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BigRock
06-22-2006, 08:53 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/dr_z/06/22/football/index.html

From Josh of K.C. "With a healthy Kyle Turley anchoring the Chiefs' RT spot, does this give the Chiefs the greatest starting offensive line of all time?"

Oh, I'd rate it about 30th. Let's look at the Packers of the '60's, for instance. LT Skoronski, Pro Bowl. LG, Thurston, All-Pro. C, Jim Ringo, Hall of Fame. RG Kramer, Hall of Fame Finalist. RT Gregg, Hall of Fame and on the NFL's All-time team.

I don't think it's the greatest of all time, but 30th? I just sent a question asking him to name 29 that were better... I don't expect that one to make any future mailbag columns.

Moooo
06-22-2006, 08:55 PM
I can't think of very many at all. I mean, certain Steeler teams, and the Electric Company, but 30th?

The real question is whether or not you'd rate them 1st all time Chiefs... I mean, we had a crazy good line 10 years ago, is this one better?

Moooo

listopencil
06-22-2006, 09:06 PM
I can think of two off the top of my head.

FAX
06-22-2006, 09:08 PM
Who is this Z guy? Zorro? Zardoz? Zipper?

I think his name is like 26th or something.

FAX

Cochise
06-22-2006, 09:09 PM
We had 2 or 3 years where they just dominated every game. They can't stay on top forever. People are aging. I don't expect the line to be a weakness, but eventually we aren't going to be able to just impose our will on the defense from wire to wire.

NaptownChief
06-22-2006, 09:10 PM
I can think of two off the top of my head.


Nah, that was just those "great" RB's like Orlandis Gary and Quinten G. that made them look so good. :D

DaneMcCloud
06-22-2006, 09:13 PM
If the Chiefs actually WIN a Super Bowl, I'm sure this line will be looked upon with greater admiration.

Basileus777
06-22-2006, 09:16 PM
We had 2 or 3 years where they just dominated every game. They can't stay on top forever. People are aging. I don't expect the line to be a weakness, but eventually we aren't going to be able to just impose our will on the defense from wire to wire.

In 2003 with Tait was the high point of this oline. That line was one of the best in NFL history. I would say that it was better than 30.

SNR
06-22-2006, 10:04 PM
This year's Oline isn't even the best in Chiefs history.

It's hard to find guys better than Rudnay and Alt. And with this "current" line, 2003 was a much better year than what we have now

FAX
06-22-2006, 10:08 PM
This year's Oline isn't even the best in Chiefs history.

It's hard to find guys better than Rudnay and Alt. And with this "current" line, 2003 was a much better year than what we have now

Excellent point, Mr. SNR. That means that, following Zzzzz's logic, the Chiefs would have probably 5 or 6 olines in the all time top 30 list.

FAX

Valiant
06-22-2006, 10:11 PM
You cannot even count this team yet until they finish the year.. Hopefully with a superbowl championship and 200+ rushing game average.. Then we will decide...

stevieray
06-22-2006, 10:39 PM
Interesting ,considering the Oline and Larry Johnson produced more in nine games than ever before.

Valiant
06-22-2006, 10:42 PM
Interesting ,considering the Oline and Larry Johnson produced more in nine games than ever before.


Hey you ready to play some more football and me lay the beatdown again on you guys??? :)

BucEyedPea
06-22-2006, 10:53 PM
Chief's O-line I've always thought the past several years is one of the top ones. Calling #30 is ridiculous.

Mecca
06-22-2006, 11:06 PM
Considering Dr. Z is 500 years old he'll never say anything going on today is better than something that happened in the 1960's.

HemiEd
06-23-2006, 03:08 AM
East Coast Bias.

OldTownChief
06-23-2006, 05:24 AM
30th my ass. This guy knows nothing.

Inspector
06-23-2006, 05:29 AM
He probably was counting in reverse order.

The worst = 1, the very lowest rating...

..and so on.

Yeah, that's what I'm going to tell myself. The world is such a pretty place....

Amnorix
06-23-2006, 06:14 AM
If the Chiefs actually WIN a Super Bowl, I'm sure this line will be looked upon with greater admiration.


Yes, sadly that's the truth. Look at the Redskins' Hogs. They won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QBs, and spent half that time at least in a division that was commonly regarded as the best in football, and involving some of the absolute best defenses of that era -- the Parcells/Belichick 2 time SB-winning Giants and at the tail end they had Buddy Ryan's Iggles, I believe.

Were they better? I don't know if they were man-for-man, but when you've got the 3 SBs on the resume, then the nod goes to them I think.