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KingPriest2
06-27-2006, 01:24 PM
June 27, 2006
Rural Dems protest stadium improvements
Two rural Democrats are urging Missourians to protest against $50 million in tax credits to subsidize the renovation of Arrowhead and Kauffman stadiums.
Rep. Wes Shoemyer of Clarence and Sen. Frank Barnitz of Lake Spring complain that Gov. Matt Blunt circumvented the legislature by allowing the Missouri Development Finance Board to issue the credits. They are calling on Missourians to call the finance board and demand that board members reject what they call a tax giveaway.
“At a time when the state has cut health care funding,… this $50 million giveaway to wealthy professional sports tycoons is another example of the Blunt administration’s misplaced priorities,” said Shoemyer, who is running for the Senate.
Barnitz said the plan has received no public debate.
“My constituents overwhelmingly oppose tax breaks for stadiums,” Barnitz said. “With their elected representatives shut out of the process, it is vital for them to tell the Blunt administration what they think of this poorly conceived plan.”
The finance board is expected to approve the credits Thursday.

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I'm not a big fan of giveing tax oney to private orgnaization, but the precedent was set on the TWA dome. It is only fair.

Posted by: the little guy | June 27, 2006 at 01:02 PM

this is complete bs when this is gonna stop the rich keep getting richer

Posted by: Lewis | June 27, 2006 at 01:07 PM

Can't see the forest for the trees, folks? Let's keep in mind the millions of dollars in revenue these stadiums bring to local businesses, which employ local people.

Posted by: inthenameofprogress | June 27, 2006 at 01:12 PM

StcChief
06-27-2006, 01:28 PM
Like the rural locals up here...

When AB builds roads. We will build stadiums

htismaqe
06-27-2006, 01:28 PM
Giving state money to St. Louis for their stadiums is ok, though.

oldandslow
06-27-2006, 01:36 PM
Giving state money to St. Louis for their stadiums is ok, though.

No, htismage, it is not.

It is the worst type of corporate welfare, imo.

Cochise
06-27-2006, 01:36 PM
The argument that it's cutting into the state's freebie budget only makes me like the stadium improvements more.

oldandslow
06-27-2006, 01:37 PM
The argument that it's cutting into the state's freebie budget only makes me like the stadium improvements more.

So it's ok to give money to bazillionaires, but not help out everyday folks????

Cochise
06-27-2006, 01:41 PM
So it's ok to give money to bazillionaires, but not help out everyday folks????

At least this is investment in something that will generate money in the long term, rather than a government giveaway, which is the most unproductive use of money possible IMO.

Besides, you're forgetting that the people of Kansas City authorized the sales tax at the ballot box.

htismaqe
06-27-2006, 01:43 PM
No, htismage, it is not.

It is the worst type of corporate welfare, imo.

It obviously IS, because they DID.

Doesn't matter at this point if it's right or wrong. They gave money to St. Louis. It's time to give money to KC.

tk13
06-27-2006, 01:45 PM
No, htismage, it is not.

It is the worst type of corporate welfare, imo.
That was a bit of sarcasm. As mentioned in the TWA Dome comment there, St. Louis doesn't seem to have the problems KC has in getting goverment money.

Phobia
06-27-2006, 01:52 PM
Liberals are always a little bit slow. Didn't this initiative pass MONTHS ago?

A man walked into a very high-tech bar. As he sat down on a stool he noticed that the bartender was a robot. The robot clicked to attention and asked, "Sir, what will you have?"

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The robot then asked, " Sir, what is your IQ?"

The man answered , " Oh, about 164."

The robot then proceeded to discuss the 'theory of relativity, inter-steller space travel, the latest medical break throughs, etc........

The man was most impressed. He left the bar but thought he would try a different tact. He returned and took a seat. Again the robot clicked and asked what he would have? "A Martini please . "

Again it was supurb. The robot again asked , "What is your IQ sir?"

This time the man answered , "Oh about 100".

So the robot started discussing Nascar racing, the latest basketball scores, and what to expect the Dodgers to do this week end.

The guy had to try it one more time. So he left, returned and took a seat.... Again a martini, and the question, "What is your IQ?"

This time the man drawled out " Uh..... bout 50".

The robot clicked, then leaned close and very slowly asked ,

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oldandslow
06-27-2006, 02:54 PM
Really, I don't have a dog in this hunt. I live in South Dakota, get down to one game a year and don't pay taxes in MO.

My overall stance however is to NEVER give money to build sports stadiums.

htismage - I really don't think St Louis should have gotten a damn dime. No more than KC. Let Georgia and Lamar build their own stadiums.

Cochise, trickle down has never worked. Corporations waste money - moreso even than individuals.

Phobia
06-27-2006, 04:04 PM
My overall stance however is to NEVER give money to build sports stadiums.


Which is awfully convenient because nobody wants to build a stadium in South Dakota. Congratulations.

Brock
06-27-2006, 04:11 PM
Which is awfully convenient because nobody wants to build a stadium in South Dakota. Congratulations.

Stadiums? Hell, nobody even wants to build an outhouse in SD.

htismaqe
06-27-2006, 04:12 PM
Stadiums? Hell, nobody even wants to build an outhouse in SD.

Hey, shut the hell up. They have a corn palace and you don't.

jspchief
06-27-2006, 04:13 PM
IMO, rural politicians wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't bitch about this. It's their responsibility to look after their constituents, and government money going to the cities rather than their communities is not good for their constituents.

That being said, they are wasting their breath. While they want to look out for their local boys, the state is looking out for a much larger portion of the population by doing this.

As for enriching the bazillionaires, even ignoring the economic impact, I'm pretty sure the bazillionaires associated with the Chiefs are pretty charitable. My guess is keeping the team in MO will pump $50 mil back into the state in relatively short order.

Moooo
06-27-2006, 04:13 PM
No, htismage, it is not.

It is the worst type of corporate welfare, imo.

At this point, its more of a fairness issue. If you build a brand new stadium for the Cards, you can renovate truman.

Moooo

chiefqueen
06-27-2006, 04:37 PM
Stadiums? Hell, nobody even wants to build an outhouse in SD.

That's because once the outhouse is built the next thing you'll demand will be insulation for the outhouse, and then after that HDTV.............you're never satisfied.

Valiant
06-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Where are these rural Dems from?? If it is anywhere near St. Louis they can shove it... If it is from up north of here or down by Arkansas they can bitch all they want with reasonable validity...

But we still are getting the improvements...

redbrian
06-27-2006, 06:09 PM
The Chiefs and Royals do not own the stadiums, they are owned by Jackson Co., if you want to argue about not giving money to dumb asses that run the county you have a legitimate beef.

Jackson County was the group who signed a bad contract which left them responsible for all upgrades and keeping the stadiums up to top standards.

If these rural Dem’s want to talk about a waste of public money let’s start talking about all of the money which goes to millionaire farmers to not grow crops. The farm industry is on of the largest recipients of corporate welfare in this country.

ChiefsCountry
06-27-2006, 06:28 PM
So it's ok to give money to bazillionaires, but not help out everyday folks????

They will use it right, giving it to welfare bastards doesnt do much.

Adept Havelock
06-27-2006, 07:45 PM
Hey, shut the hell up. They have a corn palace and you don't.

ROFL

They also have Wall Drug....but they make up for it by having the Badlands and Saloon#10. :shrug:

ChiefsCountry
06-27-2006, 09:12 PM
Where are these rural Dems from?? If it is anywhere near St. Louis they can shove it... If it is from up north of here or down by Arkansas they can bitch all they want with reasonable validity...

But we still are getting the improvements...

Clarence is north of Columbia, between Hwy 63 and Hannibal.

Rausch
06-27-2006, 09:48 PM
In a time when Blunt already has a gun to the back of his head this might be the only kind of stupid to help him.