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FringeNC
08-17-2006, 10:25 PM
What do the coaches see in this guy? Any game Trent misses is close to an automatic loss.

Deberg_1990
08-17-2006, 10:29 PM
What do the coaches see in this guy? Any game Trent misses is close to an automatic loss.

Why yes he is. Every team in the league (except us) has the next Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Donovan McNabb sitting on the bench.

hypersensitiveZO6
08-17-2006, 10:30 PM
He only threw four passes.

Halfcan
08-17-2006, 10:31 PM
Yep, Hutard sucks ass!!!

chief2000
08-17-2006, 10:32 PM
Rob Johnson and their KFC qb looked WAY better.

noa
08-17-2006, 10:32 PM
Huard is the next Huard.

noa
08-17-2006, 10:32 PM
Huard is the next Huard. Think about it.

Count Alex's Losses
08-17-2006, 10:33 PM
Huard did nothing to win or lose a roster spot.

SLAG
08-17-2006, 10:33 PM
No...

Hutard sucks ass but gus ferotte would be worse than him

SNR
08-17-2006, 10:34 PM
Casey Printers

Deberg_1990
08-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Huard did nothing to win or lose a roster spot.

So basically hes the next Todd Collins.

cdcox
08-17-2006, 10:36 PM
Not even close. He might even be better than a few starters. You far overestimate the overall level of QB talent in the NFL.

milkman
08-17-2006, 10:36 PM
Why yes he is. Every team in the league (except us) has the next Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Donovan McNabb sitting on the bench.

He's not making the claim that any of the other B/U's are anything special, he's asking if Huard is the worst B/U in the league.

I don't believe it would be all that surprising to find the answer to that question to be "Yes".

ChiTown
08-17-2006, 10:37 PM
Damon Huard would be an Arena League backup. I belive we are going to get ours (in spades) for not having a NFL ready backup.

milkman
08-17-2006, 10:38 PM
Not even close. He might even be better than a few starters. You far overestimate the overall level of QB talent in the NFL.

I would disagree strongly with that.

FringeNC
08-17-2006, 10:38 PM
Not even close. He might even be better than a few starters. You far overestimate the overall leven of QB talent in the NFL.

Maybe so, but I think Houston's backup and NY Giant's back up could fill in a few games, and it wouldn't be a disaster. Maybe it's just that Green is so good...

InChiefsHell
08-17-2006, 10:39 PM
Casey Printers

DINGDINGDING!
ROFL

Deberg_1990
08-17-2006, 10:44 PM
Two words: Kyle Boller

Count Alex's Losses
08-17-2006, 10:44 PM
The Chiefs are probably already convinced that Huard is the No. 2.

That's why he didn't play much.

whoman69
08-17-2006, 11:04 PM
Why yes he is. Every team in the league (except us) has the next Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Donovan McNabb sitting on the bench.
Sarcasm aside, he wouldn't be a third string QB on most teams. I haven't seen an NFL QB in quite some time that throws such an ugly ball. The fact that we have nothing better at this point does not bode well if Trent goes down. I never thought I'd be wishing for the good old days with Todd Collins as our backup.
There are some very good backups in the league like Billy Volek. They certainly aren't stars or they would be a starter, but they are able to fill in for a bit if needed. Huard is not.

milkman
08-17-2006, 11:07 PM
Sarcasm aside, he wouldn't be a third string QB on most teams. I haven't seen an NFL QB in quite some time that throws such an ugly ball. The fact that we have nothing better at this point does not bode well if Trent goes down. I never thought I'd be wishing for the good old days with Todd Collins as our backup.
There are some very good backups in the league like Billy Volek. They certainly aren't stars or they would be a starter, but they are able to fill in for a bit if needed. Huard is not.

Hell, the third stringer for the Dolphins, Lemon, is a better QB.

rad
08-17-2006, 11:16 PM
He only threw four passes.

Think there's a reason for that?

burt
08-18-2006, 08:59 AM
Hell, the third stringer for the Dolphins, Lemon, is a better QB.

Hell, shields is a better QB than Huard.

Fire Me Boy!
08-18-2006, 09:05 AM
Yes. At least until Cutler unseats Plummer in week 4.

King_Chief_Fan
08-18-2006, 09:07 AM
Hell, shields is a better QB than Huard.

that fat ass 4th stringer for the Giants ripped the Chiefs ass. Let's get him :)

Count Alex's Losses
08-18-2006, 09:08 AM
Huard is the number two quarterback. Guaranteed.

King_Chief_Fan
08-18-2006, 09:32 AM
Huard is the number two quarterback. Guaranteed.

a true, but sad note to make

jynni
08-18-2006, 09:34 AM
I never thought I'd be wishing for the good old days with Todd Collins as our backup.

What would we want 0ddT0dd back? Didn't he look pretty horrible in Washington's first preseason gamelast week? Something about intentional grounding resulting in a safety?

Jets Babe
08-18-2006, 09:40 AM
ok, no. brooks bollinger.

burt
08-18-2006, 09:46 AM
ok, no. brooks bollinger.

Nah Huard sucks more than him...Huard sucks more than a Dyson Vacuum Cleaner

Jets Babe
08-18-2006, 09:49 AM
Nah Huard sucks more than him...Huard sucks more than a Dyson Vacuum Cleaner
to me, the only reason why i think huard sucks is bc he played for the fins.
but brooks sucks too.

KChiefs1
11-07-2006, 11:17 PM
I don't think he is the worst.

alanm
11-07-2006, 11:19 PM
Huard is the number two quarterback. Guaranteed.
Pwned. ROFLROFL

Guru
11-07-2006, 11:19 PM
Classic thread.

thedude
11-07-2006, 11:21 PM
Damon Huard would be an Arena League backup. I belive we are going to get ours (in spades) for not having a NFL ready backup.

Any game Trent misses is close to an automatic loss.

D'oh!

cdcox
11-07-2006, 11:22 PM
Not even close. He might even be better than a few starters. You far overestimate the overall level of QB talent in the NFL.

Note the date. And I want Green back, because I realize the difference between a good starter and a good back up.

dj56dt58
11-07-2006, 11:24 PM
Damon Huard would be an Arena League backup. I belive we are going to get ours (in spades) for not having a NFL ready backup.
Yup..damn I wish we had a decent backup :p

dj56dt58
11-07-2006, 11:25 PM
Why yes he is. Every team in the league (except us) has the next Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Donovan McNabb sitting on the bench.
That's an ironic statement considering that Huard has better numbers than 2 of them and is right behind Peyton is most categories...

boogblaster
11-07-2006, 11:26 PM
Huard is a turd..a gold-crusted one at that....

Halfcan
11-07-2006, 11:28 PM
I knew all along Huard was going to be a total STUD- I have supported him every step of the way.

TinyEvel
11-07-2006, 11:28 PM
ROFL. Rep to whoever bumped this.

Don't worry, Fringe, hindsight is 20/20. I'm just friggin' glad we're in the position to pull out stuff like this.

Phobia
11-07-2006, 11:29 PM
Milkman sure knows his football.

BigRedChief
11-07-2006, 11:30 PM
Huard is the number two quarterback. Guaranteed. Go Chiefs is Carnak
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KILLER_CLOWN
11-08-2006, 12:08 AM
Comedy Gold these old threads are, someone bring up another oldie I need some dirt on these planeteers.

Count Alex's Losses
11-08-2006, 12:09 AM
Hell, the third stringer for the Dolphins, Lemon, is a better QB.

Hahahaha!!!! milkman is sooooo smart and the rest of us are retards.

milkman
11-08-2006, 12:40 AM
Hahahaha!!!! milkman is sooooo smart and the rest of us are retards.

I stand by what I said.

I said he can't run this offense (the Chiefs offense over the last 5 years), and that he couldn't connect on the long pass consistently, based on the games I saw him play in Miami.

To his credit, he has been much better on the long ball than expected, but he's only hit on 3 or 4, and the one that Kennison made a spectacular catch on.

In Miami, the season that he got a few starts in, his average yards per completion was only slightly above 10 yards.

This season he has lifted his game, and is averaging over 12 yards per completion, but he is running a scaled down version of the offense (something that you and Hootie empatically denied, but that Hermie acknowledged in his press conference).

Trent, in his 5 seasons here has averaged just a little over 16 yards per completion.

Huard has proven me wrong, in that is capable of deeper throws than I thought he was.

But he hasn't proven he's as capable as Trent.

Phobia
11-08-2006, 12:42 AM
It's okay, milkman. We understand you have to defend your agenda.

It's actually quality entertainment.

Carry on.

milkman
11-08-2006, 12:47 AM
It's okay, milkman. We understand you have to defend your agenda.

It's actually quality entertainment.

Carry on.

And what is my agenda?

Count Alex's Losses
11-08-2006, 12:49 AM
Trent, in his 5 seasons here has averaged just a little over 16 yards per completion.


It's 12.55 by my calculations. Pretty much identical to Huard's YPC this year.

Without Roaf in the lineup, I don't think either quarterback will be as effective as they could be. If Green makes it back into the lineup this year, I'll be shocked if he outperforms Huard.

Phobia
11-08-2006, 12:50 AM
And what is my agenda?

You're on the "Huard is overrated" wagon. You're driving it down the cliff.

boogblaster
11-08-2006, 12:55 AM
I like Huard, hes a godsent but hes not Green, Id hate to see Huard at the helm if Al was still here with all that motion, he'd be lost.....

cdcox
11-08-2006, 12:55 AM
It's 12.55 by my calculations. Pretty much identical to Huard's YPC this year.

Without Roaf in the lineup, I don't think either quarterback will be as effective as they could be. If Green makes it back into the lineup this year, I'll be shocked if he outperforms Huard.

I'll be shocked if Huard (2nd half) even matches Huard (first half).

luv
11-08-2006, 12:57 AM
I like Huard, hes a godsent but hes not Green, Id hate to see Huard at the helm if Al was still here with all that motion, he'd be lost.....
Yeah, but Al's not here.


Just sayin'....

milkman
11-08-2006, 12:57 AM
It's 12.55 by my calculations. Pretty much identical to Huard's YPC this year.

Without Roaf in the lineup, I don't think either quarterback will be as effective as they could be. If Green makes it back into the lineup this year, I'll be shocked if he outperforms Huard.

You're right.

My mistake.

AcesCasino
11-08-2006, 12:59 AM
Yeah, after what Damon Huard's shown, in 2006, i'd have to call B.S. on anyone that would be knocking Damon Huard. He's more than getting the job done, has only thrown one pick, and the team's winning. "Huard's as bad, or worse, than Cleo Lemon?" You're standing by THAT B.S. statement? Sorry, but it's time to back away from what was obviously a misguided, uninformed opinion. Be happy you have someone that can keep the machine running........

milkman
11-08-2006, 01:00 AM
You're on the "Huard is overrated" wagon. You're driving it down the cliff.

Until you actually know what my agenda is, you shouldn't comment on it.

I have acknowledged that Huard has played remarkably well.

Count Alex's Losses
11-08-2006, 01:01 AM
What's funny is we ALMOST got to see Cleo Lemon start this week against the Chiefs. The results would have been posted on this thread for sure.

milkman
11-08-2006, 01:01 AM
I like Huard, hes a godsent but hes not Green, Id hate to see Huard at the helm if Al was still here with all that motion, he'd be lost.....

Uhh.......The offense is still using most, if not all, that motion.

Count Alex's Losses
11-08-2006, 01:02 AM
Uhh.......The offense is still using most, if not all, that motion.

Welcome to the Huard bandwagon!

milkman
11-08-2006, 01:04 AM
Yeah, after what Damon Huard's shown, in 2006, i'd have to call B.S. on anyone that would be knocking Damon Huard. He's more than getting the job done, has only thrown one pick, and the team's winning. "Huard's as bad, or worse, than Cleo Lemon?" You're standing by THAT B.S. statement? Sorry, but it's time to back away from what was obviously a misguided, uninformed opinion. Be happy you have someone that can keep the machine running........

I wasn't referring specifically to that statement about Lemon, though Lemon is actually a pretty good 3rd stringer.

So shut the **** up, n00b.

milkman
11-08-2006, 01:07 AM
Welcome to the Huard bandwagon!

Huard is a better QB than I gave him credit for in the preseason.

But I haven't jumped on his bandwagon.

And I've already given you credit for your faith in him before the season started.

Phobia
11-08-2006, 01:36 AM
Until you actually know what my agenda is, you shouldn't comment on it.

I have acknowledged that Huard has played remarkably well.

Do you also acknowledge that you don't have any clue what you're talking about?

Lzen
11-08-2006, 08:27 AM
I stand by what I said.

I said he can't run this offense (the Chiefs offense over the last 5 years), and that he couldn't connect on the long pass consistently, based on the games I saw him play in Miami.

To his credit, he has been much better on the long ball than expected, but he's only hit on 3 or 4, and the one that Kennison made a spectacular catch on.

In Miami, the season that he got a few starts in, his average yards per completion was only slightly above 10 yards.

This season he has lifted his game, and is averaging over 12 yards per completion, but he is running a scaled down version of the offense (something that you and Hootie empatically denied, but that Hermie acknowledged in his press conference).

Trent, in his 5 seasons here has averaged just a little over 16 yards per completion.

Huard has proven me wrong, in that is capable of deeper throws than I thought he was.

But he hasn't proven he's as capable as Trent.


Wow, talk about grasping at straws.

AcesCasino
11-08-2006, 11:25 AM
I know YOU'RE not referring to that statement, MilkMaid! Who in Hades would WANT to refer to that totally idiotic statement, and lay claim to it? Bottom line is, you're one of those "quantity is better than quality" posters, that posted, quite possibly, the stupidest QB comparison in the history of NFL internet postings.

And, here's a lil' fact from the guy you think is a "n00b" -- If some guy posts 17,000 pieces of garbage on an internet web site, 'tis true, he's not a n00b -- He's just a guy that hasn't got the first clue about the NFL talent levels, especially on his own team. (P.S. -- After I'VE posted 17,000 times, i'll lose the n00b title, but you'll still be the same guy that rated Lemon over Huard.)

ChiTown
11-08-2006, 11:32 AM
Damon Huard would be an Arena League backup. I belive we are going to get ours (in spades) for not having a NFL ready backup.

ROFL

I suck.

cdcox
11-08-2006, 11:36 AM
Milkman said something stupid. He still knows more football than 90% of the posters on this board.

Fairplay
11-08-2006, 11:39 AM
Milkman said something stupid. He still knows more football than 90% of the posters on this board.


I agree. Milkman is right-on with most of his football posts. Everyone needs a mulligan here or there.

htismaqe
11-08-2006, 11:39 AM
Milkman said something stupid. He still knows more football than 90% of the posters on this board.

Hindsight is great, ain't it?

cdcox
11-08-2006, 11:42 AM
Hindsight is great, ain't it?

Yep. That's why I go back and edit all my posts to match with current reality.

AcesCasino
11-08-2006, 11:43 AM
Milkman said something stupid. He still knows more football than 90% of the posters on this board.

That wasn't the first response that the 90% would agree with, i'm guessing......

AcesCasino
11-08-2006, 11:44 AM
Yep. That's why I go back and edit all my posts to match with current reality.

(Laugh)

htismaqe
11-08-2006, 11:49 AM
Yep. That's why I go back and edit all my posts to match with current reality.

ROFL

I'm just glad I was in the "keep Huard" camp.

redbrian
11-08-2006, 11:53 AM
Yep. That's why I go back and edit all my posts to match with current reality.

Very 1984 of you. :D

This thread just shows why the folks on this board are punters, and not doing this for a living.

Halfcan
11-08-2006, 12:48 PM
I know YOU'RE not referring to that statement, MilkMaid! Who in Hades would WANT to refer to that totally idiotic statement, and lay claim to it? Bottom line is, you're one of those "quantity is better than quality" posters, that posted, quite possibly, the stupidest QB comparison in the history of NFL internet postings.

And, here's a lil' fact from the guy you think is a "n00b" -- If some guy posts 17,000 pieces of garbage on an internet web site, 'tis true, he's not a n00b -- He's just a guy that hasn't got the first clue about the NFL talent levels, especially on his own team. (P.S. -- After I'VE posted 17,000 times, i'll lose the n00b title, but you'll still be the same guy that rated Lemon over Huard.)

So with your BIG 9 post, you call out Milk. Huard has looked terrible every time he has been in there up to this season. They scaled back the Offense for him and he is not losing games for us, but Huard will never be better than Trent.

Halfcan
11-08-2006, 12:50 PM
First people want to deny that Trent was hurt as bad as he was-then when he gets better-folks want to put him on the bench for a career back up. Amazing!

Mr. Laz
11-08-2006, 12:52 PM
Very 1984 of you. :D

This thread just shows why the folks on this board are punters, and not doing this for a living.
oh come on now ..... the people that do get paid to this are wrong ALL THE TIME.


not to mention that IF the chiefs knew so much more than us about Huard then why is he only signed to a 1 year deal .... and why did they draft Croyle at all?

Cochise
11-08-2006, 01:17 PM
oh come on now ..... the people that do get paid to this are wrong ALL THE TIME.


not to mention that IF the chiefs knew so much more than us about Huard then why is he only signed to a 1 year deal .... and why did they draft Croyle at all?

I dunno, Carl obviously thought Huard was a capable backup QB and it looks like he was right. I don't think we can knock him for it, or for drafting a young guy. We needed a #3, our QBs are 33 and 35, why not let a new guy learn?

Ultra Peanut
11-08-2006, 01:29 PM
Heckuva job, Fringie.

FringeNC
11-08-2006, 01:45 PM
Okay, I was wrong about Huard being terrible, but this Huard love is way overboard. Cdcox's posts on the matter are on dead-on, won't rehash here.

milkman
11-08-2006, 01:55 PM
I know YOU'RE not referring to that statement, MilkMaid! Who in Hades would WANT to refer to that totally idiotic statement, and lay claim to it? Bottom line is, you're one of those "quantity is better than quality" posters, that posted, quite possibly, the stupidest QB comparison in the history of NFL internet postings.

And, here's a lil' fact from the guy you think is a "n00b" -- If some guy posts 17,000 pieces of garbage on an internet web site, 'tis true, he's not a n00b -- He's just a guy that hasn't got the first clue about the NFL talent levels, especially on his own team. (P.S. -- After I'VE posted 17,000 times, i'll lose the n00b title, but you'll still be the same guy that rated Lemon over Huard.)

MilkMaid!!!!
HaHaHa.

You're so original.
I bet you make a ton of money on the comedy circuit.

As for the Huard-Lemon comparison, st the time that I drew that comparison, Lemon had played fairly well in previous preseasons with both San Diego and Miami with TC fodder in 4th qtrs.

Huard had looked like garbage in the last two preseasons, with both TC fodder and the starting unit.

His preseason showings had not provided any evidence that he could step up and play at a level even comparable to Lemon, much less than the high level he's achieved since taking over for Green.

milkman
11-08-2006, 01:58 PM
Do you also acknowledge that you don't have any clue what you're talking about?

I acknowledge that I was wrong about Huard.

But the fact remains, Trent is still the better QB.

milkman
11-08-2006, 02:00 PM
oh come on now ..... the people that do get paid to this are wrong ALL THE TIME.


not to mention that IF the chiefs knew so much more than us about Huard then why is he only signed to a 1 year deal .... and why did they draft Croyle at all?

And further, the news in preseason was that the coaching staff was hoping that either Printers or Croyle could step up and take the backup job from Huard, cause they weren't confident that he was the guy.

So not only were we as fans, in general, wrong, but the coaching staff was wrong, as well.

KcMizzou
11-08-2006, 02:01 PM
First people want to deny that Trent was hurt as bad as he was-then when he gets better-folks want to put him on the bench for a career back up. Amazing!
You said he was retireing, numb-nuts... Don't go patting yourself on the back.

Short Leash Hootie
11-08-2006, 02:04 PM
I would disagree strongly with that.
you're smart...

Short Leash Hootie
11-08-2006, 02:05 PM
Hell, the third stringer for the Dolphins, Lemon, is a better QB.
more genius

Short Leash Hootie
11-08-2006, 02:05 PM
Nah Huard sucks more than him...Huard sucks more than a Dyson Vacuum Cleaner
you're smart too

Short Leash Hootie
11-08-2006, 02:06 PM
I stand by what I said.

I said he can't run this offense (the Chiefs offense over the last 5 years), and that he couldn't connect on the long pass consistently, based on the games I saw him play in Miami.

To his credit, he has been much better on the long ball than expected, but he's only hit on 3 or 4, and the one that Kennison made a spectacular catch on.

In Miami, the season that he got a few starts in, his average yards per completion was only slightly above 10 yards.

This season he has lifted his game, and is averaging over 12 yards per completion, but he is running a scaled down version of the offense (something that you and Hootie empatically denied, but that Hermie acknowledged in his press conference).

Trent, in his 5 seasons here has averaged just a little over 16 yards per completion.

Huard has proven me wrong, in that is capable of deeper throws than I thought he was.

But he hasn't proven he's as capable as Trent.

No, you said he was terrible and didn't deserve to be a backup for an arena football team.

Idiot.

Short Leash Hootie
11-08-2006, 02:08 PM
I wasn't referring specifically to that statement about Lemon, though Lemon is actually a pretty good 3rd stringer.

So shut the **** up, n00b.
hahahaha...

You're an idiot.

milkman
11-08-2006, 02:09 PM
No, you said he was terrible and didn't deserve to be a backup for an arena football team.

Idiot.

I don't believe I actually said that.

However, I believed that was the case until he actually started playing at this level.

Short Leash Hootie
11-08-2006, 02:09 PM
I know YOU'RE not referring to that statement, MilkMaid! Who in Hades would WANT to refer to that totally idiotic statement, and lay claim to it? Bottom line is, you're one of those "quantity is better than quality" posters, that posted, quite possibly, the stupidest QB comparison in the history of NFL internet postings.

And, here's a lil' fact from the guy you think is a "n00b" -- If some guy posts 17,000 pieces of garbage on an internet web site, 'tis true, he's not a n00b -- He's just a guy that hasn't got the first clue about the NFL talent levels, especially on his own team. (P.S. -- After I'VE posted 17,000 times, i'll lose the n00b title, but you'll still be the same guy that rated Lemon over Huard.)
PWNED

Short Leash Hootie
11-08-2006, 02:10 PM
MILKMAN KNOWS FOOTBALL LIKE FEDERLINE KNOWS RAP

Mr. Laz
11-08-2006, 09:16 PM
I dunno, Carl obviously thought Huard was a capable backup QB and it looks like he was right. I don't think we can knock him for it, or for drafting a young guy. We needed a #3, our QBs are 33 and 35, why not let a new guy learn?
i agree it was a good move ... i also like the Croyle draft.



just saying lets not get carried away

FAX
11-08-2006, 09:26 PM
This is not the same offense. Also, Eddie and TG have done a great job of rallying. In fact, they've bailed Downfield Damon out on a great many occasions. He's also been extremely lucky on several near picks. Very lucky. But, that's okay. Last time I checked, it's better to be lucky than great.

It's hard to complain about the way he's played, but if anyone claims that his performance is not a surprise, their last name is Huard.

FAX