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chagrin
05-25-2006, 06:42 AM
!Sorry if a repost!!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/25/military.funerals.ap/index.html


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Demonstrators would be barred from disrupting military funerals at national cemeteries under legislation approved by Congress and sent to the White House.

The measure, passed by voice vote in the House Wednesday hours after the Senate passed an amended version, specifically targets a Kansas church group that has staged protests at military funerals around the country, claiming that the deaths were a sign of God's anger at U.S. tolerance of homosexuals.

The act "will protect the sanctity of all 122 of our national cemeteries as shrines to their gallant dead," Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, said prior to the Senate vote.

"It's a sad but necessary measure to protect what should be recognized by all reasonable people as a solemn, private and deeply sacred occasion," he said.

Under the Senate bill, approved without objection by the House with no recorded vote, the "Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act" would bar protests within 300 feet of the entrance of a cemetery and within 150 feet of a road into the cemetery from 60 minutes before to 60 minutes after a funeral. Those violating the act would face up to a $100,000 fine and up to a year in prison.

The sponsor of the House bill, Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, said he took up the issue after attending a military funeral in his home state, where mourners were greeted by "chants and taunting and some of the most vile things I have ever heard."

"Families deserve the time to bury their American heroes with dignity and in peace," Rogers said Wednesday before the House vote.

The demonstrators are led by the Rev. Fred Phelps of Topeka, Kansas, who has previously organized protests against those who died of AIDS and gay murder victim Matthew Shepard.

In an interview when the House bill passed, Phelps said Congress was "blatantly violating the First Amendment" rights to free speech in passing the bill. He said that if the bill becomes law he will continue to demonstrate but would abide by the restrictions.

Sen. Pat Roberts, a Republican from Kansas, said the loved ones of those who die have already sacrificed for the nation and "we must allow them the right to mourn without being thrust into a political circus."

In response to the demonstrations, the Patriot Guard Riders, a motorcycle group including many veterans, has begun appearing at military funerals to pay respects to the fallen service member and protect the family from disruptions.

More than a dozen states are considering similar laws to restrict protests at nonfederal cemeteries. The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against a new Kentucky law, saying it goes too far in limiting freedom of speech and expression.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

chagrin
05-25-2006, 06:44 AM
The part that bothers me the most, other than people protest funerals, for pete's sake, is this:

"The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against a new Kentucky law, saying it goes too far in limiting freedom of speech and expression."

There's freedom of speech and there's this garbage

JBucc
05-25-2006, 06:45 AM
About time

teedubya
05-25-2006, 06:45 AM
Sweet another Ty Law thread.

Jesus
05-25-2006, 07:09 AM
The part that bothers me the most, other than people protest funerals, for pete's sake, is this:

"The American Civil Liberties Union has filed a lawsuit against a new Kentucky law, saying it goes too far in limiting freedom of speech and expression."

There's freedom of speech and there's this garbage

Five words:

Time, manner, and place restrictions.

Skip Towne
05-25-2006, 07:16 AM
Oklahoma passed a similar law several months ago.

jspchief
05-25-2006, 07:17 AM
Oklahoma passed a similar law several months ago.So did Iowa.

Bootlegged
05-25-2006, 07:18 AM
Good. Someone should chainsaw those morons.

Rooster
05-25-2006, 07:22 AM
I'm glad something has been done to ward off these wack jobs. I am just really surprised that some family memebers of the fallen haven't went postal at one of these things and really hurt someone. I'm not sure I could resist the temptation of cracking some of their protesting skulls if I lost a loved one.

The whole thing really makes me sick to think about. :mad:

chiefqueen
05-25-2006, 07:26 AM
Phelps vs. ACLU

Hard to pick between the lessor of two evils between those two.

Duck Dog
05-25-2006, 07:35 AM
I thinks it's time the Felch clan got their well deserved beat down.

morphius
05-25-2006, 07:35 AM
Five words:

Time, manner, and place restrictions.
Actually it is a place restriction only, as there is nothing keeping them from protesting at that time, in the manner they want at any other location.

KCTitus
05-25-2006, 07:46 AM
I read the title of this thread and thought: ''Dang. Another Ty Law thread?!"

Jesus
05-25-2006, 07:52 AM
Actually it is a place restriction only, as there is nothing keeping them from protesting at that time, in the manner they want at any other location.

I know. In legalese, they lump them all together in a category called "time, manner, and place restrictions" though.

Brock
05-25-2006, 07:53 AM
It appears to me that they can still protest at the mortuary.

morphius
05-25-2006, 07:57 AM
I know. In legalese, they lump them all together in a category called "time, manner, and place restrictions" though.
Ahhhh, okay.

rad
05-25-2006, 08:04 AM
I read the title of this thread and thought: ''Dang. Another Ty Law thread?!"

.....and then promptly clicked on it.

KCTitus
05-25-2006, 08:08 AM
.....and then promptly clicked on it.

...to post what I thought was a funny joke.



Joke------------------->









(Rad's head)

morphius
05-25-2006, 08:14 AM
Joke------------------->









Not funny and almost 10 posts late

Fixed :D

KCTitus
05-25-2006, 08:25 AM
Fixed :D

Ack...that's what I get for not reading the thread. Then again, I'd have to actually be interested in the topic to do that...umm...Im just sayin.