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Der Flöprer
06-23-2006, 11:43 AM
If you are into the hip hop culture this movie is for you. If you're hoping to find an obscure movie with Dave where you'll laugh your ass off, don't waste your time or money renting this movie. This is pretty much about Dave putting together this hip hop festival that he is calling a block party. There are some funny parts to it. The couple with the Angel house is hilarious. Other than that, it was a huge waste of time. I was very dissapointed.

jcroft
06-23-2006, 11:48 AM
Loved it. Some great artists on it: Common, Mos Def, The Roots, Lauryn Hill. Loved it.

Der Flöprer
06-23-2006, 11:51 AM
Loved it. Some great artists on it: Common, Mos Def, The Roots, Lauryn Hill. Loved it.



Would you suggest it to someone who has zero interest in hip hop?

jAZ
06-23-2006, 11:52 AM
I'm not "into the hip hop culture" at all, but I thought it was a really good movie.

jcroft
06-23-2006, 11:53 AM
Would you suggest it to someone who has zero interest in hip hop?

No, not at all. I wouldn't expect someone who has no interest in hip-hop would enjoy any hip-hop movie, from 8 Mile to whatever 50 Cent's movie was called to this one.

That's not to say someone who isn't interested in hip-hop might not enjoy it -- they might. but i wouldn't EXPECT them to, and I wouldn't recommend it to them.

wildcat09
06-23-2006, 11:53 AM
Would you suggest it to someone who has zero interest in hip hop?

i wouldn't suggest it to anyone who does not like hip hop. it you are a true fan of real hip hop, its outstanding. i for one like real hip hop and loved it. there are some pretty damn funny parts in there.

jAZ
06-23-2006, 11:57 AM
Maybe you just have to be "into learning about other cultures" then... I looked at it and enjoyed it the same way I might enjoy a documentary about history or a different culture. It was interesting and funny.

wildcat09
06-23-2006, 12:00 PM
Maybe you just have to be "into learning about other cultures" then... I looked at it and enjoyed it the same way I might enjoy a documentary about history or a different culture. It was interesting and funny.


very well put. i liked that it was about real hip hop. not bubble gum hip hop you hear on the radio everyday. i specifically liked the dead prez part

Predarat
06-23-2006, 12:09 PM
I bet id like it because Dave Chapelle is a funny sumbich and though i'm not into hip hop culture myself I respect/appreciate it and wouldnt mind learning more about it.

jcroft
06-23-2006, 12:14 PM
I bet id like it because Dave Chapelle is a funny sumbich and though i'm not into hip hop culture myself I respect/appreciate it and wouldnt mind learning more about it.

Yeah, you'd probably like it. I guess I would recommended it to someone like you, or jAZ who I know appreciates learning about other cultures. But, I wouldn't recommended it to someone who just hated hip-hop. They'd go into it with a closed mind and hate it, I imagine.

wildcat09
06-23-2006, 12:19 PM
Yeah, you'd probably like it. I guess I would recommended it to someone like you, or jAZ who I know appreciates learning about other cultures. But, I wouldn't recommended it to someone who just hated hip-hop. They'd go into it with a closed mind and hate it, I imagine.


i also would not recommend it to anyone looking for something thats going to make you laugh the whole time. its not the chappelle show.

|Zach|
06-23-2006, 12:23 PM
I think anyone who would have seen anything about the movie would understand what it was about...

I want to catch it at some point. I am a huge Mos Def fan.

Demonpenz
06-23-2006, 12:27 PM
Some good acts in there for sure. Music has really came on strong as of late.

wildcat09
06-23-2006, 12:39 PM
the mos def, dead prez, and the fugees reuniting was the best parts. i also loved the rehearsals when mos def was playing the drums and dave was telling jokes. good stuff

Der Flöprer
06-24-2006, 03:38 PM
Maybe you just have to be "into learning about other cultures" then... I looked at it and enjoyed it the same way I might enjoy a documentary about history or a different culture. It was interesting and funny.


Learning about other cultures is one thing. There are some "cultures" I don't have a desire to learn about at all. This brings about a good question though. Is hip hop a culture? Does that mean that Rock music is a culture? Or country and western music is a culture? I understand that there are generally a large base of inparticular "cultures" who appreciate the same kind of music. I did not know that music styles themselves were cultures. Thank you for this culture lesson. I guess I have a large interest in learning about Irish culture, or maybe African culture. Native American culture definately. Middle Eastern culture. I can say successfully though that I have zero interest in learing about the "hip hop" culture.

Moooo
06-24-2006, 03:40 PM
No, not at all. I wouldn't expect someone who has no interest in hip-hop would enjoy any hip-hop movie, from 8 Mile to whatever 50 Cent's movie was called to this one.

That's not to say someone who isn't interested in hip-hop might not enjoy it -- they might. but i wouldn't EXPECT them to, and I wouldn't recommend it to them.

I don't like hip hop much at all, and thought 8 mile was good.

Moooo

Der Flöprer
06-24-2006, 03:48 PM
I don't like hip hop much at all, and thought 8 mile was good.

Moooo


I thought 8 mile was a great movie. I don't think it really had anything to do with the hip hop culture. That being said however jaz made a post about this musical culture that really got me thinking. Is music truly a culture? So I looked it up. Here is the definitions of culture.


# The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.
# These patterns, traits, and products considered as the expression of a particular period, class, community, or population: Edwardian culture; Japanese culture; the culture of poverty.
# These patterns, traits, and products considered with respect to a particular category, such as a field, subject, or mode of expression: religious culture in the Middle Ages; musical culture; oral culture.


Cool, I'm glad I looked into this. I have ZERO respect for the hip hop culture. With any culture you have to take the good with the bad. There are positive traits to cultures and negative traits as well. The negative traits of hip hop far and away blows the positive out of the water. Making fun of white people, shootin people with no conscious (This is commonly referred to as "not givin a f*ck"), and treating women with the same level of dignity as you would a house pet constitutes a level of outrageous behavior that I would rather not partake in. Anyway, to sum it all up. Culture is great. It's very interesting to learn how other people live. The hip hop culture is not the kind of culture I'd like to learn about. Kind of like the serial murdering culture, or many others I won't even start to go into here. I'm not trying to flame on you hip hop fans out there by any means. However to say that you have to be into "learning about other cultures" to enjoy a movie like Dave Chapelle Block Party is a pretty broad statement to make. I'm just not down for the hippity hop. More power to those of you that are.

Demonpenz
06-24-2006, 04:22 PM
rap is what you do hip hop is the way i live

NewChief
06-24-2006, 05:09 PM
Cool, I'm glad I looked into this. I have ZERO respect for the hip hop culture. With any culture you have to take the good with the bad. There are positive traits to cultures and negative traits as well. The negative traits of hip hop far and away blows the positive out of the water. Making fun of white people, shootin people with no conscious (This is commonly referred to as "not givin a f*ck"), and treating women with the same level of dignity as you would a house pet constitutes a level of outrageous behavior that I would rather not partake in.

What you just described is not hip hop culture, that's rap thug life crap. Hip hop is extremely socially conscious. Check out the lyrics for the Roots, Dead Prez, the Fugees or any of the artists on Block Party. You probably will find Dead Prez making fun of whitey, because they're socialists who believe in armed revolt against the government, but real hip hop definitely isn't about the same message as the cRap you hear from 90% of mainstream rap artists.

mcan
06-24-2006, 05:55 PM
I'm a musician and I've gone on record against RAP many times.

I LOVED Block party. I saw it in theatres last year when it came out. If you like documentaries, if you like Dave Chappelle, if you like Michelle Ghandry, if you like hiphop/R&B/Soul/Rap, you'll love this movie. It's just another in a stream of very well put together, and commercially appealing documentaries lately.


It's NOTHING like 8 MILE. 8 MILE is a motion picture about a white rapper trying to make it in the rap industry by working his way up the ladder in a series of "bouts." It's basically "ROCKY" in the streets of Detroit with crappy acting, and the only real appeal to the movie is for hard core Eminem fans and people who submurse themselves in rap culture and want to see it portrayed on screen. Basically, if you're 14-23 years old and you're a middle class white boy who wants to emulate everything about the rap lifestyle... This movie is an "Idiot's Guide to..." But I suppose for somebody who didn't like Rocky, they could have said the same thing... So... Maybe I'm biased. For what it's worth, I went to 8 MILE expecting to HATE it. When it was over though, I found it surprisingly entertaining. But I took it with a grain of salt.

NewChief
07-03-2006, 07:37 AM
I finally got around to watching this last night. I loved it. I'm also grateful for the fact that with this movie, anytime I get into that "hip hop isn't music" debate and people start talking about how "there ain't no musicians in hip hop", I can just point them to this movie and say STFU

?uestlove once again shows why he's one of the baddest drummers working today. Dude has skills.

Dead Prez tore the house up with their rendition of Hip Hop. When they slow it down and go acapella during the meatiest part of the song-- "Would you rather have a Lexus or Justice?"--that was awesome.

The Fugees reunion was cool. Erykah's wig blowing off her head was funny. I naievely thought that was her real hair. The Angel House was nutty, and those people deserve a documentary just about themselves.

I'd really like to see this movie released as a "concert" video with a lot more music. I'd love to see the entire sets for a lot of these performances.

DJay23
07-03-2006, 08:37 AM
Hip hop is a subculture of the "American" or Western culture.

Sully
07-03-2006, 11:02 AM
Here's my opinion...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=136714&highlight=block+party

Archie F. Swin
07-03-2006, 11:26 AM
hit me

Der Flöprer
07-03-2006, 11:27 AM
I finally got around to watching this last night. I loved it. I'm also grateful for the fact that with this movie, anytime I get into that "hip hop isn't music" debate and people start talking about how "there ain't no musicians in hip hop", I can just point them to this movie and say STFU

?uestlove once again shows why he's one of the baddest drummers working today. Dude has skills.

Dead Prez tore the house up with their rendition of Hip Hop. When they slow it down and go acapella during the meatiest part of the song-- "Would you rather have a Lexus or Justice?"--that was awesome.

The Fugees reunion was cool. Erykah's wig blowing off her head was funny. I naievely thought that was her real hair. The Angel House was nutty, and those people deserve a documentary just about themselves.

I'd really like to see this movie released as a "concert" video with a lot more music. I'd love to see the entire sets for a lot of these performances.



Seems like the DVD I rented had extended musical performances. I didn't check that out. I figured that would be pretty lengthy.

NewChief
07-03-2006, 11:32 AM
Seems like the DVD I rented had extended musical performances. I didn't check that out. I figured that would be pretty lengthy.

Nah. It only had extended footage of Dead Prez and the Roots, one performance each. The quality was awesome, but there wasn't enough of it.

Jmart
07-03-2006, 12:02 PM
I'd really like to see this movie released as a "concert" video with a lot more music. I'd love to see the entire sets for a lot of these performances.

On the Okayplayer "Roots" message board they said that there will probably be an upgraded DVD coming out in six months or so. I already have the first one but I will buy the second and I have the CD too. I am a huge fan of every band that played on this DVD (sans Kanye). I have seen the Roots almost 20 times (if anyone ever has a chance to see them live, this show is one of the best of ANY forms of music).