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Bootlegged
08-02-2006, 06:53 PM
In real life, not fantasy.

Deberg_1990
08-02-2006, 06:55 PM
WTF?? whats the point of this thread???

ChiefFan31
08-02-2006, 06:55 PM
No Way Jose

That would mean you prefer a RB by committee.

milkman
08-02-2006, 06:57 PM
I rarely actually ever vote in these polls, but I did here, and my vote is a resounding no.

LJ looks like that once in a lifetime back.

He has that rare combination of speed, power, and ability to make people miss.

noa
08-02-2006, 06:59 PM
I would never do it, but i voted yes just so i could be the only one.

Bootlegged
08-02-2006, 06:59 PM
WTF?? whats the point of this thread???


Just something to look back on in a few years and see. That is, if the search function doesn't crash the planet.

Logical
08-02-2006, 07:08 PM
Hell yes

Two all pro backs for the price of one, one who is multi-purpose and will likely end up as one of the all time greats in Bush.

the Talking Can
08-02-2006, 07:09 PM
**** no

I'll kill you if you try

WilliamTheIrish
08-02-2006, 07:14 PM
Hell yes

Two all pro backs for the price of one, one who is multi-purpose and will likely end up as one of the all time greats in Bush.


Just wanted to quote this one.

milkman
08-02-2006, 07:15 PM
Hell yes

Two all pro backs for the price of one, one who is multi-purpose and will likely end up as one of the all time greats in Bush.

Putting the cart before the horse, aren't you Jim?

Bush is talented, but he hasn't done anything in the NFL yet, so to call him an All Pro is a bit premature.

As for Deuce, has he actually ever been an All Pro?

Adept Havelock
08-02-2006, 07:16 PM
No. Nein. Nyet. Nr. Non. Αριθ. קיין Não. رفض

Deberg_1990
08-02-2006, 07:16 PM
Hell yes

Two all pro backs for the price of one, one who is multi-purpose and will likely end up as one of the all time greats in Bush.

I hope your joking? Bush was great in college, but hasnt played one down of football in the Pros. There are never any gurantees.....

LJ and Deuce have at least proven themselves...

el borracho
08-02-2006, 07:16 PM
No way! Larry and his angry ways are way too much fun to watch and there really is nothing more one could ask of a running back!

chubychecker
08-02-2006, 07:29 PM
Hell yes

Two all pro backs for the price of one, one who is multi-purpose and will likely end up as one of the all time greats in Bush.

agreed.

Basileus777
08-02-2006, 08:04 PM
Taking in mind salary cap issues, I would take LJ. Deuce and Bush are a nice duo, but a very expensive one. LJ makes basically nothing right now and even if he gets a paycheck next year, he will still be cheaper than those 2. Dollar for dollar, LJ alone has more value.

htismaqe
08-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Reggie Bush needs to head to Washington. Only Jesus can possibly understand how to use Jesus.

ChiefsCountry
08-02-2006, 08:18 PM
Bush is going to be a bust, so no.

OldTownChief
08-02-2006, 08:24 PM
Hell yes

Two all pro backs for the price of one

Huh?

4th and Long
08-02-2006, 08:27 PM
Would you trade LJ for Deuce & Reggie Bush?
Would you let us tie you to a tree, with your hands behind your back, while we all took turns, with a running start mind you, wearing steel toed boots and kick you in the junk?

Cochise
08-02-2006, 08:31 PM
I think Bush might have a good couple of years depending on what they do with him. We'll see if he can handle the touches in the NFL though.

Cochise
08-02-2006, 08:33 PM
BTW, no, I wouldn't make the trade. Johnson is pretty well a proven commodity.

And Bush's absolute upside is if he turns out to do what Larry Johnson did during his time as the starter last year. He can only hope to be that good.

noa
08-02-2006, 08:33 PM
I think Bush might have a good couple of years depending on what they do with him. We'll see if he can handle the touches in the NFL though.

Reggie Bush should be fine, but that's still not reason enough to trade away LJ.

big nasty kcnut
08-02-2006, 08:40 PM
ditto No. Nein. Nyet. Nr. Non. Αριθ. קיין Não. رفض

Logical
08-02-2006, 08:49 PM
I think Bush might have a good couple of years depending on what they do with him. We'll see if he can handle the touches in the NFL though.

I find this funny as hell, Reggie Bush is 6-0 and about 210 now. Emmitt Smith was 5-10 and 215 but everyone wonders whether Bush can stand up to the NFL pounding. What a joke.

Mecca
08-02-2006, 09:23 PM
I find this funny as hell, Reggie Bush is 6-0 and about 210 now. Emmitt Smith was 5-10 and 215 but everyone wonders whether Bush can stand up to the NFL pounding. What a joke.

USC having 2 top 5 backs and using both of them makes people think Reggie Bush can't handle the load.........it's ludicrious but true.

Archie F. Swin
08-02-2006, 09:27 PM
Bush hasn't proven sheeot!

Frazod
08-02-2006, 09:31 PM
A Johnson in the hand is worth two in the Bush? :hmmm:

big nasty kcnut
08-02-2006, 09:33 PM
Why did you do this poll. You know that you will make larry even more angry.

Logical
08-02-2006, 09:35 PM
I disagree he has proven plenty and when you consider Deuce is almost LJs equal the combo is unbeatable.

Winner of the Doak Walker Award and Walter Camp Award.

Pigskin Club of Washington D.C. Offensive Player of the Year.

Was 1 of 3 finalists for the 2005 Maxwell Award and 1 of 4 finalists for the Cingular-ABC Sports All-America Player of the Year Award.

He made the 2005 Football Coaches, Football Writers, Walter Camp, ESPN.com, SI.com and CBS Sportsline.com All-American first teams.

He was named the 2005 Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Year for the second consecutive year (just the fifth player ever so honored and the first non-quarterback to do it in 20 years) and also made the All-Pac-10 first team as a tailback (the squad's only unanimous pick) and second team as a punt returner.

He was USC's team MVP (for the second consecutive year) and won the USC Player of the Game versus Notre Dame, Co-Player of the Game versus UCLA, Co-Lifter and Jack Oakie "Rise and Shine" (for longest run) awards.

He is currently first nationally in all-purpose running (217.6, first in Pac-10), fourth in rushing (138.2, second in Pac-10) and tied for 18th in scoring (9.0, tied for fifth in Pac-10).

His 8.9 yards per carry in 2005--nearly a first down every carry--is tops in the nation.

With 1,658 rushing yards in 2005, he became USC's 24th 1,000-yard runner (his first time).

His 1,658 rushing yards (sixth on USC's season rushing list and ninth on the Pac-10 season chart) are the most at USC since Marcus Allen's 2,427 in his 1981 Heisman Trophy season.

He is averaging 10.1 yards on his 259 touches in 2005 (he has 2,611 all-purpose yards, within range of Marcus Allen's USC and Pac-10 record of 2,683 in 1981 and ninth on the USC season list)
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The average length of his 16 touchdowns in 2005 is 31.9 yards.

He is averaging a touchdown every 14.4 times he touches the ball in 2005 (18 TDs on 259 touches).

His 5 consecutive 100-yard rushing games in 2005 (Arkansas, Oregon, Arizona State, Arizona State, Notre Dame) was the first time a Trojan did that since Ricky Ervins also had 5 in a row in 1989.

He has rushed for 100 yards 11 times in his career (8 times in 2005, the most in a season by a Trojan since Ricky Ervins had 9 in 1989).

In USC's 5 games against AP ranked opponents in 2005, he is averaging 198.8 rushing yards (10.0 per carry), with 10 rushing TDs, and 302.2 all-purpose yards.

He and Marcus Allen are the only Trojans to twice rush for at least 260 yards in a game.

He is the only Trojan to rush for 200 yards twice against UCLA.

His combined 554 rushing yards versus Fresno State (294) and UCLA (260) were the most ever by a Trojan in back-to-back games.

He has 93 plays of 20-plus yards in his career (including 36 in 2005).

He caught a pass in 27 consecutive games before his streak was snapped against UCLA in 2005.

He has 6,338 all-purpose yards in his career, averaging 10.3 yards on each of his 615 touches, to rank second in USC history (behind Charles White's 7,226 in 1976-79) and 13th in NCAA history.

In his career, he has averaged a touchdown every 15.0 times he touches the ball (41 TDs on 615 touches).

His 2 seasons with 2,000-plus all-purpose yards (he had 2,330 in 2004) ties an NCAA record.

He has produced touchdowns 5 different ways as a Trojan (rushing, receiving, kickoff returns, punt returns and passing).

He has scored 41 TDs in his 38-game career (24 rushing, 13 receiving, 1 on kickoff returns, 3 on punt returns).

His 3,087 career rushing yards is seventh on USC's career chart.

He is averaging 7.4 yards per carry in his career (420 rushes).

His 89 career receptions is 19th on USC's career ladder.

His 1,420 career kickoff return yards is second on USC's all-time list and his 559 career punt return yards is fifth on USC's all-time chart



LJ could only dream of having averages llke that in college.

Mecca
08-02-2006, 09:36 PM
Reggie Bush could probably be a starting WR on our team....I don't know if that speaks to his skills or are crap WR's, maybe a little of both.

Archie F. Swin
08-02-2006, 09:49 PM
Bush had proven dick in the NFL

milkman
08-02-2006, 09:51 PM
I am not one of those that think that Bush is going to be a bust.

I think that he's going to be an exciting player.

My thing is McCalister and Bush are very similiar.

Bush is probably a little faster an more elusive, McCalister is probably the stronger of the two.

But they still bring roughly the same qualities to the table.

LJ, though, as I said, has that rare combination of speed, power, and ability to make people miss.

He's a guy that can, and will, carry his team on his back.

McCalister and Bush are/will be playmakers, but neither will be that guy.

the Talking Can
08-02-2006, 09:59 PM
LJ can outrun any defense, as he's proven, AND he runs like a freakin tank...what more do you want?

he is the total package

PGM
08-02-2006, 10:33 PM
not a chance

Rausch
08-02-2006, 10:54 PM
I've been a Deuce fan since we signed Holmes and I pulled my hair out wanting Deuce.

That turned out ok. No reason to further **** with what's working...

jAZ
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
I voted yes. I think both Duece and Reggie are franchise backs. Getting 2 of those for 1 LJ is a great deal.

Demonpenz
08-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Probably not but man bush would solve the WR problem

SNR
08-02-2006, 11:31 PM
LJ could only dream of having averages llke that in college.Does LJ have to choke a bitch to get the point across to you that he doesn't play for ****ing Penn State no more?

Ryan Leaf was a better college player than Peyton Manning, too. We all know how that turned out.

Rausch
08-02-2006, 11:57 PM
I voted yes.

Of course...

beer bacon
08-03-2006, 01:00 AM
I disagree he has proven plenty and when you consider Deuce is almost LJs equal the combo is unbeatable.

Winner of the Doak Walker Award and Walter Camp Award.

Pigskin Club of Washington D.C. Offensive Player of the Year.

Was 1 of 3 finalists for the 2005 Maxwell Award and 1 of 4 finalists for the Cingular-ABC Sports All-America Player of the Year Award.

He made the 2005 Football Coaches, Football Writers, Walter Camp, ESPN.com, SI.com and CBS Sportsline.com All-American first teams.

He was named the 2005 Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Year for the second consecutive year (just the fifth player ever so honored and the first non-quarterback to do it in 20 years) and also made the All-Pac-10 first team as a tailback (the squad's only unanimous pick) and second team as a punt returner.

He was USC's team MVP (for the second consecutive year) and won the USC Player of the Game versus Notre Dame, Co-Player of the Game versus UCLA, Co-Lifter and Jack Oakie "Rise and Shine" (for longest run) awards.

He is currently first nationally in all-purpose running (217.6, first in Pac-10), fourth in rushing (138.2, second in Pac-10) and tied for 18th in scoring (9.0, tied for fifth in Pac-10).

His 8.9 yards per carry in 2005--nearly a first down every carry--is tops in the nation.

With 1,658 rushing yards in 2005, he became USC's 24th 1,000-yard runner (his first time).

His 1,658 rushing yards (sixth on USC's season rushing list and ninth on the Pac-10 season chart) are the most at USC since Marcus Allen's 2,427 in his 1981 Heisman Trophy season.

He is averaging 10.1 yards on his 259 touches in 2005 (he has 2,611 all-purpose yards, within range of Marcus Allen's USC and Pac-10 record of 2,683 in 1981 and ninth on the USC season list)
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The average length of his 16 touchdowns in 2005 is 31.9 yards.

He is averaging a touchdown every 14.4 times he touches the ball in 2005 (18 TDs on 259 touches).

His 5 consecutive 100-yard rushing games in 2005 (Arkansas, Oregon, Arizona State, Arizona State, Notre Dame) was the first time a Trojan did that since Ricky Ervins also had 5 in a row in 1989.

He has rushed for 100 yards 11 times in his career (8 times in 2005, the most in a season by a Trojan since Ricky Ervins had 9 in 1989).

In USC's 5 games against AP ranked opponents in 2005, he is averaging 198.8 rushing yards (10.0 per carry), with 10 rushing TDs, and 302.2 all-purpose yards.

He and Marcus Allen are the only Trojans to twice rush for at least 260 yards in a game.

He is the only Trojan to rush for 200 yards twice against UCLA.

His combined 554 rushing yards versus Fresno State (294) and UCLA (260) were the most ever by a Trojan in back-to-back games.

He has 93 plays of 20-plus yards in his career (including 36 in 2005).

He caught a pass in 27 consecutive games before his streak was snapped against UCLA in 2005.

He has 6,338 all-purpose yards in his career, averaging 10.3 yards on each of his 615 touches, to rank second in USC history (behind Charles White's 7,226 in 1976-79) and 13th in NCAA history.

In his career, he has averaged a touchdown every 15.0 times he touches the ball (41 TDs on 615 touches).

His 2 seasons with 2,000-plus all-purpose yards (he had 2,330 in 2004) ties an NCAA record.

He has produced touchdowns 5 different ways as a Trojan (rushing, receiving, kickoff returns, punt returns and passing).

He has scored 41 TDs in his 38-game career (24 rushing, 13 receiving, 1 on kickoff returns, 3 on punt returns).

His 3,087 career rushing yards is seventh on USC's career chart.

He is averaging 7.4 yards per carry in his career (420 rushes).

His 89 career receptions is 19th on USC's career ladder.

His 1,420 career kickoff return yards is second on USC's all-time list and his 559 career punt return yards is fifth on USC's all-time chart



LJ could only dream of having averages llke that in college.

Wow, those are damn impressive college stats Laz.

I wouldn't do it because Bush is all potential right now. Nobody knows what he will actually do in the NFL. Don't get me wrong, I do think Bush will good in the NFL. I am just not willing to say that since he was fantastic in college then therefore he will be fantastic in the NFL. Show me.

Also, I don't know if I really want to tie up a 100 million dollars in my RBs.

KcMizzou
08-03-2006, 02:08 AM
Probably not but man bush would solve the WR problemROFL

That he would.

Bootlegged
08-03-2006, 08:24 AM
Bush could be an every down back or every down WR. With Deuce & Bennett - just sayin'.

Predarat
08-03-2006, 08:44 AM
Id do it and keep one, trade the other.

htismaqe
08-03-2006, 09:01 AM
USC having 2 top 5 backs and using both of them makes people think Reggie Bush can't handle the load.........it's ludicrious but true.

It's not that he can't handle the load. It's that he likely doesn't have the skills to be an NFL every-down back.

Even though he touched the ball almost 300 times, it was almost ALWAYS on the edges. He's never seen much action between the tackles, and it remains to be seen if he can make that transition.

Archie F. Swin
08-03-2006, 09:13 AM
Trade a proven, dominating back for two backs that look promising on paper?...get a ****ing clue

How many times does it have to play out that a great college back doesn't often become an NFL star? Why dont you ask Bengals fans.

Demonpenz
08-03-2006, 09:15 AM
Trade a proven, dominating back for two backs that look promising on paper?...get a ****ing clue

How many times does it have to play out that a great college back doesn't often become an NFL star? Why dont you ask Bengals fans.



Duece looks good in action

2002 New Orleans Saints 15 15 325 1388 4.3 62 13 10 65
2003 New Orleans Saints 16 16 351 1641 4.7 76 8 16 69
2004 New Orleans Saints 14 14 269 1074 4.0 71 9 5 53

htismaqe
08-03-2006, 09:22 AM
Duece looks good in action

2002 New Orleans Saints 15 15 325 1388 4.3 62 13 10 65
2003 New Orleans Saints 16 16 351 1641 4.7 76 8 16 69
2004 New Orleans Saints 14 14 269 1074 4.0 71 9 5 53

Deuce's career YPC is nearly a half-yard lower than LJ's and Deuce also has problems with getting dinged up.

Larry Johnson is one of the top 2 or 3 backs in football. Deuce MIGHT be in the top 10.

Bootlegged
08-03-2006, 09:37 AM
Trade a proven, dominating back for two backs that look promising on paper?...get a ****ing clue

How many times does it have to play out that a great college back doesn't often become an NFL star? Why dont you ask Bengals fans.


I like the anger.

Demonpenz
08-03-2006, 01:26 PM
Deuce's career YPC is nearly a half-yard lower than LJ's and Deuce also has problems with getting dinged up.

Larry Johnson is one of the top 2 or 3 backs in football. Deuce MIGHT be in the top 10.


i wasn't saying duece was the bees nees. I was just saying that he looks good playing...in responce to the "looks good on paper" comment

sedated
08-03-2006, 01:43 PM
I would take it.

running backs the size and style of LJ don't last very long in this league, just ask Eddie George.

and passing up on a guy with the potential of Bush is very tough

:hmmm:


well, maybe not. LJ is proven, and only has 2 full years of hits on his body (senior year at Penn State, 2 half seasons in KC).

and we just have to ask Atlanta about potential superstars (Vick)


good question :hmmm:

Mr. Laz
08-03-2006, 01:51 PM
man that's a tough one

Deuce is a very good back(when healthy)

Bush could be a fantastic offensive weapon(if used correctly)

larry johnson looked outstanding for 9 games


i still think there is a decent chance that LJ implodes. something about his attitude is just off.:shrug:


tough, tough choice

depends on what deuce's health is like



2 for 1 ... i prolly would make that deal


especially with N.O. already paying the signing bonus for Deuce and Bush. ;)