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memyselfI
05-11-2006, 07:28 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12729893/

WASHINGTON - Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight from President Bush and the Republican Congress at a rapid pace in recent weeks, sending Bush's approval ratings to record lows and presenting a new threat to the GOP's 12-year reign on Capitol Hill, according to White House officials, lawmakers and new polling data.

Bush and Congress have suffered a decline in support from almost every part of the conservative coalition over the past year, a trend that has accelerated with alarming implications for Bush's governing strategy.


Well, it looks like the GRWNJM we have seen on this board is happening en masse within the general RWNJ public. Guess the MIA guys from this board might have been trendsetters and not just spineless weinees who lost their link (and stones) to come here and defend their King. Nope, they are amongst a growing number of folks who say 'DUHbya who?, why he's not one of US.'

ROFL ROFL ROFLhttp://www.weforanimals.com/free-pictures/wild-animals/sheeps/1/Herd%20of%20sheep%20-pd.jpg

stevieray
05-11-2006, 08:27 AM
as opposed to waking up and feeding your hate before your kids are even in school, and thrn gloating like it's some sort of personal victory?

Maybe it's just indicative of how many people in this country have nothing better to do with their lives than hoping and waiting for any form of perceived failure so they don't have to face their own inequities.

Baby Lee
05-11-2006, 09:11 AM
1. You've made it clear that discourse with those you disagree with is nothing more than a search for signs of angst that you can flip you bean to.
2. Bush has been elected in the last race he'll ever run, and the next Chief Exec will be a departure, whether it's Guiliani, McCain, Allen, Biden or Richardson.

What's productive left to talk about?

jAZ
05-11-2006, 09:24 AM
as opposed to waking up and feeding your hate before your kids are even in school, and thrn gloating like it's some sort of personal victory?

Maybe it's just indicative of how many people in this country have nothing better to do with their lives than hoping and waiting for any form of perceived failure so they don't have to face their own inequities.
Wow, you are desperate aren't you.

jAZ
05-11-2006, 09:27 AM
1. You've made it clear that discourse with those you disagree with is nothing more than a search for signs of angst that you can flip you bean to.
2. Bush has been elected in the last race he'll ever run, and the next Chief Exec will be a departure, whether it's Guiliani, McCain, Allen, Biden or Richardson.

What's productive left to talk about?
Is admitting you were wrong really that hard? It's not like the President really is The King, he's just acting like it because Congress hasn't bothered to do anything to applaud his breaking their laws. Of course, there's nothing to talk about in an election year filled with such potential to shame our course of history. Naw...

stevieray
05-11-2006, 09:29 AM
Wow, you are desperate aren't you.

ROFL

coming from the guy who has wasted five years of his life conplaining about Bush on football message board.

jAZ
05-11-2006, 09:37 AM
ROFL

coming from the guy who has wasted five years of his life conplaining about Bush on football message board.
As opposed to a guy who's wasted the last five years of his life reading about criticisms of Bush and then attacking his critics?

As a long time planeteer, you should know that there is no moral high ground for any of us when it comes to time spent on the planet.

If you want to compare the size of our offline accomplishments in the last 5 years have at it, but my life has been pretty amazingly full, so I suspect you are going to fail at trying to prove your superiority in this way too. Just FYI.

jAZ
05-11-2006, 09:39 AM
ROFL

coming from (hate) the guy who (hate) has wasted five years of (hate) his life conplaining about (hate) Bush on football (hate) message board.
BTW, you forget to toss your requisite "hate" in there. I tried to fix that, but you might prefer another arrangement.

stevieray
05-11-2006, 09:49 AM
As opposed to a guy who's wasted the last five years of his life reading about criticisms of Bush and then attacking his critics?

As a long time planeteer, you should know that there is no moral high ground for any of us when it comes to time spent on the planet.

If you want to compare the size of our offline accomplishments in the last 5 years have at it, but my life has been pretty amazingly full, so I suspect you are going to fail at trying to prove your superiority in this way too. Just FYI.

ROFL

you've attacked Bush for five years, but want to whine about being attacked...? that's classic jaz.

jAZ
05-11-2006, 10:02 AM
ROFL

you've attacked Bush for five years, but want to whine about being attacked...? that's classic jaz.
It's helpful to obfuscate posting criticisms supported for the most part with cited sources with telling people they are filled with hate.

Sully
05-11-2006, 10:10 AM
Use of the term "victim card" in 5...4...3...2...

stevieray
05-11-2006, 10:11 AM
It's helpful to obfuscate posting criticisms supported for the most part with cited sources with telling people they are filled with hate.

where did I say that?

stevieray
05-11-2006, 10:13 AM
Use of the term "victim card" in 5...4...3...2...

Sully, stick to judging Christians for judging Christians.

Sully
05-11-2006, 10:14 AM
Sully, stick to judging Christians for judging Christians.

Screwed up your style didn't I?
ROFL

stevieray
05-11-2006, 10:16 AM
Screwed up your style didn't I?
ROFL

no, you're boring.

Baby Lee
05-11-2006, 10:23 AM
Is admitting you were wrong really that hard?
About?

Sully
05-11-2006, 10:25 AM
no, you're boring.

Yopu are right. I should find one demeaning term and stick to it at every chance.
Lesson learned. ROFL

Iowanian
05-11-2006, 12:21 PM
in the last 5 years have at it, but my life has been pretty amazingly full,. Just FYI.

Sounds like you should send your president a thank you card, for making such an environment for your success.


Dense....one only needs to see a certain amount of our tripe to know what its going to be. All areas of reasonable discourse with your ilk were long ago exhausted.

You'd better go fetch another gallon of peanut butter....you're clipping the St Bernard's toes today and you know how he likes to eat dead skunk.

Cochise
05-11-2006, 12:24 PM
Dense....one only needs to see a certain amount of our tripe to know what its going to be. All areas of reasonable discourse with your ilk were long ago exhausted.

It only helps their staple tactic of "If you don't want to waste your time arguing with me ad infinitum, you must be admitting that I am right".

oldandslow
05-11-2006, 12:36 PM
Ringleader is the only one that truly bothers me...I bet him a six pack over a year ago that Karl Rove would be indicted...he agreed and now..."poof"...

'course I haven't won the bet yet either....but it is getting closer!!!!

memyselfI
05-11-2006, 12:47 PM
Ringleader is the only one that truly bothers me...I bet him a six pack over a year ago that Karl Rove would be indicted...he agreed and now..."poof"...

'course I haven't won the bet yet either....but it is getting closer!!!!

LOL, and whatever happened Michael 'I have sources at Faux News' Michigan?

At least they were leaders, true visionaries, in their flight from DUHbya...and here. ROFL

Cochise
05-11-2006, 12:50 PM
Ringleader is the only one that truly bothers me...I bet him a six pack over a year ago that Karl Rove would be indicted...he agreed and now..."poof"...

'course I haven't won the bet yet either....but it is getting closer!!!!

I haven't seen him anywhere on the board in months. But of course, doing something else with your life is tantamount to the white flag according to the lib contingent.

I can't blame someone for leaving the planet, for one thing it's extremely stale, and for another, spending yout time anywhere else is probably a good thing.

memyselfI
05-11-2006, 12:51 PM
I haven't seen him anywhere on the board in months. But of course, doing something else with your life is tantamount to the white flag according to the lib contingent.

I can't blame someone for leaving the planet, for one thing it's extremely stale, and for another, spending yout time anywhere else is probably a good thing.

And CP WASN'T 'stale' and a good thing to spend time elsewhere when DUHbya was at 75% or even 50% approval? :hmmm:

Cochise
05-11-2006, 12:53 PM
LOL, and whatever happened Michael 'I have sources at Faux News' Michigan?

At least they were leaders, true visionaries, in their flight from DUHbya...and here. ROFL

You know Dense, you should get a lifetime achievement award for your performances in this place. You are the Oppenheimer of the argument from silence.

Radar Chief
05-11-2006, 01:01 PM
Wow Denise, for someone that’ll disappear for, sometimes, weeks on end you sure are concerned ‘bout the post’n habits of others.

memyselfI
05-11-2006, 01:11 PM
Wow Denise, for someone that’ll disappear for, sometimes, weeks on end you sure are concerned ‘bout the post’n habits of others.

You know, even in lean times I've posted here except for when on vacation or uninterested in the discussions going on. Even then I'll post in a thread if so inclined.

For better or worse, you would be hard pressed to find a consistent number of 'weeks on end' where I don't show up.

Now that I've indulged your deflection from the topic...

how about that 'base' of DUHbya's bolting from him? And what about the numbers of people polled stating they would like to see a Dem controlled Congress?

Cochise
05-11-2006, 01:26 PM
how about that 'base' of DUHbya's bolting from him? And what about the numbers of people polled stating they would like to see a Dem controlled Congress?

I'm not worried. You always have a superabundance of polls showing your opinion as the popular one, except on election day.

Radar Chief
05-11-2006, 01:28 PM
You know, even in lean times I've posted here except for when on vacation or uninterested in the discussions going on. Even then I'll post in a thread if so inclined.

For better or worse, you would be hard pressed to find a consistent number of 'weeks on end' where I don't show up.

Your allowed, I’m simpley point’n out the hypocrisy of you gripe’n ‘bout when others post.

Now that I've indulged your deflection from the topic...

My deflection? Now why would you word your topic like this, “Great Right Wing Nutjob Migration (GRWNJM)” if you’re so concerned with “deflection”? Seems like a deflection from the subject you posted right from the git go. What, no one else is allowed to play your petty game? :shrug:

how about that 'base' of DUHbya's bolting from him?

Political expedience. His poll numbers are low, I’d expect anyone seek’n reelection to distance themselves. I think Pat even posted a similar comment, how is this supposed to be surprising? And didn’t a similar thing happen to Clinton? Even Reagan?

And what about the numbers of people polled stating they would like to see a Dem controlled Congress?

I’d be one of’em. Maybe not “dem controlled” but it wouldn’t bother me to see control taken from republicans. It’s quite obvious to me teh Debil hasn’t met a spend’n bill he hasn’t liked, and it’s equally obvious that isn’t gonna change with a repubs in control.
That answer your questions? ;)

Dave Lane
05-11-2006, 01:52 PM
ROFL

coming from the guy who has wasted five years of his life conplaining about Bush on football message board.


Or a guy defending him for 5 years...

Dave

Brock
05-11-2006, 03:15 PM
LOL, and whatever happened Michael 'I have sources at Faux News' Michigan?

At least they were leaders, true visionaries, in their flight from DUHbya...and here. ROFL

Michigan has a full time job. You ought to look into one of those yourself, as soon as you figure out what marketable skills you possess.

Iowanian
05-11-2006, 03:30 PM
Someone disappears from the board during the offseason....and Dunce is claming victory.

its also possible, like others...he's busy with a life and a real job.

You can't fix that kind of stupid.

go bowe
05-11-2006, 03:37 PM
fix it?

why, that would take all the fun out of duhneese's posts...

Radar Chief
05-11-2006, 03:43 PM
Someone disappears from the board during the offseason....and Dunce is claming victory.

its also possible, like others...he's busy with a life and a real job.

You can't fix that kind of stupid.

Heh, I was watch’n Ron White last night. That dude kills me. ROFL

Cochise
05-11-2006, 03:54 PM
Michigan has a full time job. You ought to look into one of those yourself, as soon as you figure out what marketable skills you possess.

ROFL

stevieray
05-11-2006, 03:55 PM
Or a guy defending him for 5 years...

Dave

I don't have to defend Bush. The burden of proof is on his detractors.

so far, their batting average is zero.

Iowanian
05-11-2006, 04:01 PM
Back off Brock....Dunce works part time at a vet clinic.

Dog grooming is actually a pretty useful life skill for her, as it probably helps her deal with the saskwatch she's got in a permanent leg lock.

Logical
05-11-2006, 04:04 PM
1. You've made it clear that discourse with those you disagree with is nothing more than a search for signs of angst that you can flip you bean to.
2. Bush has been elected in the last race he'll ever run, and the next Chief Exec will be a departure, whether it's Guiliani, McCain, Allen, Biden or Richardson.

What's productive left to talk about?


So what you are saying is conservatives only like to have discourse when they can

1. Gloat
2. Criticize the Liberals

If they cannot do that, it is not worth having a discussion? Is that really what you meant? I know I have never felt that way, whether my viewpoints are in the majority or the minority I have always been willing to come here and discuss and defend those views. I think it is sad if other conservatives don't have the courage of their convictions to do the same. patteeu, mlyons, Rader Chief, Cochise certainly do and I seem to recall you did in the past. What has changed?

memyselfI
05-11-2006, 04:21 PM
So what you are saying is conservatives only like to have discourse when they can

1. Gloat
2. Criticize the Liberals

If they cannot do that, it is not worth having a discussion? Is that really what you meant? I know I have never felt that way, whether my viewpoints are in the majority or the minority I have always been willing to come here and discuss and defend those views. I think it is sad if other conservatives don't have the courage of their convictions to do the same. patteeu, mlyons, Rader Chief, Cochise certainly do and I seem to recall you did in the past. What has changed?

Actually, some of the migrants WILL return to bash a poster but mysteriously do not utter a WORD about their DUH boy or their former die hard support of him.

Logical
05-11-2006, 04:22 PM
It only helps their staple tactic of "If you don't want to waste your time arguing with me ad infinitum, you must be admitting that I am right".
You know if you occassionally change your views and admit you are wrong, it makes it clear that if you are not discussing something it does not mean you have changed your views. However, if you never admit you were wrong and quit discussing something it make it appear you are hiding.

Granted it is only an appearence, but it does allow the perception. Is suffering that perception worth it is what you must ask yourself, is it worth it to avoid the topic. Complaining about the pereception, however seems illogical. You want to disappear when you are bored with a topic, fine, but be ready to accept the consequences and ignore them instead of complaining. JMNSHO

irishjayhawk
05-11-2006, 04:26 PM
I don't have to defend Bush. The burden of proof is on his detractors.

so far, their batting average is zero.


ROFL :rolleyes: :CE emoticon:

Iowanian
05-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Actually, some of the migrants WILL return to bash a poster but mysteriously do not utter a WORD about their DUH boy or their former die hard support of him.

You can only see the string on a See N Say pulled soooo many times and hear the same "moooooooooo" before its useless to carry a conversation.

you and jaz are BOTH hate see'n'says.

The pig says "oink oink oink"
The bushhater says "blahblahblahblah"

Logical
05-11-2006, 04:31 PM
I don't have to defend Bush. The burden of proof is on his detractors.

so far, their batting average is zero.

Why would that be? Debate puts the burden of defending your view whether you are supporting or attacking on each side. Neither side can win if they cannot support their viewpoint. I do respect patteeu (though I am appalled at the lengths he will go to) in his defense of all things Bush, his strength of conviction is worthy of that respect, even if I find it puzzling.

irishjayhawk
05-11-2006, 04:34 PM
Why would that be? Debate puts the burden of defending your view whether you are supporting or attacking on each side. Neither side can win if they cannot support their viewpoint. I do respect patteeu (though I am appalled at the lengths he will go to) in his defense of all things Bush, his strength of conviction is worthy of that respect, even if I find it puzzling.
Well said; I concur.

Baby Lee
05-11-2006, 04:40 PM
So what you are saying is conservatives only like to have discourse when they can

1. Gloat
2. Criticize the Liberals

If they cannot do that, it is not worth having a discussion? Is that really what you meant? I know I have never felt that way, whether my viewpoints are in the majority or the minority I have always been willing to come here and discuss and defend those views. I think it is sad if other conservatives don't have the courage of their convictions to do the same. patteeu, mlyons, Rader Chief, Cochise certainly do and I seem to recall you did in the past. What has changed?
Perhaps completely and totally what I am NOT saying.
Be honest, when have I ever gloated about anything political?
Continue to be honest, when have I criticized someone for being liberal?
I criticize views, not 'teams.'
I think I have a pretty good track record.
If someone is advocating socialism, I remark that their view is a socialist view, not that they are 'stinkin' commies.'
If someone has racism or bigotry in their views, I remark on the view, not the person.

Generally, I get involved when the issues are being analyzed in a way that I think is structurally deficient, or on the basis of misapprehended facts, or in a way that doesn't take in the totality of the issue.

Not a lot that can be constructively done in another endless 'x repub has a gay daughter, hee!!' or 'x dem got drunk and showed his ass, hee!!" thread.

Not a lot that can be constructively done re-re-re-re-hashing the devlopments that led to our actions in the WoT.

And like I said, Bush has faced the last race he'll run. People's opinions, good and bad, have been made. At some point, when the same issues get hashed and rehashed and re-re-hashed, 'defending your views' descends into either banging your head against the wall, or pulling your pud.

Case in point, a certain poster I've had contentious correspondence with on here, repeated AND expanded the Bush/McCain primary thing, this time terming it "Bush told everyone McCain fathers black babies." Yeah, let's have another go around on that one.

go bowe
05-11-2006, 04:46 PM
Why would that be? Debate puts the burden of defending your view whether you are supporting or attacking on each side. Neither side can win if they cannot support their viewpoint. I do respect patteeu (though I am appalled at the lengths he will go to) in his defense of all things Bush, his strength of conviction is worthy of that respect, even if I find it puzzling.i'm not sure anybody "wins" in the debates held on this board...

some views are more persuasive if supported by credible links and/or established fact, to be sure...

but i have found your views on certain subjects to be quite persuasive just by force of argument and clarity of thought (something i seem to be lacking these days)...

i often find discussions here in the forum to be useful as well as interesting, but actual debating is too much like work for me... :p :p :p

Baby Lee
05-11-2006, 04:49 PM
i'm not sure anybody "wins" in the debates held on this board...

some views are more persuasive if supported by credible links and/or established fact, to be sure...

but i have found your views on certain subjects to be quite persuasive just by force of argument and clarity of thought (something i seem to be lacking these days)...

i often find discussions here in the forum to be useful as well as interesting, but actual debating is too much like work for me... :p :p :p
Hate to tell you, you're no RW-er, but your even-handedness has given you RW-cooties. That's what makes debating such a strain for you, and muddles your thought processes. :p

go bowe
05-11-2006, 04:50 PM
. . .contentious correspondence. . .oh no, say it ain't so...

besides, contentious correspondence provides great entertainment value...

go bowe
05-11-2006, 04:51 PM
Hate to tell you, you're no RW-er, but your even-handedness has given you RW-cooties. That's what makes debating such a strain for you, and muddles your thought processes. :pi think you may be on to something there...

Baby Lee
05-11-2006, 04:53 PM
i think you may be on to something there...
That or it's Bush induced PAoMCSD - Post Allegations of Mushroom Clouds Stress Disorder.

go bowe
05-11-2006, 05:00 PM
That or it's Bush induced PAoMCSD - Post Allegations of Mushroom Clouds Stress Disorder.ROFL ROFL ROFL LMAO LMAO LMAO...

Ugly Duck
05-11-2006, 06:55 PM
There's still a few diehards left. Bushron's latest poll still has him a good 3 points above Nixon at the height of the Watergate scandal just before he resigned. There's a couple of folks that will refuse to admit they were wrong no matter what. At least the neocons won't be able to just plug in some other empty suit in 2008. The Reign of the Neocon is over.

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/0/c/bush_sheep.jpg

Logical
05-11-2006, 07:08 PM
Perhaps completely and totally what I am NOT saying.
Be honest, when have I ever gloated about anything political?
Continue to be honest, when have I criticized someone for being liberal?
I criticize views, not 'teams.'
I think I have a pretty good track record.
If someone is advocating socialism, I remark that their view is a socialist view, not that they are 'stinkin' commies.'
If someone has racism or bigotry in their views, I remark on the view, not the person.

Generally, I get involved when the issues are being analyzed in a way that I think is structurally deficient, or on the basis of misapprehended facts, or in a way that doesn't take in the totality of the issue.

Not a lot that can be constructively done in another endless 'x repub has a gay daughter, hee!!' or 'x dem got drunk and showed his ass, hee!!" thread.

Not a lot that can be constructively done re-re-re-re-hashing the devlopments that led to our actions in the WoT.

And like I said, Bush has faced the last race he'll run. People's opinions, good and bad, have been made. At some point, when the same issues get hashed and rehashed and re-re-hashed, 'defending your views' descends into either banging your head against the wall, or pulling your pud.

Case in point, a certain poster I've had contentious correspondence with on here, repeated AND expanded the Bush/McCain primary thing, this time terming it "Bush told everyone McCain fathers black babies." Yeah, let's have another go around on that one.

Baby Lee,

I have tremendous respect for you as a poster and I think that pretty much everything you said in this post quoted you firmly believe in. However, as I said to Cochise, if you decide to quit, you should not be suprised when the other side perceives it as you are hiding out, it would be less likely if you are a person who occassionally changes your views on something and lets it be known. If not then what I don't get is why be offended when they accuse you of hiding. In essence that is definitely the appearance, whether or not your justifications are perfectly logical in avoiding as you put it "banging your head against the wall".

Especially so when many of the posters who have quit the discussion were perfectly willing to bang their heads against a wall when Bush had a 90% approval rating. This is why I am more than willing to bang my head against the wall whether my position is the unpopular or popular one at any given time.

Logical
05-11-2006, 07:12 PM
i'm not sure anybody "wins" in the debates held on this board...

some views are more persuasive if supported by credible links and/or established fact, to be sure...

but i have found your views on certain subjects to be quite persuasive just by force of argument and clarity of thought (something i seem to be lacking these days)...

i often find discussions here in the forum to be useful as well as interesting, but actual debating is too much like work for me... :p :p :p

I will be the first to admit that jAZ/UD/penchief/others won me over on Iraq. I changed my position and it was based on the strength of the data and opinion they presented. So yes occasionally someone wins on this BB.

Ugly Duck
05-11-2006, 08:56 PM
I will be the first to admit that jAZ/UD/penchief/others won me over on Iraq. I changed my position and it was based on the strength of the data and opinion they presented. My conceited elitist pedantic obnoxious opinion is that many more have been won over as well - maybe more by the reality before them than by we Planet zealots. The silent won-overs just don't have enough testosterone coursing through their veins to admit it.

Baby Lee
05-11-2006, 10:25 PM
Baby Lee,

I have tremendous respect for you as a poster and I think that pretty much everything you said in this post quoted you firmly believe in. However, as I said to Cochise, if you decide to quit, you should not be suprised when the other side perceives it as you are hiding out, it would be less likely if you are a person who occassionally changes your views on something and lets it be known. If not then what I don't get is why be offended when they accuse you of hiding. In essence that is definitely the appearance, whether or not your justifications are perfectly logical in avoiding as you put it "banging your head against the wall".

Especially so when many of the posters who have quit the discussion were perfectly willing to bang their heads against a wall when Bush had a 90% approval rating. This is why I am more than willing to bang my head against the wall whether my position is the unpopular or popular one at any given time.
I think if you look at the record, you'll find that when novel issues arise, I'm right here. I'm not hiding out.

But it's draining when you counter false propaganda as fact [take, just as the most accessible fer'nstance "Bush personally ambushed McCain by sending minions to spread rumors of fathering black babies'], then the zombie awakes a day, a week, a month later, like the correction never occurred.

[Hey, is BL around? No? Get a load of this. . . President Bush accused McCain of ****ing his SLAVE!!!! Thereby fathering a mulatto bastard he keeps in the basement!!!! Ahh swear mahn!!! That was step one in the Neocon coup d'etat]

Another that comes to mind is the old tripe about Clinton. People who come on on occasion and say "Clinton never did anything wrong. He never lied. Think about it, if there was evidence he lied, they'd have impeached him and indicted him for perjury. Did they? No!!!! I rest my case."

Sure I was more active when the possibility that people would BUY the shorthand about Bush being the dry drunk, N***er hatin', oil lovin,' poor people pissin' on, mongoloid, chimpy, monkey, evil genious, autistic, drooling, mastermindin,' petroleum bathin' in, gay, gay-hatin', Son of Satan the Bone Society, Illuminati and BFEE raised him to be. Now it doesn't matter. Like I said at the outset, the next prez isn't gonna be Jeb, it's not gonna be Cheney.

At this point, what you term as hiding, just on the issue of Bush, is me sitting in the stands after the game, taking snapshots of the scoreboard.

Bring up something new, and I'll grace y'all with my insight, as always.*

* - [Totally TIC there at the end, hope you know I have more humility than to ever post that in a serious manner].

Mohammed
05-11-2006, 10:55 PM
ROFL ROFL ROFL



Get off of the internet and get back into the kitchen. Also, for the sake of all that is holy, veil yourself.

Radar Chief
05-12-2006, 08:14 AM
However, as I said to Cochise, if you decide to quit, you should not be suprised when the other side perceives it as you are hiding out, it would be less likely if you are a person who occassionally changes your views on something and lets it be known. If not then what I don't get is why be offended when they accuse you of hiding. In essence that is definitely the appearance, whether or not your justifications are perfectly logical in avoiding as you put it "banging your head against the wall".

Thing is, though Vlad, that the exact same accusation could be made of the ones try’n to claim victory. I could look through my past posts and find examples of each and everyone of those chant’n “GRWNJM” “hiding” from me. Yet I don’t go ‘round try’n to make something of it, why is that? Could it be that I try not to make assumptions of others? That I’d rather question and find out for myself? :shrug:
Couldn’t be cause of class, cause I have none. ;)

Dave Lane
05-12-2006, 02:36 PM
I don't have to defend Bush. The burden of proof is on his detractors.

so far, their batting average is zero.

That right there might be the funniest comment ever made... ROFL ROFL


Dave

BucEyedPea
05-12-2006, 03:00 PM
Get off of the internet and get back into the kitchen. Also, for the sake of all that is holy, veil yourself.


How 'bout a pork chop! :D