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Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 09:47 PM
Of the four Clayton is mentioning as "the Chiefs in the running" who do you think the Chiefs are most likely to sign/acquire??? (NOTE: You may select more than one of those players) :hmmm:

I'm gonna with: we sign Ty Law, and trade for Lelie. And Turley, almost sounds like a done deal....although it's sounded that way for a week. :hmmm:

JBucc
06-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Why do we want Turley?

Moooo
06-03-2006, 09:49 PM
Why do we want Turley?

Worth a good shot. He's taken a year off to nurse his injuries, and right now he may just be some sort of monster blocking TE, he might be able to get back up to Tackle size.

I really don't see us getting Ty Law. I see Herm patching something together, like he said he could. I forsee us getting Lelie, though.

Moooo

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 09:49 PM
Worth a good shot. He's taken a year off to nurse his injuries, and right now he may just be some sort of monster blocking TE, he might be able to get back up to Tackle size.

Moooo

Minimum salary. Backup for TE; possible depth on the OL, IF he regains the weight. :hmmm:

JBucc
06-03-2006, 09:50 PM
All of them!

milkman
06-03-2006, 09:51 PM
Do you honestly believe that the Chiefs and Donkeys will deal with each other?

noa
06-03-2006, 09:52 PM
No way we get Lelie.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 09:53 PM
Do you honestly beieve that the Chiefs and Donkeys will deal with each other?

Maybe. For a second round pick. I'd take a chance on Lelie for a second....

Of course, I'd start negotiations at a forth rounder....and only work my way up to a second rounder. My personal opinion: Lelie is worth a second round trade. :hmmm:

milkman
06-03-2006, 09:57 PM
Maybe. For a second round pick. I'd take a chance on Lelie for a second....

Of course, I'd start negotiations at a forth rounder....and only work my way up to a second rounder. My personal opinion: Lelie is worth a second round trade. :hmmm:

First, no way in hell I'd give up a second rounder for Leilie.

Second, no way in hell the Chiefs and Donkeys deal with each other.

Mecca
06-03-2006, 10:01 PM
Why do we want Turley?

Bill Kuharic drafted him in New Orleans.....

KCChiefsFan88
06-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Since Turley would be the worst option it will probably be Turley

rad
06-03-2006, 10:05 PM
First, no way in hell I'd give up a second rounder for Leilie.

Second, no way in hell the Chiefs and Donkeys deal with each other.


I would personally rather bleed to death than have the Chiefs give up a jockstrap for a Band Aid...

milkman
06-03-2006, 10:05 PM
JBucc must think that Gaz thinks we'll sign/trade for all of them, cause he voted for all of them, plus the Gaz option.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:06 PM
First, no way in hell I'd give up a second rounder for Leilie.

Second, no way in hell the Chiefs and Donkeys deal with each other.Shanahan has been sucking Rod Smith's schlong for the last three years; Lelie's been wronged more than LJ ever was IMO. I think Shanahan has denied him a real chance to succeed.

Lelie will be a decent-to-good #1 WR SOMEWHERE in the NFL....mark that down. I'd prefer it be with us; and a second rounder is good value, for an EXPERIENCED #1 WR....albeit, an aspiring #1 WR.

His 17+ yds per catch speaks for itself. That's phenomenal; and speaks well of his after-the-catch abilities. He still drops too many, but.....Plummer doesn't have the arm to get him the ball; hell, Green may not either....but it's worth a try. He DOES need work in the middle of the field. He anticipates hits, he's a bit reticent over-the-middle.....but I think that's "coach-able.

JMHO.

JBucc
06-03-2006, 10:10 PM
JBucc must think that Gaz thinks we'll sign/trade for all of them, cause he voted for all of them, plus the Gaz option.It's a problem I have with those boxes, I have to click them all. You should've seen my ACT answer sheet.

beer bacon
06-03-2006, 10:13 PM
Shanahan has been sucking Rod Smith's schlong for the last three years; Lelie's been wronged more than LJ ever was IMO. I think Shanahan has denied him a real chance to succeed.

Lelie will be a decent-to-good #1 WR SOMEWHERE in the NFL....mark that down. I'd prefer it be with us; and a second rounder is good value, for an EXPERIENCED #1 WR....albeit, an aspiring #1 WR.

His 17+ yds per catch speaks for itself. That's phenomenal; and speaks well of his after-the-catch abilities. He still drops too many, but.....Plummer doesn't have the arm to get him the ball; hell, Green may not either....but it's worth a try. He DOES need work in the middle of the field. He anticipates hits, it's a bit reticent over-the-middle.....but I think that's "coach-able.

JMHO.

Lelie right now is just a speed/deep ball guy. He is not the type of guy you want as your #1.

morphius
06-03-2006, 10:15 PM
Law is the only one up there worth squat, and he is long of tooth.

Bennett may be able to do something with our line, but I don't know that he is worth much of anything. Lelie, don't give the rat any draft picks, like I said before, just wait for Lelie to quit and then pick him up.

TE Turley? While I think Wilson is a waste of a roster spot, TE that can't block is worthless. But a tackle trying to be a TE, eh.

Pitt Gorilla
06-03-2006, 10:16 PM
This is really good news. I'm not sure what compensation would be for Bennett or Lelie, but each of the players would be a good get. If Turley could put on a few lbs, he could still hold down the tackle spot.

noa
06-03-2006, 10:17 PM
Shanahan has been sucking Rod Smith's schlong for the last three years; Lelie's been wronged more than LJ ever was IMO. I think Shanahan has denied him a real chance to succeed.

Lelie will be a decent-to-good #1 WR SOMEWHERE in the NFL....mark that down. I'd prefer it be with us; and a second rounder is good value, for an EXPERIENCED #1 WR....albeit, an aspiring #1 WR.

His 17+ yds per catch speaks for itself. That's phenomenal; and speaks well of his after-the-catch abilities. He still drops too many, but.....Plummer doesn't have the arm to get him the ball; hell, Green may not either....but it's worth a try. He DOES need work in the middle of the field. He anticipates hits, he's a bit reticent over-the-middle.....but I think that's "coach-able.

JMHO.


Even if you think he's good, what makes you think the Broncos and the Chiefs will make a trade with each other? Trades with divisional rivals are very rare.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:18 PM
Lelie right now is just a speed/deep ball guy. He is not the type of guy you want as your #1.

Bullshit. IMO.

I think SHANAHAN has made him that; because of his reluctance to go with him, over Smith.

I honestly think his crossing/seam/middle-of-the-field catches will come with some confidence from the coaching staff.....I watched a lot of his college games; he's capable. I know the speed of the game is different. I just don't think he's been given a real chance.

Unless Parker or Thorpe have impressed the hell out of Herm, I think Lelie for a second rounder is fair value. JMHO.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:18 PM
Even if you think he's good, what makes you think the Broncos and the Chiefs will make a trade with each other? Trades with divisional rivals are very rare.

I know it's rare. But no one else if offering a second rounder. If we do, Shanny might bite.....:hmmm:

milkman
06-03-2006, 10:19 PM
Shanahan has been sucking Rod Smith's schlong for the last three years; Lelie's been wronged more than LJ ever was IMO. I think Shanahan has denied him a real chance to succeed.

Lelie will be a decent-to-good #1 WR SOMEWHERE in the NFL....mark that down. I'd prefer it be with us; and a second rounder is good value, for an EXPERIENCED #1 WR....albeit, an aspiring #1 WR.

His 17+ yds per catch speaks for itself. That's phenomenal; and speaks well of his after-the-catch abilities. He still drops too many, but.....Plummer doesn't have the arm to get him the ball; hell, Green may not either....but it's worth a try. He DOES need work in the middle of the field. He anticipates hits, he's a bit reticent over-the-middle.....but I think that's "coach-able.

JMHO.

Regardless of whether he hasn't had the chance to succeed, and our differing opinion on his worth, it still remains that the Chiefs and Donkeys simply don't deal.

Count Zarth
06-03-2006, 10:19 PM
Clayton reported we signed Ty Law a month ago.

milkman
06-03-2006, 10:20 PM
Even if you think he's good, what makes you think the Broncos and the Chiefs will make a trade with each other? Trades with divisional rivals are very rare.

Trades within the AFC West are not rare.

They don't exist.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:23 PM
Regardless of whether he hasn't had the chance to succeed, and our differing opinion on his worth, it still remains that the Chiefs and Donkeys simply don't deal.

IF we offer a second rounder, AND no one else does.....:shrug:

:)

noa
06-03-2006, 10:24 PM
Trades within the AFC West are not rare.

They don't exist.

Yeah, I couldn't find any...the only recent example I found in the entire NFL was the Browns trading Northcutt to the Ravens. Does anyone know of any other trades between divisional rivals?

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:29 PM
Yeah, I couldn't find any...the only recent example I found in the entire NFL was the Browns trading Northcutt to the Ravens. Does anyone know of any other trades between divisional rivals?

Trades are rare, anymore....period.

Trades between division rivals, even more so.

However, the Donks would get "something" for him....and it would help with their salary cap, in the final year of his contract. And the Chiefs would get a candidate for something they haven't really had since Andre Rison.....a true #1 WR....or at least a serious candidate. It's a win-win scenario.

Veto-ing it, entirely on the basis of "it's a Division Rival" would be silly at that point.

I still think there's less than a 50-50 chance; but my gut says they just MAY pull this off....it make too much sense for BOTH teams not to do it, IMHO.

jAZ
06-03-2006, 10:31 PM
If Turley could put on a few lbs, he could still hold down the tackle spot.
I thought I read that the only way Turley will be able to play football again would be if he lost weight enough weight for his back to hold up. If that's true, I don't expect anyone at Arrowhead is expecting anything more than a blocking TE.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:35 PM
I thought I read that the only way Turley will be able to play football again would be if he lost weight enough weight for his back to hold up. If that's true, I don't expect anyone at Arrowhead is expecting anything more than a blocking TE.
On the ESPN show today, they said he was trying to gain weight; was already in the 280s, pushing 290. They said if he's 300 by the end of training camp, he could push for a tackle job.

Can you say, RT....and "former Pro-Bowl Player.....Kyle Turley, starting at RT for the Chiefs!" :)

I know I'm being a homer, but I'm just sayin......heh.

Logical
06-03-2006, 10:36 PM
I had to go with Gaz because I think None of the Above is the real answer.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:37 PM
I had to go with Gaz because I think None of the Above is the real answer.

Okay, Chicken Little/Shlebrock.....:harumph:



:p

jAZ
06-03-2006, 10:37 PM
Can you say, RT....and "former Pro-Bowl Player.....Kyle Turley, starting at RT for the Chiefs!" :)

I know I'm being a homer, but I'm just sayin......heh.
Wow. That's interesting. Unlikely to turn out as exciting as it could be, but cool enough.

jAZ
06-03-2006, 10:46 PM
I thought I read that the only way Turley will be able to play football again would be if he lost weight enough weight for his back to hold up. If that's true, I don't expect anyone at Arrowhead is expecting anything more than a blocking TE.
Here's the article (or one similar) I was thinking about...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2434536
Turley has been treated for more than two years now by Dr. Robert Watkins, a renowned Los Angeles back specialist who performed surgery on a herniated disc in March 2004. Turley re-injured his back four months later and eschewed a second surgery, preferring instead to go through a long rehabilitation that included shedding considerable weight.

During his rehabilitation, Turley suggested that he might return to the league as a defensive end. But he decided that he needed to play a position that placed even fewer demands on his back, and at which he did not need to carry as much bulk, and settled on tight end. It is believed that Turley has spent several months working out in Arizona and performing receiving drills as he attempts to adapt to a new position.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:52 PM
Here's the article (or one similar) I was thinking about...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2434536
Turley has been treated for more than two years now by Dr. Robert Watkins, a renowned Los Angeles back specialist who performed surgery on a herniated disc in March 2004. Turley re-injured his back four months later and eschewed a second surgery, preferring instead to go through a long rehabilitation that included shedding considerable weight.

During his rehabilitation, Turley suggested that he might return to the league as a defensive end. But he decided that he needed to play a position that placed even fewer demands on his back, and at which he did not need to carry as much bulk, and settled on tight end. It is believed that Turley has spent several months working out in Arizona and performing receiving drills as he attempts to adapt to a new position.
Yeah, I'd read/heard that too....but with Miami rejecting him (as TE) and advice from the Chiefs, Clayton made it seem as though he's willing to compromise now.....by gaining some weight--up to around 300 lbs....and see how it goes. I suspect his real value lies in being more marketable, as a blocking TE or someone able to step in as a an O lineman, if the stiuation called for it.

Just tryin' to put myself in his shoes. I'd be doing whatever the team that 'wanted' to sign me was asking at this point....:hmmm:

milkman
06-03-2006, 10:55 PM
Trades are rare, anymore....period.

Trades between division rivals, even more so.

However, the Donks would get "something" for him....and it would help with their salary cap, in the final year of his contract. And the Chiefs would get a candidate for something they haven't really had since Andre Rison.....a true #1 WR....or at least a serious candidate. It's a win-win scenario.

Veto-ing it, entirely on the basis of "it's a Division Rival" would be silly at that point.

I still think there's less than a 50-50 chance; but my gut says they just MAY pull this off....it make too much sense for BOTH teams not to do it, IMHO.

I still think there's about a 0% chance.

Practicality has never gotten in the way of intra-divisional hatred in the AFC West.

Mr. Kotter
06-03-2006, 10:58 PM
I still think there's about a 0% chance.

Practicality has never gotten in the way of intra-divisional hatred in the AFC West.

You could be right. I'm hoping you are wrong.....this time. ;)

greg63
06-03-2006, 10:59 PM
Gaz.

milkman
06-03-2006, 11:07 PM
You could be right. I'm hoping you are wrong.....this time. ;)

There was an article in The Sporting News several years ago that outlined the deep seeded hatred that existed among the owners of the teams within the AFC West that goes back to the early days of the AFL, and how that hatred had been transferred from original owners to owners that came along later.

These AFC West teams aren't just rivals, they really do despise each other in the front offices.

Cochise
06-04-2006, 12:02 AM
If the donkeys trade Lelie in the division, I'll eat a Raiders sandwich.

Mr. Kotter
06-04-2006, 12:02 AM
If the donkeys trade Lelie in the division, I'll eat a Raiders sandwich.

It may be the only choice they have...:)

Adept Havelock
06-04-2006, 12:10 AM
I'd really prefer to grab Law for a two year contract, but I also think Lelie might well be worth a second rounder. If he plays with the heart Kennison does against Denver, it would be something to see.

We need a #1 WR, and he might be the best option right now. :shrug:

I'm not terribly optimistic about the likelyhood of either, but I've always been a pessimist. That way all the surprises in my life are pleasant ones. ;)

Turley might be OK depth for the O-Line....as for another blocking tight end, I'd rather we would have made a run at Malamunewhatever out of St. Louis that will be teaming up with Gates for the Bolts. That said, I'm still pretty damn happy with Jason Dunn.

Tribal Warfare
06-04-2006, 12:11 AM
It will be either Law or Benett we won't bee able to get both, but out of the guys listed these are players most likely KC would try to grab

Cochise
06-04-2006, 12:14 AM
It may be the only choice they have...:)

For one thing, he's not worth a second round pick.

He was a middle first round guy IIRC, and was considered a big disappointment at that. Worth a shot for a 4th rounder or something, maybe. But the trade is astronomically unlikely with your main competition in the division in any case.

The knocks on him in the draft, that he played weak competition in the WAC and moved up the draft board with his combine numbers alone, seem to have more validity all the time. It doesn't matter what you get timed at, if you can't run routes or consistently get seperation, what do you have?

The guy is, what, a 4th or 5th year player and can't be considered anything but a project, IMO

Mr. Kotter
06-04-2006, 12:17 AM
For one thing, he's not worth a second round pick.

He was a middle first round guy IIRC, and was considered a big disappointment at that. Worth a shot for a 4th rounder or something, maybe. But the trade is astronomically unlikely with your main competition in the division in any case.

The knocks on him in the draft, that he played weak competition in the WAC and moved up the draft board with his combine numbers alone, seem to have more validity all the time. It doesn't matter what you get timed at, if you can't run routes or consistently get seperation, what do you have?

The guy is, what, a 4th or 5th year player and can't be considered anything but a project, IMOI'll quote post #14, in case you didn't go back..... and point out, he's caught 40-50 balls, each of the last three years, from Jake Plummer....:spock: Shanahan has been sucking Rod Smith's schlong for the last three years; Lelie's been wronged more than LJ ever was IMO. I think Shanahan has denied him a real chance to succeed.

Lelie will be a decent-to-good #1 WR SOMEWHERE in the NFL....mark that down. I'd prefer it be with us; and a second rounder is good value, for an EXPERIENCED #1 WR....albeit, an aspiring #1 WR.

His 17+ yds per catch speaks for itself. That's phenomenal; and speaks well of his after-the-catch abilities. He still drops too many, but.....Plummer doesn't have the arm to get him the ball; hell, Green may not either....but it's worth a try. He DOES need work in the middle of the field. He anticipates hits, he's a bit reticent over-the-middle.....but I think that's "coach-able.

JMHO.

NJ Chief Fan
06-04-2006, 12:19 AM
were gettin law says me...hes gonna sign on july 11th...me and king carl already had a discussion and i said thats what i want for my birthday oh and i told him ill let him live :)

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-04-2006, 12:22 AM
Lelie is a poor man's Alvin Harper. He'd be a decent #3 receiver, but no way in hell is he worth a second round pick, more like a 5th at best.

Mr. Kotter
06-04-2006, 12:26 AM
Lelie is a poor man's Alvin Harper. He'd be a decent #3 receiver, but no way in hell is he worth a second round pick, more like a 5th at best.
If that is what the Donks get offered....then he'll be THEIR high paid # 3-4 WR this year.....

Shanny would rather eat Rat poison; or drink Anti-Freeze.....

Heh. Now THERE is an idea....:hmmm:

Given our typical second rounders.....it wouldn't be any worse. :shrug:

old_geezer
06-04-2006, 05:48 AM
My .02 worth;

Lelie is an abject failure in Denver (who needs receivers almost as badly as the Chiefs). I might sign him as a free agent to compete with the rest of the table scraps we have at WR, but I wouldn't give the Donkeys ANY compensation for someone who has less upside than Crapo Thorpe.

StcChief
06-04-2006, 06:34 AM
Turley for sure.
Law - I hope so at a fair price deal of incentives

Mile High Mania
06-04-2006, 07:17 AM
I think Kotter is missing the boat with his comment on Rod Smith... Shanahan isn't favoring Rod at all. Rod Smith is damn good. Lelie showed two years ago that he could be very good in this league. Last year, I'm not sure what was wrong, but he certainly fell off from the 2004 production.

Lelie is expecting to be handed the #1 gig ... he's waiting for Rod to retire. That's not the way to go about it. I think he has a lot of talent and I'd hate him going to KC, b/c I think he could do well. Lelie is not a bad player - he needs to get his read right though. Rod and Walker will be a great duo in 2006, Lelie still has a solid role. He's pissed b/c they got Walker and this is Lelie's contract year... he's wanting the big money contract next season.

We'll see what happens. I can't see a trade within the division though, esp to KC.

Bowser
06-04-2006, 08:49 AM
I voted for all but Turley, which means Turley is a lock to be in a Chiefs uni opening day.

And I still son't believe the Broncos are going to trade anything to the Chiefs. Even Leelee.

StcChief
06-04-2006, 08:54 AM
Lelie won't be a Chief...Donxs won't trade him in the division. Unless they screw us on a deal.
I don't think we really want Lelie. Seems like a payme.

Turley if recovered could very will be a good blocking TE. eventually back on OL.....Chiefs thinking.
Getting a vet for pretty cheap.

recxjake
06-04-2006, 09:18 AM
Bennett to Miami
Law to New England
Lelie to someone else
Turley to Chiefs

HemiEd
06-04-2006, 09:26 AM
We do not need Lelie, we have Crap!

ROYC75
06-04-2006, 11:59 AM
Clayton reported we signed Ty Law a month ago.

No shit, by friday even. Cocksucker didn't say which friday thou. To speak of it on ESPN Nesw radio then to back track derailed my opinion of John Clayton.

ROYC75
06-04-2006, 12:03 PM
I was very unhappy when Lelie went to Denver in the draft. A kid with alot of talent and speed, I just knew he would be a thorn in our sides for years to come.......

We have been blessed so far, could we tap his talents that Denver hasn't gotten from him ? Maybe a 3rd rounder, but Shanny wants a 1 and he won't get it.

My pick is still Law, He knows Herm well and might just return back to him. I only hope he doesn't break the bank doing it.

Tribal Warfare
06-04-2006, 12:49 PM
Turley would only be depth, and he doesn't want play RT so this would be a moot point if this occurs

Mr. Laz
06-04-2006, 03:23 PM
if the chiefs think they need a receiver why wait and have to trade for one?


if you're gonna trade for one, why wait and trade for Lelie instead of Walker?

Rausch
06-04-2006, 03:28 PM
An undersized and injured Turley is likely still better than "sure-sack" Black...

Mecca
06-04-2006, 03:49 PM
It will be either Law or Benett we won't bee able to get both, but out of the guys listed these are players most likely KC would try to grab

I don't really buy that, if you're saying it's money. Bennett was signed to be a backup and has a backup RB contract he isn't rolling in big bucks.

Tribal Warfare
06-04-2006, 04:33 PM
I don't really buy that, if you're saying it's money. Bennett was signed to be a backup and has a backup RB contract he isn't rolling in big bucks.
KC will get one of those guys, but not both if their really gunning for them

Spicy McHaggis
06-04-2006, 04:39 PM
I know it's rare. But no one else if offering a second rounder. If we do, Shanny might bite.....:hmmm:

And why is no one else offering Shanny a second rounder? There are other teams that need WR's just as badly/worse than we do.

Valiant
06-04-2006, 04:56 PM
Of the four Clayton is mentioning as "the Chiefs in the running" who do you think the Chiefs are most likely to sign/acquire??? (NOTE: You may select more than one of those players) :hmmm:

I'm gonna with: we sign Ty Law, and trade for Lelie. And Turley, almost sounds like a done deal....although it's sounded that way for a week. :hmmm:


Ty Law is our best bet hopefully... He is on the open market and fills a need and has a relationship with Edwards...

Lelie there is no way in hell we get unless he gets cut.. The Donks will not trade with a division rival, especially with revenge factor and our luck with their malcontents biting them in the ass...

Turley serves no purpose but camp fodder... We already have a monster blocking TE, our specialist TE and TG... Turley's body can no longer carry the wait for the line.. This is why he has been trying out as a TE..

Mr. Laz
06-04-2006, 06:06 PM
IF we offer a second rounder, AND no one else does.....:shrug:

:)

if we were willing to spend a 2nd rounder for a receiver why didn't we just go after Walker?

Sure-Oz
06-04-2006, 06:31 PM
if we were willing to spend a 2nd rounder for a receiver why didn't we just go after Walker?
Exactly...

sedated
06-04-2006, 06:57 PM
I would take any of the above except Lelie.

Law - we need another corner. even though QB pressure is the key to a good defense, another quality CB could give us more options with the front seven.

Bennett - Priest ain't comin back. We need another RB, and he could be a great change of pace. LJ could save a lot of wear and tear on his body with a quality backup.

Turley - nothing more than a project. could help with the running game.

Lelie - drops balls. not a #1. fugg him.

recxjake
06-04-2006, 07:03 PM
i was listening to an interview with turley and the man is on a mission... he said he is gaining weight everyday... I would take him ahead of jordan black anyday

listopencil
06-04-2006, 07:09 PM
Wow, 112 votes.

Mr. Kotter
06-04-2006, 07:28 PM
if we were willing to spend a 2nd rounder for a receiver why didn't we just go after Walker?

Good point. Coulda been the contract demands, I suppose. :hmmm:

Maybe we can squeeze Shanny for a third rounder....but I doubt it; especially with us. :shrug:

CoMoChief
06-04-2006, 08:55 PM
First, no way in hell I'd give up a second rounder for Leilie.

Second, no way in hell the Chiefs and Donkeys deal with each other.


Yeah no shit, we gave up a 2nd round pick for an Pro-Bowl CB in Surtain. No way Ashely Lelie has even close to that value as Surtain does. I'd trade him for a 4th rounder, that is all. And they (Denve) probably would tell us to go **** ourselves which is fine, because were gonna kick their asses this season with or without Lelie.

CoMoChief
06-04-2006, 08:58 PM
i was listening to an interview with turley and the man is on a mission... he said he is gaining weight everyday... I would take him ahead of jordan black anyday


You're right, for once. Black sucks at the tackle position and is more suited for the guard spot. Turley before the injury was one of the best RTs in the game. Put a little weight on him and he has the type of motor that could make up for his weight until he gets into tackle shape.

milkman
06-04-2006, 08:58 PM
Good point. Coulda been the contract demands, I suppose. :hmmm:

Maybe we can squeeze Shanny for a third rounder....but I doubt it; especially with us. :shrug:

I really think you're living in a drug induced fantasy world, Kotter, and whatever drug it is, you're supposed to share, dammit! :cuss:

Tribal Warfare
06-04-2006, 09:00 PM
Turley before the injury was one of the best RTs in the game. Put a little weight on him and he has the type of motor that could make up for his weight until he gets into tackle shape.

problem he doesn't want to be an RT

CoMoChief
06-04-2006, 09:04 PM
problem he doesn't want to be an RT


I dont see why not? Whats the difference between a tackle and a blocking TE? There almost the same position.

Tribal Warfare
06-04-2006, 09:50 PM
I dont see why not? Whats the difference between a tackle and a blocking TE? There almost the same position.


The weight issue

Mr. Kotter
08-05-2006, 09:42 AM
Bump.

I guess Clayton is more "wired in" than many think...heh.

Come on, Lelie.... ;)

PastorMikH
08-05-2006, 11:33 AM
I just noticed he got 3 out of 4 so far. I have my doubts about Lelie making it all along. I think Denver would rather let him sit out than trade him to the Chiefs for what he's worth.

Count Zarth
08-05-2006, 11:52 AM
Bump.

I guess Clayton is more "wired in" than many think...heh.


Thanks.