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jAZ
06-24-2006, 10:13 PM
... Trent Green, Priest Homles, Larry Johnson, Eddie Kennison, Willie Roaf, Tony Gonzalez, and Will Sheilds on offense?

SLAG
06-24-2006, 10:15 PM
<--- Starting the Kettle for the mass amounts of popcorn that will need to be produced for this thread

SBK
06-24-2006, 10:30 PM
It wouldn't have been Martyball.

We would have lost our home playoff games after the bye week too.

beer bacon
06-24-2006, 10:31 PM
We would average 20 ppg easy.

jAZ
06-24-2006, 10:50 PM
It wouldn't have been Martyball.
Do you think that "Martyball" was defined in large part by a lack of premium talent at the offensive skill positions?

milkman
06-24-2006, 11:07 PM
Do you think that "Martyball" was defined in large part by a lack of premium talent at the offensive skill positions?

No.
Martyball is defined by the lack of balls in playoff games.

Martyball isn't a scheme.

It's playing not to lose, rather than to win.

greg63
06-24-2006, 11:19 PM
No.
Martyball is defined by the lack of balls in playoff games.

Martyball isn't a scheme.

It's playing not to lose, rather than to win.
:clap::clap:

Yep; couldn't agree more.

Logical
06-24-2006, 11:20 PM
We would still have lost in the first round of the play-offs. It was not the players it was Marty's philosophy.

milkman
06-24-2006, 11:22 PM
We would still have lost in the first round of the play-offs. It was not the players it was Marty's philosophy.

I think I said that, essentially.

tk13
06-24-2006, 11:24 PM
Don't forget we had Joe freakin' Montana. We've already seen Martyball with skilled players.

greg63
06-24-2006, 11:35 PM
We will never see the Marty-ball coaching philosophy win a SB. IMO

bringbackmarty
06-25-2006, 12:24 AM
what about martyball with Dee brown, Kris Wilson, Damon Huard, Jordan Black, Kevin Sampson, Ronnie Cruz, and Eddie Kennison, Cause thats where we are headed if we don't sign TY LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111

bringbackmarty
06-25-2006, 12:25 AM
just playin,,,

Ultra Peanut
06-25-2006, 01:58 AM
Priest Homeless: AT LEAST HE'S NOT BULLSHITTIN' YOU!

jspchief
06-25-2006, 02:05 AM
martyball is a myth invented by pussies who can't face reality

Logical
06-25-2006, 02:33 AM
martyball is a myth invented by pussies who can't face realityNot sure what this means, you want to elaborate?

KCChiefsMan
06-25-2006, 02:53 AM
All I gotta say...we haven't won a playoff game since we had Joe Montana! 1993...am I right? I think I am

Rausch
06-25-2006, 03:05 AM
I think if I lacked all objectivity and reason it'd be a great question.

It's a moronic question at it's base though. Marty DIDN'T build an offfensive oriented team and DV didn't build a defensive oriented team.

Next jAZ epiphany: what if I flopped my scrote on a heated toaster and temprature didn't burn skin like it does in this reality...

jAZ
06-25-2006, 10:12 AM
I think if I lacked all objectivity and reason it'd be a great question.

It's a moronic question at it's base though. Marty DIDN'T build an offfensive oriented team and DV didn't build a defensive oriented team.

Next jAZ epiphany: what if I flopped my scrote on a heated toaster and temprature didn't burn skin like it does in this reality...
Wow... I've not seen someone dislike a hypothetical this much outside of the DC.

Predarat
06-25-2006, 11:50 AM
He still would have started Grbac/Bono and Elliot would have still choked.

Count Zarth
06-25-2006, 01:58 PM
Interesting fact about Martyball: The Chiefs ranked in the top 14 in scoring 8 years, and in the top 10 during 5 years.

Thig Lyfe
06-25-2006, 02:01 PM
The reason Martyball didn't work was because we had absolutely nothing at RB. Just put LJ in during those years and we'd have a Super Bowl win or two by now

chiefsfaninNC
06-25-2006, 02:04 PM
Interesting fact about Martyball: The Chiefs ranked in the top 14 in scoring 8 years, and in the top 10 during 5 years.


Goes back to what Milkman said. Playing not to lose.

Moooo
06-25-2006, 02:06 PM
Interesting fact about Martyball: The Chiefs ranked in the top 14 in scoring 8 years, and in the top 10 during 5 years.

In the playoffs?

My problem with Marty has NEVER been about his regular season. If we even today could have him as a coach for the regular season and trade him out for another coach in the playoffs without any repercussion like playbook and whatnot, I'd do it.

His problem is in the playoffs he would try to win with 100% defense, and 0% offense, though he would always make sure and win with time of posession. Though not all the time, sometimes the best defense is a good offense (2003 comes to mind as having some good examples).

Moooo

Edited to add: There's always the Paul Hackett factor, whether it be a portion of the former martyball puzzle or not.

chiefsfaninNC
06-25-2006, 02:07 PM
The reason Martyball didn't work was because we had absolutely nothing at RB. Just put LJ in during those years and we'd have a Super Bowl win or two by now


Word and Okoye both had good years under Marty.

Thig Lyfe
06-25-2006, 02:09 PM
Word and Okoye both had good years under Marty.

true, but neither quite had the capability to dominate a game like LJ does.

chiefsfaninNC
06-25-2006, 02:11 PM
true, but neither quite had the capability to dominate a game like LJ does.


WTF? Are you old enough to remember any of those years?

Moooo
06-25-2006, 02:11 PM
WTF? Are you old enough to remember any of those years?

I always thought Okoye was nothing short of a monster...

Moooo

Thig Lyfe
06-25-2006, 02:18 PM
I always thought Okoye was nothing short of a monster...

Moooo

Yes, he was, but what I'm saying is that LJ has the tools to win games essentially by himself on a consistent basis, which is what we lacked (especially in the mid-to-late nineties). Okoye was a hard runner to be sure (he was the Nigerian Nightmare, after all) but his knees prevented him from having that consistency over the years.

alanm
06-25-2006, 02:21 PM
I think if I lacked all objectivity and reason it'd be a great question.

It's a moronic question at it's base though. Marty DIDN'T build an offfensive oriented team and DV didn't build a defensive oriented team.

Next jAZ epiphany: what if I flopped my scrote on a heated toaster and temprature didn't burn skin like it does in this reality...
:LOL: ROFL :LOL:

FringeNC
06-25-2006, 02:30 PM
Schemes and play-calling matter. I'll leave it at that.

crispystl420
06-25-2006, 03:16 PM
Don't forget we had Joe freakin' Montana. We've already seen Martyball with skilled players.
Just what I was about to say If you can,t get it done with Joe ****in Montana then who the hell else you want???

crispystl420
06-25-2006, 03:20 PM
Interesting fact about Martyball: The Chiefs ranked in the top 14 in scoring 8 years, and in the top 10 during 5 years.
yeah how many points a game did this defense average a game out of curiosity. Not to mention the great field position and backbreaking forced fumbles from Derrick and Neil. Those were huge momentum swings,and if we had Larry or Priest to punch those oppurtuniteis in the end zone I cant imagine how many points the current offense could score.

mlyonsd
06-25-2006, 03:27 PM
... Trent Green, Priest Homles, Larry Johnson, Eddie Kennison, Willie Roaf, Tony Gonzalez, and Will Sheilds on offense?

If in your hypothetical you'd add Al Saunders I'd say Marty might still be coaching in KC.

milkman
06-25-2006, 04:14 PM
If in your hypothetical you'd add Al Saunders I'd say Marty might still be coaching in KC.

When Hackett left for SC, Marty had the opportunity to promote Saunders to OC.

He decided that Jimmy Raye was a better choice than Saunders.

More of the Martyball mentality at work.

Go with the unimaginitive, predictable moron, rather than a guy who is creative.