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jidar
07-05-2006, 10:24 AM
Your pocket cards are

http://www.cs.nyu.edu/courses/fall05/V22.0005-001/newcards/images/King%20of%20Clubs.jpg
http://www.cs.nyu.edu/courses/fall05/V22.0005-001/newcards/images/Ace%20of%20Hearts%201.jpg

You're in early position but you've got a good hand so you make a decent sized bet, triple the big blind.

You're playing a 9 person table and 6 of the 9 call you including the blinds.

Here comes the flop!

http://www.cs.nyu.edu/courses/fall05/V22.0005-001/newcards/images/08%20of%20Clubs.jpg
http://www.cs.nyu.edu/courses/fall05/V22.0005-001/newcards/images/Jack%20of%20Hearts%201.jpg
http://www.cs.nyu.edu/courses/fall05/V22.0005-001/newcards/images/Queen%20of%20Clubs.jpg

Action is back on you.
What do you do?

milkman
07-05-2006, 10:28 AM
Kill the dealer.

jidar
07-05-2006, 10:30 AM
Kill the dealer.


shoot the hostage?

Sully
07-05-2006, 10:30 AM
Bet the pot.

hypersensitiveZO6
07-05-2006, 10:32 AM
Change the channel.

CanadianChief
07-05-2006, 10:34 AM
You've got about a 16% chance to catch your 10 on the turn so you either raise or you'll probably be forced into folding when one of the other six raises.

With that many people calling one is bound to have you beat with a pair of J's or Q's.

Bootlegged
07-05-2006, 10:35 AM
Check.

sedated
07-05-2006, 10:38 AM
all in

rad
07-05-2006, 10:39 AM
I would have folded from the get-go.

Rooster
07-05-2006, 10:42 AM
Go fish?? :)

ct
07-05-2006, 10:43 AM
Check.

ditto

carlos3652
07-05-2006, 11:30 AM
Check/ Fold, you are losing at this point with 6 people calling you, if you "catch" your ten, or your pair, odds are that someone else just got two pair with the A coming out on the turn or River, or also the odds of someone catching a Flush...

Check - Fold...

Der Flöprer
07-05-2006, 11:50 AM
With that many callers it's tough, but I'd fire another bullet and bet the pot. Even if it pushed me all in.

donkhater
07-05-2006, 12:37 PM
First of all, since both blinds called the bet, the action is first on them. If both check I take a stab at the pot.

With that many players in the pot after the flop, chances are a decent size bet will still give you pot odds on calling.

For instance, if the blinds were $50/$100 then the pot, pre flop was $1800. Any bet post-flop at ~$300 or less will give you decent pot odds to call.

The two clubs are worrisome and may alter your strategy somewhat

Carlota69
07-05-2006, 12:38 PM
What are the blinds? Becasue in a $1-$2 game, 3x the blind is not even a big enough bet. A 9-7 offsuit will call 6 bucks.

If you want to get less than 6 callers you need to bet at least $12-$15 bucks pre-flop to get the number of players down to at the worst 3.

So lets say thats the deal, becasue that's more common at a real table--

I would make a bet half-the size of the pot, hoping the othere players will put me on A-Q. if someone calls, then I have a better idea of where they are at. If they raise me 3x my bet, then I fold. If they only raise me 2x times my bet, then I've been invited to call (pot odds) and if I hit my ten then I make $$$, or at least chop. The I see how my "turns" out. If I hit nothing on 4th street, then I check and see wher things go from there.

MeaTy The Pimp
07-05-2006, 12:38 PM
I would call, and then cut a juicy fart to see if I could make everyone else fold or pass out. I win.

Rausch
07-05-2006, 01:08 PM
With that many callers it's tough, but I'd fire another bullet and bet the pot. Even if it pushed me all in.

There's no way in hell I'd play that aggressive with 9 seats.

If 6 called at least one of them will have you beat, and your early raise really didn't appear to scare anyone. You don't have $#it and a pocket pair of 2's can beat you, not to mention there's a flush draw out there.

You're bluffing at this point b/c your odds aren't good (like 15% or something) for landing the straight.
Ask why you put yourself in that position...

jidar
07-05-2006, 01:20 PM
The right answer is to check - fold.

You've lost this hand and no amount of bluffing betting or figuring odds, money is going to change that. Get out or be another sucker that is funding the good players.

Carlota69
07-05-2006, 01:28 PM
The right answer is to check - fold.

You've lost this hand and no amount of bluffing betting or figuring odds, money is going to change that. Get out or be another sucker that is funding the good players.

In reality, there is no real "right" answer. All depends on what the situation is.

For instance, if i've been running over the table and hitting hands, and the players know it and are afraid of me, especially if I'm big-stacked, then firing at the pot is a way to go.

if I've been running bad, and not hitting and the players know it, then check-fold is defintely the way to go.\

Poker is a situational and psychological game, not just a game of cards.

Iowanian
07-05-2006, 03:26 PM
I check....if its checked a couple of times to me, I might take a stab at it if I've hit a couple of hands.

At best, I'm chasing a strt, I'm assuming someone is at least on a high pair, sitting on good trips, with a lower strait and flush draw...someone with trips, 1 card from a boat with 2 to go.

I figure on laying that down on a decent bet.

Der Flöprer
07-05-2006, 03:46 PM
There's no way in hell I'd play that aggressive with 9 seats.

If 6 called at least one of them will have you beat, and your early raise really didn't appear to scare anyone. You don't have $#it and a pocket pair of 2's can beat you, not to mention there's a flush draw out there.

You're bluffing at this point b/c your odds aren't good (like 15% or something) for landing the straight.
Ask why you put yourself in that position...


The reason I would overbet this pot is because with the initial raise you have already put yourself out there with a premium hand. To overbet the pot would give the impression of the nuts. Meaning 3 bitches. It would take a real idiot to call that bet on a draw, or anything less than 2 pair. I'm not a good poker player, take it for what it's worth. In this case, probably nothing.