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KingPriest2
07-12-2006, 03:29 PM
Summary: We are stunned that KC Star gossip-meister Hearne Christopher Jr. has still failed to even mention that one of his best friends and most quoted sources---Erich "Mancow" Muller---was fired from his flagship Chicago radio station.

From Radio Ink:

Following yesterday's surprising and sudden departure of Mancow from mornings at Q101 Chicago, station VP/GM Marv Nyren took time to give Radio Ink an exclusive interview. About Mancow, we asked...

RI: “Was he pushed or did he jump?”

MN: “We told him today was his last day. This is a change that we've been working on in preparation for the possibility we weren't going to be able to come to terms with him and if we were able to develop a new show that we thought would be more in tune with the rest of the radio station, we'd go ahead and make a change, so really it's kind of those two reasons. So we ended his employment as of today. We'll run the Best of Mancow Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. But the Mancow has left the building.”

RI: “What we got from Mancow’s camp made it sound like he was the guy looking for a new flagship.”

MN: “Well, that's because I had a conversation with him about a month ago before I went on vacation and I gave him an update that we were kind of struggling with negotiations, trying to come up with a new deal, that there was a real possibility that we were not going to be able to move forward with a new contract. And because he's got syndicated stations around the country he was trying to be prepared in case that happened.”

RI: “How does he do his show now on the rest of the stations, or is that not your business?”

MN: “Not my business! Well, here's what I'm doing. I'm going to offer Mark Masters at (syndicator) TRN (the opportunity to) run the Best of Mancow out of one my side studios for a week or two or three for his affiliates so as not to cause them any harm.“

***(Editor's Note: TRN announced yesterday that the syndicated Mancow show will continue uninterrupted with or without Q101.)

RI: “In reading Mancow's press release, it looks like his show is generating tons of money. How can you walk away from that?”

MN: “How do I answer those questions? Number one, it doesn't generate that much money. The numbers they gave are not accurate numbers. His ratings are very good. But his syndicated show has become difficult for us because we want a local Chicago show. And when I look at the stations he's got syndicated they're in Rapid City and Tucson and Salt Lake City and a couple of other markets. They're in general very small markets. He's on in LA but it's an AM station. It's not what I would consider a major, nationally syndicated radio show.

“We've been allowing him to do a nationally syndicated morning show, but it's really starting to affect (us locally). Example, when the Chicago White Sox won the World Series, the next day I think we were talking about 'a car that blew up on a Los Angeles side street.'

“ That's just an example, but we weren't getting a local Chicago show, and his greatest strength when he first signed on (was that) he was local. He was everywhere. And it's become a distraction. That is the biggest reason that we wanted to make a change and have a local show that we – and I'm going to use the word control and I don't mean that in a controlling way – but one that we had input on and worked with, and not just kind of responded to when things were happening in Salt Lake City, Tucson and Rapid City.

“I love talent but I'm just a believer, especially with satellite and Internet and all these other types of choices, I think local is the greatest strength of radio going forward, and I need a local show.”

RI: “Do you have anyone in mind right now?”

MN: “Not any one individual, we're looking for an ensemble cast. We've got a September 18th deadline. We've got about six, seven people that we have just about wrapped up, but some of them are still employed so I can't really say their names. But in the next couple of weeks we should have some people onboard. My goal is to allow them to do practice for about a month. They can do their shows for about a month inside the studios. I might even use my HD Radios and let them do a few things there, since, I think there are about 10 HD Radios in the market right now. Although I think that number's gonna grow. Just to let them get used to really doing a radio show.”

RI: “The point is moot, but if Mancow had been willing to go back to doing a Chicago-only show, would you have been willing to stick with him?”

MN: “I don't think so. I had just gotten the results of a Coleman Research project and I think the best way to say it is that what Mancow was famous for was no longer was in sync with what the rest of the radio station was. It was two different radio stations. I had Mancow's Morning Madhouse and then I had 20 hours of another program almost.”

RI: “Thank you for your time.”

MN: “Thank you.”

htismaqe
07-12-2006, 03:32 PM
Marv Nyren is a HUGE TOOL.

Huge tool...

Simplex3
07-12-2006, 03:32 PM
ROFL

"We're done with this turd, so we're going to run "best of" shows the rest of the week..."

What a bunch of dumbasses. The only reason anyone gave a rat's ass about your station and you just kicked him out. Smart move.

htismaqe
07-12-2006, 03:38 PM
ROFL

"We're done with this turd, so we're going to run "best of" shows the rest of the week..."

What a bunch of dumbasses. The only reason anyone gave a rat's ass about your station and you just kicked him out. Smart move.

We're you listening? He's only running in small markets, like backwater South Dakota. Sure, he's on in LA, but that's just an AM station.

He failed to mention St. Louis, Kansas City, Des Moines, Fresno, Knoxville, etc.

Duck Dog
07-12-2006, 03:41 PM
I like Bob and Tom much better.

|Zach|
07-12-2006, 04:02 PM
I like Mancow...sometimes it gets old but I always enjoyed it. Met him once.

Listened alot on the old 107.3 the X.

I am not a big morning radio\talk radio guy. But if I did tune in it was generally him.

BIG_DADDY
07-12-2006, 04:13 PM
I had mancow do a broadcast from one of my clubs once. He had this annoying little ****er that worked with him when he was on the air that I wanted to blast. He was so small though it would have been like beating up a 6 year old. I wonder if that guy still works with him.

BIG_DADDY
07-12-2006, 04:19 PM
I had mancow do a broadcast from one of my clubs once. He had this annoying little ****er that worked with him when he was on the air that I wanted to blast. He was so small though it would have been like beating up a 6 year old. I wonder if that guy still works with him.

It's that butt cheese ****er.

chagrin
07-12-2006, 04:54 PM
I never could get used to his vopice, although some of his stuff was entertaining, overall - I'd say who cares

KcMizzou
07-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Didn't he and Johnny Dare have some sort of running feud at one point?

sedated
07-12-2006, 05:47 PM
I never listened to that sh!t.

mostly because I cannot stand talking on the radio (except sports talk, and most of that sucks too)


and what dumbass made the rule that all radio stations MUST have nothing but talking in the morning?!

finding a decent song on the radio before 10am is like finding a recxjake thread that praises Ford.

4th and Long
07-12-2006, 05:48 PM
I never listened to that sh!t.

mostly because I cannot stand talking on the radio (except sports talk, and most of that sucks too)


and what dumbass made the rule that all radio stations MUST have nothing but talking in the morning?!

finding a decent song on the radio before 10am is like finding a recxjake thread that praises Ford.
CD player. Buy one. Now STFU

Frazod
07-12-2006, 05:56 PM
Mancow is a gigantic, narcissistic prick. I quit listening to him years ago because of his mean-spirited antics. He's also a complete diva bitch when not on the air.

I'm sure the sonofabitch will land on his feet somewhere. Hopefully it'll be a long way from Chicago.

4th and Long
07-12-2006, 06:01 PM
Mancow is a gigantic, narcissistic prick. I quit listening to him years ago because of his mean-spirited antics. He's also a complete diva bitch when not on the air.

I'm sure the sonofabitch will land on his feet somewhere. Hopefully it'll be a long way from Chicago.
I have never met the man, obviosly, but his on air antics are juvenile at best.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-12-2006, 06:07 PM
Never heard Mancow. LOVE Bob and Tom. They're awesome. Before I moved out here to Charlotte I listened to Stern in Seattle religously.

sedated
07-12-2006, 06:14 PM
CD player. Buy one. Now STFU

I have one.

but I have no CD's :sulk:

Adept Havelock
07-12-2006, 06:31 PM
I have one.

but I have no CD's :sulk:

You have an internet connection, but no CD's....:hmmm:

DomerNKC
07-12-2006, 06:40 PM
Never heard Mancow. LOVE Bob and Tom. They're awesome. Before I moved out here to Charlotte I listened to Stern in Seattle religously.Bob and Tom are horrible. Their content is not that bad but their rule must be that if they are not talking they have to be doing a stupid laugh. he he he he, ho ho ho ho ho, huh huh huh huh huh, ha ha ha ha ha ha etc. noting has been good on morning radio since Randy Miller went off the air.

4th and Long
07-12-2006, 06:50 PM
Bob and Tom are horrible. Their content is not that bad but their rule must be that if they are not talking they have to be doing a stupid laugh. he he he he, ho ho ho ho ho, huh huh huh huh huh, ha ha ha ha ha ha etc. noting has been good on morning radio since Randy Miller went off the air.
A relative of mine used to run Young Country's web site and I can tell you Miller is a genuine prick. Long live Johnny Dare.

ChiefsFire
07-12-2006, 06:55 PM
Bob and Tom are horrible. Their content is not that bad but their rule must be that if they are not talking they have to be doing a stupid laugh. he he he he, ho ho ho ho ho, huh huh huh huh huh, ha ha ha ha ha ha etc. noting has been good on morning radio since Randy Miller went off the air.
this is aimed at those of us who bag on sportsradio also...

what exactly is it that you want to hear or not hear on the radio???

shaneo69
07-12-2006, 06:58 PM
We're you listening? He's only running in small markets, like backwater South Dakota. Sure, he's on in LA, but that's just an AM station.

He failed to mention St. Louis, Kansas City, Des Moines, Fresno, Knoxville, etc.

Mancow isn't/wasn't on in St. Louis.

jspchief
07-12-2006, 08:09 PM
When Mancow first came to Des Moines, I thought it was the best thing ever put on the airwaves.

A year later I was tired of his schtick. I think that kind of humor appeals to a pretty narrow demographic.

R&GHomer
07-12-2006, 08:17 PM
Didn't he and Johnny Dare have some sort of running feud at one point?

More or less. He was here a few years ago and John kicked his ass. He left but came back a while ago, but as far as I know John is still getting far better local ratings. It sounds like he is still going to be here in the local market so I'll have to call John and get the skinny.

4th and Long
07-12-2006, 08:22 PM
More or less. He was here a few years ago and John kicked his ass. He left but came back a while ago, but as far as I know John is still getting far better local ratings. It sounds like he is still going to be here in the local market so I'll have to call John and get the skinny.
John still owns the market share here and Moocow will always get the table scraps in the Kansas City market.

Moooo
07-12-2006, 08:22 PM
I like Bob and Tom much better.

This is the smartest thing I may have ever heard...

Moooo

jspchief
07-12-2006, 08:26 PM
This is the smartest thing I may have ever heard...

MooooBob and Tom are funny, but as someone else mentioned, 50% of their airtime consists of them laughing. It gets tiresome.

4th and Long
07-12-2006, 08:33 PM
Bob and Tom are boring. hahahahohohohehehehuhuhuh

Moooo
07-12-2006, 08:34 PM
Bob and Tom are funny, but as someone else mentioned, 50% of their airtime consists of them laughing. It gets tiresome.

I don't care. Its better than laughing 5% of the time with Mancow. But that's just my opinion I know.

I personally like how Bob and Tom goes back to all the same skits again. I don't get tired of repetition, and if I laugh at something the first time, I'll laugh at it the next 99.

One of the funniest things I ever heard was "Church League Softball Fistfight" by Tim Wilson. I've heard it a hundred times and I still can't get enough of it.

Moooo

R&GHomer
07-12-2006, 08:34 PM
John still owns the market share here and Moocow will always get the table scraps in the Kansas City market.

Yep, he has done very well. Randy Miller, Moocow and a few others have tried to goad him into on air rivalries and he wasn’t about to get into that crap. He’s also been really good about not being a prick. Over all, he has played his cards very well. It also helps to be a world class smart azz “but in a fun joking way” very seldom will you hear him putting someone down.

4th and Long
07-12-2006, 08:36 PM
Yep, he has done very well. Randy Miller, Moocow and a few others have tried to goad him into on air rivalries and he wasn’t about to get into that crap. He’s also been really good about not being a prick. Over all, he has played his cards very well. It also helps to be a world class smart azz “but in a fun joking way” very seldom will you hear him putting someone down.
John knows who butters his bread. He makes very few professional mistakes.

Bowser
07-12-2006, 08:38 PM
Didn't he and Johnny Dare have some sort of running feud at one point?

I believe they used to work together back at the old Z-Rock on AM. Mancow moved on, Dare got his show, and Mancow accused Dare of basically ripping off all of his material. Mancow had Turd, Dare has Tard, that kind of thing. The part of them getting into a fight is news to me, though.

Frazod
07-12-2006, 08:44 PM
I have never met the man, obviosly, but his on air antics are juvenile at best.

It's pretty common knowledge around Chicago what a whiny, spoiled little bitch he is (must have the best table at the restaurant, too good to wait in line with the little people, etc.). His ego's even bigger than his mouth. My wife used to work with a guy who interned for him - apparently he's a monster as a boss, too.

I always just found him to be mean. It's one thing to pull good natured pranks - his stuff always seemed to have a nasty edge to it. I also got tired of him demonizing anybody and everybody who was in competition with him.

But in the end, I'd just rather listen to music on the radio, not some loudmouthed asshole. That pretty much goes for all of them.

R&GHomer
07-12-2006, 08:48 PM
I believe they used to work together back at the old Z-Rock on AM. Mancow moved on, Dare got his show, and Mancow accused Dare of basically ripping off all of his material. Mancow had Turd, Dare has Tard, that kind of thing. The part of them getting into a fight is news to me, though.

I don't think Moocow ever worked with John on the Z. That was the Greg or better known as the Gregaga "does all the parity songs" now. I'm also pretty sure he never got into a physical fight with Moo. If so, I’ve never heard about it and I'm fairly certain I would have. As far as the Turd / Tard thing, that is something that Mancow brought up on occasion. I may be biased, but I really can't stand that azz clown.

beavis
07-12-2006, 08:57 PM
But in the end, I'd just rather listen to music on the radio, not some loudmouthed asshole. That pretty much goes for all of them.
Music on the radio... what a novel concept.

Swanman
07-12-2006, 09:02 PM
It's pretty common knowledge around Chicago what a whiny, spoiled little bitch he is (must have the best table at the restaurant, too good to wait in line with the little people, etc.). His ego's even bigger than his mouth. My wife used to work with a guy who interned for him - apparently he's a monster as a boss, too.

I always just found him to be mean. It's one thing to pull good natured pranks - his stuff always seemed to have a nasty edge to it. I also got tired of him demonizing anybody and everybody who was in competition with him.

But in the end, I'd just rather listen to music on the radio, not some loudmouthed asshole. That pretty much goes for all of them.

Since I've had XM Radio, I've been a regular listener of Opie and Anthony, who have always had a little feud going with Mancow. They always have some interesting inside info about him. After Opie's dad died very unexpectedly, Mancow basically made fun of the death on his show and Opie's brother almost flew to Chicago to kill Mancow (Stern did something similar to Mancow when Cow's dad died). Also, they've heard from comedian friends of theirs that have done his show that he's a huge primadonna and control freak during the show.

The bottom line is Mancow's ratings have slipped a lot in the last couple years and that's why he's being given the boot. He used to absolutely own the 18-34 male demo back in the 90's, even with Stern on in Chicago. According to the latest book, he's not in first place anymore with that demo, which is unacceptable being that he is the only "shock jock" in Chicago and in other demos, like the important 25-54 male demo, he was something like 15th.

Bowser
07-12-2006, 09:15 PM
I don't think Moocow ever worked with John on the Z. That was the Greg or better known as the Gregaga "does all the parity songs" now. I'm also pretty sure he never got into a physical fight with Moo. If so, I’ve never heard about it and I'm fairly certain I would have. As far as the Turd / Tard thing, that is something that Mancow brought up on occasion. I may be biased, but I really can't stand that azz clown.

I could have sworn, although I can't remember where/when I heard it, that Mancow was a producer for Dare on the Z. That's always the way I remembered it.

Listening to Mancow's show was like trying to listen to a person who just did three lines of blow in rapid succession - way too hyper and having no direstion with what they're saying. Almost like the person was talking to hear their own voice.

Iowanian
07-12-2006, 09:58 PM
"aLAAAAAAAARM CROCK broken!"
"Whats it doing sir"
"It say 12 o clock, 12 oclock 12 oclock"

R&GHomer
07-12-2006, 11:11 PM
I could have sworn, although I can't remember where/when I heard it, that Mancow was a producer for Dare on the Z. That's always the way I remembered it.

Listening to Mancow's show was like trying to listen to a person who just did three lines of blow in rapid succession - way too hyper and having no direstion with what they're saying. Almost like the person was talking to hear their own voice.

I don't remember it that way. Of course I was just getting out of the military so I could be mistaken. If I thought John was still awake I would call and ask him, but I know that puzzy goes to bed at like 9. Of course he does get up around 4 so I guess I should take it easy on the puzzy comment. LOL

Rausch
07-12-2006, 11:16 PM
Sounds like CP talking about free agency.

kc rush
07-13-2006, 08:26 AM
I don't think Moocow ever worked with John on the Z. That was the Greg or better known as the Gregaga "does all the parity songs" now. I'm also pretty sure he never got into a physical fight with Moo. If so, I’ve never heard about it and I'm fairly certain I would have. As far as the Turd / Tard thing, that is something that Mancow brought up on occasion. I may be biased, but I really can't stand that azz clown.

I thought that they both (Mancow and Dare) interned or worked for Randy Miller back when Q104 was Top 40. My understanding was that when Mancow was first syndicated here about 6-8 years ago, he called out Miller (who was still popular at the time) and Dare. He said that Miller was over the hill and Dare ripped off his schtick. I think he also took credit for some of Miller's popularity.

He seemed like a prick, so I never listened to him.

htismaqe
07-13-2006, 09:15 AM
Bob and Tom is great...if you're over 50. Of course, they also appeal to fans of Red Green and the Blue Collar Comedy Tour.

They're BEYOND boring.

I listen to Mancow for the serious guests, plain and simple. I get a kick out of people like Alex Jones.

Molitoth
07-13-2006, 09:53 AM
I was listening to Mancow a couple weeks ago and he mentioned working with Dare in the past and Dare ripped off his skits.

Personally whenever I listen to the morning talk shows, it seems Dare always has the first interview, then I scan over to Mancow and here the same person on his show, but a lamer interview. Dare does a better job on interviews. I just hope Dare stops heading in the Howard Stern direction with all the ladies. That week of topless sports had Stern all over it.


Hey Pcap!

Iowanian
07-13-2006, 09:55 AM
12:00

12:00

12:00

htismaqe
07-13-2006, 10:32 AM
12:00

12:00

12:00

Hey, you, Joe Namath. You sell me VCR. VCR BROKEN.

morphius
07-13-2006, 10:58 AM
I was listening to Mancow a couple weeks ago and he mentioned working with Dare in the past and Dare ripped off his skits.

Personally whenever I listen to the morning talk shows, it seems Dare always has the first interview, then I scan over to Mancow and here the same person on his show, but a lamer interview. Dare does a better job on interviews. I just hope Dare stops heading in the Howard Stern direction with all the ladies. That week of topless sports had Stern all over it.


Hey Pcap!
Dare used to do that stuff all the damn time, naked twister, naked this or that, even had a contest with rate my rack website involved. I do not listen as much as I used to, but I don't hear about that stuff as much anymore. The thing I do like about Dare is all the charity stuff he seems to try and promote.

It pretty much just depends on the morning, sometimes I want a laugh, sometimes I want sports, and sometimes I just want to jam. Every morning is a bit different.

DomerNKC
07-13-2006, 07:46 PM
A relative of mine used to run Young Country's web site and I can tell you Miller is a genuine prick. Long live Johnny Dare.He probably was a prick. He did have a great local morning radio show though.

kc rush
07-13-2006, 08:03 PM
Dare used to do that stuff all the damn time, naked twister, naked this or that, even had a contest with rate my rack website involved. I do not listen as much as I used to, but I don't hear about that stuff as much anymore. The thing I do like about Dare is all the charity stuff he seems to try and promote.

It pretty much just depends on the morning, sometimes I want a laugh, sometimes I want sports, and sometimes I just want to jam. Every morning is a bit different.

I used to listen to Johnny Dare all the time too, but its not the best thing to listen to when you have a 4 year old that likes to repeat things.

morphius
07-13-2006, 08:37 PM
I used to listen to Johnny Dare all the time too, but its not the best thing to listen to when you have a 4 year old that likes to repeat things.
There is that painful issue as well, LOL!

KCfaninOK
07-14-2006, 07:40 AM
Havent heard Bob & Tom, but Lex & Terry morning radio show blows Mancow out of the water. Any fans out there?

R&GHomer
07-14-2006, 08:17 AM
I was listening to Mancow a couple weeks ago and he mentioned working with Dare in the past and Dare ripped off his skits.

Personally whenever I listen to the morning talk shows, it seems Dare always has the first interview, then I scan over to Mancow and here the same person on his show, but a lamer interview. Dare does a better job on interviews. I just hope Dare stops heading in the Howard Stern direction with all the ladies. That week of topless sports had Stern all over it.


Hey Pcap!

Hey Kbra :) Now that I think about it, John did work with him at 104, "Good gawd I feel old" I was still in the service at the time.As far as ripping of his skits, I think that's misleading, they actually talked about different ideas all the time and for Moocow to say he came up with everything is total crap. Again I think the dude is an azz clown.

R&GHomer
07-14-2006, 08:21 AM
Dare used to do that stuff all the damn time, naked twister, naked this or that, even had a contest with rate my rack website involved. I do not listen as much as I used to, but I don't hear about that stuff as much anymore. The thing I do like about Dare is all the charity stuff he seems to try and promote.

It pretty much just depends on the morning, sometimes I want a laugh, sometimes I want sports, and sometimes I just want to jam. Every morning is a bit different.

They don't do the naked twister, or send a listener to the bunny ranch stuff any more because the FCC came down on him like a ton of bricks. Actually they are still coming down on him for things that happend years ago.