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The Rick
12-06-2000, 05:34 PM
What does everyone honestly think? Do you think Cloud, Moreau, and/or Hall will get a real chance (20+ carries) to display their abilities?

They may suprise me, but for some reason, I doubt that this coaching staff will do that at all and we'll continue to play out the season in the same fashion we've been playing.

I don't think we need to do this at every position, but I definitely think it needs to be done at our weakest position, running back. It should have been done long before now anyway.

Cannibal
12-06-2000, 06:10 PM
I already know that Cloud and Hall suck.

The only one that might actually be a good back that hasn't been given an opportunity is Moreau. The rest of them eat a$$ talent wise.

I'd give the rest of the carries to Moreau and still look at signing Charlie Garner in the off season.

[This message has been edited by Cannibal (edited 12-06-2000).]

milkman
12-06-2000, 06:12 PM
Rick,
I think your'e right. We will not see the talent evaluation process begin. My feeling is that Goonther will put more emphasis on trying to win now, than on looking to the future. If the Chiefs were to somehow win the last 3 games, he would probably say that he is starting to see the team he had envisioned all along. Heck, moron that he has proved himself to be, MaGoo may believe the Chiefs are still in the playoff hunt.
the milkman
even with the 3 Stooges and Limp Willie here, thinks Goonther MaGoo is the biggest moron them all

[This message has been edited by Lompoc Brave (edited 12-06-2000).]

morphius
12-06-2000, 08:07 PM
Actually I don't expect them to get many more carries, Moreau might take Bennet's spot on short yardage, but I expect Hall to stay on the inactive list. As for Cloud I think Anders beat him out of his spot, so he probably will not get many carries.

ck_IN
12-06-2000, 08:28 PM
I'd go you better than that. I'd like to see Ransom, Martin, Ricks, Stills, Alford, and O'Neil get major playing time these last three games. I'd kill to see Rich and Cloud in a split backfield for just one game.

Do I think it'll happen? Like a snowballs' chance in hell! Gun wants to keep his job and needs some kind of fig leaf to do it. He'll sacrifice the team and future development to do it.

G_Man
12-06-2000, 09:49 PM
Chuck - O'Neal's on IR. I remember posting the training camp pic on the BB of the Chiefs using a split backfield. I thought it would actually be used. :)

I really don't think we'll see anything from 95% of our players that need evaluating (Moreau, Cloud, Collins, etc.) but they might as well get a shot now anyway; we have nothing to lose. The guys I really want to see are Stills, Ransom, McCleary, Alford, Waters, parker (at WR), and Ricks. If we're lucky, one will turn out to be of value.

DJay23
12-06-2000, 10:33 PM
I read on kcchiefs.com that Gun has not ruled out giving Cloud and Moreau, and Alford will get more work due to Tait's injury. The rest of the article is vintage Gunther. It makes no sense.

I do apologize for this, and rest assured I am ashamed to say that I still do not know how to post a link. I've tried copying the address and then pasting it in the reply box, but apparently that is the incorrect procedure. Anyway here is the full address (I'm so sorry!)
http://www.kcchiefs.com/latest/mainnews.asp?storyID=1960&cat=1&showLatest=yes

Please spare me the ridicule.<BR>

DJay23
12-06-2000, 10:34 PM
Holy Crap it worked. God what a tool I am, I was using copy from the Edit menu and then trying to paste it. Damn what an idiot!

TEX
12-06-2000, 11:25 PM
WHEN will the talents of the coaches be evaluated? They BLOW! They are NOT qualified to judge talent.

Yosef_Malkovitch
12-07-2000, 12:48 AM
Hey Rick are you the same guy that runs Chiefstalk? <P>

Tribal Warfare
12-07-2000, 01:10 AM
I'll just say this they better not Play Tait anymore this season I don't want that guy injured worse than he is now.

One Arrowhead Dave
12-07-2000, 01:44 AM
The talent evaluation never ends.
At this point Anders is out. Its time for Bennett and TRich to make something happen. The team needs a tailback as much as anything.

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Phobia
12-07-2000, 08:01 AM
I wouldn't hold my breath on Hall's future. His girlfriend used to post on this board until some of the membership pissed her off bashing Hall's desire. She seemed to indicate Hall had lost his passion for football and that 2000 would be his final year. I don't know what their relationship status is now but I've met her and I'm quite certain she's not BS'ing us about her relationship with him.

The Rick
12-07-2000, 08:28 AM
Yosef:

Nope, I'm not.

Iowanian
12-07-2000, 09:15 AM
kphob,

do you honestly think we(I) was wrong to make statements about not wanting hall on the team after she said he wanted to quit?

In all seriousness, I wasn't trying to pi$$ the lady off....but you know..The "as a fan" argument..

Phobia
12-07-2000, 09:21 AM
No, I don't think so. If she can't stand a little heat about her man, she shouldn't be on the BB. It's not like we should be expected to kiss a$$ just because of who she is. We know some players read these boards but it's not like we should always make everything smell like roses. She couldn't take our assertiveness and that's too bad. Hall showed flashes early but began to get worse and we stated our minds. I didn't intend to start anyone down guilt road. I think I may have joined in on the fray....

Iowanian
12-07-2000, 09:32 AM
kphob,

I didn't think i was nasty to her...i thought most of the posts(except for clints dig about returning a shirt to walmart, which was funny)....were civil....I just want players on the team who care...like MAZ....guys with that extra GRRRRRRRRRRR when the ball snaps....and IF she wouldn't have said he wanted to quit...i'd never have questioned his heart....I'm not feeling guilty about that...i don't think I ever write anything about a player that I don't feel...

Its not like a dang small town HS football team i'm paying $2 to watch...and no, everyone doesn't get to play...I want some damn animals on the field.

get the young guys out there, so i can see what to expect....IF THEY WANT TO PLAY!

Clint in Wichita
12-07-2000, 09:54 AM
I didn't make the "Wal-Mart" comment...but I did question the cause of Hall's back injury!

ck_IN
12-07-2000, 10:13 AM
Uh, Best-in-west, Bennett? You're joking right?

Cutting Anders and Bennett will save some $6mill against the cap. Both of these guys are gone.

I'd forgotten about O'Neil G_man. My bad, but the rest of the point remains. I want to see all of our youngsters get serious eval time. We need to go into the draft/FA period with a clear cut agenda and that requires clear cut answers.

Iowanian
12-07-2000, 01:18 PM
clint,

I thought you said "hall couldn't return a shirt to walmart."...maybe it wasn't you...but it sure sounds "clint-onesque" to coin a term.

One Arrowhead Dave
12-07-2000, 02:21 PM
#11-Its time for Bennett and TRich to make something happen. The team needs a tailback as much as anything.
#18 ck_IN - Uh, Best-in-west, Bennett? You're joking right?
Cutting Anders and Bennett will save some $6mill against the cap. Both of these guys are gone.

I was only referring to the remainder of this season. I said nothing about keeping or cutting anyone.

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nmt1
12-07-2000, 02:45 PM
Cloud should get a chance to show if he is good or not. He has fewer carries than Donnell Bennett (a travesty) and is the only true tailback on our roster. Hell he ran for half as many yards as Bennett has for the entire season on that one touchdown run he made this year.

Davechief
12-07-2000, 09:55 PM
We should have evaluated the coaching staff about 13 games ago!

TheFly
12-07-2000, 10:03 PM
There will be no talent evaluation. Gun will run on his heart and loyalties. Not on his head. He will run veterans and his favorites. And we will get the same damn result.

He heart is big, but his brain is really pea-sized....<BR>

ck_IN
12-08-2000, 08:39 AM
Best-in-West,

Playing Bennett serves no purpose since A: he had and failed his chance at HB in '98 and B: He'll probably be gone after the season. The team does need a tailback but Bennett has already proven he isn't it.

Cloud, Hall, and Moreau should be given heavy looks to determine if they're keepers. But they won't. Gun most likely can keep his job with one or two wins and he'll sacrifice development to get them.