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Count Zarth
06-13-2006, 06:29 AM
Teacher, who posted nude portraits online, can appeal decision to begin termination proceedings.

By Raven L. Hill
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Tuesday, June 13, 2006

An Austin High School art teacher who posed partially nude in photographs posted on the Web could soon be out of a job after the school board voted Monday to begin termination proceedings.

The teacher, Tamara Hoover, 29, has been on paid administrative leave since May 19 because "inappropriate material" was posted on a Web site, according to the district. A student notified school officials about the site's content, namely several portraits that show Hoover nude from the waist up.

Austin High School art teacher Tamara Hoover says the photos of her posted online are 'artistic photography,' not pornography. This photo was among those on a Flickr Web site, a site some students looked at

The district's attorney, Mel Waxler, said he could not comment, citing personnel and legal concerns.

Hoover defended her actions in a blog by saying that the pictures are not pornography but "artistic photography" and that she neither knew nor had any control over which photographs were posted by the photographer.

The school district's policies regarding employee behavior include a moral turpitude clause that prohibits "base, vile, or depraved acts that are intended to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of the actor."

Hoover may appeal the board's decision, with the board making a final decision in August.

Although Hoover has declined commenting on the matter, she protested the district's decision on her blog entry dated June 9. "They are firing me for pictures of me being on a website . . . and claiming the website is pornographic," Hoover wrote. "The district isn't even asking to hear my side."

Louis Malfaro, president of Education Austin, a 4,000-member group that represents teachers and staff members, said he thought the district's handling of the matter was inappropriate.

"Teachers need to be cautious because they are held to a higher standard," he said. "However, I think it's outrageous the way Tamara has been treated, and I'm glad she has herself a good lawyer," he said. "You can walk into most art galleries in this town and see the kind of artwork that was depicted on that Web site."

The pictures hundreds of photos of Hoover posing clothed and partially nude, alone and in company were posted on a photo-sharing Web site that does not require a password.

"I never told kids to 'go see me' at the web site," she wrote.

The blog also contains Hoover's account of the events leading up to her removal:

"That morning a fellow teacher was talking poorly about me to her class. A student said, 'Well, if you really dont like Ms. Hoover, you should check out the website she is on.' . . . So she told the student to pull it up. He did so in front of a class full of students."

Hoover said the district is pursuing criminal charges and determined that she was an ineffective teacher.

"I have been recognized by the board year after year (2 weeks before May 19 board recognized me again) for outstanding achievments as an art teacher," she wrote. "A report came back from the investigation saying that I am well liked on my campus and have a good reputation of being a caring teacher who tries to help each student find their own artistic voice."

Hoover was recognized during a May 8 school board meeting after one of her students won first place in a statewide competition. Another student, who did not give a name, posted an encouraging message Hoover's personal Web page.

"You do not deserve this," the student wrote. "It was my grandma's dying wish that I did something in the arts. . . . I feel like me being in your class would've made her very happy, and I know it made me very happy."

Hoover has taught at the Central Austin school since 2000.

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Count Zarth
06-13-2006, 06:32 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/celestadanger/sets/294392/

chagrin
06-13-2006, 06:38 AM
I don't know what to think, on one hand I'm thinking, yeah art is good and can have a great influence on some kids...and on the other hand I'm thinking, WTF is going on with teachers today?

Count Zarth
06-13-2006, 06:40 AM
I'm sorry I posted that flickr link...she's gross. Please don't click.

Bob Dole
06-13-2006, 06:44 AM
First, there's not anything even remotely pornagraphic about any of the photos in that gallery.

Second, that's a really rough looking 29 year-old woman.

RedandGold
06-13-2006, 06:46 AM
First, there's not anything even remotely pornagraphic about any of the photos in that gallery.

Second, that's a really rough looking 29 year-old woman.

I was thinking the exact same thing regarding her "mileage". I would have guessed her to be closer to 39 than 29.

Count Zarth
06-13-2006, 06:51 AM
I'm sorry. I should really be banned for the day.

chagrin
06-13-2006, 06:52 AM
First, there's not anything even remotely pornagraphic about any of the photos in that gallery.

Second, that's a really rough looking 29 year-old woman.


I wrote my post without even clicking the link - I prejudged, I'm so ashamed

4th and Long
06-13-2006, 06:54 AM
Good Lord, Clayton. A warning would have been nice. Yuck.
I'm sorry. I should really be banned for the day.
I won't go that far but at least review the photos before you drop a link.

I'm going to the bathroom and pour Clorox in my eyes now.

Bob Dole
06-13-2006, 06:55 AM
Third, Bob Dole apparently can't spell worth a crap before he's had 6 cups of coffee.

KCTitus
06-13-2006, 07:03 AM
First, there's not anything even remotely pornagraphic about any of the photos in that gallery.

Second, that's a really rough looking 29 year-old woman.

I thought she looked like a KC Chiefs Cheerleader...

StcChief
06-13-2006, 07:27 AM
I thought she looked like a KC Chiefs Cheerleader...
ROFL

Bootlegged
06-13-2006, 07:37 AM
What a great pair of tits.

Donger
06-13-2006, 07:43 AM
There are about 1,000,000 finer breasts in Austin. SHe should be fired for that alone. That reminds me, I'm going to be there soon.

jidar
06-13-2006, 07:50 AM
Those photos aren't even remotely pornographic, they're obviously art. An art teacher posing for artistic photos... is going to be fired.

*sigh*

How stupid.

ck_IN
06-13-2006, 07:51 AM
<i>What a great pair of tits.</i>

You are obviously a deprived man.

I find it interesting that geography teachers can talk all kinds of political trash in class but an art teacher poses for some semi-nude shots and all hell breaks loose.

Hell these kids can go to a pg-13 movie and see worse then this. Give it a rest Austin.

InChiefsHell
06-13-2006, 08:07 AM
Just....yech. I don't see what the big deal is, except that now that her students have seen how nasty she looks naked, they might not have any respect for her...

Rain Man
06-13-2006, 08:36 AM
Her boyfriend isn't a great photographer. Sorry, but it had to be said.

On the "teacher as nude" subject, I'm torn.

Reasons why this should be no big deal:

1. It's the 21st century.
2. Those pictures aren't pornographic.
3. In about ten seconds, kids can get 8 zillion pictures that are far more graphic or questionable.
4. She teaches art. These are art. Not good art, but art.

Reasons why this shouldn't be allowed:

1. More so than regular porn, kids will pass these around and get tittilated and distracted by them, because it's someone they know.
2. If you're a high school teacher, you should know that people are very conservative when it comes to high school teachers and nudity.

It seems to me that she shouldn't be fired for it, but she should have been smart enough to recognize that nude model and teacher are not compatible careers in contemporary American society. She should have to pick which one to drop.

Bob Dole
06-13-2006, 08:45 AM
It seems to me that she shouldn't be fired for it, but she should have been smart enough to recognize that nude model and teacher are not compatible careers in contemporary American society. She should have to pick which one to drop.

Bob Dole needs to dig out the old nude studies from college art classes and see if he can find the models and get them fired.

Rain Man
06-13-2006, 08:48 AM
Bob Dole needs to dig out the old nude studies from college art classes and see if he can find the models and get them fired.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but it seems like teachers are more likely to get in trouble over these types of things than folks in other professions. I'm presuming that's because of parents kicking up a fuss.

Bootlegged
06-13-2006, 08:53 AM
<i>What a great pair of tits.</i>

You are obviously a deprived man.

I find it interesting that geography teachers can talk all kinds of political trash in class but an art teacher poses for some semi-nude shots and all hell breaks loose.

Hell these kids can go to a pg-13 movie and see worse then this. Give it a rest Austin.


Sarcasm..

She looks as if she was stung by two low-powered mosquitos.

Bob Dole
06-13-2006, 09:00 AM
I'm not saying I agree with it.

Yes you are.

Rain Man
06-13-2006, 09:01 AM
Yes you are.

No, I'm not.

Bob Dole
06-13-2006, 09:03 AM
No, I'm not.

Pretty sure you were.

Bootlegged
06-13-2006, 09:03 AM
Pretty sure you were.


Yes, he was. RainMan loves 19 year old flat chested women.

Donger
06-13-2006, 09:05 AM
Yes you are.

It seems to me that she shouldn't be fired for it

Predarat
06-13-2006, 09:09 AM
I don't know if i'd hit it or not. Of course i'd say I wouldn't but I gotta admit, I've hit a lot worse with enough booze down me. At least its enjoyable at the time and if you can get out of the room before your too sober, nobodys the wiser. Unless they remember it and are one of those damn Fatal Attraction bitches.

BigMeatballDave
06-13-2006, 09:14 AM
Second, that's a really rough looking 29 year-old woman.Jeez. That is what I thought. Looks more like 49...

Bob Dole
06-13-2006, 09:18 AM
Start your own argument, Donger.

Donger
06-13-2006, 09:19 AM
Start your own argument, Donger.

ROFL

Rain Man
06-13-2006, 09:20 AM
No, I wasn't.

(Just to clarify, which position am I taking? I've forgotten.)

Donger
06-13-2006, 09:23 AM
No, I wasn't.

(Just to clarify, which position am I taking? I've forgotten.)

You were defending yourself against accusations from the good Senator from Kansas that you drilled peep holes in the girls locker room in high school.

Bootlegged
06-13-2006, 09:25 AM
No, I wasn't.

(Just to clarify, which position am I taking? I've forgotten.)

You are taking the pro-dendrophiliac position.

Demonpenz
06-13-2006, 09:27 AM
We get it already you like carrie underwood. Stop posting her pics.

Rain Man
06-13-2006, 09:29 AM
Huh. I thought I was arguing about whether autistic art teachers should be feared.

jidar
06-13-2006, 09:35 AM
Huh. I thought I was arguing about whether autistic art teachers should be feared.


And loathed. If we don't do something soon, the autistic teachers will take over the world.

OnTheWarpath58
06-13-2006, 11:03 AM
Between these and the Heather McCartney pics, we're oh-for-two.

Someone quick, post a hottie......

NOT CARRIE UNDERWOOD, GOCHIEFS.

Predarat
06-13-2006, 11:10 AM
Between these and the Heather McCartney pics, we're oh-for-two.

Someone quick, post a hottie......

NOT CARRIE UNDERWOOD, GOCHIEFS.
Brooke, a hot cheerleader for the Tennessee Titans. As Tweeder in Varsity Blues said "She just has that I just fell out of a tree and want to s*** your d*** look."
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Predarat5/brooke7.jpg
:p :drool:

OnTheWarpath58
06-13-2006, 11:12 AM
Brooke, a hot cheerleader for the Tennessee Titans. As Tweeder in Varsity Blue said "She just has that I just fell out of a tree and want to s*** your d*** look."
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Predarat5/brooke7.jpg

Thank you......

Inspector
06-13-2006, 11:39 AM
She'll play hell getting one of those 7th graders to **** her now.

vailpass
06-13-2006, 11:55 AM
Rode hard and put away wet.

BIG_DADDY
06-13-2006, 12:05 PM
Nothing that ugly is art. Fire her ass.

ChiefsFanatic
06-13-2006, 12:08 PM
I'm sorry I posted that flickr link...she's gross. Please don't click.

Damn you. My eyes are burning.

Bob Dole
06-13-2006, 12:51 PM
Bob Dole is a little surprised that none of you rocket scientists picked up on the fact that her boyfriend is actually her girlfriend. :)

http://www.celestadanger.com/WORDS_tamara_3.html

Fire Me Boy!
06-13-2006, 04:53 PM
OK, I'm gonna be a little like Rainman here (not Rain Man the CP poster, Rainman -- like Dustin Hoffman.

Definitely not art. Definitely not good art. Definitely looks older than 29.