. Running backs do not respond to game planning, they are what they are. It is up to OCs to respond.

When you combine that with the fact that LJ no longer has one of the game's better lead-black FB's, the KC O-line is old and just got another year older, LJ will have to carry the entire load for 16 games AND be required to pass block, IMHO this makes for a situation that arouses curiosity.

Again, I would have the same curiosity if LJ were on my team.

CosmicPal
05-05-2006, 12:59 PM
LJ is not yet an elite RB in the league.

:rolleyes:

Come fantasy football this upcoming season- Larry Johnson will be one of the first backs selected. Some peeps will decide to pick him over LT and Shaun Alexander. In all of the fantasy leagues, he will be one of the top three backs selected over everyone else.

Now, that's an ELITE back!

InChiefsHell
05-05-2006, 01:28 PM
ON the KCChiefs website, the audio had someone asking him if he had spoken with Priest. It went like this:

Q - Have you spoken to Priest at all lately?
LJ - No (looks away for another question)
Q - Do you care?
LJ - No

Daaaaamn. I'd say he's sick to death of Priest and all the talk of Priest. My take on LJ is that he is a sullen individual who is exactly the opposite on the field. I don't think he's capable of being truly happy, and that in an of itself is what makes him happy...

...Crazy.

beer bacon
05-05-2006, 01:38 PM
Mr. vailpass, you are an extemely intelligent person, so please disconnect the neural inhibitor prior to posting.

Do you not think that teams "game planned" for Priest as well? Are you saying that LJ cannot respond to "game planning" as well as every other elite running back in the league whose opponents "game plan" for them?

FAX

Once teams figure out they have to actually tackle him, instead of bouncing off him, to bring him down, and thusly must also run faster then him instead of slower, LJ is doomed.

Woodrow Call
05-05-2006, 01:43 PM
LJ is not yet an elite RB in the league. Last year he showed signs, in an abreviated season, of having the potential to become elite.

He showed the same signs the year before when Priest and Blaylock were out. It is not like defenses had never seen him before. Everytime he has gotten a chance he has shined.

skky man
05-05-2006, 01:44 PM
He started nine games last year and got a good number of carries before that. Coaches aren't stupid they game plan but plans don't block or tackle. Like Jim Brown wasn't game planned not that LJ is equal to that but great backs produce and that's just the facts!

InChiefsHell
05-05-2006, 01:48 PM
I think if a back does something that no other back in the history of the NFL has ever done, that sorta kinda makes him elite...doesn't it??

...the question is can he repeat being elite?

I say yes to both.

penchief
05-05-2006, 01:51 PM
Funny how no one was more pissed than me when we drafted the guy and he's turned into EXACTLY the RB I've dreamed Carl would draft for 10 years...

You know what's funny? I think the guy really does care more about playing football than making money. It's his identity. He's a very proud player. He strives for personal excellence. He wants to be great. It's really nice hearing one of our team's players talk with so much self-confidence and know that he has the ability to back it up.

penchief
05-05-2006, 02:01 PM
It's going to be interesting to see how LJ does in his first full year as the feature back against defenses that have seen him before and are now focusing their game planning on him.

It won't matter a bit. You don't think they were gameplanning against him in week 14, 15, or 16 last year? LJ is a rare talent and will prove once again this season that all he's ever needed was the opportunity.

vailpass
05-05-2006, 02:03 PM
It won't matter a bit. You don't think they were gameplanning against him in week 14, 15, or 16 last year? LJ is a rare talent and will prove once again this season that all he's ever needed was the opportunity.

It will be interesting to watch.

jspchief
05-05-2006, 02:10 PM
LJ is not yet an elite RB in the league. Last year he showed signs, in an abreviated season, of having the potential to become elite.

The difference is that now opposing defenses have played a game against LJ. The NFL adjusts to 2nd year RBs. Running backs do not respond to game planning, they are what they are. It is up to OCs to respond.

When you combine that with the fact that LJ no longer has one of the game's better lead-black FB's, the KC O-line is old and just got another year older, LJ will have to carry the entire load for 16 games AND be required to pass block, IMHO this makes for a situation that arouses curiosity.

Again, I would have the same curiosity if LJ were on my team.If you want to say he'll struggle due to the loss of T-Rich, and an aging O-line, that's one thing. But to claim his production will drop because D-coordinators have figured him out is absurd.

KC's running game isn't about facing defenses that don't know what to do. It's about execution. We line up and execute our running plays better than the defenders can execute their defense. It doesn't matter that they know what's coming.

Skip Towne
05-05-2006, 02:11 PM
He feels he's got a lot of $#it to prove to himself.

Not anyone else, himself.

That's exactly what makes a great player.

He's like a faster Okoye with Tank Abbott's brain...
I'd like to see a site that has the 40 times of all players. LJ may be a little faster than Okoye but not much. Christian was fast, we just never could get him loose out in the open.

noa
05-05-2006, 02:11 PM
I have to agree that he doesnt exactly sound happy to be a Chief. But I would be willing to bet, after a new contract, and a full season of starting he will probably become our biggest cheerleader. I like his anger that you can just sense lying in wait just under the surface. I hope he opens the season up by shredding Cincy's D. A good 200+yd rushing game from him would be a great boost to the entire team. I personaly believe that the real test will come when we play Pitt. They are always in the top 10 on Rushing D and I think they will be a great challenge. Damn I just want the season to start already.

I agree that he might become more enthusiastic about being a Chief if he does well this year and our team makes the playoffs. However, when Will Shields and Willie Roaf are gone, it will be a different picture. We may have a decent offensive line in the future, but we'll never have another Roaf or Shields. Without the benefit of running behind the best offesnive line in the league, his incentives for remaining a Chief diminish, especially if we go through a couple rocky years breaking in a new QB. Even if we offer him lots of money, he seems to be attracted to the glamourous life-style (chillin with Jay-Z and Beyonce in Aspen), and this could lead him to NY or CA. That's why I say run him as much as possible while we have him, and if he leaves, at least we can say we got as much out of him as we possibly could.

vailpass
05-05-2006, 02:19 PM
If you want to say he'll struggle due to the loss of T-Rich, and an aging O-line, that's one thing. But to claim his production will drop because D-coordinators have figured him out is absurd.

KC's running game isn't about facing defenses that don't know what to do. It's about execution. We line up and execute our running plays better than the defenders can execute their defense. It doesn't matter that they know what's coming.

I'm sorry you find my curiosity absurd. Is the concept of opposing defenses adjusting to a straight up-and down runner after having seen him a time or two that far-fetched?

My thinking is that LJ does not create his own holes/plays; he seizes on the large holes created for him then uses his skills to make big plays. There are employees on each NFL team called Defensive Coordinators whose job it is to recognize and counteract such events. They do this by gathering data and adjusting accordingly.

I'm curious to see those adjustments.

jspchief
05-05-2006, 02:25 PM
I'm sorry you find my curiosity absurd. Is the concept of opposing defenses adjusting to a straight up-and down runner after having seen him a time or two that far-fetched?

My thinking is that LJ does not create his own holes/plays; he seizes on the large holes created for him then uses his skills to make big plays. There are employees on each NFL team called Defensive Coordinators whose job it is to recognize and counteract such events. They do this by gathering data and adjusting accordingly.

I'm curious to see those adjustments.He started 2 games in '04, and 9 games in '05 (with a lot of carries in the other 7 games). And nowhere in those 9 final games did anyone figure out how to stop him. How many games do they need to finally figure him out? If there was some secret formula to stopping him, I would think coaches would have had enough film last year to figure it out.

Great players do their thing regardless of teams scheming against them.

buddha
05-05-2006, 02:26 PM
LJ feeds off of his own "anger" or whatever each of you wants to frame it as. I think everything funnels into LJ's mind (frustration, insecurity, disappointment, discontentment, etc.) as "anger." If that floats his boat and makes him a better player - great!

ct
05-05-2006, 02:31 PM
Patriots at Donks if I am not mistaken.

Patriots lineman got the angle of persuit and tackled (Chump Bailey? Don't remember?) down on like the 2 or 3 yard line.


.

That was a TE. And it WAS a touchback. :)

ct
05-05-2006, 02:35 PM
:rolleyes:

Come fantasy football this upcoming season- Larry Johnson will be one of the first backs selected. Some peeps will decide to pick him over LT and Shaun Alexander. In all of the fantasy leagues, he will be one of the top three backs selected over everyone else.

Now, that's an ELITE back!

So just curious, if you had LJ and LT on your team, and could keep only 1 of them for the next season, who would you choose?

Note this is NOT a rhetorical question. It is my delimna...

ct
05-05-2006, 02:41 PM
I agree that he might become more enthusiastic about being a Chief if he does well this year and our team makes the playoffs. However, when Will Shields and Willie Roaf are gone, it will be a different picture. We may have a decent offensive line in the future, but we'll never have another Roaf or Shields. Without the benefit of running behind the best offesnive line in the league, his incentives for remaining a Chief diminish, especially if we go through a couple rocky years breaking in a new QB. Even if we offer him lots of money, he seems to be attracted to the glamourous life-style (chillin with Jay-Z and Beyonce in Aspen), and this could lead him to NY or CA. That's why I say run him as much as possible while we have him, and if he leaves, at least we can say we got as much out of him as we possibly could.

If he leads us to a Super Bowl victory, and Roaf, Shields, and even Green hang it up, I'm OK if Carl lets him find his $20M plus signing bonus in NY or Cali. Obviously I'd prefer he stay, but you can't sustain a championship team with that 1 superstar eating up all the cap. Indy has tried and tried, but they just can't get there.

vailpass
05-05-2006, 02:45 PM
He started 2 games in '04, and 9 games in '05 (with a lot of carries in the other 7 games). And nowhere in those 9 final games did anyone figure out how to stop him. How many games do they need to finally figure him out? If there was some secret formula to stopping him, I would think coaches would have had enough film last year to figure it out.

Great players do their thing regardless of teams scheming against them.

Regardless of any part-time work LJ had in the past Priest was always the focal point of any defensive game plan against KC. This is the first year that focus will be switched 100% to LJ.
If you don't acknowledge a difference we are at an impasse.

Iowanian
05-05-2006, 03:29 PM
Its great that he's still got a chip on his shoulder now. He runs great when he's carrying that chip.

How is it going to be in a couple of years, when he's due a new contract the same time Carl is retiring? How great is it going to be, if the season turns south in the next year or two and he's disgruntled.

He obviously doesn't like Vermiel or Saunders, doesn't seem to respect Paterno and apparently doesn't care much for Priest....and isn't going out of his way to make friends with other players, and doesn't appear to love being a Chief.

I think he'll run like a clydesdale in KC for 2 more seasons and then try to get out to one of the "bigtime" cities on the coast.

BWillie
05-05-2006, 04:08 PM
I'm all for him being angry as long as he doesn't pistol whip his biotches anymore. You can't play football when your in jail.

Thig Lyfe
05-05-2006, 04:09 PM
Good. We want LJ angry.

What would piss him off so much would be to give Priest the start on Week 1. Then LJ will run for 500 yards a game.

duncan_idaho
05-05-2006, 04:34 PM
Regardless of any part-time work LJ had in the past Priest was always the focal point of any defensive game plan against KC. This is the first year that focus will be switched 100% to LJ.
If you don't acknowledge a difference we are at an impasse.

In both cases where Johnson has taken overóthe last nine games last season, the end of the í04 seasonóPriest was completely out of the game. There was no chance of him playing. I'll give you that trying to prepare for both of them might make things easier for Johnson, and that teams might have a harder time preparing for Johnson the first game he starts carrying the load... but after that, they would have enough film to see what KC was trying to do differently with Johnson in there instead of Holmes. By his second game as the starter last season, they'd have enough film to see the differences.

You're severely undervaluing the amount of work DCs do in season, I think. Any Chiefs opponent could have seen what they were doing with Johnson simply by looking at the game tape from the previous week.

Hydrae
05-05-2006, 04:46 PM
For everyone who seems to be sure LJ will leave at the end of his contract, note the bold below:

Q: What are your expectations of Ronnie Cruz possibly taking over the fullback position?

JOHNSON: ďI expect Ronnie (Cruz) to do an outstanding job. Ronnieís a lot younger than Tony is and is almost the same as me as far as experience but I think Ronnie knows what he has to do and knows what he wants to do. I have to make sure that he does it to the best of his ability and make sure that we sit down and have a relationship like Tony and I had. Hopefully it can last longer than four or five years

If he hopes to play with Cruz for more than 4 or 5 years, doesn't sound like he is making plans to leave town anytime soon.

NewChief
05-05-2006, 04:52 PM
I think LJ's reactions are just in response to the media constantly questioning whether he's going to still be motivated like he was in the past. On draft day, that was one of the first things they asked Trent: "Is LJ going to still be angry and run like that. Does he still have the motivation?" I think that this is just LJ's way of telling people to shut up about it and stop questioning him. I also think that he's always tried to have the image of having an attitude and being an "angry" runner.

That being said, I agree with Iowanian's assessment of what could likely happen if things go badly over the next couple of years.

bjake2
05-05-2006, 05:08 PM
I know the man is a stud, but why does he think he should have started right off the bat? Priest was running all over the place when we drafted LJ. What team is going to start a rookie when you have a back like Priest. Give me a break LJ, think before you speak. If you ask me, Priest in his prime is just as good as LJ in his prime. Of course people are going to ask him about Priest. He was the man in KC. So, LJ needs to quit being a baby about the whole Priest Holmes questions and answer them like a man. Like an old wise man told him before,"take off the diapers." With an attitude like LJ it wouldn't surprise me if there is contract disputes in the near future. Now that he is the starter he needs to keep his baby mouth shut and run the damn ball. I'm not so sure he that he would be that good if we had a line like the Arizona Cardinals.

FAX
05-05-2006, 05:13 PM
I know the man is a stud, but why does he think he should have started right off the bat? Priest was running all over the place when we drafted LJ. What team is going to start a rookie when you have a back like Priest. Give me a break LJ, think before you speak. If you ask me, Priest in his prime is just as good as LJ in his prime. Of course people are going to ask him about Priest. He was the man in KC. So, LJ needs to quit being a baby about the whole Priest Holmes questions and answer them like a man. Like an old wise man told him before,"take off the diapers." With an attitude like LJ it wouldn't surprise me if there is contract disputes in the near future. Now that he is the starter he needs to keep his baby mouth shut and run the damn ball. I'm not so sure he that he would be that good if we had a line like the Arizona Cardinals.

Well said, Mr. bjake2. An excellent post. Very well put. Nice take.

By the way, I couldn't help but notice that you are a N00b (sp?). How do you like being a N00b (sp?), anyway?

FAX

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 06:00 PM
I know the man is a stud, but why does he think he should have started right off the bat? Priest was running all over the place when we drafted LJ. What team is going to start a rookie when you have a back like Priest. Give me a break LJ, think before you speak. If you ask me, Priest in his prime is just as good as LJ in his prime. Of course people are going to ask him about Priest. He was the man in KC. So, LJ needs to quit being a baby about the whole Priest Holmes questions and answer them like a man. Like an old wise man told him before,"take off the diapers." With an attitude like LJ it wouldn't surprise me if there is contract disputes in the near future. Now that he is the starter he needs to keep his baby mouth shut and run the damn ball. I'm not so sure he that he would be that good if we had a line like the Arizona Cardinals.

If he came in and DIDN'T want to start, now THAT would be something to worry about.

htismaqe
05-05-2006, 06:01 PM
Regardless of any part-time work LJ had in the past Priest was always the focal point of any defensive game plan against KC. This is the first year that focus will be switched 100% to LJ.
If you don't acknowledge a difference we are at an impasse.

You're kidding yourself. He's started 11 games in his career when the other team new Priest wasn't even in the same CITY, let alone gonna be on the field...

CosmicPal
05-05-2006, 06:52 PM
So just curious, if you had LJ and LT on your team, and could keep only 1 of them for the next season, who would you choose?

Note this is NOT a rhetorical question. It is my delimna...

Well, funny you should ask because last season I did have both Larry Johnson and LT on my team. The past 9 games- Larry Johnson scored more fantasy points for me than LT.

If I get my choice in this year's draft between the two of them- I'll take Larry Johnson again. Particularly since Herm has advertised we're going back to smash mouth football.

cdcox
05-05-2006, 08:11 PM
Regardless of any part-time work LJ had in the past Priest was always the focal point of any defensive game plan against KC. This is the first year that focus will be switched 100% to LJ.
If you don't acknowledge a difference we are at an impasse.

If the opposing coordinators are stupid enough to focus on Priest in games he is not even suited to play, I guess I'm not too worried about them figuring out a way to shut down LJ any time soon.

the Talking Can
05-05-2006, 08:18 PM
LJ will destroy the league.

We'll pay him one of the largest contracts ever for a RB, or someone else will. It ain't complicated.

Immaculate
05-05-2006, 08:27 PM
I love chips!

milkman
05-05-2006, 09:41 PM
Larry Johnson does not require happiness.

Happiness is for p*ssies.

FAX

Damn!
I always thought it was the other way around!

Halfcan
05-05-2006, 10:31 PM
Shawn Alexander-"I want to break records and be the MVP again, I love the world and my fat contract."

LJ-"F##CK the records I want to win a damm SB for my teammates."

I think I like LJ's goal a little better.

Wile_E_Coyote
05-06-2006, 05:11 PM
LJ

Wile_E_Coyote
05-06-2006, 05:32 PM
postwhoring to #100

Wile_E_Coyote
05-06-2006, 05:33 PM
how do you like them apples, Skip Towne