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Rain Man
07-17-2006, 11:11 PM
About three years ago, I needed some people to do some door to door surveys for a couple of weekends, and some woman got recommended to me. I brought her on - purely temporary - and she did fine.

She then applied for a job at my firm, but she didn't have any qualifications for what we do, and I kind of let her down easy on that.

Then, lo and behold, several months later I got a call from a large federal agency that she had applied to, and she had listed me as an employment reference. I was not impressed by that, but I told this other organization that she did some temporary work for me and she did a good job. I had nothing against the woman.

Fast forward a couple of years, and we submitted a proposal for a project with a local government. There was one other bidder, which was this large federal agency. (Don't even get me started on paying taxes so they can compete with me.) Anyway, they came in at about twice our price, and the client hired us. Apparently, this woman was pushing hard for her agency to get hired, even though she's a peon there.

The project lasted about a year, and we had our final presentation tonight. The client had informed me a few times that this woman had met with the elected officials at the client and had made disparaging remarks about my company and tried to get them to fire us. The client was not impressed, and basically thinks she's a crackpot.

So anyway, this woman showed up at the presentation tonight, and after we finished our presentation, she made a beeline for the elected officials, and right in front of me, started criticizing our work and trying to embarrass me.

So ... she's got a job that she obtained in part by listing me as a reference. We've paid her as a temp in the past, and I've never been anything but nice to this woman. And for an entire freaking year, she's been doing everything she can to damage my reputation, just out of self-interest and with no regard to me helping her. What an idiot. Some people are unbelievable.

I went up to her afterward, and said, "You remember me, right? You listed me as a reference to get this job. I've always been nice to you. What's your problem?" She just laughed and walked away.

I was ticked off, and it would be very easy to embarrass the living daylights out of this woman, and probably cost her her job. I don't think this agency would condone her behavior at all, because she's presenting herself as someone at a much higher level than she is. However, I cooled off on the way home, and recognized that she's nothing but a gnat. I think we're better off ignoring her and treating her like a person of no consequence.

Amazing how some people will make an enemy out of an ally for no reason.

It sure ticks me off, though.

Baconeater
07-17-2006, 11:14 PM
Call her boss and tell him you caught her sleeping on the job.

Nzoner
07-17-2006, 11:14 PM
It sure ticks me off, though.

Maybe you can find someone to throw chicken soup on her.

Spicy McHaggis
07-17-2006, 11:15 PM
Get her number and the next time the homeless guy comes to throw soup at you, give it to him with a roll of quarters.

stevieray
07-17-2006, 11:15 PM
What were you wearing?

j/k... I met a lot of "different" people while living in Denver, but that's pretty wierd.

Rain Man
07-17-2006, 11:16 PM
Maybe I will start giving her address out to homeless people. If she wants to take stuff from me, let her take my homeless stalkers.

greg63
07-17-2006, 11:17 PM
That kind of crap will come back to bite her in the butt one day. People like that is a pet peeve of mine as well.

PastorMikH
07-17-2006, 11:18 PM
Pull out her resume/application and post her contact information here. I'm sure someone would have some fun with it - and you wouldn't even be linked to the activity.

:)

Phobia
07-17-2006, 11:21 PM
Bowl of antifreeze?

Demonpenz
07-17-2006, 11:30 PM
is murder still illegal?

greg63
07-17-2006, 11:31 PM
is murder still illegal?

Eh; I think it's more or less just frowned upon now-a-days.

Count Zarth
07-17-2006, 11:33 PM
Hire someone to throw a bowl of soup at her head.

luv
07-18-2006, 12:00 AM
People like that just make me burn under the collar. Taking advantage of someone's kindness whenever they didn't have to be kind to begin with. If she would have laughed and turned away from me, I might have to let her know just how much I didn't appreciate that. If I had any power over whether or not she was still employed, I'd give her a first class ticket to the unemployment office.........or just jump her in the parking lot.

chagrin
07-18-2006, 06:45 AM
Obviously her beans ain't quite baked, you did your good deed already so next time you get a call about her, you know what to do.

Saulbadguy
07-18-2006, 06:48 AM
2 words: Corporate Assassin.

DaKCMan AP
07-18-2006, 06:51 AM
what a :::insert every disparaging word in the english language, including slang:::

ROYC75
07-18-2006, 06:57 AM
Damn Kev, don't you know that ex-girlfriends are shitty employees ?

HemiEd
07-18-2006, 07:29 AM
Congrats on taking the "High Road," it represents your success well.

Ari Chi3fs
07-18-2006, 07:45 AM
Send her some Chicken Noodle Soup, and a thank you card.

Rain Man
07-18-2006, 09:46 AM
Okay, so this woman called me this morning and said, "I got the impression that you were mad at me last night. Is there a problem?"

I'm not real good at diplomacy, so I said, "Yeah. You've been slandering me for a year now, culminating in last night's meeting. What's your problem?"

She then vociferously denied ever saying anything or doing anything, and I'm thinking, "I was standing right next to you. I was two feet away from you." And my sources for the past year have been unimpeachable.

Kind of silly, actually, but I hope that she'll at least back off of this stuff. I think it's easier to stab someone when you don't ever talk to them or see them. Kind of like how I'm always backstabbing JimNasium.

Iowanian
07-18-2006, 09:46 AM
I'd turn the planet loose on the nag.

Your planet army will savage her until she hefts a large boulder piggy back to your yard in effort to make amends.

I think you should call her employer and express your views.

Donger
07-18-2006, 09:51 AM
Kind of silly, actually, but I hope that she'll at least back off of this stuff.

Actually, I'd be willing to bet that she'll do the EXACT opposite.

Rain Man
07-18-2006, 10:07 AM
Actually, I'd be willing to bet that she'll do the EXACT opposite.

Yeah, that's a bit of a concern. I made sure to say nothing to her that wouldn't look good in a newspaper.

Mr. Kotter
07-18-2006, 10:12 AM
Sounds like she's pissed you didn't hire her. That and you neglected to introduce her to Willie-the-one-eyed-wonderworm....

Bob Dole
07-18-2006, 10:36 AM
It sounds as though it is fairly clear that she has made at least one materially false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or representation, which is a violation of federal statutes.

If it were happening to Bob Dole, Bob Dole would report the bitch to the OGE in a heartbeat.

Iowanian
07-18-2006, 10:41 AM
If brainman doesn't call her employer, I'll be sorely disappointed. You need to at least document that there is an issue, in case it gets worse down the road.

I think a transcript of the conversation would be great to document here also.

luv
07-18-2006, 10:51 AM
If brainman doesn't call her employer, I'll be sorely disappointed. You need to at least document that there is an issue, in case it gets worse down the road.

I think a transcript of the conversation would be great to document here also.
Definitely agree. She lied to your face whenever she knew you witnessed her doing what she's denying having done. You think her boss is aware of anything she's been doing? He'll probably never know unless he gets told.

Rain Man
07-18-2006, 11:00 AM
Definitely agree. She lied to your face whenever she knew you witnessed her doing what she's denying having done. You think her boss is aware of anything she's been doing? He'll probably never know unless he gets told.

The thought has occurred to me that perhaps the federal agency really didn't bid, and that this woman submitted a bid on her own claiming to be the federal agency. That would explain why she has taken such a personal interest on this contract. Who at a mammoth federal agency would get so ticked off about losing a local contract to a small company? I'd love to have a peek at that proposal.

Iowanian
07-18-2006, 11:05 AM
They wouldn't.

If a federal agency were bidding a contract like I assume you're talking about, I'd think most often it would be in regards to another major project.(sample set for next census) or something like that.

Considering that govt is "non profit" by code, I'd see a red flag. Govt entities often do projects at a fee, but I can't imagine a reason for them to be upset to the point of making a stink a year later.

Something else is going on.....you've got a reputation and a business to protect. I think I'd speak with the officials from your presentation as well as her employer.

no doubt, I'd call her boss....and if that went nowhere...her boss' boss.

luv
07-18-2006, 11:11 AM
The thought has occurred to me that perhaps the federal agency really didn't bid, and that this woman submitted a bid on her own claiming to be the federal agency. That would explain why she has taken such a personal interest on this contract. Who at a mammoth federal agency would get so ticked off about losing a local contract to a small company? I'd love to have a peek at that proposal.
I would think that too. If a federal agency wanted a contract that bad, they'd send someone with more experience. She might be included, but I doubt they'd send her on her own. And I doubt they would authorize her to slander you and your company.

Rain Man
07-18-2006, 11:14 AM
I would think that too. If a federal agency wanted a contract that bad, they'd send someone with more experience. She might be included, but I doubt they'd send her on her own. And I doubt they would authorize her to slander you and your company.

In the phone call today, she claimed that she wasn't a bidder. I told her I knew that her organization had submitted a bid, and she claimed that she wasn't involved with it at all. Riiiiiight...

The more I think about this, the more I think she was just fishing to try to get something else to use against me.

luv
07-18-2006, 11:15 AM
In the phone call today, she claimed that she wasn't a bidder. I told her I knew that her organization had submitted a bid, and she claimed that she wasn't involved with it at all. Riiiiiight...

The more I think about this, the more I think she was just fishing to try to get something else to use against me.
Wouldn't that be considered harrassment then?

Rain Man
07-18-2006, 11:23 AM
Wouldn't that be considered harrassment then?

I dunno. I'm not going to do anything legal unless it gets really bad. Frankly, I could do a lot more damage by just calling up her boss. Government agencies tend to be sensitive about their employees doing things in public meetings that they don't know about.

I'll continue holding off, though. It's one of those situations where I'm the metaphorical 8th grader and she's the metaphorical 1st grader. She can hit me all she wants, but if I hit back it'll look like bullying.

JimNasium
07-18-2006, 11:25 AM
Kind of like how I'm always backstabbing JimNasium.
That's it stickman. I'm leaving a bowl of antifreeze out with your name on it.

Rain Man
07-18-2006, 11:28 AM
That's it stickman. I'm leaving a bowl of antifreeze out with your name on it.

I never said that. I like you, and consider you to be a friend.

Rain Man
07-18-2006, 11:28 AM
(Let's see if he buys it. What an idiot.)

sedated
07-18-2006, 11:40 AM
Your restraint is admirable.

However, the possibility that this situation could escalate seems likely (from what you have said).

And, should that happen, you will need as much documentation as possible.

Otherwise, when action is necessary, the 3rd party arbitrator will likely say something to the effect of: "Why haven't you said anything about this previously?"

Psyko Tek
07-18-2006, 01:45 PM
you're in denver, get her married to a bronco player

show her some manners

big nasty kcnut
07-18-2006, 01:47 PM
Good job with holding back on your anger. She would of been messed up by me telling everybody how bad she is. Plus i would of get one of my female employee to spread a bad rumor about her.

Iowanian
07-18-2006, 01:49 PM
Yeah....tell everyone in Denver that she gave brad Essux the clap.

go bowe
07-18-2006, 01:53 PM
burn the witch at the stake, i say...

Braincase
07-18-2006, 02:08 PM
Tell her Jake Plummer wants to marry her, but there's a pre-nup....

PastorMikH
07-18-2006, 02:38 PM
I'd turn the planet loose on the nag.





ActuallyYou could use her personal info to register an account at [cough/ahem]another Chiefs BB[/cough/ahem] then once you have the account going, start making derogatory comments about the BB's owner. I imagine they will take matters from there.

:)

go bowe
07-18-2006, 03:04 PM
you be feelin' devilish today, hey mun?

PastorMikH
07-18-2006, 04:03 PM
you be feelin' devilish today, hey mun?



Hey, who's this Jamaican dude that has taken over Big Chief Go Bo's computer?


Actually, I had thought last night but didn't post a much meaner plan. The plan was pretty much ruined with his conversation with the lady today. The plan was to have one of his female employees call the lady and offer a job at about double the money she's making now, but she has to be willing to start in one week. Then, when she comes in, Kev could tell her that the employee was not authorized to hire anyone, much less set their salary and that he refused to honor the deal.

Now, that feels spiteful.:fire: