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J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:40 AM
Me and the missus are fitting to be on splitsville again. I intend to move out next week. Bitch kills 1/2 gallon a vodka a night. Works but doesn't pay bills and never cleans. Wish me some luck, as I intend to try to get custody of my 4 year old son. Any lawyerly advice would be appreciated.

luv
06-10-2006, 01:41 AM
Me and the missus are fitting to be on splitsville again. I intend to move out next week. Bitch kills 1/2 gallon a vodka a night. Works but doesn't pay bills and never cleans. Wish me some luck, as I intend to try to get custody of my 4 year old son. Any lawyerly advice would be appreciated.
Is this your final answer? :p

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:43 AM
Is this your final answer? :p

For sure.

Not doing the 100+ stitches like I got last time thing again.

We haven't been in love for a while and, quite frankly, I'm starting to feel like a sugar daddy.

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 01:43 AM
Me and the missus are fitting to be on splitsville again. I intend to move out next week. Bitch kills 1/2 gallon a vodka a night. Works but doesn't pay bills and never cleans. Wish me some luck, as I intend to try to get custody of my 4 year old son. Any lawyerly advice would be appreciated.

Well man, I'm going to law school next year if that helps? :shrug:

But, seriously...try and round up some people that would be willing to testify about her little problem with Grey Goose.

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 01:44 AM
For sure.

Not doing the 100+ stitches like I got last time thing again.

We haven't been in love for a while and, quite frankly, I'm starting to feel like a sugar daddy.

You'll feel sooo much better when she's gone. Trust me, I know.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:44 AM
Well man, I'm going to law school next year if that helps? :shrug:

But, seriously...try and round up some people that would be willing to testify about her little problem with Grey Goose.

Not even grey goose, Captain Smirnoff

luv
06-10-2006, 01:46 AM
Not even grey goose, Captain Smirnoff
I have some Smirnoff she can have.

Moooo
06-10-2006, 01:47 AM
Be quiet, patient, and slowly gather info on her. As hard as it is, don't go arguing with her cause you'll say something that will give away your need for evidence.

When you've compiled enough for a good case on the child, go see a lawyer. You might need to see one before so you can know what sort of stuff you need to get. Although people's testimony is great, you'd be suprised how quickly your acquaintances are nowhere to be found whenever it comes to something like this. Try to go for evidence that doesn't have a conscience

Moooo

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 01:47 AM
Damn,it must be goin round me and the mrs had a good one earlier tonight.

Good luck.

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 01:47 AM
I have some Smirnoff she can have.

That's a terrible thing to say.



Giving away alcohol?
:shake:

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:49 AM
I have some Smirnoff she can have.


I appreciate that.

Fugger.

I can't tell you how many times I've came home from work and she's been trashed. Chatting with fuggers and drinking vodka til she passes out (on occassion head first on the key board) all the while watching my son and her 9 year old daughter

BWillie
06-10-2006, 01:49 AM
I hope you signed a Pre-Nup. Always sign a pre-nup.

luv
06-10-2006, 01:50 AM
I appreciate that.

Fugger.

I can't tell you how many times I've came home from work and she's been trashed. Chatting with fuggers and drinking vodka til she passes out (on occassion head first on the key board) all the while watching my son and her 9 year old daughter
I thought it would help the cause in you getting your son.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:50 AM
Damn,it must be goin round me and the mrs had a good one earlier tonight.

Good luck.

This has been in the works for definite at least a month.


I'm just done with it. I'm 31 and am not looking back in 10 years going what the **** did I do with the last 20 years.

She can have an internet dork.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:51 AM
I hope you signed a Pre-Nup. Always sign a pre-nup.

Trust me she can get half.


Half the payments, half the debt.

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 01:51 AM
I can't tell you how many times I've came home from work and she's been trashed. Chatting with fuggers and drinking vodka til she passes out (on occassion head first on the key board) all the while watching my son and her 9 year old daughter

I figured as much,she just like disappeared from the chat room.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:52 AM
I thought it would help the cause in you getting your son.

I think she's doing a good enough job of that on her own.

luv
06-10-2006, 01:53 AM
I think she's doing a good enough job of that on her own.
Okay. I'm keeping the vodka then. I might actually get around to drinking it sometime.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:54 AM
I figured as much,she just like disappeared from the chat room.

Last year she met a guy from a chat room while we were still together, he eventually came down right as we were trying to work it out. He left when I be the piss out of him and I put my hand through a window. Obviously she prefers chatroom guys.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:55 AM
Okay. I'm keeping the vodka then. I might actually get around to drinking it sometime.


Well I wouldn't wanna break you. That's a gift of at least $5, isn't it?

:)

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 01:56 AM
This has been in the works for definite at least a month.


I'm just done with it. I'm 31 and am not looking back in 10 years going what the **** did I do with the last 20 years.

She can have an internet dork.

BTW,my last post was nothing more than a bad joke but it's better than wallowing in bs.Personally,at your age I think you're making a good move and believe me at 43 i know what I speak of.

luv
06-10-2006, 01:56 AM
Well I wouldn't wanna break you. That's a gift of at least $5, isn't it?

:)
I think it was $10.67. It's a fifth.

Moooo
06-10-2006, 01:58 AM
Last year she met a guy from a chat room while we were still together, he eventually came down right as we were trying to work it out. He left when I be the piss out of him and I put my hand through a window. Obviously she prefers chatroom guys.

I'm being serious, you may be better off waiting for something like this to happen again. See a lawyer to find outt he legality of a hidden camera, or seeing if there's a way to record internet chats...IF she's drinking she'll make mistakes.

Be a tiger. Lie in the brush and only strike when you know you can get the back of the neck. You see so many dumbasses wanting to break up with their ex, only to jump the gun and get owned in court. If you know you're right on this, get a lawyer and make sure the court will see exactly what you do.

Moooo

Mecca
06-10-2006, 01:58 AM
Last year she met a guy from a chat room while we were still together, he eventually came down right as we were trying to work it out. He left when I be the piss out of him and I put my hand through a window. Obviously she prefers chatroom guys.

I met some married chick from online once......She had this weird husband she was seperated from. He showed up and threated to kick my ass......I stood up being much larger than this man I briefly told him if he touched me I'd break him in half and he'd never walk the same again. He never bothered me again.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 01:59 AM
BTW,my last post was nothing more than a bad joke but it's better than wallowing in bs.Personally,at your age I think you're making a good move and believe me at 43 i know what I speak of.

I took it as much, from what I've seen you've been pretty classy throughout the years.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:00 AM
I met some married chick from online once......She had this weird husband she was seperated from. He showed up and threated to kick my ass......I stood up being much larger than this man I briefly told him if he touched me I'd break him in half and he'd never walk the same again. He never bothered me again.


Didn't quite work that way for me. I'm a small guy. I didn't talk, I just swung and didn't stop swinging until he stopped moving.

BTW, he had a foot on me, but I'm wirey.

Mecca
06-10-2006, 02:02 AM
Didn't quite work that way for me. I'm a small guy. I didn't talk, I just swung and didn't stop swinging until he stopped moving.

BTW, he had a foot on me, but I'm wirey.

In fairness to this guy....if she told him you were seperated walking up and swinging puts you more in the wrong than him. Personally if someone did that to me I'd probably thumb you in the eye and kick you in the balls, dirty yes but effective.

BigMeatballDave
06-10-2006, 02:02 AM
I have some Smirnoff she can have.Wow. I cannot believe you just said that...

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:02 AM
I think it was $10.67. It's a fifth.

I didn't realize the amount of generousity in your heart.


Please forgive me for underestimating you.


:)

luv
06-10-2006, 02:04 AM
Wow. I cannot believe you just said that...
My line of thinking was that, in order for him to get full custody, he'd pretty much have to prove her unfit. I thought I was helping. My bad.

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 02:05 AM
In fairness to this guy....if she told him you were seperated walking up and swinging puts you more in the wrong than him. Personally if someone did that to me I'd probably thumb you in the eye and kick you in the balls, dirty yes but effective.

I gotta disagree here,seperated is not divorced.

Big difference,at least in my book.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:05 AM
In fairness to this guy....if she told him you were seperated walking up and swinging puts you more in the wrong than him. Personally if someone did that to me I'd probably thumb you in the eye and kick you in the balls, dirty yes but effective.


I didn't care then and I don't care now.

I admit she probably had alot more to do with it then I previously wanted to admit.


But fug it.


As far as that other shit, he fought back. I fought harder, because I didn't care if he hurt me. He cared that I hurt him.

Mecca
06-10-2006, 02:06 AM
Just don't say in court "she doesn't clean the house". I don't think that will go over well. Especially if it's a female judge.

KcMizzou
06-10-2006, 02:06 AM
Good luck man. Nothing fun, or funny about these things.

luv
06-10-2006, 02:07 AM
I gotta disagree here,seperated is not divorced.

Big difference,at least in my book.
I would agree. And if he was under the impression that they were working things out, it's better to take his aggressions out on him rather than her.

KCChiefsMan
06-10-2006, 02:07 AM
Didn't quite work that way for me. I'm a small guy. I didn't talk, I just swung and didn't stop swinging until he stopped moving.

BTW, he had a foot on me, but I'm wirey.


I am sorry for your situation, but it's not the guys fault, men will be men..your wife is the one who is committed, not him. Taking action against him is the wrong thing to do. Again, this is a terrible situation for anyone to be in, and I'm sure it sucks! Hang in there, get the proof you need and then tell her to not let the door kick her in the butt..

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:08 AM
Just don't say in court "she doesn't clean the house". I don't think that will go over well. Especially if it's a female judge.


When I say this I'm not saying it like it was her duty.


I'm the one who works 50 hours a week, pays all the bills, and does all the cleaning and laundry.


I feel like a bitch right now.

Mecca
06-10-2006, 02:09 AM
I gotta disagree here,seperated is not divorced.

Big difference,at least in my book.

If a woman tells me she's seperated from her husband that generally means "I'm free to do what I want". Just so you know if a woman tells me she's seperated from her husband I viewed that completely differently than her saying she's married.

If I was just sitting there and this guy pulls up and just starts swinging on me number 1, I'm going to kill him. Number 2 me and everyone else around is going to think what a nutcase this guy and and no wonder they're seperated.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:10 AM
If a woman tells me she's seperated from her husband that generally means "I'm free to do what I want". Just so you know if a woman tells me she's seperated from her husband I viewed that completely differently than her saying she's married.

If I was just sitting there and this guy pulls up and just starts swinging on me number 1, I'm going to kill him. Number 2 me and everyone else around is going to think what a nutcase this guy and and no wonder they're seperated.


Then you're a prick.

KcMizzou
06-10-2006, 02:10 AM
I am sorry for your situation, but it's not the guys fault, men will be men..your wife is the one who is committed, not him. I agree with that. It's natural to be pissed at the guy... but in all honesty, he's not the one who betrayed you. She is.

BWillie
06-10-2006, 02:11 AM
I am sorry for your situation, but it's not the guys fault, men will be men..your wife is the one who is committed, not him. Taking action against him is the wrong thing to do. Again, this is a terrible situation for anyone to be in, and I'm sure it sucks! Hang in there, get the proof you need and then tell her to not let the door kick her in the butt..

Ya man, sorry to hear about this. It sounds like you took your anger out on this guy instead of your wife, which is what most guys do. Hey, better than beating your wife or anything but it's totally your wife's fault. Try not to take it out on the guy, unless he's a total dbag and just asking for it.

Sounds like to me you should of launched her a few years ago. Get it over with as soon as possible, you'll be alot happier and ready to turn the page in your life.

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 02:12 AM
If a woman tells me she's seperated from her husband that generally means "I'm free to do what I want". Just so you know if a woman tells me she's seperated from her husband I viewed that completely differently than her saying she's married.

I'm assuming you must be a helluva lot younger than I and have not yet learned that women generally mean one thing when saying another.

luv
06-10-2006, 02:12 AM
If a woman tells me she's seperated from her husband that generally means "I'm free to do what I want". Just so you know if a woman tells me she's seperated from her husband I viewed that completely differently than her saying she's married.

If I was just sitting there and this guy pulls up and just starts swinging on me number 1, I'm going to kill him. Number 2 me and everyone else around is going to think what a nutcase this guy and and no wonder they're seperated.
You're confused. Divorced means you're free to do what you want. Separated means that you're still married and technically cheating. That can be used against you in court.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:12 AM
I agree with that. It's natural to be pissed at the guy... but in all honesty, he's not the one who betrayed you. She is.


It don't matter.

Takes 2 to tango, dude was setting shit up before I even moved out.

I don't even know why we got back together in the first place

KcMizzou
06-10-2006, 02:13 AM
Ya man, sorry to hear about this. It sounds like you took your anger out on this guy instead of your wife, which is what most guys do. Hey, better than beating your wife or anything but it's totally your wife's fault. Try not to take it out on the guy, unless he's a total dbag and just asking for it.

Sounds like to me you should of launched her a few years ago. Get it over with as soon as possible, you'll be alot happier and ready to turn the page in your life. I'm sure if it weren't for the kid he would have done that.

Been there.

Moooo
06-10-2006, 02:13 AM
Ya man, sorry to hear about this. It sounds like you took your anger out on this guy instead of your wife, which is what most guys do. Hey, better than beating your wife or anything but it's totally your wife's fault. Try not to take it out on the guy, unless he's a total dbag and just asking for it.

Sounds like to me you should of launched her a few years ago. Get it over with as soon as possible, you'll be alot happier and ready to turn the page in your life.

Some women will cheat on a guy just to see them get all defensive and beat the crap out of the other guy. It makes them feel special, like they're still loved enough to fight over. Usually if this is the case, they won't actually have sex with the other guy, just lead them on and be very sloppy about the clues they leave behind.

An insecure woman is quite the intriguing individual.

Moooo

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:13 AM
I'm assuming you must be a helluva lot younger than I and have not yet learned that women generally mean one thing when saying another.


ROFL

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 02:14 AM
I don't even know why we got back together in the first place

Probably because it was convenient.

Mecca
06-10-2006, 02:15 AM
Then you're a prick.

Nah, alot of people are in bad marriages. If I'm told seperated that usually leads to "I'm getting divorced". I really don't think this makes me a prick.....if a woman is telling me things that aren't true that's more on her than me.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:15 AM
I'm sure if it weren't for the kid he would have done that.

Been there.


Yeppers I love my boy to death. Wouldn't trade the world for him.

Most of the old timers were there through a difficult pregnancy and his birth.


I think the answer to my problems is just to take him with me.

Baconeater
06-10-2006, 02:15 AM
You love her
But she loves him
And he loves somebody else
You just can't win
And so it goes
Till the day you die
This thing they call love
It's gonna make you cry
I've had the blues
The reds and the pinks
One thing for sure...

Mecca
06-10-2006, 02:16 AM
I'm assuming you must be a helluva lot younger than I and have not yet learned that women generally mean one thing when saying another.

25......

luv
06-10-2006, 02:16 AM
You love her
But she loves him
And he loves somebody else
You just can't win
And so it goes
Till the day you die
This thing they call love
It's gonna make you cry
I've had the blues
The reds and the pinks
One thing for sure...
Love stinks?

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 02:17 AM
Luv stinks?

fixed your post. :p

KcMizzou
06-10-2006, 02:17 AM
I think the answer to my problems is just to take him with me.That's what I did. Two boys. They're 8 and 9 now.

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 02:17 AM
You love her
But she loves him
And he loves somebody else
You just can't win
And so it goes
Till the day you die
This thing they call love
It's gonna make you cry
I've had the blues
The reds and the pinks
One thing for sure...



LOVE STINKS!!

Mecca
06-10-2006, 02:18 AM
You're confused. Divorced means you're free to do what you want. Separated means that you're still married and technically cheating. That can be used against you in court.

I know a girl who's technically be seperated for 2 years then because neither of them can afford the divorce. They don't see each other, they aren't together but technically they're married. Are you saying these people should just sit around and not see anyone else?

luv
06-10-2006, 02:18 AM
fixed your post. :p
At what?

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 02:18 AM
25......

I figured as much.

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 02:19 AM
At what?

You tell me? :shrug:

Baconeater
06-10-2006, 02:20 AM
LOVE STINKS!!
YEAH YEAH!!

luv
06-10-2006, 02:20 AM
I know a girl who's technically be seperated for 2 years then because neither of them can afford the divorce. They don't see each other, they aren't together but technically they're married. Are you saying these people should just sit around and not see anyone else?
They can't scrounge up $35? That's how much it costs a friend of mine. They drew up they're own papers, got them notarized, and paid the fee to have them processed.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:20 AM
Probably because it was convenient.

A little of that and a whole lot of my boy.

luv
06-10-2006, 02:20 AM
You tell me? :shrug:
You said it, not me.

Mecca
06-10-2006, 02:20 AM
I'm pretty sure it costs more than 35 dollars.

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 02:22 AM
You said it, not me.

OK....golf, guitar, singing, and tap dancing. I hate to break it to you.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:22 AM
I'm pretty sure it costs more than 35 dollars.

If there's no kids involved then, no, no it doesn't


If there are and they waited that long then they aren't bright.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:23 AM
I figured as much.

Yep, still in the frat party years

KCChiefsMan
06-10-2006, 02:24 AM
regarding the other guy involved in this...it becomes a whole different issue if you know him personally, especially if you considered him a friend at any point. But I think you mentioned that he was met on a chatroom...but I don't know. I'd hate to be in the situation that you are in and I feel for you man

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 02:25 AM
I'm pretty sure it costs more than 35 dollars.

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J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:26 AM
regarding the other guy involved in this...it becomes a whole different issue if you know him personally, especially if you considered him a friend at any point. But I think you mentioned that he was met on a chatroom...but I don't know. I'd hate to be in the situation that you are in and I feel for you man

It's all good, I'm confident.


I just don't want to screw this up.

Mecca
06-10-2006, 02:26 AM
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LOL....most myspace layouts are gay that's just how it is. I did have a bunch of Chiefs stuff up but it looked tacky as hell.

58-4ever
06-10-2006, 02:28 AM
LOL....most myspace layouts are gay that's just how it is. I did have a bunch of Chiefs stuff up but it looked tacky as hell.

Just giving you shit because you are bold enough to put the address on your sig.

Moooo
06-10-2006, 02:32 AM
It's all good, I'm confident.


I just don't want to screw this up.

As I said before in my previous posts... PATIENCE is the ultimate key to not screwing up. It may take you another year to get good enough info on the misses to have a great case for the kids. It may only take a week, but patience and stealthiness involving the dirt collecting is key.

Moooo

big nasty kcnut
06-10-2006, 02:35 AM
Well go to her messanger print her im chat also tape her when she in drunk mode finally ask the kids if she did anything to them.

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 02:35 AM
Yep, still in the frat party years

Don't get me wrong,i'm 43 going on 25,there's nights when i party like I was back in the frat but at least now i realize that if i act on certain things I'm taking a risk at getting an ass kicking and if it happens I can't point a finger anywhere but back atme.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:36 AM
Well go to her messanger print her im chat also tape her when she in drunk mode finally ask the kids if she did anything to them.


I'm really trying to keep the kids as far out of this as possible.

Rausch
06-10-2006, 02:41 AM
Me and the missus are fitting to be on splitsville again. I intend to move out next week.

Sorry to hear about that man.

Bitch kills 1/2 gallon a vodka a night.

Sweet singing Mary in a swimsuit...

[QUOTE=J Diddy]Works but doesn't pay bills and never cleans.

I feel ya'...

Wish me some luck, as I intend to try to get custody of my 4 year old son. Any lawyerly advice would be appreciated.

If this happens, from day one make your mind up to put yer' foot on her neck (as far as litigation goes) and no matter what happens DO NOT LET UP.

If it gets to the point you have to pick lawyers and hit the courts understand you have declared war.

I have 2 buddies that didn't want to get ugly, they just wanted to have $#it fair and do what's best for the kids. Their ex's didn't, they were out for blood. Both guys took elephant member to the turd-cutter. One of them is now fighting molestation charges because she knows his employer will can him for accusation alone (not that it's legal, but they do it) and she wants to ruin his name.

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 02:43 AM
Day after day
love turns grey
like the skin of a dying man

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:43 AM
Sorry to hear about that man.



If this happens, from day one make your mind up to put yer' foot on her neck (as far as litigation goes) and no matter what happens DO NOT LET UP.

If it gets to the point you have to pick lawyers and hit the courts understand you have declared war.

I have 2 buddies that didn't want to get ugly, they just wanted to have $#it fair and do what's best for the kids. Their ex's didn't, they were out for blood. Both guys took elephant member to the turd-cutter. One of them is now fighting molestation charges because she knows his employer will can him for accusation alone (not that it's legal, but they do it) and she wants to ruin his name.

Nah I got the lawyer picked out. Lady is ruthless as far as father's rights and if I hire her (which I probably will) she's unrelentless.

Rausch
06-10-2006, 02:44 AM
I'm really trying to keep the kids as far out of this as possible.

It's not.

If she's as rotted out on booze as you claim I doubt she's going to take the high ground. Keep in mind that while you might not be twisted enough to use your own children for a "get back" she might be...

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 02:45 AM
It's not.

If she's as rotted out on booze as you claim I doubt she's going to take the high ground. Keep in mind that while you might not be twisted enough to use your own children for a "get back" she might be...

good point

Nzoner
06-10-2006, 02:48 AM
good point


http://www.allfunpix.com/humor/pics3/bitch_goal.jpg

greg63
06-10-2006, 02:50 AM
Well bud; I'm never long on advice, but I do wish you luck. I hope things turn out well for you and your son.

Rausch
06-10-2006, 02:53 AM
Nah I got the lawyer picked out. Lady is ruthless as far as father's rights and if I hire her (which I probably will) she's unrelentless.

Relentless.

Don't feel bad, I'm going through the same thing. Since it went nasty the gunt I'm fighting decided to leave phone messages (with my daughter in the back ground) asking to end it and work things out.

Nein.

Due to her rights by Missouri law I haven't even communicated with my daughter since December 17th.

Because I didn't get a lawyer earlier. I have no one to blame but myself.

I won't make that mistake again. Buckwheats...

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 03:01 AM
Relentless.

Don't feel bad, I'm going through the same thing. Since it went nasty the gunt I'm fighting decided to leave phone messages (with my daughter in the back ground) asking to end it and work things out.

Nein.

Due to her rights by Missouri law I haven't even communicated with my daughter since December 17th.

Because I didn't get a lawyer earlier. I have no one to blame but myself.

I won't make that mistake again. Buckwheats...

Sorry to hear about that as well.

I'm gonna take your advice though.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 03:05 AM
http://www.allfunpix.com/humor/pics3/bitch_goal.jpg

ROFL

Mecca
06-10-2006, 03:15 AM
http://www.allfunpix.com/humor/pics3/bitch_goal.jpg

That picture would be alot better if it went lower.....

unlurking
06-10-2006, 07:52 AM
J Diddy,

http://www.fireyourwife.com/

Mecca,

I understand your point about the woman in the "committment" being more at fault, and actually agree. Personally, I wouldn't do it because of the baggage that would come along. Sex is not good enough a reason to get sucked into somebody else's ****-ups.

Fire Me Boy!
06-10-2006, 08:34 AM
I'm being serious, you may be better off waiting for something like this to happen again. See a lawyer to find outt he legality of a hidden camera, or seeing if there's a way to record internet chats...IF she's drinking she'll make mistakes.

Be a tiger. Lie in the brush and only strike when you know you can get the back of the neck. You see so many dumbasses wanting to break up with their ex, only to jump the gun and get owned in court. If you know you're right on this, get a lawyer and make sure the court will see exactly what you do.

Moooo
In Missouri and Kansas, only one party has to know someone is recording -- which is why TV stations can go do "hidden camera" investigations. THey know about the camera, meaning you don't have to.

However, if the person you are recording has a reasonable expectation of privacy, a la in their own home, you can't record them (even if you live in the same home).

nychief
06-10-2006, 08:42 AM
here is some advice:

DON'T TAKE LEGAL ADVICE FROM GUYS ON FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD.

milkman
06-10-2006, 08:46 AM
here is some advice:

DON'T TAKE LEGAL ADVICE FROM GUYS ON FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD.

Quite possibly the best advice ever!

I won't offer any advice, but hope things go well for you J.

Mr. Kotter
06-10-2006, 08:54 AM
Sorry to hear about your problems, JD. You gotta do what is right for you. Lots of people with good intentions have given you some advice here. Do yourself a favor though, and go see a lawyer in real life too. Best wishes.

J Diddy
06-10-2006, 09:13 AM
here is some advice:

DON'T TAKE LEGAL ADVICE FROM GUYS ON FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD.

First off a couple of guys here are lawyers and two wanting some info from people who are either going through it or have been through it.


It's not like I'm basing my life's strategy around this.

nychief
06-10-2006, 09:16 AM
First off a couple of guys here are lawyers and two wanting some info from people who are either going through it or have been through it.


It's not like I'm basing my life's strategy around this.


I am just saying. Would you take medical advice from a message board? This is your family you are talking about. My 2 cents. good luck.

jspchief
06-10-2006, 10:07 AM
If she really isn't doing anything to help with the bills, I'd use that as part of the custody case. Start keeping track of all the bills you pay, to show that you're the responsible parent.

You can try a "she's a drunk" smear campaign, but that's just going to turn into he said/she said. At least with the financial situation, you can provide proof that you are responsible.

JohnnyV13
06-10-2006, 10:28 AM
First of all,

The suggestions of finding a camera and evidence of infidelity are going ot be irrelevant in most states, because they have what is known as "no fault divorce".

Basically, this means the state isn't going to assign "fault" for the breakup, its just going to legally recognize that the marriage is now dissolved (and its not for some spurious legal benefit), and then get on to the business of dividing marital property and assigning child custody.

Now, dividing marital property is generally going to mean each party gets half of the debt and half of the assests accumulated DURING THE TIME OF THE MARRIAGE, each spouse will get to keep the seperate assests they brought TO the marriage. Courts, however, do not necessarily divide marital property right down the middle if either party can show that some other division is "fair" (most times this comes down to the custodial parent showing why they deserve more of the marital property).

In your case, the key issues aren't the infidelity and chatroom guys in terms of child custody, the big issue is the alcohol abuse. Is there any documented evidence? Has she seen a physician with regard to this problem? If so, you might subpoena the medical records. That will be objective evidence of her addiction problem. What you are then trying to do is alledge that she's an unfit parent.

If you haven't told her you intend to divorce her yet, you might suggest she seek help for her alcohol problem, (join AA) or some such, then you can use that fact against her in a custody battle. I know that's playing hardball, but despite laws that say the court should not be biased in terms of granting custody based upon sex, women generally are favored by the courts.

But, be aware that if you're going to play hardball, so will she once she knows the game is on. For example, you talked about slamming your fist through a window and violence against the chat room guy, guess what, now she will alledge you have abusive and violent tendancies and it would be beneficial for the children to protect them from you.

JohnnyV13
06-10-2006, 10:33 AM
Other evidence of the alcohol problem is: does she have a Credit card in her name? Because then you might be able to show that SHE purchased large quantities of booze and she presumably consumed it, simply from the credit card record.

jlscorpio
06-10-2006, 11:39 AM
Diddy, I went through basically EXACTLY the same shit that you are. People telling you to sit back and collect evidence don't have to live in your hell. I have. You're not gonna get out of this w/o financial baggage. In about 8 months I'm taking out an advance on my retirement and paying all of it off. I didn't fight for custody at the time because I diidn't want to put my kids through it at their age. I'm now on the verge of getting custody of my 10 y/o son. There are good women out there. I met one and have remarried. You deserve way better. A boozing slut is the worst excuse for a wife on earth. Cut your losses and move on.

J Diddy
06-11-2006, 02:09 AM
Other evidence of the alcohol problem is: does she have a Credit card in her name? Because then you might be able to show that SHE purchased large quantities of booze and she presumably consumed it, simply from the credit card record.

She waits tables and pays strictly with cash.

Halfcan
06-11-2006, 02:24 AM
Good luck, you are better off!

J Diddy
06-11-2006, 02:25 AM
Good luck, you are better off!

Thanks and agreed.

Logical
06-11-2006, 02:35 AM
I have no advice other than to wish you the best result possible and hope you get custody.

J Diddy
06-11-2006, 03:10 AM
I have no advice other than to wish you the best result possible and hope you get custody.


Thanks.

I'm gonna give it hell.

Monkeylook4food
06-11-2006, 07:24 AM
I just got custody of my daughters 4 days ago. You need to document and have reliable witnesses. You need to have patience and some money doesn't hurt.

Do NOT move out of the house without your son. If she moves out, do NOT let her take your son. You should get a lawyer ASAP. Do not tell her about the lawyer, he will advise you on what to do.

You are going to have a very difficult time with the whole 100 stitches, violent episode from your past. For your sake, I hope it is the only violence you've propagated.

chiefs4me
06-11-2006, 06:24 PM
I just got custody of my daughters 4 days ago. You need to document and have reliable witnesses. You need to have patience and some money doesn't hurt.

Do NOT move out of the house without your son. If she moves out, do NOT let her take your son. You should get a lawyer ASAP. Do not tell her about the lawyer, he will advise you on what to do.

You are going to have a very difficult time with the whole 100 stitches, violent episode from your past. For your sake, I hope it is the only violence you've propagated.








You did??? Well congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!