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jAZ
05-08-2006, 04:11 PM
http://www.kabc.com/goout.asp?u=http://www.kabc.com/mcintyre/default.asp

AN APOLOGY FROM A BUSH VOTER

By Doug McIntyre

Host, McIntyre in the Morning

Talk Radio 790 KABC

Thereís nothing harder in public life than admitting youíre wrong. By the way, admitting youíre wrong can be even tougher in private life. If you donít believe me, just ask Bill Clinton or Charlie Sheen. But when you go out on the limb in public, itís out there where everyone can see it, or in my case, hear it.

So, Iím saying today, I was wrong to have voted for George W. Bush. In historic terms, I believe George W. Bush is the worst two-term President in the history of the country. Worse than Grant. I also believe a case can be made that heís the worst President, period.

In 2000, I was a McCain guy. I wasnít sure about the Texas Governor. He had name recognition and a lot of money behind him, but other than that? What? Still, I was sick of all the Clinton shenanigans and the thought of President Gore wasÖ unthinkable. So, GWB became my guy.

For the first few months he was just flubbing along like most new Presidents, no great shakes, but no disasters either. He cut taxes and I like tax cuts.

Then September 11th happened. September 11th changed everything for me, like it did for so many of you. After September 11th, all the intramural idiocy of American politics stopped being funny. We had been attacked by a vicious and determined enemy and it was time for all of us to row in the same direction.

And we did for the blink of an eye. I believed the President when he said we were going to hunt down Bin Laden and all those responsible for the 9-11 murders. I believed President Bush when he said we would go after the terrorists and the nations that harbored them.


I supported the President when he sent our troops into Afghanistan, after all, thatís where the Taliban was, thatís where al-Qaida trained the killers, thatís where Bin Laden was.

And I cheered when we quickly toppled the Taliban government, but winced when we let Bin Laden escape from Tora-Bora.

Then, the talk turned to Iraq and I winced again.

I thought the connection to 9-11 was sketchy at best. But Colin Powell impressed me at the UN, and Tony Blair was in, and after all, he was a Clinton guy, not a Bush guy, so I thought the case had to be strong. I was worried though, because I had read the Wolfowitz paper, "The Project for the New American Century." Itís been around since Ď92, and it raised alarm bells because it was based on a theory, "Democratizing the Middle East" and I prefer pragmatism over theory. I was worried because Iraq was being justified on a radical new basis, "pre-emptive war." Any time we do something without historical precedent I get nervous.

But the President shifted the argument to WMDs and the urgent threat of Iraq getting atomic weapons. The debate turned to Saddam passing nukes on to terror groups. After 9-11, the risk was too great. As the President said, "The next smoking gun might be a mushroom cloud." At least thatís what I thought at the time.

I grew up in New York and watched them build the World Trade Center. I worked with a guy, Frank OíBrien, who put the elevators in both towers. I lost a very close friend on September 11th. 103 floor, tower one, Cantor Fitzgerald. Tim Coughlin was his name. If we had to take out Iraq to make sure something like that, or worse, never happened again, so be it. I knew the consequences. We have a soldier in our house. None of this was theoretical in my house.

But in the months and years since shock and awe I have been shocked repeatedly by a consistent litany of excuses, alibis, double-talk, inaccuracies, bogus predictions, and flat out lies. I have watched as the President and his administration changed the goals, redefined the reasons for going into Iraq, and fumbled the good will of the world and the focus necessary to catch the real killers of September 11th.

I have watched the President say the commanders on the ground will make the battlefield decisions, and the war wonít be run from Washington. Yet, politics has consistently determined what the troops can and canít do on the ground and any commander who did not go along with the administration was sacked, and in some cases, maligned.

I watched and tried to justify the looting in Iraq after the fall of Saddam. I watched and tried to justify the dismantling of the entire Iraqi army. I tired to explain the complexities of building a functional new Iraqi army. I urged patience when no WMDs were found. Then the Vice President told us we were in the "waning days of the insurgency." And I started wincing again. The President says we have to stay the course but what if itís the wrong course?

It was the wrong course. All of it was wrong. We are not on the road to victory. Weíre about to slink home with our tail between our legs, leaving civil war in Iraq and a nuclear armed Iran in our wake. Bali was bombed. Madrid was bombed. London was bombed. And Bin Laden is still making tapes. Itís unspeakable. The liberal media didnít create this reality, bad policy did.

Most historians believe it takes 30-50 years before we get a reasonably accurate take on a Presidentís place in history. So, maybe 50 years from now Iraq will be a peaceful member of the brotherhood of nations and George W. Bush will be celebrated as a visionary genius.

But we donít live fifty years in the future. We live now. We have to make public policy decisions now. We have to live with the consequences of the votes we cast and the leaders we chose now.

After five years of carefully watching George W. Bush Iíve reached the conclusion heís either grossly incompetent, or a hand puppet for a gaggle of detached theorists with their own private view of how the world works. Or both.

Presidential failures. James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce, Jimmy Carter, Warren Harding-- the competition is fierce for the worst of the worst. Still, the damage this President has done is enormous. It will take decades to undo, and thatís assuming we do everything right from now on. His mistakes have global implications, while the other failed Presidents mostly authored domestic embarrassments.

And speaking of domestic embarrassments, letís talk for a minute about President Bushís domestic record. Yes, he cut taxes. But tax cuts combined with reckless spending and borrowing is criminal mismanagement of the publicís money. Weíre drunk at the mall with our great grandchildrenís credit cards. Whatever happened to the party of fiscal responsibility?

Bush created a giant new entitlement, the prescription drug plan. He lied to his own party to get it passed. He lied to the country about its true cost. It was written by and for the pharmaceutical industry. It helps nobody except the multinationals that lobbied for it. So much for smaller government. In fact, virtually every tentacle of government has grown exponentially under Bush. Unless, of course, it was an agency to look after the public interest, or environmental protection, and/or workerís rights.

Iíve talked so often about the border issue, I wonít bore you with a rehash. Itís enough to say this President has been a catastrophe for the wages of working people; heís debased the work ethic itself. "Jobs Americans wonít do!" He doesnít believe in the sovereign borders of the country heís sworn to protect and defend. And his devotion to cheap labor for his corporate benefactors, along with his worship of multinational trade deals, makes an utter mockery of homeland security in a post 9-11 world. The Presidentís January 7th, 2004 speech on immigration, his first trial balloon on his guest worker scheme, was a deal breaker for me. I couldnít and didnít vote for him in 2004. And Iím glad I didnít.

Katrina, Harriet Myers, The Dubai Port Deal, skyrocketing gas prices, shrinking wages for working people, staggering debt, astronomical foreign debt, outsourcing, open borders, contempt for the opinion of the American people, the war on science, media manipulation, faith based initives, a cavalier attitude toward fundamental freedoms-- this President has run the most arrogant and out-of-touch administration in my lifetime, perhaps, in any Americanís lifetime.

You can make a case that Abraham Lincoln did what he had to do, the public be damned. If you roll the dice on your gut and youíre right, history remembers you well. But, when your gut led you from one business failure to another, when your gut told you to trade Sammy Sosa to the Cubs, and you use the same gut to send our sons and daughters to fight and die in a distraction from the real war on terror, then history will and should be unapologetic in its condemnation.

None of this, by the way, should be interpreted as an endorsement of the opposition party. The Democrats are equally bankrupt. This is the second crime of our age. Again, historically speaking, its times like these when America needs a vibrant opposition to check the power of a run-amuck majority party. It requires it. It doesnít work without one. Like the high and low tides keep the oceans alive, a healthy, positive opposition offers a path back to the center where all healthy societies live.

Tragically, the Democrats have allowed crackpots, leftists and demagogic cowards to snipe from the sidelines while taking no responsibility for anything. In fairness, I donít believe a Democrat president would have gone into Iraq. Unfortunately, I donít know if President Gore would have gone into Afghanistan. And thatís one of the many problems with the Democrats.

The two party system has always been clumsy and imperfect, but it has only collapsed once, in the 1850s, and the result was civil war.

I believe, as I have said countless times, the two party system is on the brink of a second collapsed. Itís currently running on spin, anger, revenge, and pots and pots and pots of money.

Weíre being governed by paper-mache patriots; brightly painted red, white and blue, but hollow to the core. Both parties have mastered the cynical arts of media manipulation and fund raising. Theyíve learned the lessons of Watergate and burn the tapes. They have learned to divide the nation for their own gain. They have demonstrated the willingness to exploit any tragedy for personal advantage. The contempt they have for the American people is without parallel.

This is painful to say, and Iím sure for many of you, painful to read. But itís impossible to heal the country until weíre willing to acknowledge the truth no matter how painful. We have to wean ourselves off sugar coated partisan lies.

With a belated tip of the cap to Ralph Nader, the system is broken, so broken, itís almost inevitable it pukes up the Al Gores and George W. Bushes. Where are the Trumans and the Eisenhowers? Where are the men and women of vision and accomplishment? Why do we have to settle for recycled hacks and malleable ciphers? Greatness is always rare, but is basic competence and simple honesty too much to ask?

It may be decades before we have the full picture of how paranoid and contemptuous this administration has been. And I am open to the possibility that Iím all wet about everything Iíve just said. But Iím putting it out there, because I have to call it as I see it, and this is how I see it today. I donít say any of this lightly. Iíve thought about this for months and months. But eventually, the weight of evidence takes on a gravitational force of its own.

I believe that George W. Bush has taken us down a terrible road. I donít believe the Democrats are offering an alternative. That means weíre on our own to save this magnificent country. The United States of America is a gift to the world, but it has been badly abused and itís rightful owners, We the People, had better step up to the plate and reclaim it before the damage becomes irreparable.

So, accept my apology for allowing partisanship to blind me to an obvious truth; our President is incapable of the tasks he is charged with. I almost feel sorry for him. He is clearly in over his head. Yet, he doesnít generate the sympathy Warren Harding earned. Harding, a spectacular mediocrity, had the self-knowledge to tell any and all he shouldnít be President. George W. Bush continues to act the part, but at this point whose buying the act?

Does this make me a waffler? A flip-flopper? Maybe, although I prefer to call it realism. And, for those of you who never supported Bush, its also fair to accuse me of kicking Bush while heís down. After all, you were kicking him while he was up.

You were right, I was wrong.

Adept Havelock
05-08-2006, 06:17 PM
Now that's a right-wing apologist! :D

banyon
05-08-2006, 06:29 PM
I forgot about the Sammy Sosa trade.

Add that to the list. http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/memphis/phpbb/images/smiles/04-deal.gif

memyselfI
05-08-2006, 06:46 PM
I was worried though, because I had read the Wolfowitz paper, "The Project for the New American Century." Itís been around since Ď92, and it raised alarm bells because it was based on a theory, "Democratizing the Middle East" and I prefer pragmatism over theory. I was worried because Iraq was being justified on a radical new basis, "pre-emptive war." Any time we do something without historical precedent I get nervous.

(snip)

The President says we have to stay the course but what if itís the wrong course?

It was the wrong course. All of it was wrong. We are not on the road to victory. Weíre about to slink home with our tail between our legs, leaving civil war in Iraq and a nuclear armed Iran in our wake. Bali was bombed. Madrid was bombed. London was bombed. And Bin Laden is still making tapes. Itís unspeakable. The liberal media didnít create this reality, bad policy did.

(Snip)

this President has run the most arrogant and out-of-touch administration in my lifetime, perhaps, in any Americanís lifetime.

You were right, I was wrong.

Dang, I wish all Bushbots were this with it...

correction, I wish all Americans were this with it. The guy nailed it.

Patteeu's head is exploding...

penchief
05-08-2006, 06:46 PM
I forgot about the Sammy Sosa trade.

Add that to the list. http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/memphis/phpbb/images/smiles/04-deal.gif

This guy just summarized everything I and other critics of Cheneyburton have been saying for three years. Nicely done, mister.

Sometimes fellow patriots are forced to endure the ire of their peers simply for verbalizing forsight and expressing concern.

memyselfI
05-08-2006, 06:51 PM
This guy just summarized everything I and other critics of Cheneyburton have been saying for three years. Nicely done, mister.

Sometimes fellow patriots are forced to endure the ire of their peers simply for verbalizing their forsight and expressing their concerns.

Yep, and do you think any of those GRWNJM folks would have the integrity, grace, and dignity to admit they were wrong...

:hmmm:

WilliamTheIrish
05-08-2006, 07:06 PM
Admitting your wrong is never easy.

I wish I had not voted for him 00. But I have many other things in life that I regret more than that vote.

I'll admit that the caller expresses my views on most all other issues.

patteeu
05-08-2006, 07:34 PM
Now that's a right-wing apologist! :D

I know you're joking, but seriously, that guy is about as right wing as you are. He barely qualifies as a Bush voter.

banyon
05-08-2006, 07:36 PM
That guy is about as right wing as you are.

You are right.

Your tent is shrinking. 31% and falling.... (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-08-bush-approval_x.htm)

patteeu
05-08-2006, 07:38 PM
You are right.

Your tent is shrinking. 31% and falling.... (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-08-bush-approval_x.htm)

I've spent most of my adult life supporting small tent candidates so a little loneliness isn't going to bother me.

banyon
05-08-2006, 07:38 PM
And a fresh Bushism:

"That's George Washington, the first President, of course. The interesting thing about him is that I read three -- three or four books about him last year. Isn't that interesting?" W, May 5, 2006

Pitt Gorilla
05-08-2006, 08:26 PM
He barely qualifies as a Bush voter.Isn't the only qualification that one voted for Bush?
:hmmm:

Adept Havelock
05-08-2006, 08:42 PM
Isn't the only qualification that one voted for Bush?
:hmmm:
No, I think they have to have a blood-brother ceremony with reps of the PNAC, kiss a photo of Karl Rove and Jerry Falwell in a compromising position, and then take an oath on the Necronomnicon while swearing to never betray the family...errrr...party. Or something like that. Ask meme...she's the expert on that kind of stuff. ;)

patteeu
05-09-2006, 05:44 AM
Isn't the only qualification that one voted for Bush?
:hmmm:

That's why he qualifies.

He was a reluctant Bush voter in 2000, he didn't even make it through the first term as a luke warm bush supporter, and he didn't vote for Bush in 2004. It makes one wonder, what took so long for this apology? He's been off the bandwagon for over 2 years.

And as far as "right wing" goes, this guy isn't even in the neighborhood. Liking tax cuts because you can always use a little more money in your pocket doesn't qualify a person for the honor of the "right wing" label.

BTW, I should praise jAZ for his accurate thread title. I don't know if it was coincidence or if he consciously avoided posting something like "An Apology from Another Conservative."

Braincase
05-09-2006, 05:58 AM
I can feel what Mr. McIntyre is writing. I feel pretty much the same way.

BucEyedPea
05-09-2006, 06:07 AM
Bush WAS NEVER a right-winger.
He's a LEFT-winger following in the footsteps of our great progressive prez Woodrow Wilson. Only he uses more force....hence he's a hard Wilsonian...making the world safe for democracy while building big govt at home that strangles our freedom.

KC Jones
05-09-2006, 06:36 AM
Bush WAS NEVER a right-winger.
He's a LEFT-winger following in the footsteps of our great progressive prez Woodrow Wilson. Only he uses more force....hence he's a hard Wilsonian...making the world safe for democracy while building big govt at home that strangles our freedom.

That's the problem with attempting to use a linear plot to describe the political spectrum. It doesn't fit at all. As much as you may want to say Bush isn't right wing, he fits much better on that end than on the left.

BucEyedPea
05-09-2006, 06:45 AM
That's the problem with attempting to use a linear plot to describe the political spectrum. It doesn't fit at all. As much as you may want to say Bush isn't right wing, he fits much better on that end than on the left.

Well, I actually do believe in the linear spectrum...it's just that it gets misused.
The one I speak from is no govt at all on the absolute right and total govt on the left. It's just that when there is no govt, anarchy, something fills the void which is usually the biggest bully who uses force. So it only appears, that fascism is on the right. ( facism is rightfully on the left) So actually the spectrum is more like horseshoe.

I have more problems with the quadrant, chart used by libertarians as I don't consider economics to be rightfully included in govt's role. I mean really they have anarchy on both the left and the right? wtf?

You could probably use a variety of visual representations so long as the definitions held. ( which are also widely misunderstood today).

As far as the quadrant chart...I mean wtf? How does one talk?
I am up, up left? Or down right? Or down, down, down right? ROFL

Would a moderate say: I am up,down,up,down, up down left or up, down,up down, up down right? Lol!

patteeu
05-09-2006, 06:51 AM
Bush WAS NEVER a right-winger.

I agree with that. I wouldn't go so far as to call him a left-winger, but he's never been a real conservative. I'd call him a big government moderate who panders both ways but panders further to the right than to the left. In other words, he panders to people on the right who are further from the center (tax cuts on investment income, SS privatization, judicial appointments) than the those on the left to whom he also panders (prescription drugs, nclb).

BucEyedPea
05-09-2006, 06:56 AM
That's legitimate patteeu for how things stand today.

However, I believe if one totaled it all up, he'd still be left of center as that is where today's center stands after years of drifting leftwards. So it's relative as to where one feels the center is.

BTW, just to clarify how I use these terms. When one is talking to me I am using the total absence of govt on the right as right-wing. Most are not thinking like that when I use such terms but t'is what I mean.

patteeu
05-09-2006, 07:00 AM
That's legitimate patteeu for how things stand today.

However, I believe if one totaled it all up, he'd still be left of center as that is where today's center stands after years of drifting leftwards. So it's relative as to where one feels the center is.

Given your stated right-left spectrum being defined by no government versus total government, I agree. He's definitely left of center on that scale and, unfortunately, so is the American mainstream. :thumb:

BucEyedPea
05-09-2006, 07:02 AM
... so is the American mainstream. :thumb:


Absolutely correct!

Thanks to the pummeling by the media who frames the issues and our educational system.

jAZ
05-09-2006, 09:35 AM
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Scarborough-Country-GOP-collapse-5-5-06.wmv

Baby Lee
05-09-2006, 09:52 AM
Would a moderate say: I am up,down,up,down, up down left or up, down,up down, up down right? Lol!
I hear if you input George Bush's quadrant plot in Gran Turismo III, it puts machine guns on your racecar!!!

NewChief
05-09-2006, 09:53 AM
I hear if you input George Bush's quadrant plot in Gran Turismo III, it puts machine guns on your racecar!!!

You also get to go to the special fishing level, where you have an opportunity to catch 7lb perch.

Taco John
05-09-2006, 12:22 PM
I hear if you input George Bush's quadrant plot in Gran Turismo III, it puts machine guns on your racecar!!!


Don't forget about the code for the "Mission Accomplished" banner to appear at the first checkpoint of the first lap...

irishjayhawk
05-09-2006, 03:17 PM
Don't forget about the code for the "Mission Accomplished" banner to appear at the first checkpoint of the first lap...
ROFL

Ugly Duck
05-09-2006, 11:38 PM
After five years of carefully watching George W. Bush Iíve reached the conclusion heís either grossly incompetent, or a hand puppet for a gaggle of detached theorists with their own private view of how the world works. Or both.

So, accept my apology for allowing partisanship to blind me to an obvious truth; our President is incapable of the tasks he is charged with. I almost feel sorry for him. He is clearly in over his head.

You were right, I was wrong.

Wow. I am humbled. Kudos to those brave enough to admit when they are wrong. Only 31% more to go......

Lurch
07-05-2006, 01:03 PM
Unbelievable.