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chagrin
06-20-2006, 11:33 AM
Feel his pain - There are so many parts of this that piss me off, but whatever.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060619/ap_on_re_mi_ea/myspace_mideast


By MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH and STEVEN GUTKIN, Associated Press Writers
Mon Jun 19, 4:17 PM ET



JERICHO, West Bank - The Palestinian man who had an Internet romance with a 16-year-old Michigan girl is a music-loving computer buff who says he loves the teen and is heartbroken she was sent home.

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Abdullah Jimzawi, a 20-year-old high school dropout who lives with his parents in Jericho, said he and Katherine Lester had planned to marry and she intended to convert to Islam.

Lester was en route to Tel Aviv airport when she was intercepted in Amman, Jordan, by U.S. authorities who seized her passport and put her on a flight back to the United States.

The couple still speak to each other at least five hours a day via Internet phone calls, said Jimzawi, a shy soft-spoken young man with close-cropped hair and a two-day beard.

"We love the same things, the same songs and we have similar dreams. I fell in love with her because she is innocent and goodhearted. We found ourselves to be soul mates," he told The Associated Press in an interview in Jericho, a town of 17,000 that is largely immune from the violence plaguing the rest of the West Bank.

Jimzawi and Lester met through MySpace.com, a social networking Web site whose popularity with teenagers has raised concerns among U.S. authorities, with scattered accounts of sexual predators targeting minors on the site.

Jimzawi, who works in his father's business delivering goods to minimarkets, said his love for Lester is pure. Had she made it to Jericho, he said, she would have shared his sister's bedroom.

The couple would have walked together through the tree-lined streets of Jericho, he said, and he and Lester would have celebrated her 17th birthday Wednesday.

"When I realized she wasn't coming, I felt my whole world collapse," he said in the interview Sunday at his family's home. "My tears didn't stop and I couldn't sleep for three days."

Lester, who boarded a flight to Israel after slipping out of her mother's house in Gilford, Mich., has not spoken to reporters since returning to the United States on June 9. She has taken refuge at an undisclosed location with her father to escape the media frenzy.

Lester's older sister, Mary, said Monday she believes Jimzawi loves her sister and wanted to marry her. But, she said, she can't understand why he arranged for the teen to travel to the Middle East.

"If you love this girl like you say you do, then why don't you come up here?" Mary Lester asked.

She said her sister also denied promising to convert to Islam, saying that was a lie made up by the media. (no mention if it was forced upon the 16 year old girl)



"I don't think she realizes how serious this is," Mary Lester said. "We've all tried talking to her, but talking to a 16-year-old is like trying to bend steel."

Jimzawi was initially reluctant to talk to the media because of what he said was unfair treatment following Lester's ill-fated trip. However, he eventually agreed to be photographed in shorts and sandals, showing AP reporters the computer on which he said he met Lester eight months ago.

Chickens roamed the front yard outside his middle-class home, which has a small swimming pool, a large porch with a table and many nearby date palms.

In a sitting room with pink curtains, Jimzawi clicked his computer mouse to play a song from Staind, one of his favorite heavy metal bands. Six framed posters of Quranic verses and Islamic prayers adorned the walls, including one depicting the 99 names of God.

Jimzawi, the second of five children, said he explained to Lester that she should convert to Islam to marry him.

"She said, 'No problem because I love you and I love your religion,'" he said.

Jimzawi's mother, Sana, said Lester intended to sign a marriage contract in Jericho. Jimzawi said the couple planned to wait for Lester to turn 18 before getting married.

Jimzawi said he had little interest in going to the U.S. However, 19-year-old Tarek Ali, who said he was Jimzawi's friend, said Jimzawi "wanted to take the SAT exam and study computer engineering in the U.S. That is his dream."

Mahmoud Bali, the owner of a Jericho Internet cafe where Jimzawi once worked, said the young man spent 10 hours a day in Internet chat rooms or listening to music on the Web.

"I can describe him as a dreamer and romantic person," Bali said. "He loves songs and to chat with people outside of the country and doesn't like to talk to people here."

"Most of the young people who come to my Net cafe, like Abdullah, are people obsessed with Western life and the opportunities there. They like freedom, dancing, listening to music, those things that you can't do here in Palestine, particularly in Jericho."

Jimzawi said his next step will be to apply for a visa to visit Lester.

His mother said she was sorry about the pain Lester's mother must have gone through when her daughter left. "She had the right to be worried," she said.

But she insisted she and Abdullah had the girl's best interests at heart.
I wonder if that included clipping off her clit.

"He met a lot of girls on the Internet, but he loves her and he made everyone in the family love her," she said.

JBucc
06-20-2006, 11:35 AM
Kids are dumb

58-4ever
06-20-2006, 11:39 AM
Another article that says beware of myspace. What a surprise.

bogie
06-20-2006, 11:40 AM
I'm not thrilled with the popularity of MySpace.

KILLER_CLOWN
06-20-2006, 11:41 AM
Gee i can understand why he wouldn't come here, ya know being arrested for kidnapping a 16 year old girl and maybe worse. Sounds like a stable relationship to me, and the ACLU could have hired it's finest to defend him.

58-4ever
06-20-2006, 11:44 AM
I'm not thrilled with the popularity of MySpace.

But there's nothing you can do about it.
:p What bothers you about it? I have found it to be a very useful tool to keep in touch with people that I wouldn't otherwise. Plus, it tends to be a great networking tool.

Pants
06-20-2006, 11:44 AM
But, she said, she can't understand why he arranged for the teen to travel to the Middle East.

"If you love this girl like you say you do, then why don't you come up here?" Mary Lester asked.



Yeah, because it's very easy for a palestinian to come visit the United States.

ROFL, don't be retarded.

A. He will NEVER get a visa.
B. Even if he did, he wouldn't be able to afford the tickets.

This is such a non issue, why are people so concerned/pissed off over this? Get a f***ing life.

alpha_omega
06-20-2006, 11:44 AM
Stupid girl!

58-4ever
06-20-2006, 11:45 AM
Yeah, because it's very easy for a palestinian to come visit the United States.

ROFL, don't be retarded.

A. He will NEVER get a visa.
B. Even if he did, he wouldn't be able to afford the tickets.

This is such a non issue, why are people so concerned/pissed off over this? Get a f***ing life.

I agree.

KILLER_CLOWN
06-20-2006, 11:47 AM
Yeah, because it's very easy for a palestinian to come visit the United States.

ROFL, don't be retarded.

A. He will NEVER get a visa.
B. Even if he did, he wouldn't be able to afford the tickets.

This is such a non issue, why are people so concerned/pissed off over this? Get a f***ing life.

That's the issue? Let us know if you had a 16 year old daughter in the same situation if you would feel the same way.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 11:48 AM
I'm trying to figure out what this guy did wrong?

Pants
06-20-2006, 11:50 AM
That's the issue? Let us know if you had a 16 year old daughter in the same situation if you would feel the same way.

I'd be pissed at myself for raising a dumbshit daughter. Not at some palestinian dude. The issue here is people blaming the dude when he didn't do anything bad.

mlyonsd
06-20-2006, 11:51 AM
I'm trying to figure out what this guy did wrong?

I'm guessing since he's 20 and she was 16 at the time had something to do with it.

Especially when he coherced her into going there, instead of him coming here where we have laws to protect young people to some degree.

KILLER_CLOWN
06-20-2006, 11:54 AM
I'd be pissed at myself for raising a dumbshit daughter. Not at some palestinian dude. The issue here is people blaming the dude when he didn't do anything bad.

Lots of 16 year old girls in the country are naive, it's possible she thought it was cool to chat with someone from another part of the world and one thing lead to another. I don't think she was truly capable of making a GREAT DECISION at 16, but that's just me i guess, carry on.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 11:55 AM
I'm guessing since he's 20 and she was 16 at the time had something to do with it.

Especially when he coherced her into going there, instead of him coming here where we have laws to protect young people to some degree.
Meh. 4 years difference isn't that big of a deal.

I wonder how the 16 year old girl had the financial means of getting a plane ticket to Tel Aviv, and then reserving her own plane ticket, and leaving the country, all without her parents knowing.

Halfcan
06-20-2006, 12:01 PM
The dude is a potential child molester and should be put in jail.

Pants
06-20-2006, 12:04 PM
The dude is a potential child molester and should be put in jail.

Well, you're a f***ing moron and should be put to sleep. For society's sake.

chagrin
06-20-2006, 12:04 PM
Yeah, because it's very easy for a palestinian to come visit the United States.

ROFL, don't be retarded.

A. He will NEVER get a visa.
B. Even if he did, he wouldn't be able to afford the tickets.

This is such a non issue, why are people so concerned/pissed off over this? Get a f***ing life.

I forgot how knowledgable you are, just so you know - I have a very close friend who is Iranian, and he has successfully brought over, his mom and his sister from Iran to America - it may be difficult, but it isn't impossible.

And yes, the parents obviously need to share some of the blame for not knowing how she did all that shit to leave in the first place.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 12:05 PM
I forgot how knowledgable you are, just so you know - I have a very close friend who is Iranian, and he has successfully brought over, his mom and his sister from Iran to America - it may be difficult, but it isn't impossible.

And yes, the parents obviously need to share some of the blame for not knowing how she did all that shit to leave in the first place.
Metrolike is Iranian.

Well, close enough.

mlyonsd
06-20-2006, 12:07 PM
Meh. 4 years difference isn't that big of a deal.

I wonder how the 16 year old girl had the financial means of getting a plane ticket to Tel Aviv, and then reserving her own plane ticket, and leaving the country, all without her parents knowing.

Funny thing is she tricked her parents into getting a passport.

Parents, "What do you need a passport for?"

Girl, "Cause all the kids at the mall have one."

Parents, "Oh, OK."

chagrin
06-20-2006, 12:08 PM
Metrolike is Iranian.

Well, close enough.

Then that explains his attitude, but I still don't agree with him


And trying to make a kid sign a marriage contract, is ridiculous. Don't give me "it's their culture" I don't care - she may be stupid, and her parents probably don't have it upstairs, but it is still a very risky thing to do.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 12:09 PM
Then that explains his attitude, but I still don't agree with him
Would your opinion be different if this kid was living in England, and was Jewish?

Chinese, and Buddhist?

Kerberos
06-20-2006, 12:11 PM
I bet she's FAT.

Can't find anyone where she lives to give her attention so she was going where the attention was coming from. Real big mystery :rolleyes:


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chagrin
06-20-2006, 12:13 PM
Would your opinion be different if this kid was living in England, and was Jewish?

Chinese, and Buddhist?


Saul - No, it wouldn't. One thing about me you don't know, I am consistent and I don't select my opinions based on race and religion. This whole thing about leaving the country to conver to a religion, which even if you want to defend it, raises red flags all over the place in regards to how it's members treat women (and don't give me morman, or whatever else, it's all the same shit - taking freedoms away from a woman, or a girl, just because she is a female, is wrong)

bogie
06-20-2006, 12:14 PM
But there's nothing you can do about it.
:p What bothers you about it? I have found it to be a very useful tool to keep in touch with people that I wouldn't otherwise. Plus, it tends to be a great networking tool.

I'm not a member, so I can't speak much about it. With the limited information I have, it looks like another chance for sexual freaks to get to my child.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 12:15 PM
Saul - No, it wouldn't. One thing about me you don't know, I am consistent and I don't select my opinions based on race and religion. This whole thing about leaving the country to conver to a religion, which even if you want to defend it, raises red flags all over the place in regards to how it's members treat women (and don't give me morman, or whatever else, it's all the same shit - taking freedoms away from a woman, or a girl, just because she is a female, is wrong)
If she was willing to do it, why is there a problem?

Kerberos
06-20-2006, 12:18 PM
If she was willing to do it, why is there a problem?

As much as I believe in FREE WILL I think that soliciting a 16 year old girl that has some issues is wrong. If she was 18 then she is legally an adult in OUR country and can do as she wishes. Until then she is subject to her parents WILL!

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chagrin
06-20-2006, 12:18 PM
If she was willing to do it, why is there a problem?

Because I guess I am one of the few who don't give a 16 year old the credibility, to make life decisions like this - via a computer on top of it.

Pants
06-20-2006, 12:26 PM
I forgot how knowledgable you are, just so you know - I have a very close friend who is Iranian, and he has successfully brought over, his mom and his sister from Iran to America - it may be difficult, but it isn't impossible.

And yes, the parents obviously need to share some of the blame for not knowing how she did all that shit to leave in the first place.

Yeah, because that's the same... I know people who have their parents come over every year. My mom's sister came over the other summer. Bringing relatives is hard, you have to provide proof you can support them and you become responsible for them and their leave.

You can't, however, have your best friend come over, or even a relative outside your immediate family.

That dude would have no chance of getting in unless he was hired by a company in the US who could provide him with a temporary work visa or he got accepted into a US university, which would provide him with a student visa.

But even that's not the issue, I was just trying to show some less informed people how hard it is for a non-western european to get into US.

Now, the real issue is people blaming the dude when he did nothing wrong. The people you should be pissed at are the parents who raised a dumbshit daughter and let this whole thing slip.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 12:38 PM
As much as I believe in FREE WILL I think that soliciting a 16 year old girl that has some issues is wrong. If she was 18 then she is legally an adult in OUR country and can do as she wishes. Until then she is subject to her parents WILL!

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Obviously she is not. If she were subject to her parents will, she would not have made it over there in the first place.

I really don't find too much difference in the mindset of a 16 year old and an 18 year old. I also really doubt this country would miss that young ladies contribution to society.

chagrin
06-20-2006, 12:39 PM
Now, the real issue is people blaming the dude when he did nothing wrong. The people you should be pissed at are the parents who raised a dumbshit daughter and let this whole thing slip.


Dude, I am, I think they should be educated on how to take care. He does have to take some blame though, even though rxrider wrote it 100,000 freaking times I agree that soliciting a 16 year old is wrong, even if you're 20. But like I say, I'm old fashioned.

I'm sorry, but when I read shit like "a 16 year old girl leaving the country without her parents knowledge...converting to Islam and signing a marriage contract..." really sets me off.

That's what pissed me off. I mean really, I have no problem with someone being in love for pete's sake.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 12:42 PM
Because I guess I am one of the few who don't give a 16 year old the credibility, to make life decisions like this - via a computer on top of it.
So in 2 years, she will all of a sudden gain this credibility? She's in love, and she made a poor decision, but yet all of a sudden the guy is to blame? I doubt he lured her there with promises of riches, support, or gifts. He is a 20 year old living in his parents basement. Sounds like they were actually in love, or they thought they were.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 12:43 PM
Dude, I am, I think they should be educated on how to take care. He does have to take some blame though, even though rxrider wrote it 100,000 freaking times I agree that soliciting a 16 year old is wrong, even if you're 20. But like I say, I'm old fashioned.

I'm sorry, but when I read shit like "a 16 year old girl leaving the country without her parents knowledge...converting to Islam and signing a marriage contract..." really sets me off.

That's what pissed me off. I mean really, I have no problem with someone being in love for pete's sake.
My mother did all that (sans leaving the country part) when she married my Father. Why is it such a big deal?

chagrin
06-20-2006, 12:47 PM
So in 2 years, she will all of a sudden gain this credibility? She's in love, and she made a poor decision, but yet all of a sudden the guy is to blame? I doubt he lured her there with promises of riches, support, or gifts. He is a 20 year old living in his parents basement. Sounds like they were actually in love, or they thought they were.

Hold on now, I never said at 18 she gains credibility, I simply don't believe that this little kid who lives in a small area in the thumb of Michigan (I know the area - it is very isolated) knew what she was doing.

To you, the story obviously smells like "love" to me it smells like shit, I don't believe it and I fear for her welfare being over there - that's how I see it.

chagrin
06-20-2006, 12:48 PM
My mother did all that (sans leaving the country part) when she married my Father. Why is it such a big deal?

Saul, I am not trying to insult your family, but I have to be able to exoress my diagreement when I feel it, wouldn't you agree?

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 12:49 PM
Hold on now, I never said at 18 she gains credibility, I simply don't believe that this little kid who lives in a small area in the thumb of Michigan (I know the area - it is very isolated) knew what she was doing.

To you, the story obviously smells like "love" to me it smells like shit, I don't believe it and I fear for her welfare being over there - that's how I see it.
Why else would he want her over there if he did not love her?

I don't fear for her welfare "over there" - I don't know her.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 12:50 PM
Saul, I am not trying to insult your family, but I have to be able to exoress my diagreement when I feel it, wouldn't you agree?
That's fine and dandy.

chagrin
06-20-2006, 12:57 PM
Why else would he want her over there if he did not love her?

I don't fear for her welfare "over there" - I don't know her.

I wrote "over there" because I was blanking out on the ciry in Israel where she was going, geesh.

The answer I have for your question is this:

Dude, why do control freaks bring chicks over here from Russia and abuse them? Figure it out and you might have your answer.

Saulbadguy
06-20-2006, 01:13 PM
I wrote "over there" because I was blanking out on the ciry in Israel where she was going, geesh.

The answer I have for your question is this:

Dude, why do control freaks bring chicks over here from Russia and abuse them? Figure it out and you might have your answer.
Does that happen? I was not aware of that.

DaneMcCloud
06-20-2006, 01:27 PM
Well, you're a f***ing moron and should be put to sleep. For society's sake.

Then how would we ever remember that Rush existed?

Lzen
06-20-2006, 01:42 PM
Funny thing is she tricked her parents into getting a passport.

Parents, "What do you need a passport for?"

Girl, "Cause all the kids at the mall have one."

Parents, "Oh, OK."

Now that was damn funny. ROFL

Lzen
06-20-2006, 01:54 PM
But she insisted she and Abdullah had the girl's best interests at heart.
I wonder if that included clipping off her clit.

"He met a lot of girls on the Internet, but he loves her and he made everyone in the family love her," she said.


Ok, WTF? I don't think that was part of the yahoo article. ROFL

Now why would they do that? Is that part of their culture?

chagrin
06-20-2006, 02:00 PM
I don't know for sure, I'vre heard it was done in some cultures yes - but I was just being a prick

jspchief
06-20-2006, 02:06 PM
I don't think you'll find many parents that would be too excited about their 16 yr old child taking off to a different country with a vastly different culture in the name of love.

I don't doubt that both the girl and the boy felt that they were truly in love, but I also recognize that young relationships fail more often than they succeed.

If it really is love, they can stay in touch for the next two years until she's an adult. Two years is a small chunk of "the rest of your life".